Would like to exchange information with anyone interested in a GRAHAM family that lived in Baltimore during the mid and/or late 1880s or the early 1900s. Researching: Graham, Brady, Corrigan, Popple

HOG ALLEY 600 BLOCK S. DEAN ST PIGS WERE DRIVE UP TO SEL MAYER,S SLAUGHTER HOUSE ORANGEVILLE AREA AROUND ASHLAND AVE AND KRESSON STS( RAIL ROAD AREA ) WHERE A BOX CAR OF ORANGES WAS OPEN BY SOME KIDS CAUSING THE ORANGES TO SPILL ALL OVER THE AREA SHELL ROAD NOW FLEET STREET WAS PAVED WITH OYSTER SHELLS THUS GETTING THE NAME LEMMON STREET COMMONLY KNONW BY CAB DRIVERS AS SOUR ALLEY THE LONGEST STREET IN BALTIMORE EITHER THE 25 OR 26OO BLOCK OF WILKINS AVE THE SHORTEST STREET IS OHIO ST JUST SOUTH OF WILKINS AVE ON MONROE STREET

Thanks Jan, this is what I have always understood - I only mentioned it because I thought it was a pretty well known fact. I guess not. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Putty Hill Avenue > This may have been answered prior, Pigtown evolved from pigs being run > thru the streets to the slaughterhouse. Goose hill Patterson Park area same > explaination. This comes from my Mother who is 93. Jan > > ========Original Message======== Subj: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Putty Hill Avenue > Date: 3/7/2006 9:19:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time From: > [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) To: [email protected]_ > (mailto:[email protected]) Sent on: > Thanks Phil, that sounds like something someone else mentioned - "clay > hill". Place and road names fascinate me and make me very curious about > their origin, ie, Pig Town. > > Betty > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Stackhouse" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 10:13 PM > Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Putty Hill Avenue > > > > A Google search turned up the following on an old version of the > > Baltimore County Public Library web page for Perry Hall: > > > > "Perry Hall includes about 13 square miles of land. The community's > > western edge is Putty Hill, named for the sloping ground that meets > > White Marsh Run." > > > > Phil > > > > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > > The Baltimore County Genealogical Society web site: > > http://www.serve.com/bcgs/bcgs.html > > > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Anne Arundel Co. - 350 Years of Settlement > 1649-1999 > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdannear > > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > The Baltgen-L list focuses on GENEALOGY research for > Baltimore, Anne Arundel, Harford, and Howard Cos. MD >

Bud, Thanks for the input. You say it was dropped off maps, doesn't it exist anymore? Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Flanagan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Putty Hill Avenue > Flanagan Lane off Falls Road in Mt Wshington was named for the number of > Flanagans living and playing in the Lane. > > The Flanagan Lane name was dropped in maps after 1940. > > Bud Flanagan, in Arizona > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Anne Arundel Co. - 350 Years of Settlement > 1649-1999 > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdannear >

This may have been answered prior, Pigtown evolved from pigs being run thru the streets to the slaughterhouse. Goose hill Patterson Park area same explaination. This comes from my Mother who is 93. Jan ========Original Message======== Subj: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Putty Hill Avenue Date: 3/7/2006 9:19:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time From: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Sent on: Thanks Phil, that sounds like something someone else mentioned - "clay hill". Place and road names fascinate me and make me very curious about their origin, ie, Pig Town. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Stackhouse" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Putty Hill Avenue > A Google search turned up the following on an old version of the > Baltimore County Public Library web page for Perry Hall: > > "Perry Hall includes about 13 square miles of land. The community's > western edge is Putty Hill, named for the sloping ground that meets > White Marsh Run." > > Phil > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > The Baltimore County Genealogical Society web site: > http://www.serve.com/bcgs/bcgs.html > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Anne Arundel Co. - 350 Years of Settlement 1649-1999 http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdannear

Flanagan Lane off Falls Road in Mt Wshington was named for the number of Flanagans living and playing in the Lane. The Flanagan Lane name was dropped in maps after 1940. Bud Flanagan, in Arizona

Thanks Phil, that sounds like something someone else mentioned - "clay hill". Place and road names fascinate me and make me very curious about their origin, ie, Pig Town. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Stackhouse" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Putty Hill Avenue > A Google search turned up the following on an old version of the > Baltimore County Public Library web page for Perry Hall: > > "Perry Hall includes about 13 square miles of land. The community's > western edge is Putty Hill, named for the sloping ground that meets > White Marsh Run." > > Phil > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > The Baltimore County Genealogical Society web site: > http://www.serve.com/bcgs/bcgs.html >

A Google search turned up the following on an old version of the Baltimore County Public Library web page for Perry Hall: "Perry Hall includes about 13 square miles of land. The community's western edge is Putty Hill, named for the sloping ground that meets White Marsh Run." Phil

In a message dated 3/6/2006 9:50:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: As far as I know it has always been Putty Hill Avenue. It runs from Hillen Road to Ridge Road. I lived on Putty Hill Road. It was off Harford Road near what was then a high school. When we left in 1963 there was a sign directly across the street from our house saying they were going to put up a shopping center. At that time it was a farm. At the end of the block was Police Precinct 08 at 8532 Old Harford Road.

