After an inactive genealogy period for me, that's welcome news on the Germanic Genealogy Conference. I live in the Twin Cities where it will occur. That might present a good opportunity to reconvene the local Banat contingent for a friendly gathering. I think it has been two years since our last get together. Stasa - If you happen to cross the sea to Minneapolis, there will be free lodging and transportation for you here. If not now, know that you are welcome whenever life permits. Best to all. Charlie Tiller

In the book PARTISAN AND COMMUNIST REPRESSION AND CRIMES IN CROATIA 1944 – 1946 DOCUMENTS is another interesting document about "1945 Eviction of Roman-Catholic Priests from the village of DIOS, next to Daruvar, in Croatia” . I have just transcribed it and you can find it on the www.hrastovac.net pages via the BULLETIN BOARD. Winter greetings from Vancouver Island, where the blooming snow drops are buried under todays fresh snow. Rosina T. Schmidt www.hrastovac.net

I am looking for my grandfather Nikolaus Heinz born 1885 in Perjamos to John Heinz/Elisabeth Fuerbacher. Came to US in 1903 through Baltimore. Lived in MN and died in 1947 there. I found one, but parents are different and the year is 1907. Not sure if the info I was given by relatives is correct. Unfortunately the Famlienbuch Perjamos is not online anymore. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you Sent from my iPhone

Great list, Rosina, thank you very much! Staša On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Rosina <rosinatschmidt@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello DS Researchers, > > Forwarding to you from Liane Falzoden of AKdFF a nifty list families of > Waldhambach, Alsace: > http://dave-francis.com/familiesofwaldhambach/index2.htm < > http://dave-francis.com/familiesofwaldhambach/index2.htm>. > > Thank you Liane, > > Rosina T. Schmidt > www.hrastovac.net > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Stasa Cvetkovic* *http://www.synergia.rs/ <http://www.synergia.rs/>* *Tel/fax: +381 21 553 265* *Mobile: +381 62 598 517* *Novi Sad, Serbia* *Visit our webpage <http://www.synergia.rs/>*

You are welcome, Rita! Suknaić sounded familiar, so I have checked my scans from Gospić archive (DAG). I have done a lot of research in Gospić and Karlovac municipalities in Croatia and it appears that Suknaić is a rare family name in Croatia, but most of Suknaić families were from Gospić in 19 century. Earlier than that, according to the Census of Lika and Krbava from 1712 by Karl Kaser, Suknaić families are from the settlements in and around Medak and Pazarište. Of course, today the most of people with that family name are settled in Zagreb which is historical sense of no particular significance since the trend of moving to Zagreb brought all imaginable family names to the capital). I am sure that you have good grounds to investigate further! Staša On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 2:50 AM, Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com> wrote: > Thank you so much Stasa! > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Stasa Cvetkovic <synergia@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, February 2, 2017 12:30 PM > *To:* Rita Schiwanowitsch > *Cc:* banat-l@rootsweb.com > *Subject:* Re: [BANAT-L] Gross Betschkerek > > Hello Rita. There are 14 Grubić telephone subscribers in and around > Zrenjanin, probably several hundred in whole Serbia, but only 1 Suknaić and > 5 Suknjaić telephone subscribers throughout Serbia, none in Zrenjanin or in > the vicinity. > Staša > > On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 4:55 PM, Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com> > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> >> I looking for information on the family names of Grubic and Suknaic from >> the Zrenjanin/Gross Betschkerek area. This is from a person that is a dna >> match for me and I am trying to figure out the relationship. >> >> >> Thank you in advance for your help. >> >> >> Rita >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > *Stasa Cvetkovic* > *http://www.synergia.rs/ <http://www.synergia.rs/>* > *Tel/fax: +381 21 553 265 <+381%2021%20553265>* > *Mobile: +381 62 598 517 <+381%2062%20598517>* > *Novi Sad, Serbia* > > > *Visit our webpage <http://www.synergia.rs/> * > -- *Stasa Cvetkovic* *http://www.synergia.rs/ <http://www.synergia.rs/>* *Tel/fax: +381 21 553 265* *Mobile: +381 62 598 517* *Novi Sad, Serbia* *Visit our webpage <http://www.synergia.rs/>*

Hello DS Researchers, Forwarding to you from Liane Falzoden of AKdFF a nifty list families of Waldhambach, Alsace: http://dave-francis.com/familiesofwaldhambach/index2.htm <http://dave-francis.com/familiesofwaldhambach/index2.htm>. Thank you Liane, Rosina T. Schmidt www.hrastovac.net

Thank you so much Stasa! ________________________________ From: Stasa Cvetkovic <synergia@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 12:30 PM To: Rita Schiwanowitsch Cc: banat-l@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Gross Betschkerek Hello Rita. There are 14 Grubic telephone subscribers in and around Zrenjanin, probably several hundred in whole Serbia, but only 1 Suknaic and 5 Suknjaic telephone subscribers throughout Serbia, none in Zrenjanin or in the vicinity. Stasa On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 4:55 PM, Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com<mailto:schiwanore@msn.com>> wrote: Hello, I looking for information on the family names of Grubic and Suknaic from the Zrenjanin/Gross Betschkerek area. This is from a person that is a dna match for me and I am trying to figure out the relationship. Thank you in advance for your help. Rita ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:BANAT-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Stasa Cvetkovic http://www.synergia.rs/ Tel/fax: +381 21 553 265 Mobile: +381 62 598 517 Novi Sad, Serbia Visit our webpage<http://www.synergia.rs/>

