In a message dated 5/31/2006 2:03:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Pat writes writes: > Which newspaper would be most likely to carry an obit for a High Point > - Pasadena resident in 1950. > Hi Pat, This would probably be the Maryland Gazette. Debbie

Hi John, My husband's GGGGrandparents came to America in 1847. I have a copy of the ship's manifest that they came on.The ship arrived at the Port of Baltimore in May,1847. They were Heinrich and Margarethe Bloom Richter and their 4 sons, Heinrich,Johannes,Freidrich and Melchior.According to the info from the ship's log, they were from Drasenberg, Cor Hessen.. Heinrich was a tailor in Germany. They sailed from Bremen on board the Marianne. ~~Family lore says they were related to the Baron Von Richtoffen family but I do not know this and can not prove it. Just my husband said his mother told him the WW1 ace,Red Baron, was her great uncle. I do know that Heinrich and Margrethe lived in Baltimore City for approx 3 yrs. and then moved to Catonsville, where they stayed the rest of their lives and they are buried in Deer Park Cemetery. I also know they had a few more children after arriving here. I do not know either Heinrich or Margrethe's parents names, nor the exact area in Germany where they lived. Nor do I know if either one had siblings that remained in Germany or perhaps came here.For real - someone else on that ship may have been related to them but I do not know them. This is all things I would like to find answers too. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Siemon" <jsiemon@bcpl.net> To: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 9:01 PM Subject: [BALTGEN-L] Germans in Baltimore > In the last couple days, several people have posted messages saying they are > trying to trace German ancestors in Baltimore, but with little information > provided, including the names they are looking for. > > A couple suggestions to hopefully get much more help from the list: > > 1. Your message is probably going to several hundred people. Change the > subject line to what you are looking for, and address it to the list, not > just to individuals. > > 2. Put specific names, time periods, what you already know, and what you've > searched for unsuccessfully. > > We may not find your ancestors, but many on the list are familiar with what > records are available and have access to some of them. You'll be more > likely to get help if you follow the above. > > For Janet, have you searched the 1840 Census for him? You apparently know > ship and arrival date? Have you searched the 1837 Baltimore City Directory > at: http://aomol.net/html/officials.html > It's probably a long shot, but worth a look. It's also possible he didn't > stay in Baltimore at all? > > For Pat, places where you might find the town of origin: passenger arrival > lists (including "Germans to America" and the original microfilmed lists), > emigration records from ports of debarkation. All of these are becoming > more available at Ancestry and other sites. Naturalization petitions, > marriage records, death certificates, newspaper death notices, the more > detailed obituaries in German language newspapers in Baltimore and other > large cities. In a great stroke of luck, 2 of my German ancestors listed > their two German towns of birth in the 1880 Census. Unfortunately, most of > those records don't usually list the town, but you never know when they > will. So you need to search for all of these documents you can find. And > of course check any books on the subject, as Debbie in NC suggested. If you > have specific information you are looking for, post it to the list. > > John > -----Original Message----- > From: JLLYNJAM@aol.com [mailto:JLLYNJAM@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 7:27 PM > To: BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BALTGEN-L] Re: BALTGEN-D Digest V06 #116 > > Debbie in NC: I am also wondering where my German ancestors lived in > Baltimore after arriving there from Bremen in 1836. By 1841 he had settled > in St. > Clair Co., IL. I have lost him, tho from 1836-1841. Perhaps he waited in > Baltimore > until he could be naturalized. But where would he have lived? > Also, I am interested in the books you mentioned. Janet McLain > Jllynjam@aol.com > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > Please make sure the options in your E mail program disables quoting the > message in HTML when posting to any Roots-L mailing list. > > > > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > The USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Baltimore Co. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim >

I would be interested in the books also. My relatives came to Baltimore before 1839 and I have not been able to find them anywhere. The names were John H. Herold and Adaline Schroeder. Thank you for your help. On Tue, 30 May 2006 00:32:39 -0400 "Debbie Spencer" <info@professionalheritage.com> wrote: > They probably came in thru the port at Annapolis. Many >German's came thru this port, yet so little was ever >documented. > > There are some excellent books on German's to MD; in >fact, one is called just that! You mention that you've >searched thru all the German books, which ones have you >combed thru? > > I grew up in Baltimore, and my step-father is 100% >German. I'm doing his genealogy, which is where I >learned of some great resources for you to get on your >own... All of the books that I used are still available >for sale, so you my friend are in luck!!! > > You may want to email me offline, as others may not be >so interested in our conversation! (I'm such a bore!!!) > > Debbie in NC > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl Miller" ><kosacktree@yahoo.com> > To: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 10:31 AM > Subject: [BALTGEN-L] Edward/Frederick Kosack/Cosack in >1860 Baltimore HELP!!! > > >> Help please with my Baltimore Mystery. >> >> I have copied the answers I received from Enoch Pratt >> as to my request for information on either Edward or >> Frederick Kosack/Cosack. Edward was married there in >> April 1860 at St. Paul's Church. >> >> I know they lived in Baltimore in 1864 as they were >> listed in the city directory as being on 171 Vine, >> there was also a Fredk & Mrs Kosack on 384 Penna. Av. >> >> I have been searching in vain for port of entry for >> this family who were from Prussia. I can't find them >> in any of the Germans to America books and I have even >> checked other spellings.According to various census >> records that I have they were here in 1859. >> Other siblings are Bertha, Augusta (she did not come >> here until 1875), Otto and Leo. Edward, Frederick, & >> Otto all fought in the Civil War for the Union and >> enlisted in Carroll Co. I have no trouble tracking >> later years it is finding where they actually came >> from and what port they arrived in. ANY help at all >> would be appreciated and I'm sorry this is so long >> winded. >> >> ANS:In reponse to your question, the 1860 Census in >> Baltimore was taken on July 9, 1860. >> >> Cheryl Miller wrote: >> >> Thank you for your response to my request. Could you >> possibly give me the date of the 1860 census >> inBaltimore? Edward Kosack was married on April 29, >> 1860 in Baltimore at St. Paul's German Ref. Church. >> Thank you,Cheryl Miller--- >> >> Ques: Information on Edward/Frederick Kosack/Cosack in >> Baltimore in 1860 >> >> Ms. Miller:Your inquiry to the Periodicals Department >> at thePratt Library has been forwarded to me in >> theMaryland Department.I have done some searching for >> you for Edward andFrederick Kosack/Cosack in the 1860 >> census and findno one with these names in Baltimore or >> in Maryland at that time.I did find an Edward Kosack >> in 1870 in WashingtonDC. There was a Frederick Kosack >> also living inWashington DC in 1870 and two Frederick >> Cosacksliving in Bladensburg in Prince George's County >> in1880. Unfortunately, I found no one with those >> surnames at all in 1860.I hope that this information >> is of some use. >> >> Cheryl Miller, Alton, VA >> Gardening,Stampin' & Genealogy - full time hobbies >> http://community.webshots.com/user/catsmom106 >> www.splitcoaststampers.com/go/troublesmom >> >> >> ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== >> The USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Baltimore Co. >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim >> >> > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Anne Arundel Co. - 350 Years >of Settlement > 1649-1999 > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdannear >

May be The Kuethe Library (Historical Society) and The Annapolis Gazette. ----- Original Message ----- From: "mona everett" <cowpost@msn.com> To: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] 1963 Article about Glen Burnie Park Resident Andrew Soeder > Is there a by-line? Or are places mentioned (where he lived--maybe a > retirement home)? Or other people mentioned? You might need your detective > skills! Is there an historical society for Glen Burnie? > > Let us know what works! > > Mona > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carol Wald<mailto:wald@humnet.ucla.edu> > To: BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 3:29 AM > Subject: [BALTGEN-L] 1963 Article about Glen Burnie Park Resident Andrew > Soeder > > > I am at my wits' end with this one: a family member gave me a xerox > copy of one page of a May 1, 1963 newspaper article about an ancestor > named Andrew Soeder--BUT--she didn't know the name of the paper. The > headline is "A Look at the Past: At 95, He Thinks Old Beer Was Better". > The article says that he lived in Glen Burnie Park. I've tried asking > the Anne Arundel County Library and the Pratt without success. Can > anyone help me figure out which paper this might be in and where to get > it?? This is a really maddening one . . . > > Thanks . . . > > --Carol Ann Wald > Los Angeles > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > The USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Baltimore Co. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim<http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim> > > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > Please note that hitting reply will send your response to the entire list. > Please respond to people privately and not through the list unless your > response > contains information of general interest. >

