Hello, Some months ago, I had asked about getting the employment records for my great-uncle and was happy to receive several emails telling of others' success. Well...... My uncle was a career employee with US Customs in NYC, from at least 1918 onward. I followed all the instructions on the National Civilian Personnel website and sent off my letter in November 2005. By this March, I still hadn't heard anything, so I called. They couldn't find my letter and told me to fax it and that I should hear back in 2 weeks, as they were not backlogged at all. I faxed it. Three weeks later, I called again. They couldn't find the fax. I re-faxed it. Waited; called again. Called again yesterday and re-faxed it and immediately called to tell the lady (I am now on a first name basis there) that it had been faxed. I don't know what the problem is--all she could tell me was that without a Social Security number, they can't track requests. My uncle didn't have a SSN--he was born in 1885 and was a federal employee all his life. Has anyone tried to get records from them for someone without an SSN? Any luck? They told me that with the info I sent they should be able to find his records (name, birthdate and place, place of employment, and dates employed and I added his wife's name, too). They had no explanation as to why I hadn't received ANYTHING back--even a confirmation letter. I am getting frustrated, especially since I had heard from others how great the service was and how many records they got back. Thanks! Mona--guess I am just venting

Next Time: ASK for "His Application" or a Social Security . Suppy the necessasy chain of relationships to prove who you are, There is a special form that you must use to get a "COPY OF HIS APPLICATION FOR SOCIAL; SECURITY NUMBER. . It fortunate, it will give you his family history back one more generation. Bud in Arizona

Hi, He never had a Social Security Number, so no use in asking for his application--he never applied for one, as he didn't need one. Thanks for writing, though. Mona ----- Original Message ----- From: William Flanagan<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Follow-up Federal civilian employment records Next Time: ASK for "His Application" or a Social Security . Suppy the necessasy chain of relationships to prove who you are, There is a special form that you must use to get a "COPY OF HIS APPLICATION FOR SOCIAL; SECURITY NUMBER. . It fortunate, it will give you his family history back one more generation. Bud in Arizona ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== Please Check Our New web site for the BALTGEN-L mailing list. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim/baltgen-l.htm<http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim/baltgen-l.htm>

It seems to be impossible to get a copy of an application for a Social Security record if the applicant did not earn enough credits to collect social security. My father had a number, but when I wrote for his application I was told that he did not have a number. A phone call to the office was really frustrating. While I held his card in my hand I was told that he did not have a social security number. I read the number to the person to whom I was talking. She very nastily told me that the card must be an illegal one and asked if my father was an alien. I explained that he was born in Maryland as were his ancestors since at least the early 1700's. She was not impressed and told me again that the card did not exist. I visited the local Social Security office to find out what was going on. My father was in business for himself and did not pay in enough to collect Social Security, therefore the government did not even know that he was dead. If living, he would have been age 112. I was then informed that if he did not collect his social security there was no way I could get a record of his application. Government sometimes is not very smart. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Flanagan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Follow-up Federal civilian employment records > Next Time: > > ASK for "His Application" or a Social Security . > Suppy the necessasy chain of relationships to prove who you are, > > There is a special form that you must use to get a "COPY > OF HIS APPLICATION FOR SOCIAL; SECURITY NUMBER. . > > It fortunate, it will give you his family history back one more > generation. > > Bud in Arizona > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > Please Check Our New web site for the BALTGEN-L mailing list. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim/baltgen-l.htm > >