Hello Rita. There are 14 Grubić telephone subscribers in and around Zrenjanin, probably several hundred in whole Serbia, but only 1 Suknaić and 5 Suknjaić telephone subscribers throughout Serbia, none in Zrenjanin or in the vicinity. Staša On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 4:55 PM, Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com> wrote: > Hello, > > > I looking for information on the family names of Grubic and Suknaic from > the Zrenjanin/Gross Betschkerek area. This is from a person that is a dna > match for me and I am trying to figure out the relationship. > > > Thank you in advance for your help. > > > Rita > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Stasa Cvetkovic* *http://www.synergia.rs/ <http://www.synergia.rs/>* *Tel/fax: +381 21 553 265* *Mobile: +381 62 598 517* *Novi Sad, Serbia* *Visit our webpage <http://www.synergia.rs/>*

Hello, I looking for information on the family names of Grubic and Suknaic from the Zrenjanin/Gross Betschkerek area. This is from a person that is a dna match for me and I am trying to figure out the relationship. Thank you in advance for your help. Rita

Hello, I looking for information on the family names of Grubic and Suknaic from the Zrenjanin/Gross Betschkerek area. This is from a person that is a dna match for me and I am trying to figure out the relationship. Thank you in advance for your help. Rita

Hello Roy! Are you going to be there? Staša On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:39 PM, Roy W Shiflet <rwayne724@verizon.net> wrote: > For information on the *FIRST International Germanic Genealogy Conference* > to be held in Minneapolis on July 28-30, 2017. > > Please go to the Mid-Atlantic Germanic Society website, magsgen.com. > Click on MAGS Events/ other events to see the brochure. There will be a > session on “Donauschwabians – Who were they?” and many other topics. You > can also obtain information from www.ggsmn.org > > Roy W Shiflet > -- *Stasa Cvetkovic* *http://www.synergia.rs/ <http://www.synergia.rs/>* *Tel/fax: +381 21 553 265* *Mobile: +381 62 598 517* *Novi Sad, Serbia* *Visit our webpage <http://www.synergia.rs/>*

For information on the FIRST International Germanic Genealogy Conference to be held in Minneapolis on July 28-30, 2017. Please go to the Mid-Atlantic Germanic Society website, magsgen.com. Click on MAGS Events/ other events to see the brochure. There will be a session on "Donauschwabians - Who were they?" and many other topics. You can also obtain information from www.ggsmn.org Roy W Shiflet

Hi all, The new Familienbuch for Gross-betschkerek is shipping now. My volumes arrived today. Shipping took a bit longer than usual; about 2 months. The family book is comprised of 2 huge volumes in A4 format (about 9 x 12). Clearly a great deal of time and research went into preparing this work. The authors are to be congratulated! Please see www.banatbooks.com <http://www.banatbooks.com/> for more info on what is covered, or to place an order. Orders must be pre-paid before shipping. —Karen Preston

