Have you checked federal censuses, MD, for the families of Valentine, and of his wife? If you have any info on parents' names [I see you know his wife's father was named John], I'd be glad to take a look for you. Were Valentine's parents named on his death certificate? ...Kim Danielsen [email protected] wrote: Just wanted to share our good fortune with the mailing list and message boards . We owe it all to fellow researchers on these boards and lists. Without their help we wud still be facing that brickwall. A big thanks to all the folks on the boards and lists that offered suggestions and advice. Here is what it now looks like. With hard work from fellow researchers in Baltimore, Maryland we have found my wife's great great grandfather homeplace. Valentin MULLER/MUELLER/MILLER was born in Lorbach, Hessen Darmstadt. He was born there 25 March 1825 and came to the US c 1847 settling in Baltimore, Maryland. He married Mary KLEIBER/GLEBER sometime about 1850. Do not know if he married Mary in Germany or Baltimore. Mary KLEIBER/GLEIBER b 1826 in Hessen Darmstadt. Do not know if Mary was also born in Lorbach . Mary's father John was born c 1799 according to 1850 census and he also settled in Baltimore. Understand Lorbach was annexed by the nearby city of Budingen. So Lorbach is now a section of Budingen. We found that Valetin was Lutheran and it has been suggested that Lorbach is the Hermhaag Lutheran parish. Valentin died in 22 Apr 1877 in Maryland and he was survived by his mother, a sister and 10 children. Do not know anything about his mother, siblings or father at this time. Do have information about his children. Appears his mother and sister came to Baltimore area but have not found out when they arrived. The obituary that was published in Der Deutsche Correspondent states the funeral was from his mother's house 151 East Pratt St. Have not yet been able to identify his mother or what family members were living at that address in 1877. We found that he was buried in Baltimore Cemetery but have not been able to locate his grave. His burial plot provided additional information regarding other family connections to include the name BUCKMASTER. With this information my wife and I have quite a few challenges still facing us. We are interested in finding out all we can about Valentin homeplace. We are naturally interested in finding out more about his birth, family, parents, siblings, etc. Biggest question is how do we proceed. Where can we find the records, etc. Understood we needed to know the town before we could get any info. Now that we know he was born in Lorbach Budingen Hesse Darmstadt how can we get additional information. Appreciate any help, assistance and suggestions. Please contact us at [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) or [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Again our thanks to all the fellow researchers that helped us along the way. Walt (mailto:[email protected]) ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== USGenWeb/MDGenWeb site for Carroll Co. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdcarrol USGenWeb/MDGenWeb site for Howard Co.http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdhoward