Sorry, Etta and Kathy: I got your e mail on the request below and then I couldn't find it again. I think I actually deleted it somehow. Could you send it too me again, I am so sorry? Thank you again. Letty Wambaugh [email protected] LGaia wrote: > Etta and Kathy: > Could you send me the obit for Margaret E. Kreiner from the Balto Sun, > October 18, 1918. Thank you so much. > Letty Wambaugh > [email protected] > > >> >> ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== >> Please note that hitting reply will send your response to the entire >> list. >> Please respond to people privately and not through the list unless >> your response >> contains information of general interest. >> >> > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > The USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Baltimore Co. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim > >

Mount Olive Cemetery is in Randallstown on Liberty Road, it dates back to the late 1700s. >I have just located some ancestors in the 1870 census, living in the >Randallstown P.O. I know that they had several children who died, and that >they are not in their plot at Western Cemetery (later they moved into the >city). If a German Lutheran living in the Randallstown area in the 1870s >had to bury someone, any ideas where they would go? I don't know what >church they belonged to, unfortunately. Any ideas for where I might look >out there? > >--Carol Ann Wald > > >==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== >Please Check Our New web site for the BALTGEN-L mailing list. >http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim/baltgen-l.htm

Hi, If they were on a farm, they may be buried there. Some of our relatives are buried on a farm on Philadelphia Rd. (Different part of the county, but still...). Mona

Mt. Olive is Methodist, so is Ward's Chapel, Mt. Paran is Presbyterian, Holy Family is Catholic. Those are the ones that are on Liberty Road that I know have cemeteries. Kathi Jones-Hudson MD Tombstone Transcription Project Manager http://www.rootsweb.com/~cemetery/maryland/maryland.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

You must keep in mind that there are numerous Church Cemeteries in and around the Randallstown area, up and down Liberty Road. I do not have specific ones at this time because I am not at home. Tim R. ***** >>> [email protected] 05/08/06 6:42 AM >>> Largest nearby cemetery is Woodlawn on Liberty Road. In a message dated 5/8/2006 5:05:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I have just located some ancestors in the 1870 census, living in the Randallstown P.O. I know that they had several children who died, and that they are not in their plot at Western Cemetery (later they moved into the city). If a German Lutheran living in the Randallstown area in the 1870s had to bury someone, any ideas where they would go? I don't know what church they belonged to, unfortunately. Any ideas for where I might look out there? --Carol Ann Wald ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== The Maryland Genealogical Society web site is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdsgs

Largest nearby cemetery is Woodlawn on Liberty Road. In a message dated 5/8/2006 5:05:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I have just located some ancestors in the 1870 census, living in the Randallstown P.O. I know that they had several children who died, and that they are not in their plot at Western Cemetery (later they moved into the city). If a German Lutheran living in the Randallstown area in the 1870s had to bury someone, any ideas where they would go? I don't know what church they belonged to, unfortunately. Any ideas for where I might look out there? --Carol Ann Wald

I have just located some ancestors in the 1870 census, living in the Randallstown P.O. I know that they had several children who died, and that they are not in their plot at Western Cemetery (later they moved into the city). If a German Lutheran living in the Randallstown area in the 1870s had to bury someone, any ideas where they would go? I don't know what church they belonged to, unfortunately. Any ideas for where I might look out there? --Carol Ann Wald

I wanted to thank each and everyone of you for your thoughts on an Autopsy report. I found your opinions and thoughts quite helpful. Thank you again for your time on this. Peggy -----Original Message----- From: Peggy Coughlan [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 7:23 PM To: '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'; '[email protected]' Subject: Question - Is an Autopsy report considered a Vital Record? I have a question for the list. I had a close relative who died and an autopsy was performed on him. My understanding is that it is pretty Graphic and I wonder if this report would be considered a vital record. If the autopsy was performed in Maryland would it offer me any additional details? I have his death record and know his cause of death. I would appreciate any thoughts on this subject. Peggy

If interested in full text, please contact ETTA at [email protected] Include date of newspaper with your request. A - K ADAMS, Sallie Francis AMOS, Arthur L. ASHE, Bessie BELL, Carrie L. BIGGS, Mary E. BIRX, Mrs. Ella F. BLAKE, Antoinette BRADLEY, Mary > BRANDT, Maud Hammond > BROCK, William > BUTLER, Elsie > CARNEY, Mollie > CARTWRIGHT, Amy H. > COFFIN, Nannie Jamison > COLLISON, J. Wesley > CRIDLEN, Anna > DAWSON, Clarence C. > DETTMER, William Clarence > DeVRIES, Catherine W. > DI PAULA, Adeline > DRADLEY, Mary > ECKLES, Minnie M. > EDGERTON, Mary > FABISZAK, Michael > FARRELL, Michael > FEARS, James Leslie > FORRESTER, Mrs. Virginia Buckingham > FORSTER, Anna Regina > GERBER, Kunigunda M. > GIBSON, Andrew J. > GRAMMER, William A. > GREASLEY, Edwin > GREGERSON, Eyler > GROSS, Julia J. > HAINES, John J. > HAMMER, Bernhardt J. > HANES, Mary G. > HARRISON, William J. > HEATH, Loretta May > HEMLING, Sophia M. > HOLLEY, Mary Teresa Bowers > HOLLINGSWORTH, Elizabeth > HOOD, Charles R. > HORNUNG, John Karl > HRUBER, August > HULLETT, Alice Janice > JEFFRES, Margaret > JESTER, Durhia G. > JOHNSON, Charles G. > KAMMER, Mary Elizabeth > KANE, John H. > KIRCHNER, Louis W. > KLIPPER, Belle > KOKE, Albert F. > KOONS, Sadie > KORPMAN, Grace > KRAMER, Clarence W. > KREBS, James . > KREINER, Margaret E. Kathy for Etta [email protected]

Etta and Kathy: Could you send me the obit for Margaret E. Kreiner from the Balto Sun, October 18, 1918. Thank you so much. Letty Wambaugh [email protected] > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > Please note that hitting reply will send your response to the entire > list. > Please respond to people privately and not through the list unless > your response > contains information of general interest. > >

Hi I am looking for living descendants of Dr. Richard Sappington and his wife Cassandra Durbin who are buried at Bolle Rock Golf Course in Havre de Grace, Maryland. I am in the process of getting the cemetery were Richard & Cassandra are buried cleaned and repaired and also place a SAR Patriots Marker at the grave of Dr. Sappington. Thanks, Christopher T. Smithson Registrar/Past President - Col. Aquila Hall Chapter, MDSSAR www.sar.org/mdssar/ =========== CHRISTOPHER T. SMITHSON 4219 PADDRICK ROAD DARLINGTON, MD 21034-1034 (410) 836-3433 - HOME (443) 243-1827 - CELL [email protected]

Yes, the index is wonderful. It is laborious to check by date. Thank you, Joan --- [email protected] wrote: > > BALTGEN-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 82 > > Today's Topics: > #1 confusion- Obit Index ["Kathy" > <[email protected]>] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from BALTGEN-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, > but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, > too. > > ______________________________> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:24:43 -0400 > From: "Kathy" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: confusion- Obit Index > > Thank-you all for your responses. But there seems > to be some confusion..... > > I asked if anyone was using the Obit Index that Etta > and I put together. I > was referring to the Index on the website > www.rootsweb.com/~mdcbalti , > not to the obits that Etta is posting on these > Mailing Lists (that is > another good deed that Etta is doing). The website > is for the Balto City > GenWeb project. Gayle has alot of good stuff there- > obits, birth > announcements, wills, passenger lists etc (submitted > by readers) as well as > info on cemeteries, census etc. > > Gayle has alot of obits on there, but Etta and I saw > a need for an > alphabetical Index and created one for 1838-1901. > We want to make sure > it's being used..... It's tedious work but we will > go forward (to > 1900-1999), if it is being used.... > > Lee has a similar site for Balto Co that everyone > should be aware of too. > Great info and submissions by readers. > www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim > > Sorry I am repeating myself- I have posted this info > several times before, > but there are A LOT of Listers out there who are > unaware of these sites. > > Thanks, > Kathy [email protected] > > ----- Original > Message ----- > From: "Rose McLaughlin" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 6:53 AM > Subject: Obit Index > > > > Please do not stop, I always check them! >

Hi Peggy: I see you have had a couple of responses. Allow me to answer this from my physician's perspective. First, it is going to be exceedingly difficult for you to obtain an autopsy report without some legal standing as to why you should have access. In this day of HIPAA (I always get that abbreviation wrong), it's tough enough to obtain medical records on my patients as a physician. (By the way, despite using my MD letterhead and citing medical issues, I have been denied access to medical reports of my grandfather who died 50 years ago!). However, if you are going to look, you need to know where the autopsy was done. These days at least, there are generally two options. First, if the patient was hospitalized and died as an in-patient there is a good chance that the post-mortem was done at the hospital by a staff pathologist and the results become part of the deceased's medical record. There are some instances where a post-mortem may be done outside the hospital, such as questionable death, death within less than 24 hours of admission, no available pathologist, etc. Secondly, the postmortem may have been done by the medical examiner. In Baltimore City this is both a city and state level function. Medical examiner PMs are done when there is a question of foul play, when there is unexpected death, etc. The medical examiners office in Baltimore is on the campus of the University of Maryland Medical School (but is a separate state office). I haven't a clue where their records are archived. Now, why would you really want a post-mortem exam for genealogy purposes? You would of course pin point the date and anatomic cause of death, but frankly the remainder is generally not only tough for the lay person to understand but quite gory. It's especially unpleasant when you knew the individual. If you've ever attended an autopsy, you will know that it is just another job to the pathologist, it's done in a very cold and calculating manner, which is of course, how it should be. When my grandmother died suddenly and unexpectedly at my mother's home in 1969, an autopsy was required. Interestingly a copy was sent to my mother, which I saw many years later. It was sobering to read the medical jargon organ by organ and know that this had been the person that had lived with my family for years. Just my two cents, from a slightly different perspective. Gary 4 May 2006 Baltimore http://home.att.net/~g.ruppert Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 19:22:35 -0400 From: "Peggy Coughlan" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: Question - Is an Autopsy report considered a Vital Record? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a question for the list. I had a close relative who died and an autopsy was performed on him. My understanding is that it is pretty Graphic and I wonder if this report would be considered a vital record. If the autopsy was performed in Maryland would it offer me any additional details? I have his death record and know his cause of death. I would appreciate any thoughts on this subject. Peggy

In a message dated 5/4/2006 9:11:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Pam writes: > This is the source for the entry in the IGI at familysearch.org: > > Title > Baltimore County (Maryland) marriage licenses, 1777-1846, 1777-1846 > > Authors > Baltimore County (Maryland). Clerk of the Circuit Court (Main Author) Hi Pam, I believe I can help clear this up for you. If I am wrong maybe someone else can clarify it. THe record you describe at the LDS site sounds like a court clerks book (listed as main author) THis book would list the date of the marriage license was applied for (or picked up) I went to an old calendar and found out that the 3rd of May 1849 was a THursday and the 7th was a Monday. Its possible that the 7th was the day that the marriage was recorded at the clerks office if they got married on the weekend (courts are closed) Debbie

No, the autopsy report is not vital record - I think it would be considered part of the Medical Examiner's records. Unfortunately, there does not seem to be a good repository for those records. A cousin and I were looking for one from the 1920's and got nowhere. The state archives says that the city archives has them. After trying several numbers, we finally reached the city archives and were informed that they only have a few years of them, and the visiting hours are limited, you must make an appointment, etc. Have you tried the newspaper? In our case, the death (a suicide) was detailed in several newspaper articles. Jodee