Bastian, I see that Glenn Schwartz has recomended genealogist Stasa Cvetovic.  Stasa has done two research projects for us and he did a fantastic job.  We were very pleased and will likely use him again for another line.  Cathy From: "banat-request@rootsweb.com" <banat-request@rootsweb.com> To: banat@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 5:36 PM Subject: BANAT Digest, Vol 12, Issue 31 Send BANAT mailing list submissions to     banat@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     http://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/banat or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     banat-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at     banat-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of BANAT digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Travelling to the Banat (Glenn Schwartz)   2. Re: Travelling to the Banat (John Schambre) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 16:08:41 -0600 From: Glenn Schwartz <gschwartz@accesscomm.ca> To: <banat@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Travelling to the Banat Message-ID: <19101197-22ab-c7d4-14d9-5e4ab9d86fca@accesscomm.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed Another option is Stasa Cvetkovic. He lives in Serbia, but often travels to Romania for genealogical work. synergia@gmail.com Another possibility is Sorin Fortiu. He is very expert in genealogy and history. He does not drive and is not very active in genealogy any more, but you can give him a try. sorinfortiu@gmail.com Glenn Schwartz President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Sch?nherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Sch?ssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca On 1/23/2017 9:01 AM, Vicki Albu wrote: > Hello Bastian, > > You will probably get additional helpful answers from other members of this > email list, but I have a recent experience with travel to the Banat area. > Four colleagues and I traveled to Romania in September. We speak almost no > Romanian, so we also wanted to hire a driver and tour guide. In the > Timisoara area we hired Alexandra Irimie, aka Timisoara Tour Guide. (I > believe someone on this list recommended her to us.) We found her to be very > helpful. She is not a genealogist per se, but she has experience with the > Archives and she speaks many languages. She knows the area well, is > reliable, and is a safe driver. She is also a lot of fun, and knows > restaurants and other attractions around Timisoara. I can highly recommend > her! Prices in Romania are affordable. We hired other guides in Transylvania > and in the Maramures area, and I can make a few recommendations in those > areas if you are interested. Please feel free to contact me at > valbu@comcast.net or info@romaniangenealogy.com. > > Vicki Albu > Romanian Genealogy Society > > -----Original Message----- > From: BANAT [mailto:banat-bounces+valbu=comcast.net@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > Of Bastian Jones > Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 4:43 AM > To: banat@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BANAT-L] Travelling to the Banat > > Hello fellow list members, > > > I am planning to go and see the cities in the Banat where my grandfather and > my ancestors lived (Tschanad, Keglewichhausen, Marienfeld). > > > Does anybody of you already have experience with such a travel? I'm thinking > about costs, hotels, a tour guide/driver? I am living in Germany so going to > Romania should not be a big problem (probably flying). However, I am not > speaking Romanian and I'm also not familiar with the "do-s and don't-s" of > such a travel ;) > > > Happy to get any help, ideas and feedback from you. > > Best regards, > > Bastian >  > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > >  > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 14:36:09 -0800 From: John Schambre <jfschambre@comcast.net> To: Glenn Schwartz <gschwartz@accesscomm.ca> Cc: <banat@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Travelling to the Banat Message-ID: <0AE5DF88-FC82-46E9-9B51-73D354F5EC1F@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hello:  Yes, I can highly recommend Stasa Cvetkovic.  He was my driver and guide for two weeks as I traveled through Hungary and Romania researching my ancestry in the Banat region.  My primary places of interest were Wiesenhaid (Tisa Noua) and Blumenthal (Masloc) but he took me to major cities, knew exactly where the archives were and what docouments to ask for.  He helped me with my research at the archives, making charts, etc. to help me organize the data.  When we needed some help in Hungary, he called upon another researcher, Rudolf Laszlo, to come with us and help.  Rudolf speaks fluent Hungarian and is pretty good at English too.  Stasa speaks excellent English and knows some Hungarian and Romanian as well - certainly enough to understand what people were saying to us. Stasa helped me search through the old cemeteries, taking photos of tombstones, etc.  He found decent hotels for us to stay at and knew much of the history of the area during the period of our ancestors. Bottom line:  I had a wonderful experience and came home with hundreds of copies of documents relating to my family. No matter how you go or who you hire, enjoy yourself!  Try to visualize how the place was during the time of our ancestors.  At times, I could almost see my grandparents as young children working in the fields or playing in the streets.  It was a trip of a lifetime and one I shall never forget. John Schambre San Francisco > On Jan 23, 2017, at 2:08 PM, Glenn Schwartz <gschwartz@accesscomm.ca> wrote: > > Another option is Stasa Cvetkovic. He lives in Serbia, but often travels to Romania for genealogical work. synergia@gmail.com > > Another possibility is Sorin Fortiu. He is very expert in genealogy and history. He does not drive and is not very active in genealogy any more, but you can give him a try. sorinfortiu@gmail.com > > Glenn Schwartz > > President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) > Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Sch?nherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Sch?ssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. > Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca > > On 1/23/2017 9:01 AM, Vicki Albu wrote: >> Hello Bastian, >> >> You will probably get additional helpful answers from other members of this >> email list, but I have a recent experience with travel to the Banat area. >> Four colleagues and I traveled to Romania in September. We speak almost no >> Romanian, so we also wanted to hire a driver and tour guide. In the >> Timisoara area we hired Alexandra Irimie, aka Timisoara Tour Guide. (I >> believe someone on this list recommended her to us.) We found her to be very >> helpful. She is not a genealogist per se, but she has experience with the >> Archives and she speaks many languages. She knows the area well, is >> reliable, and is a safe driver. She is also a lot of fun, and knows >> restaurants and other attractions around Timisoara. I can highly recommend >> her! Prices in Romania are affordable. We hired other guides in Transylvania >> and in the Maramures area, and I can make a few recommendations in those >> areas if you are interested. Please feel free to contact me at >> valbu@comcast.net or info@romaniangenealogy.com. >> >> Vicki Albu >> Romanian Genealogy Society >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BANAT [mailto:banat-bounces+valbu=comcast.net@rootsweb.com] On Behalf >> Of Bastian Jones >> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 4:43 AM >> To: banat@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [BANAT-L] Travelling to the Banat >> >> Hello fellow list members, >> >> >> I am planning to go and see the cities in the Banat where my grandfather and >> my ancestors lived (Tschanad, Keglewichhausen, Marienfeld). >> >> >> Does anybody of you already have experience with such a travel? I'm thinking >> about costs, hotels, a tour guide/driver? I am living in Germany so going to >> Romania should not be a big problem (probably flying). However, I am not >> speaking Romanian and I'm also not familiar with the "do-s and don't-s" of >> such a travel ;) >> >> >> Happy to get any help, ideas and feedback from you. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Bastian >>  ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> >>  ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer To contact the BANAT list administrator, send an email to BANAT-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Hello Bastian, This September my husband and I traveled to Romania to visit his ancestral villages in Timisoara.  It was wonderful and very reasonable.  Romanian currency equaled 25 cents to the dollar in 2016.   We booked a customized tour with Compass Travel. The company created a tour that took us to all of the villages we wanted to see (Schag, Hatzfeld, Perjamosch, Hodoni, and a few others. Then we traveled east to see the German towns like Helmanstadt (Sibiu), Brasov, and ending in Bucharest.  We had a driver/translater/guide who was not a genealogist, but nearly convinced an administrator at the town hall in Schag that he was our adopted grandson.  For George Gordeanu, our guide, nothing was too much trouble to pursue).  He got all of the churches opened for us and got us into the regional Catholic Church records office, where we photographed many family death certificates.  Without a driver/translator, we would never have seen or obtained so much. .::TOURS OF ROMANIA ::. Romania Tours / Romania Private Tours / Transylvania - Bucovina - Tours of Romania | | | | | | | | | | | .::TOURS OF ROMANIA ::. Romania Tours / Romania Private Tours / Transylvani... Romania private tours are flexible and fully customizable based on our set itineraries or entirely tailor made t... | | | | Cathy From: "banat-request@rootsweb.com" <banat-request@rootsweb.com> To: banat@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 7:25 AM Subject: BANAT Digest, Vol 12, Issue 29 Send BANAT mailing list submissions to     banat@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     http://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/banat or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     banat-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at     banat-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of BANAT digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Travelling to the Banat (Bastian Jones)   2. Germans from Luxemburg (ddreyer@pacbell.net) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 10:42:36 +0000 From: Bastian Jones <bastian.jones@outlook.com> To: "banat@rootsweb.com" <banat@rootsweb.com> Subject: [BANAT-L] Travelling to the Banat Message-ID:     <DB3PR05MB089037725DD92B60552A3DB4ED720@DB3PR05MB0890.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello fellow list members, I am planning to go and see the cities in the Banat where my grandfather and my ancestors lived (Tschanad, Keglewichhausen, Marienfeld). Does anybody of you already have experience with such a travel? I'm thinking about costs, hotels, a tour guide/driver? I am living in Germany so going to Romania should not be a big problem (probably flying). However, I am not speaking Romanian and I'm also not familiar with the "do-s and don't-s" of such a travel ;) Happy to get any help, ideas and feedback from you. Best regards, Bastian ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 16:13:11 -0800 From: <ddreyer@pacbell.net> To: "bobwolf@prodigy.net" <bobwolf@prodigy.net>,     "Banat-L@rootsweb.com" <Banat-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [BANAT-L] Germans from Luxemburg Message-ID: <998707.67069.bm@smtp114.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Bob, Somewhere on the internet there must be a copy of the German-French linguistic boundary in this area.  Of course, it is likely that there is considerable mixture on each side. I agree Stoffel sounds like a German name  but Reinhard, in his Triebswetter family books gives a large number of French sounding name equivalents to Stoffel, including Stouflet, Stouffler, stufflet etc.  I expect that they came with a French background they were soon entered in the records with a German equivalent but a lot depended on the background of the clerk.  Reinhard gives the spitzname of the family in this case ?Schmiedschago?.  Is that a clue for German? Dave Dreyer    From: bobwolf@prodigy.net Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 1:40 PM To: banat@rootsweb.com Cc: choltzclaw@comcast.net Subject: [BANAT-L] Vienna Registration Thank you to Dave, Bastian, Rudolf and Stacy for getting me on the right track. With your input and information, I have a plan of action and that is starting with a FHL. As it turns out there is one close to me and I plan to visit and try to access the Stader book and/or Banater Akten list. What I am hoping to estavblish is the date and any related information on my paternal grandfather and grandmother four times removed. I know they were born in Alberthausen, Hessen, Germany in 1768 and 1770 respectively and had son in 1789 in  Triebswetter, Timis, Rum?nien.  Their names were Johann Michael Wolf, Maria Ursula Wolf (born Schneider) and son, Josef Adam Wolf. On my maternal side I have the same question. My maternal grandfather, Nikolaus Stoffel four times removed was born in  Mamer, Luxemburg in 1766 and died    in Sackelhausen, Banat on Mar 28 1789. His wife, Susanna Stoffel (born Moll) was born in Ulmbach, Banat, Rum?nien (Peciu Nou) in 1762. So  Nikolaus was not married when he emigrated to the Banat and may not have come through Vienna. A related question is ethnic in that Mamer, Luxemburg was a mix of French and Germans, how can you determine which ethnic group Nikolas Stoffel belonged to? Stoffel is a German name so we have always made that assumption but know nothing else about him. Again, many thanks for your genealogical research. Bob -----Original Message----- From: BANAT [mailto:banat-bounces+bobwolf=prodigy.net@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of banat-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:35 AM To: banat@rootsweb.com Subject: BANAT Digest, Vol 12, Issue 23 Send BANAT mailing list submissions to     banat@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     http://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/banat or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     banat-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at     banat-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of BANAT digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: Vienna Registration (Stacy) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 12:04:13 -0800 From: Stacy <stacyrenee4@yahoo.com> To: Bastian Jones <bastian.dornbach@outlook.de> Cc: "ddreyer@pacbell.net" <ddreyer@pacbell.net>, Bob Wolf     <fsslcbw@hotmail.com>, "Banat-L@rootsweb.com" <Banat-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Vienna Registration Message-ID: <A83055F1-BA9D-4386-97DB-EDAB959A5409@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The Family History Library may even have the books, too. My local one does. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 19, 2017, at 5:31 AM, Bastian Jones <bastian.dornbach@outlook.de> wrote: > > Hello Bob, > > > if you are talking about the "Banater Akten" you can order them on micro fiche from the Mormons. I did that to check for certain names. It worked quite well, of course you need the number (e.g. BanA Fasz 35 rNr 156, fol 155b-156, 784b-785). > > > Best regards, > > Bastian > > > > ________________________________ > Von: BANAT <banat-bounces+bastian.dornbach=outlook.de@rootsweb.com> im > Auftrag von ddreyer@pacbell.net <ddreyer@pacbell.net> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. Januar 2017 02:40 > An: Bob Wolf; Banat-L@rootsweb.com > Betreff: Re: [BANAT-L] Vienna Registration > > Bob, > In Vienna, > Dave Dreyer > > > > From: Bob Wolf > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 5:33 PM > To: ddreyer@pacbell.net > Subject: RE: [BANAT-L] Vienna Registration > > But where can I find them? > Bob > > From: ddreyer@pacbell.net [mailto:ddreyer@pacbell.net] > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 5:28 PM > To: Bob Wolf <fsslcbw@hotmail.com>; Banat-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [BANAT-L] Vienna Registration > > Bob, > I am not aware of any Hof Kammer holdings online.  