I also have German immigrant ancestors in Baltimore that in census records say origin Cohessen but haven't been able to identify this locality. Have checked some old gazzeteers. Any suggestions? -----Original Message----- From: Pansy Rumsey [mailto:pansy.rumsey@verizon.net] Sent: Wed 5/31/2006 3:57 PM To: BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Germans in Baltimore Hi John, My husband's GGGGrandparents came to America in 1847. I have a copy of the ship's manifest that they came on.The ship arrived at the Port of Baltimore in May,1847. They were Heinrich and Margarethe Bloom Richter and their 4 sons, Heinrich,Johannes,Freidrich and Melchior.According to the info from the ship's log, they were from Drasenberg, Cor Hessen.. Heinrich was a tailor in Germany. They sailed from Bremen on board the Marianne. ~~Family lore says they were related to the Baron Von Richtoffen family but I do not know this and can not prove it. Just my husband said his mother told him the WW1 ace,Red Baron, was her great uncle. I do know that Heinrich and Margrethe lived in Baltimore City for approx 3 yrs. and then moved to Catonsville, where they stayed the rest of their lives and they are buried in Deer Park Cemetery. I also know they had a few more children after arriving here. I do not know either Heinrich or Margrethe's parents names, nor the exact area in Germany where they lived. Nor do I know if either one had siblings that remained in Germany or perhaps came here.For real - someone else on that ship may have been related to them but I do not know them. This is all things I would like to find answers too. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Siemon" <jsiemon@bcpl.net> To: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 9:01 PM Subject: [BALTGEN-L] Germans in Baltimore > In the last couple days, several people have posted messages saying they are > trying to trace German ancestors in Baltimore, but with little information > provided, including the names they are looking for. > > A couple suggestions to hopefully get much more help from the list: > > 1. Your message is probably going to several hundred people. Change the > subject line to what you are looking for, and address it to the list, not > just to individuals. > > 2. Put specific names, time periods, what you already know, and what you've > searched for unsuccessfully. > > We may not find your ancestors, but many on the list are familiar with what > records are available and have access to some of them. You'll be more > likely to get help if you follow the above. > > For Janet, have you searched the 1840 Census for him? You apparently know > ship and arrival date? Have you searched the 1837 Baltimore City Directory > at: http://aomol.net/html/officials.html > It's probably a long shot, but worth a look. It's also possible he didn't > stay in Baltimore at all? > > For Pat, places where you might find the town of origin: passenger arrival > lists (including "Germans to America" and the original microfilmed lists), > emigration records from ports of debarkation. All of these are becoming > more available at Ancestry and other sites. Naturalization petitions, > marriage records, death certificates, newspaper death notices, the more > detailed obituaries in German language newspapers in Baltimore and other > large cities. In a great stroke of luck, 2 of my German ancestors listed > their two German towns of birth in the 1880 Census. Unfortunately, most of > those records don't usually list the town, but you never know when they > will. So you need to search for all of these documents you can find. And > of course check any books on the subject, as Debbie in NC suggested. If you > have specific information you are looking for, post it to the list. > > John > -----Original Message----- > From: JLLYNJAM@aol.com [mailto:JLLYNJAM@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 7:27 PM > To: BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BALTGEN-L] Re: BALTGEN-D Digest V06 #116 > > Debbie in NC: I am also wondering where my German ancestors lived in > Baltimore after arriving there from Bremen in 1836. By 1841 he had settled > in St. > Clair Co., IL. I have lost him, tho from 1836-1841. Perhaps he waited in > Baltimore > until he could be naturalized. But where would he have lived? > Also, I am interested in the books you mentioned. Janet McLain > Jllynjam@aol.com > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > Please make sure the options in your E mail program disables quoting the > message in HTML when posting to any Roots-L mailing list. > > > > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > The USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Baltimore Co. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim >

Hi Carol, From what I can find on the map, Cor Hessen is a county in Germany. Beyond that I do not know. Wish "I did. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wald, Carol" <wald@humnet.ucla.edu> To: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 2:30 PM Subject: RE: [BALTGEN-L] Baltimore ancestors fr. Cohessen > I also have German immigrant ancestors in Baltimore that in census records say origin Cohessen but haven't been able to identify this locality. Have checked some old gazzeteers. Any suggestions? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pansy Rumsey [mailto:pansy.rumsey@verizon.net] > Sent: Wed 5/31/2006 3:57 PM > To: BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Germans in Baltimore > > Hi John, > My husband's GGGGrandparents came to America in 1847. I have a copy of > the ship's manifest that they came on.The ship arrived at the Port of > Baltimore in > May,1847. They were Heinrich and Margarethe Bloom Richter and their 4 sons, > Heinrich,Johannes,Freidrich and Melchior.According to the info from the > ship's log, they were from Drasenberg, Cor Hessen.. Heinrich was a tailor in > Germany. > They sailed from Bremen on board the Marianne. ~~Family lore says they were > related to the Baron Von Richtoffen family but I do not know this and can > not prove it. Just my husband said his mother told him the WW1 ace,Red > Baron, was her great uncle. I do know that Heinrich and Margrethe lived in > Baltimore City for > approx 3 yrs. and then moved to Catonsville, where they stayed the rest of > their lives and they are buried in Deer Park Cemetery. I also know they had > a few more children after arriving here. > I do not know either Heinrich or Margrethe's parents names, nor the > exact area in Germany where they lived. Nor do I know if either one had > siblings that > remained in Germany or perhaps came here.For real - someone else on that > ship may have been related to them but I do not know them. This is all > things I would like to find answers too. > Pat > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Siemon" <jsiemon@bcpl.net> > To: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 9:01 PM > Subject: [BALTGEN-L] Germans in Baltimore > > > > In the last couple days, several people have posted messages saying they > are > > trying to trace German ancestors in Baltimore, but with little information > > provided, including the names they are looking for. > > > > A couple suggestions to hopefully get much more help from the list: > > > > 1. Your message is probably going to several hundred people. Change the > > subject line to what you are looking for, and address it to the list, not > > just to individuals. > > > > 2. Put specific names, time periods, what you already know, and what > you've > > searched for unsuccessfully. > > > > We may not find your ancestors, but many on the list are familiar with > what > > records are available and have access to some of them. You'll be more > > likely to get help if you follow the above. > > > > For Janet, have you searched the 1840 Census for him? You apparently know > > ship and arrival date? Have you searched the 1837 Baltimore City > Directory > > at: http://aomol.net/html/officials.html > > It's probably a long shot, but worth a look. It's also possible he didn't > > stay in Baltimore at all? > > > > For Pat, places where you might find the town of origin: passenger arrival > > lists (including "Germans to America" and the original microfilmed lists), > > emigration records from ports of debarkation. All of these are becoming > > more available at Ancestry and other sites. Naturalization petitions, > > marriage records, death certificates, newspaper death notices, the more > > detailed obituaries in German language newspapers in Baltimore and other > > large cities. In a great stroke of luck, 2 of my German ancestors listed > > their two German towns of birth in the 1880 Census. Unfortunately, most > of > > those records don't usually list the town, but you never know when they > > will. So you need to search for all of these documents you can find. And > > of course check any books on the subject, as Debbie in NC suggested. If > you > > have specific information you are looking for, post it to the list. > > > > John > > -----Original Message----- > > From: JLLYNJAM@aol.com [mailto:JLLYNJAM@aol.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 7:27 PM > > To: BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [BALTGEN-L] Re: BALTGEN-D Digest V06 #116 > > > > Debbie in NC: I am also wondering where my German ancestors lived in > > Baltimore after arriving there from Bremen in 1836. By 1841 he had settled > > in St. > > Clair Co., IL. I have lost him, tho from 1836-1841. Perhaps he waited in > > Baltimore > > until he could be naturalized. But where would he have lived? > > Also, I am interested in the books you mentioned. Janet McLain > > Jllynjam@aol.com > > > > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > > Please make sure the options in your E mail program disables quoting the > > message in HTML when posting to any Roots-L mailing list. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > > The USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Baltimore Co. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim > > > > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > Please note that hitting reply will send your response to the entire list. > Please respond to people privately and not through the list unless your response > contains information of general interest. >