I have a question for the list. I had a close relative who died and an autopsy was performed on him. My understanding is that it is pretty Graphic and I wonder if this report would be considered a vital record. If the autopsy was performed in Maryland would it offer me any additional details? I have his death record and know his cause of death. I would appreciate any thoughts on this subject. Peggy

Hello, May I have a copy of the OBIT for KIMBALL, William, Balto. Sun, 10/17/1918 Thank you very much. Betty Brinsfield Hughson

IN 1848 the city was part of the County, so there is only one set of Baltimore marriage licenses for 1848. The data you listed is correct. There is a card index of all Baltimore marriages from 1777 to 1851 that had been extracted. All the records of marriage licenses are on microfilm up to at least 1930s. The county and city marriage records are separate files starting in 1851. It is very possible that the marriage date taken from either a church record or notice in the newspaper could be a few days after the license date. I checked the Baltimore Marriages in Sun (paper 1837-1851) and did not see David BELDEN to Emily Parmelee marriages listed there. Lee >Hello, > >If anyone has the time and access to the record, would you please check a >marriage record for me? Maybe a local Family History Center would have the >film in house or live close to a library that would have the marriage >records. I need to verify which is the correct date of the marriage. > >BELDEN ( Beldon / Beldin / Belding ), David Douglas to PARMELEE ( Parmalee >/ Parmulee ), Emily C > >3 May 1849, Baltimore - from IGI, extracted record; > Source Information: > Batch No.: M704078 ; Dates: 1848 - 1850; Source Call No.: > 0013694; Type: Film; Printout Call No.: NONE > >7 May 1849, Baltimore - from obit and biographies > >I am not sure if Baltimore is referring to City or County but believe it is >probably County. > >Have asked for a lookup of this record twice, once on a CD and once in >marriage announcements in the paper and nothing was found. To add to the >confusion, the other day I was looking at an Ohio Marriage book and found a >marriage for this couple on the 7 May 1849 in Ohio under the name Douglas D. >Belden and it says Emily C is of Baltimore, MD. Since the IGI listed the >entry as an extracted record, there has to be something in Baltimore, MD so >I went back to family search and looked at the source for their information >and I believe this probably answers my question. Even though the entry is >listed as a marriage, the source looks like it is actually marriage >licenses. >My guess is they may have obtained the license in MD and were actually >married in OH but the only way I will know for sure is to check the marriage >records. > >This is the source for the entry in the IGI at familysearch.org: > >Title >Baltimore County (Maryland) marriage licenses, 1777-1846, 1777-1846 > >Authors >Baltimore County (Maryland). Clerk of the Circuit Court (Main Author) > >Notes >Microfilm of originals at Hall of Records, Annapolis. >There is a card index at the Hall of Records, Annapolis. > >Subjects >Maryland, Baltimore - Vital records > >Physical >2 microfilm reels ; 35 mm > >Film Notes >Licenses 1777-1832 - FHL US/CAN Film [ 13693 ] >Licenses 1832-1846 - FHL US/CAN Film [ 13694 ] > >The source even adds to the confusion because it doesn't include the dates >for the supposed marriage????? > >Thank You, >Pam Belden > > >==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== >Please make sure the options in your E mail program disables quoting the >message in HTML when posting to any Roots-L mailing list.