So what about the materials of the Hofkammer archives? > Dave Dreyer > > > > From: Bob Wolf > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 11:19 AM > To: banat@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BANAT-L] Vienna Registration > > Dave, are the Vienna Registrations available online? What about the materials of Hofkammer archives? > Thanks > > -----Original Message----- > From: BANAT [mailto:banat-bounces+bobwolf=prodigy.net@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of banat-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:50 PM > To: banat@rootsweb.com > Subject: BANAT Digest, Vol 12, Issue 10 > > Send BANAT mailing list submissions to >                banat@rootsweb.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >                > http://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/banat > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >                banat-request@rootsweb.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at >                banat-owner@rootsweb.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of BANAT digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >  1. Re: Fwd: Help with 4x Great-Grandfather Vienna Registration >      (Glenn Schwartz) >  2. Re: BANAT Digest, Vol 12, Issue 9 (Catherine Teufel) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:08:20 -0600 > From: Glenn Schwartz <gschwartz@accesscomm.ca> > To: <banat@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Fwd: Help with 4x Great-Grandfather Vienna >                Registration > Message-ID: <561e3934-d8f1-b88b-9bdc-3a20d68b6b62@accesscomm.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed > > Also on microfilm from LDS. I looked at them many years ago. Look for Banater Akten. > > Glenn Schwartz > > President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) > Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Sch?nherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Sch?ssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. > Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca > >> On 1/13/2017 1:19 PM, ddreyer@pacbell.net wrote: >> Bill, >> W/K are shorthand for the abstracts of the registrations made when immigrants passed through Vienna.  To the best of my knowledge the original records are stored in the Hofkammer archives in Vienna. >> Dave Dreyer >> >> >> >> From: David Preston >> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 5:02 AM >> To: Banat List >> Subject: [BANAT-L] Fwd: Help with 4x Great-Grandfather Vienna >> Registration >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: William Schwiegeraht <bswag@yahoo.com> >> Date: Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 6:00 AM >> Subject: [BANAT-L] Help with 4x Great-Grandfather Vienna Registration >> To: "banat@rootsweb.com" <banat@rootsweb.com> >> >> >> Hello to all,I am looking for someone with a copy of Sammelwerk >> donauschw?bischer Kolonisten who might locate some records for me.My >> 4x great grandfather, Johann Schwiegerath (or Schwickerath) is cited >> in the Johannisfeld Family Book (Susan Clarkson) as registering on >> 19apr1766 in Vienna and I would like to get actual proof of this.  He >> would have been registering with his wife (Barbara??) and at least >> one child (Peter) who was 2 years old at that time.  The town of >> origin (Malberg, in Bitburg >> County) is listed as well, but I would eventually like to see the >> actual records myself to verify this home town and identify any >> possible relocations before he left for Vienna.  I have found a good >> deal of information on the town of Malberg, but I have not had >> success locating Johann (born 1731) there.  Church records stored in >> Trier apparently start in 1744. Also, I do not know what the source >> below >> (Qu: W/K 5658) means - can anyone help me with that? >> Here is the cited record from Johannisfeld Family Book; Familie >> Schwiegerath stammt aus Malberg, Kr. Bitburg,Luxemburg; Johann >> Schwiegerrath ist am 19.04.1766 in Wien  registiert. (Qu: W/K 56/58) >> >> The Schwiegerath family came from Malberg, BitburgCounty, Luxembourg. >> Johann Schwiegerathregistered in Vienna on April 19, 1766 (source: >> W/K >> 56/58) >> >> >> Thanks very much!Bill Schwiegeraht >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 02:47:01 +0000 (UTC) > From: Catherine Teufel <rcateuf@yahoo.com> > To: "banat@rootsweb.com" <banat@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] BANAT Digest, Vol 12, Issue 9 > Message-ID: <1928354142.2861460.1484362021905@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi Richard, > If you go to this website, you will see the list of names to which David was referring: > Luxemburger Auswanderer ins Banat - Ahnenforschung.Net Forum . > > Unfortunately, my Etienne ancestors are not on the list since they arrived in the 1750's. > Enjoy! > Cathy Teufel O'Neill > > > | > | > | > |  |    | > >  | > >  | > | > |  | > Luxemburger Auswanderer ins Banat - Ahnenforschung.Net Forum > Luxemburger Auswanderer ins Banat Benelux Genealogie  |  | > >  | > >  | > > > >      From: "banat-request@rootsweb.com" <banat-request@rootsweb.com> > To: banat@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 3:23 PM > Subject: BANAT Digest, Vol 12, Issue 9 > > Send BANAT mailing list submissions to ??? banat@rootsweb.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ??? > http://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/banat > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ??? > banat-request@rootsweb.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at ??? > banat-owner@rootsweb.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of BANAT digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > ? 1. Re: Fwd: Immigration vers 1769 (Ragnar Schmidt) ? 2. Re: Fwd: > Help with 4x Great-Grandfather Vienna Registration ? ? ? > (ddreyer@pacbell.net) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:57:54 +0100 > From: Ragnar Schmidt <ragnar.schmidt@familie-schmidt.info> > To: "'Scott Aaron'" <rtanyon@yahoo.com>, <ddreyer@pacbell.net>, ??? > "'Diana Lambing'" <diana@villaflorida.co.uk>, <Banat-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Fwd: Immigration vers 1769 > Message-ID: <005501d26d16$8c17be00$a4473a00$@familie-schmidt.info> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi. > > Regarding general research in the LUX, Belgium area: > > Belgium church book records can be found here: > http://search.arch.be/nl/zoeken-naar-archieven/zoekresultaat/ead/index > /eadid/BE-A0521_711846_711278_FRE > > Lux church book records can be found here: > https://familysearch.org/search/collection/2037955?collectionNameFilte > r=true > > An overview of the Lux parishes is listed here: > http://www.anlux.public.lu/de/rechercher/outils-pratiques/repertoire-p > aroisses.html > > Lux place names in all 3 languages: > http://www.institutgrandducal.lu/Joomla/index.php?option=com_content&t > ask=view&id=135 http://thomafamill.lu/TNG10/mod_places-ec.php > https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_luxemburgischer_Ortschaften > > > > Regarding Perl vs Perl?: > 1. Perl is in GER - near Lux border. > (Familybook "Die Einwohner der Pfarrei St.Gervasius und Protasius Perl > vor 1900. (mit Oberperl, Niederperl, Sehndorf, Maim?hle, Pillinger > Hof, sowie f?r das 18.Jahrhundert Apach, Belmach und Merschweiller in > Frankreich und Schengen in Luxemburg) ") > > 2. Perl? is in LUX - church book Mertelange. > > > > Regarding Family SCHR?DER-GAULS: > Perl? ? KB Martelange = http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perl%C3%A9 > > SCHR?DER Michael > * er.1701 Luxemburg ??? ??? ??? ? 08.05.1771 Bogarosch oo? > GAULS Maria > * um.1703 > > 1. Peter ??? ??? * 03.08.1751 Perl???? + 11.04.1752 Perl? > 2. Katharina Maria??? * 18.02.1753 Perl?? ??? + 26.09.1809 Bogarosch 3. Maria Johanna??? * 05.02.1755 Perl? ??? + 05.07.1759 Perl? > 4. Anna Katharina ??? * 28.12.1756 Perl? ??? + 07.10.1758 Perl? > 5. Barbara ??? ??? * 24.01.1759 Perl?? ??? + 02.05.1828 Bogarosch 6. ?gydius ??? ??? * 13.02.1761 Perl?? ??? + 11.01.1835 Bogarosch 7. Johann Michael ??? * 29.11.1763 Perl?? ??? + 25.04.1824 Bogarosch??? > 8. Nikolaus ??? ??? * 23.04.1767 Perl? ??? + 13.08.1769 Bogarosch 9. Dominicus ??? ??? * 23.04.1767 Perl? ??? > > > Unfortunatly I could not find the marriage or birth records of them. > If somebody knows more - let me know. > > Best, ragnar > > > > > > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: BANAT > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. Januar 2017 17:53 > An: ddreyer@pacbell.net; Diana Lambing <diana@villaflorida.co.uk>; > Banat-L@rootsweb.com > Betreff: Re: [BANAT-L] Fwd: Immigration vers 1769 > > It's interesting that you can be on the list for over a decade and still learn things that you didn't know (immigration pattern-wise). I didn't realize there were Banaters from the western border of Luxembourg and Belgium. I had always thought these Luxembourgers were from the eastern regions, and the areas that fell under Luxembourg long ago, that are now part of Germany (the Bitburg area, etc). > > In researching my Aron/Arend/Arent line, I found a couple of men in Stader from 'Perl', which I assumed was the Perl that is on the border of Lux/France/Germany. Seeing Richard's mention of 'Perle' below, and seeing it on the border of Lux/Belgium makes me wonder if THAT was the Perl/Perle they were from. My line dead-ends with a Nicholas Aron/Arrent from Luxembourg, but I was never able to definitively identify the village of "Ritteburg" he was listed as being from. I assumed it was either a poorly transcribed "Bitburg" or maybe nearby Rittersdorf. If these Aron's in Stader were actually from Perle (Lux), maybe they are indeed connected to my line somehow, and maybe Ritteburg was a village near there, lost to history. > > Scott > > ? ? ? From: "ddreyer@pacbell.net" <ddreyer@pacbell.net> > To: Diana Lambing <diana@villaflorida.co.uk>; "Banat-L@rootsweb.com" > <Banat-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 2:33 PM > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Fwd: Immigration vers 1769 ? > Diana, Richard, > Au contraire, > there are two very useful sources covering the origin of Banaters in this area. > 1 Charles Amann, l?emigration des lorrains vers le Banat et la Batschka au 18eme si?cle 1750/1803. > 2 Anton Kraemer, ?Luxemburgische Ansiedler-familien in Banater Ortschaftern (1763-1788)?, an extensive voume of ?de Familjefuerscher?, Association Luxembourgeoise de Genealogie et d?Heroldique?, January 2005 For your purpose I would expect that Kraemer?s article would be the most useful and I find numerous families coming from the localities you note. > Dave Dreyer? ? > > > > > From: Diana Lambing > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 6:48 AM > To: David Preston; Banat List > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Fwd: Immigration vers 1769 > > Cher Richard, > > Je poss?de le livre des familles de Bogarosch, et le nom Schroeder appara?t dans cet livre. > Dois-je vous envoyer les d?tails de toutes les familles Schroeder? > > Malheureusement, je n'ai pas de liste d'?migrants de la region frontaliere Belgo-Luxembourg. > > Cordialement, > > Diana Lambing > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Preston > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 1:38 PM > To: Banat List > Subject: [BANAT-L] Fwd: Immigration vers 1769 > > Madame, Monsieur, > > > Je suis ? la recherche d?une liste d??migrants provenant de la r?gion frontali?re belgo-luxembourgeoise (Perl?, Martelange, Tintange?) arrivant ? Bogarosch (Bulgarus, Roumanie) vers 1769. Parmi ceux-ci figurent Michel Schroeder et Anne-Marie Gauls. > > Afin d?en savoir plus, pouvez-vous me renseigner et/ou m?orienter dans mes recherches ? > > Avec tous mes remerciements, > > > > Richard Jusseret > Rue de Launet, 1 > 6870 Hatrival > Belgique > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:19:01 -0800 > From: <ddreyer@pacbell.net> > To: "Banat-L@rootsweb.com" <Banat-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Fwd: Help with 4x Great-Grandfather Vienna ??? > Registration > Message-ID: <25635.34751.bm@smtp215.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Bill, > W/K are shorthand for the abstracts of the registrations made when immigrants passed through Vienna.? To the best of my knowledge the original records are stored in the Hofkammer archives in Vienna. > Dave Dreyer > > > > From: David Preston > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 5:02 AM > To: Banat List > Subject: [BANAT-L] Fwd: Help with 4x Great-Grandfather Vienna > Registration > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: William Schwiegeraht <bswag@yahoo.com> > Date: Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 6:00 AM > Subject: [BANAT-L] Help with 4x Great-Grandfather Vienna Registration > To: "banat@rootsweb.com" <banat@rootsweb.com> > > > Hello to all,I am looking for someone with a copy of Sammelwerk > donauschw?bischer Kolonisten who might locate some records for me.My > 4x great grandfather, Johann Schwiegerath (or Schwickerath) is cited > in the Johannisfeld Family Book (Susan Clarkson) as registering on > 19apr1766 in Vienna and I would like to get actual proof of this.? He > would have been registering with his wife (Barbara??) and at least one > child (Peter) who was 2 years old at that time.? The town of origin > (Malberg, in Bitburg > County) is listed as well, but I would eventually like to see the actual records myself to verify this home town and identify any possible relocations before he left for Vienna.? I have found a good deal of information on the town of Malberg, but I have not had success locating Johann (born 1731) there.? Church records stored in Trier apparently start in 1744. Also, I do not know what the source below (Qu: W/K 5658) means - can anyone help me with that? > Here is the cited record from Johannisfeld Family Book; Familie > Schwiegerath stammt aus Malberg, Kr. Bitburg,Luxemburg; Johann > Schwiegerrath ist am 19.04.1766 in Wien? registiert. (Qu: W/K 56/58) > > The Schwiegerath family came from Malberg, BitburgCounty, Luxembourg. > Johann Schwiegerathregistered in Vienna on April 19, 1766 (source: W/K > 56/58) > > > Thanks very much!Bill Schwiegeraht > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > To contact the BANAT list administrator, send an email to BANAT-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BANAT mailing list, send an email to BANAT@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of BANAT Digest, Vol 12, Issue 9 > ************************************ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > To contact the BANAT list administrator, send an email to BANAT-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BANAT mailing list, send an email to BANAT@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of BANAT Digest, Vol 12, Issue 10 > ************************************* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer To contact the BANAT list administrator, send an email to BANAT-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Highly recommend Alexandra Irimie. She arranged my entire trip, pick up from plane,hotel, food, drove me around Marienfeld, crossed the Serbian border to Kikinda. Reasonable cost. Very trustworthy. E-mail: contact@timisoaratourguide.com<mailto:contact@timisoaratourguide.com> Web: www.timisoaratourguide.com<http://www.timisoaratourguide.com/> Stasa Cvetkovic also is great. Very experienced in Genealogy as well. John