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Is there a by-line? Or are places mentioned (where he lived--maybe a retirement home)? Or other people mentioned? You might need your detective skills! Is there an historical society for Glen Burnie? Let us know what works! Mona ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Wald<mailto:wald@humnet.ucla.edu> To: BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 3:29 AM Subject: [BALTGEN-L] 1963 Article about Glen Burnie Park Resident Andrew Soeder I am at my wits' end with this one: a family member gave me a xerox copy of one page of a May 1, 1963 newspaper article about an ancestor named Andrew Soeder--BUT--she didn't know the name of the paper. The headline is "A Look at the Past: At 95, He Thinks Old Beer Was Better". The article says that he lived in Glen Burnie Park. I've tried asking the Anne Arundel County Library and the Pratt without success. Can anyone help me figure out which paper this might be in and where to get it?? This is a really maddening one . . . Thanks . . . --Carol Ann Wald Los Angeles ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== The USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Baltimore Co. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim<http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim>

Debbie, There are Baltimore City Directories at the Maryland State Archives going back into the early 1800's. Unfortunately, they are all on microfiche so you will have to find someone to look up your ancestor in these directories. I would do it for you but am unable to go to the archives myself. There are also some naturalization records available in this time frame. Norm Hare In a message dated 5/30/2006 7:28:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, JLLYNJAM@aol.com writes: Debbie in NC: I am also wondering where my German ancestors lived in Baltimore after arriving there from Bremen in 1836. By 1841 he had settled in St. Clair Co., IL. I have lost him, tho from 1836-1841. Perhaps he waited in Baltimore until he could be naturalized. But where would he have lived? Also, I am interested in the books you mentioned. Janet McLain Jllynjam@aol.com

I am at my wits' end with this one: a family member gave me a xerox copy of one page of a May 1, 1963 newspaper article about an ancestor named Andrew Soeder--BUT--she didn't know the name of the paper. The headline is "A Look at the Past: At 95, He Thinks Old Beer Was Better". The article says that he lived in Glen Burnie Park. I've tried asking the Anne Arundel County Library and the Pratt without success. Can anyone help me figure out which paper this might be in and where to get it?? This is a really maddening one . . . Thanks . . . --Carol Ann Wald Los Angeles

In the last couple days, several people have posted messages saying they are trying to trace German ancestors in Baltimore, but with little information provided, including the names they are looking for. A couple suggestions to hopefully get much more help from the list: 1. Your message is probably going to several hundred people. Change the subject line to what you are looking for, and address it to the list, not just to individuals. 2. Put specific names, time periods, what you already know, and what you've searched for unsuccessfully. We may not find your ancestors, but many on the list are familiar with what records are available and have access to some of them. You'll be more likely to get help if you follow the above. For Janet, have you searched the 1840 Census for him? You apparently know ship and arrival date? Have you searched the 1837 Baltimore City Directory at: http://aomol.net/html/officials.html It's probably a long shot, but worth a look. It's also possible he didn't stay in Baltimore at all? For Pat, places where you might find the town of origin: passenger arrival lists (including "Germans to America" and the original microfilmed lists), emigration records from ports of debarkation. All of these are becoming more available at Ancestry and other sites. Naturalization petitions, marriage records, death certificates, newspaper death notices, the more detailed obituaries in German language newspapers in Baltimore and other large cities. In a great stroke of luck, 2 of my German ancestors listed their two German towns of birth in the 1880 Census. Unfortunately, most of those records don't usually list the town, but you never know when they will. So you need to search for all of these documents you can find. And of course check any books on the subject, as Debbie in NC suggested. If you have specific information you are looking for, post it to the list. John -----Original Message----- From: JLLYNJAM@aol.com [mailto:JLLYNJAM@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 7:27 PM To: BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BALTGEN-L] Re: BALTGEN-D Digest V06 #116 Debbie in NC: I am also wondering where my German ancestors lived in Baltimore after arriving there from Bremen in 1836. By 1841 he had settled in St. Clair Co., IL. I have lost him, tho from 1836-1841. Perhaps he waited in Baltimore until he could be naturalized. But where would he have lived? Also, I am interested in the books you mentioned. Janet McLain Jllynjam@aol.com ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== Please make sure the options in your E mail program disables quoting the message in HTML when posting to any Roots-L mailing list.