As far as I know it has always been Putty Hill Avenue. It runs from Hillen Road to Ridge Road. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Putty Hill Avenue > > In a message dated 3/6/2006 9:18:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Thanks Diana, either one sound posible. Errors do stick and become > accepted. Actually, on my bank atm record, Putty Hill Super Fresh is now > spelled POTTY Hill. Hope that doesn't get around. > > > > I lived on Putty Hill Road for five years in the 1950's. Never thought > about the name other than it was ugly. Is the Road different from the Avenue? > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Anne Arundel Co. - 350 Years of Settlement > 1649-1999 > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdannear >

In a message dated 3/6/2006 9:18:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Thanks Diana, either one sound posible. Errors do stick and become accepted. Actually, on my bank atm record, Putty Hill Super Fresh is now spelled POTTY Hill. Hope that doesn't get around. I lived on Putty Hill Road for five years in the 1950's. Never thought about the name other than it was ugly. Is the Road different from the Avenue?

Thanks Diana, either one sound posible. Errors do stick and become accepted. Actually, on my bank atm record, Putty Hill Super Fresh is now spelled POTTY Hill. Hope that doesn't get around. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 7:03 AM Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Putty Hill Avenue > I remembering reading something a while back. May have been part of a history of Parkville. > > There is two suggested origins: > > Putty Hill - The area has some really great clay (putty). If you are familiar with the Giant shopping center on BelAir Road (just north of the beltway) - before it was built, it was a bunch of little undulating mounds of clay. > > The other is the it is a corruption of 'Pretty Hill'. > > Diana > > -----Original Message----- > From: Betty V. Hartman <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 23:16:20 -0500 > Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Putty Hill Avenue > > > Sorry, I wasn't thinking. > > Betty > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Betty V. Hartman" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 10:43 PM > Subject: [BALTGEN-L] Putty Hill Avenue > > > > Okay all you Baltimore County Historians; my husband asked what seemed a > silly question until I thought about it, but he wanted to know how Putty > Hill Ave. got its name? I am sure someone out there can answer this. > Thanks in advance. > > > > Betty > > > > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > > This list is for Genealogical Only, > > Join us at [email protected] for discussions on > > culture and heritage in the Baltimore area > > > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Anne Arundel Co. - 350 Years of Settlement > 1649-1999 > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdannear > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > Please note that hitting reply will send your response to the entire list. > Please respond to people privately and not through the list unless your response > contains information of general interest. >

I remembering reading something a while back. May have been part of a history of Parkville. There is two suggested origins: Putty Hill - The area has some really great clay (putty). If you are familiar with the Giant shopping center on BelAir Road (just north of the beltway) - before it was built, it was a bunch of little undulating mounds of clay. The other is the it is a corruption of 'Pretty Hill'. Diana -----Original Message----- From: Betty V. Hartman <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 23:16:20 -0500 Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Putty Hill Avenue Sorry, I wasn't thinking. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty V. Hartman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 10:43 PM Subject: [BALTGEN-L] Putty Hill Avenue > Okay all you Baltimore County Historians; my husband asked what seemed a silly question until I thought about it, but he wanted to know how Putty Hill Ave. got its name? I am sure someone out there can answer this. Thanks in advance. > > Betty > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogical Only, > Join us at [email protected] for discussions on > culture and heritage in the Baltimore area > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Anne Arundel Co. - 350 Years of Settlement 1649-1999 http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdannear

Sorry, I wasn't thinking. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty V. Hartman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 10:43 PM Subject: [BALTGEN-L] Putty Hill Avenue > Okay all you Baltimore County Historians; my husband asked what seemed a silly question until I thought about it, but he wanted to know how Putty Hill Ave. got its name? I am sure someone out there can answer this. Thanks in advance. > > Betty > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogical Only, > Join us at [email protected] for discussions on > culture and heritage in the Baltimore area >

Okay all you Baltimore County Historians; my husband asked what seemed a silly question until I thought about it, but he wanted to know how Putty Hill Ave. got its name? I am sure someone out there can answer this. Thanks in advance. Betty

Jean, Here is the link the BCPL's Database Troubleshooting page, http://www.bcpl.info/databases_help.html#heritagequest This should solve your problem. Ellen Ward -----Original Message----- From: J W [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 9:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [BALTGEN-L] Heritage Quest Importance: Low Anyone else having problems using the Baltimore County's Heritage Quest Online? Every time I log on and select the Census link I get a "Authentication Failed" error notice. Can anyone tell me how to fix it? I have already added this site to my exception list but my firewall application wants the url in a series of numbers which I can't find. Jean ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== The Baltimore County Genealogical Society web site: http://www.serve.com/bcgs/bcgs.html

FYI; For out of print books, you can still call Family Line Publishing, aka Heritage Quest to request a reprint of that book, and they will keep a list until it merritts a re-print, and will notify you when completed. Use that 1-800 number to do that. ( 1-800-876-6103 ). Tim R. ***** >>> [email protected] 03/05/06 3:47 AM >>> George Nuetzel wrote: > Tom, > > I am fairly certain there is at least one more volume. This book > contains 270 > pages of very comprehensive information re the Methodist Church in > Baltimore. > > Inside the front cover there is a telephone contact for Family Line > Publications who published this book. For more information call: > 1-800-876-6103 Using the link another poster provided, I see that there is a second volume covering 1830-1839, but it is out of print. > I looked for Marcellus Ray. No listings for him, but listed under RAY > are the > following persons: > Elizabeth - married John Pickett May 27, 1802 > John - married Elizabeth Iser October 29, 1816 > Mary - burial October 2, 1825 age 17 > Richard - married Mary Ann Martin July 9, 1815 > Richard D. - removed from the city October 1818 Thanks very much for looking. He is very elusive. That John Ray-Elizabeth Iser marriage looks interesting, though, as my best estimate for Marcellus's birth is 1817. -- Thomas M. Sommers -- [email protected] -- AB2SB

George Nuetzel wrote: > Tom, > > I am fairly certain there is at least one more volume. This book > contains 270 > pages of very comprehensive information re the Methodist Church in > Baltimore. > > Inside the front cover there is a telephone contact for Family Line > Publications who published this book. For more information call: > 1-800-876-6103 Using the link another poster provided, I see that there is a second volume covering 1830-1839, but it is out of print. > I looked for Marcellus Ray. No listings for him, but listed under RAY > are the > following persons: > Elizabeth - married John Pickett May 27, 1802 > John - married Elizabeth Iser October 29, 1816 > Mary - burial October 2, 1825 age 17 > Richard - married Mary Ann Martin July 9, 1815 > Richard D. - removed from the city October 1818 Thanks very much for looking. He is very elusive. That John Ray-Elizabeth Iser marriage looks interesting, though, as my best estimate for Marcellus's birth is 1817. -- Thomas M. Sommers -- [email protected] -- AB2SB

In a message dated 3/4/2006 3:02:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, Jean writes: > Can anyone tell me how to fix it? I have already added this site to my > exception list but my firewall application wants the url in a series of > numbers which I can't find. I find its more reliable if you open internet explorer and use heritage quest from there. Also, if you think your problem is the library site, you can access Heritage quest from here for MD: http://www.sailor.lib.md.us/index.html

Just a note about the books on Baltimore Methodist Records- I find it very curious how anyone can write a book about Baltimore Methodist Records and have NEVER visited the official Baltimore Methodist Archives at Lovely Lane Museum and Archives. Not only are there way more records than the books contain but anyone can go in and actually go through the ORIGINAL records. Touch the old ledger books, see the notes written in the margins or see the little note cards and letters. See the handwriting change, read the trustee books or any of the other records for that church. See if their relative help start that church. My relatives in Baltimore were all Methodist but you couldn't tell that by the books in print. Jane Thursby From England to Maryland by the early 1700's and still Maryland. Researching: Thursby, Stinchecum, Seward, Clag(g)ett, McNamara, Barnes, Muckelroy, Watkins, Kennard, Fallin, Snyder, Griffin, Benson, Cullison, Shipley, Beall, White, Wheatly, Mullineaux, Lee, Norris, Waugh, Oldner, Davis, Sasscer, Fell, Keith, Benton, Hitchcock, Clark, Moxley, Norwood, Lewis, Tydings, Lamb, Gassaway, Holland, Musgrove Also through George Schaffer (Chip): Schaffer, Appel, Dinsmore, Fischer, Yeagle, Suman, Soellner, Franz, Baker, Albert, Miller, Buzzard, Kitzmiller, Loeb, Stougel, Rohr, Turner, Wilson, Schichadanz