If interested in the full text, please contact ETTA at [email protected] Include date of newspaper with your request. K - Z KENNEDY, Emma Callista KIMBALL, William KIRK, R. G. KLAUS, Katherine KLEIN, Henry C. KOENIG, Oscar KRAUS, Charles P. KREINER, Margaret E. > KUHN, Helen D. > LANAHAN, Daniel > LAWRENCE, Mrs. Marie > LEEKE, Harry L. > LINDEMON, Harry Cullen > LOEFFLER, Lillian R. > LONGWELL, Mrs. Hattie > LORBER, Mary E. > LORENZ, Joseph B. > LUCKETT, HERLEY C. > LUPTON, Margaret E. > LYNCH, John V. > MARECKI, Michael > McCLEAN, Helen Francis > McCULLOUGH, Gertrude Alice > McGEE, Matthew J. > McNAMARA, James . > McNAMARA, Mary > MEEKS, William Howard > MENCH, Marie A > MEYER, Rose > MITCHELL, Margaret A. > MORAN, William > MOSES, Gussie > MUELLER, John G. A. > MURPHY, John J., Jr. > MURR, Barbara > MUSE, Laura Travers > MYERS, Mabel G. > NANNING, John B. > NUNNALLY, Caroline M. > O'KEEFE, James B. > OWENS, Mary E. > PAPER, Cora G. > PARKS, Della M. > PARSONS, Edward Lyz > PENNINGTON, George B. > PFORR, Clara Regina > REDMOND, Edward M. > REID, John R. > RICHARDS, Margaret T. > ROBINSON, Anna Duvall > ROBINSON, William H. > ROSENFELD, Hilda May > ROTH, Charles Edgar > RUTHS, Gustav C. > SCHAEFER, Nellie V. > SCHELLE, Ethel P. > SCHILD, Katherine > SCHULTZ, William E. > SHAFFER, Melvin > SHAKESPEAR, Walter > SHARP, Lieut. H. Stanley > SHEEHAN, James J. > SHOCK, Mamie J. > SIMPSON, Helen A. > SINCLAIR, Mary H. > SMITH, Harry > SMITH, Anna May > STAFFORD, David M. > STEWART, James E. > STORM, Florence A. > STOUT, Mary J. > SULTZER, Elsie A. > SWISHER, Mrs. Bessie > TAYLOR, Catherine > TRIBBE, Helen V. > TRIPLETT, James C. > URSPRUCH, Lydia L. > WARD, Karl P. > WATSON, Ernest J. > WATTS, Lawrence L. > WEICKEL, Ethel Louise > WHALEN, Peter McCoy > WHITE, William H. > WHITE, William M. > WICKER, Wiliam H. > WILHELM, Grace F. > WILLIAMS, Senator J. Dawson > ZIMMERMAN, Alice kathy for Etta [email protected]

Hello, If anyone has the time and access to the record, would you please check a marriage record for me? Maybe a local Family History Center would have the film in house or live close to a library that would have the marriage records. I need to verify which is the correct date of the marriage. BELDEN ( Beldon / Beldin / Belding ), David Douglas to PARMELEE ( Parmalee / Parmulee ), Emily C 3 May 1849, Baltimore - from IGI, extracted record; Source Information: Batch No.: M704078 ; Dates: 1848 - 1850; Source Call No.: 0013694; Type: Film; Printout Call No.: NONE 7 May 1849, Baltimore - from obit and biographies I am not sure if Baltimore is referring to City or County but believe it is probably County. Have asked for a lookup of this record twice, once on a CD and once in marriage announcements in the paper and nothing was found. To add to the confusion, the other day I was looking at an Ohio Marriage book and found a marriage for this couple on the 7 May 1849 in Ohio under the name Douglas D. Belden and it says Emily C is of Baltimore, MD. Since the IGI listed the entry as an extracted record, there has to be something in Baltimore, MD so I went back to family search and looked at the source for their information and I believe this probably answers my question. Even though the entry is listed as a marriage, the source looks like it is actually marriage licenses. My guess is they may have obtained the license in MD and were actually married in OH but the only way I will know for sure is to check the marriage records. This is the source for the entry in the IGI at familysearch.org: Title Baltimore County (Maryland) marriage licenses, 1777-1846, 1777-1846 Authors Baltimore County (Maryland). Clerk of the Circuit Court (Main Author) Notes Microfilm of originals at Hall of Records, Annapolis. There is a card index at the Hall of Records, Annapolis. Subjects Maryland, Baltimore - Vital records Physical 2 microfilm reels ; 35 mm Film Notes Licenses 1777-1832 - FHL US/CAN Film [ 13693 ] Licenses 1832-1846 - FHL US/CAN Film [ 13694 ] The source even adds to the confusion because it doesn't include the dates for the supposed marriage????? Thank You, Pam Belden