No, I do not live in or near Md. Wish I did. We live in California. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Spencer" <info@professionalheritage.com> To: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Edward/Frederick Kosack/Cosack in 1860 Baltimore HELP!!! > Pat - do you live in Maryland and have access to the MD Archives, or better > yet, the MD Historical Society? They have a great selection of books... > Keep in mind that many Germans came thru NY, or Phila. I know yours came > thru Baltimore, but don't overlook some great books that their title begins > with PA (for ex. PA Germans to MD, a great book!) You can do searches at > Genealogical Publishing Inc's website - they have a wonderful selection of > rock solid research books that I use frequently. > > Good luck! > > Debbie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pansy Rumsey" <pansy.rumsey@verizon.net> > To: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 4:51 AM > Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Edward/Frederick Kosack/Cosack in 1860 Baltimore > HELP!!! > > > > Hi Debbie, My husband's ancestry is 100% German. They came thru the port > > of > > Baltimore, lived in the city for 3 yrs then moved to Catonsville.If you > > have > > ways tp find the area they came from in Germany and how I could find their > > parentage, I > > would greatly appreciate the help. Pat > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Debbie Spencer" <info@professionalheritage.com> > > To: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 9:32 PM > > Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Edward/Frederick Kosack/Cosack in 1860 Baltimore > > HELP!!! > > > > > >> They probably came in thru the port at Annapolis. Many German's came > >> thru > >> this port, yet so little was ever documented. > >> > >> There are some excellent books on German's to MD; in fact, one is called > >> just that! You mention that you've searched thru all the German books, > >> which ones have you combed thru? > >> > >> I grew up in Baltimore, and my step-father is 100% German. I'm doing his > >> genealogy, which is where I learned of some great resources for you to > >> get > >> on your own... All of the books that I used are still available for > >> sale, > >> so you my friend are in luck!!! > >> > >> You may want to email me offline, as others may not be so interested in > > our > >> conversation! (I'm such a bore!!!) > >> > >> Debbie in NC > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Cheryl Miller" <kosacktree@yahoo.com> > >> To: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 10:31 AM > >> Subject: [BALTGEN-L] Edward/Frederick Kosack/Cosack in 1860 Baltimore > >> HELP!!! > >> > >> > >> > Help please with my Baltimore Mystery. > >> > > >> > I have copied the answers I received from Enoch Pratt > >> > as to my request for information on either Edward or > >> > Frederick Kosack/Cosack. Edward was married there in > >> > April 1860 at St. Paul's Church. > >> > > >> > I know they lived in Baltimore in 1864 as they were > >> > listed in the city directory as being on 171 Vine, > >> > there was also a Fredk & Mrs Kosack on 384 Penna. Av. > >> > > >> > I have been searching in vain for port of entry for > >> > this family who were from Prussia. I can't find them > >> > in any of the Germans to America books and I have even > >> > checked other spellings.According to various census > >> > records that I have they were here in 1859. > >> > Other siblings are Bertha, Augusta (she did not come > >> > here until 1875), Otto and Leo. Edward, Frederick, & > >> > Otto all fought in the Civil War for the Union and > >> > enlisted in Carroll Co. I have no trouble tracking > >> > later years it is finding where they actually came > >> > from and what port they arrived in. ANY help at all > >> > would be appreciated and I'm sorry this is so long > >> > winded. > >> > > >> > ANS:In reponse to your question, the 1860 Census in > >> > Baltimore was taken on July 9, 1860. > >> > > >> > Cheryl Miller wrote: > >> > > >> > Thank you for your response to my request. Could you > >> > possibly give me the date of the 1860 census > >> > inBaltimore? Edward Kosack was married on April 29, > >> > 1860 in Baltimore at St. Paul's German Ref. Church. > >> > Thank you,Cheryl Miller--- > >> > > >> > Ques: Information on Edward/Frederick Kosack/Cosack in > >> > Baltimore in 1860 > >> > > >> > Ms. Miller:Your inquiry to the Periodicals Department > >> > at thePratt Library has been forwarded to me in > >> > theMaryland Department.I have done some searching for > >> > you for Edward andFrederick Kosack/Cosack in the 1860 > >> > census and findno one with these names in Baltimore or > >> > in Maryland at that time.I did find an Edward Kosack > >> > in 1870 in WashingtonDC. There was a Frederick Kosack > >> > also living inWashington DC in 1870 and two Frederick > >> > Cosacksliving in Bladensburg in Prince George's County > >> > in1880. Unfortunately, I found no one with those > >> > surnames at all in 1860.I hope that this information > >> > is of some use. > >> > > >> > Cheryl Miller, Alton, VA > >> > Gardening,Stampin' & Genealogy - full time hobbies > >> > http://community.webshots.com/user/catsmom106 > >> > www.splitcoaststampers.com/go/troublesmom > >> > > >> > > >> > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > >> > The USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Baltimore Co. > >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > >> USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Anne Arundel Co. - 350 Years of Settlement > >> 1649-1999 > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdannear > >> > > > > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > > The Maryland Genealogical Society web site is: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdsgs > > > > > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Anne Arundel Co. - 350 Years of Settlement > 1649-1999 > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdannear >

At 07:27 PM 5/30/2006, you wrote: >Debbie in NC: I am also wondering where my German ancestors lived in >Baltimore after arriving there from Bremen in 1836. By 1841 he had settled >in St. >Clair Co., IL. I have lost him, tho from 1836-1841. Perhaps he waited in >Baltimore >until he could be naturalized. But where would he have lived? >Also, I am interested in the books you mentioned. Janet McLain >Jllynjam@aol.com There is one book listing Baltimore Port entries, from 1820 to 1832 (If I recall correctly) and yes there were a number of Germans that came directly into Baltimore listed therein, including one pair of my ancestors in 1828. I know that my ancestors were not listed in the 1830 census, so I guess they were in someone else's household. but there are records for their children baptisms in early 1830s and then I have their deeds starting in 1838 when they bought land. So in that era the point of entry was Baltimore often (vs. Philadelphia which was the common port of entry in the 18th century for the mid-Atlantic area. Lee

Which newspaper would be most likely to carry an obit for a High Point - Pasadena resident in 1950. Any advice appreciated. Pat

Debbie in NC: I am also wondering where my German ancestors lived in Baltimore after arriving there from Bremen in 1836. By 1841 he had settled in St. Clair Co., IL. I have lost him, tho from 1836-1841. Perhaps he waited in Baltimore until he could be naturalized. But where would he have lived? Also, I am interested in the books you mentioned. Janet McLain Jllynjam@aol.com