Another option is Stasa Cvetkovic. He lives in Serbia, but often travels to Romania for genealogical work. synergia@gmail.com Another possibility is Sorin Fortiu. He is very expert in genealogy and history. He does not drive and is not very active in genealogy any more, but you can give him a try. sorinfortiu@gmail.com Glenn Schwartz President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca On 1/23/2017 9:01 AM, Vicki Albu wrote: > Hello Bastian, > > You will probably get additional helpful answers from other members of this > email list, but I have a recent experience with travel to the Banat area. > Four colleagues and I traveled to Romania in September. We speak almost no > Romanian, so we also wanted to hire a driver and tour guide. In the > Timisoara area we hired Alexandra Irimie, aka Timisoara Tour Guide. (I > believe someone on this list recommended her to us.) We found her to be very > helpful. She is not a genealogist per se, but she has experience with the > Archives and she speaks many languages. She knows the area well, is > reliable, and is a safe driver. She is also a lot of fun, and knows > restaurants and other attractions around Timisoara. I can highly recommend > her! Prices in Romania are affordable. We hired other guides in Transylvania > and in the Maramures area, and I can make a few recommendations in those > areas if you are interested. Please feel free to contact me at > valbu@comcast.net or info@romaniangenealogy.com. > > Vicki Albu > Romanian Genealogy Society > > -----Original Message----- > From: BANAT [mailto:banat-bounces+valbu=comcast.net@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > Of Bastian Jones > Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 4:43 AM > To: banat@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BANAT-L] Travelling to the Banat > > Hello fellow list members, > > > I am planning to go and see the cities in the Banat where my grandfather and > my ancestors lived (Tschanad, Keglewichhausen, Marienfeld). > > > Does anybody of you already have experience with such a travel? I'm thinking > about costs, hotels, a tour guide/driver? I am living in Germany so going to > Romania should not be a big problem (probably flying). However, I am not > speaking Romanian and I'm also not familiar with the "do-s and don't-s" of > such a travel ;) > > > Happy to get any help, ideas and feedback from you. > > Best regards, > > Bastian > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello: Yes, I can highly recommend Stasa Cvetkovic. He was my driver and guide for two weeks as I traveled through Hungary and Romania researching my ancestry in the Banat region. My primary places of interest were Wiesenhaid (Tisa Noua) and Blumenthal (Masloc) but he took me to major cities, knew exactly where the archives were and what docouments to ask for. He helped me with my research at the archives, making charts, etc. to help me organize the data. When we needed some help in Hungary, he called upon another researcher, Rudolf Laszlo, to come with us and help. Rudolf speaks fluent Hungarian and is pretty good at English too. Stasa speaks excellent English and knows some Hungarian and Romanian as well - certainly enough to understand what people were saying to us. Stasa helped me search through the old cemeteries, taking photos of tombstones, etc. He found decent hotels for us to stay at and knew much of the history of the area during the period of our ancestors. Bottom line: I had a wonderful experience and came home with hundreds of copies of documents relating to my family. No matter how you go or who you hire, enjoy yourself! Try to visualize how the place was during the time of our ancestors. At times, I could almost see my grandparents as young children working in the fields or playing in the streets. It was a trip of a lifetime and one I shall never forget. John Schambre San Francisco > On Jan 23, 2017, at 2:08 PM, Glenn Schwartz <gschwartz@accesscomm.ca> wrote: > > Another option is Stasa Cvetkovic. He lives in Serbia, but often travels to Romania for genealogical work. synergia@gmail.com > > Another possibility is Sorin Fortiu. He is very expert in genealogy and history. He does not drive and is not very active in genealogy any more, but you can give him a try. sorinfortiu@gmail.com > > Glenn Schwartz > > President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) > Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. > Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca > > On 1/23/2017 9:01 AM, Vicki Albu wrote: >> Hello Bastian, >> >> You will probably get additional helpful answers from other members of this >> email list, but I have a recent experience with travel to the Banat area. >> Four colleagues and I traveled to Romania in September. We speak almost no >> Romanian, so we also wanted to hire a driver and tour guide. In the >> Timisoara area we hired Alexandra Irimie, aka Timisoara Tour Guide. (I >> believe someone on this list recommended her to us.) We found her to be very >> helpful. She is not a genealogist per se, but she has experience with the >> Archives and she speaks many languages. She knows the area well, is >> reliable, and is a safe driver. She is also a lot of fun, and knows >> restaurants and other attractions around Timisoara. I can highly recommend >> her! Prices in Romania are affordable. We hired other guides in Transylvania >> and in the Maramures area, and I can make a few recommendations in those >> areas if you are interested. Please feel free to contact me at >> valbu@comcast.net or info@romaniangenealogy.com. >> >> Vicki Albu >> Romanian Genealogy Society >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BANAT [mailto:banat-bounces+valbu=comcast.net@rootsweb.com] On Behalf >> Of Bastian Jones >> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 4:43 AM >> To: banat@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [BANAT-L] Travelling to the Banat >> >> Hello fellow list members, >> >> >> I am planning to go and see the cities in the Banat where my grandfather and >> my ancestors lived (Tschanad, Keglewichhausen, Marienfeld). >> >> >> Does anybody of you already have experience with such a travel? I'm thinking >> about costs, hotels, a tour guide/driver? I am living in Germany so going to >> Romania should not be a big problem (probably flying). However, I am not >> speaking Romanian and I'm also not familiar with the "do-s and don't-s" of >> such a travel ;) >> >> >> Happy to get any help, ideas and feedback from you. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Bastian >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello fellow list members, I am planning to go and see the cities in the Banat where my grandfather and my ancestors lived (Tschanad, Keglewichhausen, Marienfeld). Does anybody of you already have experience with such a travel? I'm thinking about costs, hotels, a tour guide/driver? I am living in Germany so going to Romania should not be a big problem (probably flying). However, I am not speaking Romanian and I'm also not familiar with the "do-s and don't-s" of such a travel ;) Happy to get any help, ideas and feedback from you. Best regards, Bastian

Hello Bastian, You will probably get additional helpful answers from other members of this email list, but I have a recent experience with travel to the Banat area. Four colleagues and I traveled to Romania in September. We speak almost no Romanian, so we also wanted to hire a driver and tour guide. In the Timisoara area we hired Alexandra Irimie, aka Timisoara Tour Guide. (I believe someone on this list recommended her to us.) We found her to be very helpful. She is not a genealogist per se, but she has experience with the Archives and she speaks many languages. She knows the area well, is reliable, and is a safe driver. She is also a lot of fun, and knows restaurants and other attractions around Timisoara. I can highly recommend her! Prices in Romania are affordable. We hired other guides in Transylvania and in the Maramures area, and I can make a few recommendations in those areas if you are interested. Please feel free to contact me at valbu@comcast.net or info@romaniangenealogy.com. Vicki Albu Romanian Genealogy Society -----Original Message----- From: BANAT [mailto:banat-bounces+valbu=comcast.net@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bastian Jones Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 4:43 AM To: banat@rootsweb.com Subject: [BANAT-L] Travelling to the Banat Hello fellow list members, I am planning to go and see the cities in the Banat where my grandfather and my ancestors lived (Tschanad, Keglewichhausen, Marienfeld). Does anybody of you already have experience with such a travel? I'm thinking about costs, hotels, a tour guide/driver? I am living in Germany so going to Romania should not be a big problem (probably flying). However, I am not speaking Romanian and I'm also not familiar with the "do-s and don't-s" of such a travel ;) Happy to get any help, ideas and feedback from you. Best regards, Bastian ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message