Pat - do you live in Maryland and have access to the MD Archives, or better yet, the MD Historical Society? They have a great selection of books... Keep in mind that many Germans came thru NY, or Phila. I know yours came thru Baltimore, but don't overlook some great books that their title begins with PA (for ex. PA Germans to MD, a great book!) You can do searches at Genealogical Publishing Inc's website - they have a wonderful selection of rock solid research books that I use frequently. Good luck! Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pansy Rumsey" <pansy.rumsey@verizon.net> To: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 4:51 AM Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Edward/Frederick Kosack/Cosack in 1860 Baltimore HELP!!! > Hi Debbie, My husband's ancestry is 100% German. They came thru the port > of > Baltimore, lived in the city for 3 yrs then moved to Catonsville.If you > have > ways tp find the area they came from in Germany and how I could find their > parentage, I > would greatly appreciate the help. Pat > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Debbie Spencer" <info@professionalheritage.com> > To: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 9:32 PM > Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Edward/Frederick Kosack/Cosack in 1860 Baltimore > HELP!!! > > >> They probably came in thru the port at Annapolis. Many German's came >> thru >> this port, yet so little was ever documented. >> >> There are some excellent books on German's to MD; in fact, one is called >> just that! You mention that you've searched thru all the German books, >> which ones have you combed thru? >> >> I grew up in Baltimore, and my step-father is 100% German. I'm doing his >> genealogy, which is where I learned of some great resources for you to >> get >> on your own... All of the books that I used are still available for >> sale, >> so you my friend are in luck!!! >> >> You may want to email me offline, as others may not be so interested in > our >> conversation! (I'm such a bore!!!) >> >> Debbie in NC >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Cheryl Miller" <kosacktree@yahoo.com> >> To: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 10:31 AM >> Subject: [BALTGEN-L] Edward/Frederick Kosack/Cosack in 1860 Baltimore >> HELP!!! >> >> >> > Help please with my Baltimore Mystery. >> > >> > I have copied the answers I received from Enoch Pratt >> > as to my request for information on either Edward or >> > Frederick Kosack/Cosack. Edward was married there in >> > April 1860 at St. Paul's Church. >> > >> > I know they lived in Baltimore in 1864 as they were >> > listed in the city directory as being on 171 Vine, >> > there was also a Fredk & Mrs Kosack on 384 Penna. Av. >> > >> > I have been searching in vain for port of entry for >> > this family who were from Prussia. I can't find them >> > in any of the Germans to America books and I have even >> > checked other spellings.According to various census >> > records that I have they were here in 1859. >> > Other siblings are Bertha, Augusta (she did not come >> > here until 1875), Otto and Leo. Edward, Frederick, & >> > Otto all fought in the Civil War for the Union and >> > enlisted in Carroll Co. I have no trouble tracking >> > later years it is finding where they actually came >> > from and what port they arrived in. ANY help at all >> > would be appreciated and I'm sorry this is so long >> > winded. >> > >> > ANS:In reponse to your question, the 1860 Census in >> > Baltimore was taken on July 9, 1860. >> > >> > Cheryl Miller wrote: >> > >> > Thank you for your response to my request. Could you >> > possibly give me the date of the 1860 census >> > inBaltimore? Edward Kosack was married on April 29, >> > 1860 in Baltimore at St. Paul's German Ref. Church. >> > Thank you,Cheryl Miller--- >> > >> > Ques: Information on Edward/Frederick Kosack/Cosack in >> > Baltimore in 1860 >> > >> > Ms. Miller:Your inquiry to the Periodicals Department >> > at thePratt Library has been forwarded to me in >> > theMaryland Department.I have done some searching for >> > you for Edward andFrederick Kosack/Cosack in the 1860 >> > census and findno one with these names in Baltimore or >> > in Maryland at that time.I did find an Edward Kosack >> > in 1870 in WashingtonDC. There was a Frederick Kosack >> > also living inWashington DC in 1870 and two Frederick >> > Cosacksliving in Bladensburg in Prince George's County >> > in1880. Unfortunately, I found no one with those >> > surnames at all in 1860.I hope that this information >> > is of some use. >> > >> > Cheryl Miller, Alton, VA >> > Gardening,Stampin' & Genealogy - full time hobbies >> > http://community.webshots.com/user/catsmom106 >> > www.splitcoaststampers.com/go/troublesmom >> > >> > >> > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== >> > The USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Baltimore Co. >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim >> > >> > >> >> >> ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== >> USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Anne Arundel Co. - 350 Years of Settlement >> 1649-1999 >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdannear >> > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > The Maryland Genealogical Society web site is: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdsgs > >

Hi Debbie, My husband's ancestry is 100% German. They came thru the port of Baltimore, lived in the city for 3 yrs then moved to Catonsville.If you have ways tp find the area they came from in Germany and how I could find their parentage, I would greatly appreciate the help. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Spencer" <info@professionalheritage.com> To: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Edward/Frederick Kosack/Cosack in 1860 Baltimore HELP!!! > They probably came in thru the port at Annapolis. Many German's came thru > this port, yet so little was ever documented. > > There are some excellent books on German's to MD; in fact, one is called > just that! You mention that you've searched thru all the German books, > which ones have you combed thru? > > I grew up in Baltimore, and my step-father is 100% German. I'm doing his > genealogy, which is where I learned of some great resources for you to get > on your own... All of the books that I used are still available for sale, > so you my friend are in luck!!! > > You may want to email me offline, as others may not be so interested in our > conversation! (I'm such a bore!!!) > > Debbie in NC > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cheryl Miller" <kosacktree@yahoo.com> > To: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 10:31 AM > Subject: [BALTGEN-L] Edward/Frederick Kosack/Cosack in 1860 Baltimore > HELP!!! > > > > Help please with my Baltimore Mystery. > > > > I have copied the answers I received from Enoch Pratt > > as to my request for information on either Edward or > > Frederick Kosack/Cosack. Edward was married there in > > April 1860 at St. Paul's Church. > > > > I know they lived in Baltimore in 1864 as they were > > listed in the city directory as being on 171 Vine, > > there was also a Fredk & Mrs Kosack on 384 Penna. Av. > > > > I have been searching in vain for port of entry for > > this family who were from Prussia. I can't find them > > in any of the Germans to America books and I have even > > checked other spellings.According to various census > > records that I have they were here in 1859. > > Other siblings are Bertha, Augusta (she did not come > > here until 1875), Otto and Leo. Edward, Frederick, & > > Otto all fought in the Civil War for the Union and > > enlisted in Carroll Co. I have no trouble tracking > > later years it is finding where they actually came > > from and what port they arrived in. ANY help at all > > would be appreciated and I'm sorry this is so long > > winded. > > > > ANS:In reponse to your question, the 1860 Census in > > Baltimore was taken on July 9, 1860. > > > > Cheryl Miller wrote: > > > > Thank you for your response to my request. Could you > > possibly give me the date of the 1860 census > > inBaltimore? Edward Kosack was married on April 29, > > 1860 in Baltimore at St. Paul's German Ref. Church. > > Thank you,Cheryl Miller--- > > > > Ques: Information on Edward/Frederick Kosack/Cosack in > > Baltimore in 1860 > > > > Ms. Miller:Your inquiry to the Periodicals Department > > at thePratt Library has been forwarded to me in > > theMaryland Department.I have done some searching for > > you for Edward andFrederick Kosack/Cosack in the 1860 > > census and findno one with these names in Baltimore or > > in Maryland at that time.I did find an Edward Kosack > > in 1870 in WashingtonDC. There was a Frederick Kosack > > also living inWashington DC in 1870 and two Frederick > > Cosacksliving in Bladensburg in Prince George's County > > in1880. Unfortunately, I found no one with those > > surnames at all in 1860.I hope that this information > > is of some use. > > > > Cheryl Miller, Alton, VA > > Gardening,Stampin' & Genealogy - full time hobbies > > http://community.webshots.com/user/catsmom106 > > www.splitcoaststampers.com/go/troublesmom > > > > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > > The USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Baltimore Co. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim > > > > > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Anne Arundel Co. - 350 Years of Settlement > 1649-1999 > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdannear >

They probably came in thru the port at Annapolis. Many German's came thru this port, yet so little was ever documented. There are some excellent books on German's to MD; in fact, one is called just that! You mention that you've searched thru all the German books, which ones have you combed thru? I grew up in Baltimore, and my step-father is 100% German. I'm doing his genealogy, which is where I learned of some great resources for you to get on your own... All of the books that I used are still available for sale, so you my friend are in luck!!! You may want to email me offline, as others may not be so interested in our conversation! (I'm such a bore!!!) Debbie in NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl Miller" <kosacktree@yahoo.com> To: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 10:31 AM Subject: [BALTGEN-L] Edward/Frederick Kosack/Cosack in 1860 Baltimore HELP!!! > Help please with my Baltimore Mystery. > > I have copied the answers I received from Enoch Pratt > as to my request for information on either Edward or > Frederick Kosack/Cosack. Edward was married there in > April 1860 at St. Paul's Church. > > I know they lived in Baltimore in 1864 as they were > listed in the city directory as being on 171 Vine, > there was also a Fredk & Mrs Kosack on 384 Penna. Av. > > I have been searching in vain for port of entry for > this family who were from Prussia. I can't find them > in any of the Germans to America books and I have even > checked other spellings.According to various census > records that I have they were here in 1859. > Other siblings are Bertha, Augusta (she did not come > here until 1875), Otto and Leo. Edward, Frederick, & > Otto all fought in the Civil War for the Union and > enlisted in Carroll Co. I have no trouble tracking > later years it is finding where they actually came > from and what port they arrived in. ANY help at all > would be appreciated and I'm sorry this is so long > winded. > > ANS:In reponse to your question, the 1860 Census in > Baltimore was taken on July 9, 1860. > > Cheryl Miller wrote: > > Thank you for your response to my request. Could you > possibly give me the date of the 1860 census > inBaltimore? Edward Kosack was married on April 29, > 1860 in Baltimore at St. Paul's German Ref. Church. > Thank you,Cheryl Miller--- > > Ques: Information on Edward/Frederick Kosack/Cosack in > Baltimore in 1860 > > Ms. Miller:Your inquiry to the Periodicals Department > at thePratt Library has been forwarded to me in > theMaryland Department.I have done some searching for > you for Edward andFrederick Kosack/Cosack in the 1860 > census and findno one with these names in Baltimore or > in Maryland at that time.I did find an Edward Kosack > in 1870 in WashingtonDC. There was a Frederick Kosack > also living inWashington DC in 1870 and two Frederick > Cosacksliving in Bladensburg in Prince George's County > in1880. Unfortunately, I found no one with those > surnames at all in 1860.I hope that this information > is of some use. > > Cheryl Miller, Alton, VA > Gardening,Stampin' & Genealogy - full time hobbies > http://community.webshots.com/user/catsmom106 > www.splitcoaststampers.com/go/troublesmom > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > The USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Baltimore Co. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim > >

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Hi, Has anyone had any genealogical dealings with Prospect Hill Cemetery? Are they helpful? Do they charge for look-ups? Thanks! Mona

Kathy, Sometimes census answers were given by a relative, who didn't really know where the person was born. Sometimes, people just don't want others to know their business. My grandparents were divorced. When my grandfather died, his daughter gave the information and said he was widowed. She also gave his birth place as being in a county that was not formed until 7 years after he was born. She was not an historian and didn't know that. Census records are not always correct. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl Miller" <kosacktree@yahoo.com> To: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Cosack etc..... > Kathy, > > I just want to update you on some new information. I > received this from John Otto who is on the Balt list > also. > > He has found my Edward as Kosuth, I am almost certain, > in the 1860 Census. Edward was married in April and > the census was June. Edward and his wife Sophia (which > is her name) are in the 17th(I think) Ward page 39. It > has his occupation, age and length of time married all > correct according to all my other records. > > I looked again at the one you sent. There could > possibly still be a link but Edward is the wrong age > and should be listed as cabinet maker, Frederick > should have been 18, Augustus, while the age is > correct it lists MD for born, Augustus Leo was born in > Prussia. I am open to all suggestions trying to sort > this family. > > > --- Kathy <treenut@bcpl.net> wrote: > >> Cheryl- I think I found them. Sometimes you have to >> search by just first >> name and country of birth or estimated year of >> birth. This works especially >> well on Ancestry, since most, if not all, of their >> years have an every >> person index. If you were doing this search on >> Heritage, you'd have to have >> his mother's first name and search for her as she is >> head of household. >> >> 1860 >> Ward 15, page 38, Balto MD >> Catharine CUSSER, 40, Ger, value of estate $200 >> Edward, 25, Ger >> Upton, 21, Ger, laborer >> Frederick, 16, Ger, app(rentice) cabinet maker >> Augustus, 10, MD >> >> Next door is a Joseph Keyser, 32, Ger. Sounds >> similar even though the >> census taker did not spell it similarly. I wonder >> if related? Has wife >> Josephine, 30, Ger and dau Kate, 1, MD. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Cheryl Miller" <kosacktree@yahoo.com> >> To: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 6:34 AM >> Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Re: BALTGEN-D Digest V06 >> #112 >> >> >> > Thanks to both who suggested different spellings. >> I >> > have tried just about every way of spelling it. I >> have >> > even tried Cosagh. I have no trouble finding them >> > after the 1870 census, it is just before. I know >> they >> > were here, I have all of their military records >> from >> > the Civil War. It just gives me they were from >> > Prussia. I perhaps need to try them over there and >> > maybe that will help. >> > >> > Cheryl >> > >> > --- Nascar2sexxx@wmconnect.com wrote: >> > >> >> In a message dated 5/22/2006 2:12:18 PM Eastern >> >> Daylight Time, Cheryl writes: >> >> >> >> >> >> > Help please with my Baltimore Mystery. >> >> > >> >> > I have copied the answers I received from Enoch >> >> Pratt >> >> > as to my request for information on either >> Edward >> >> or >> >> > Frederick Kosack/Cosack. >> >> >> >> Cheryl, >> >> Is it possible that the name was Cusick. >> THats >> >> how my cousin spells her >> >> married name. >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== >> >> The USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Baltimore Co. >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > Cheryl Miller, Alton, VA >> > Gardening,Stampin' & Genealogy - full time hobbies >> > http://community.webshots.com/user/catsmom106 >> > www.splitcoaststampers.com/go/troublesmom >> > >> > ______________________________ >> >> >> >> ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== >> The Baltgen-L list focuses on GENEALOGY research for >> Baltimore, Anne Arundel, Harford, and Howard Cos. MD >> >> > > > Cheryl Miller, Alton, VA > Gardening,Stampin' & Genealogy - full time hobbies > http://community.webshots.com/user/catsmom106 > www.splitcoaststampers.com/go/troublesmom > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > This list is for Genealogical Only, > Join us at MD-BALTO-CUL-L@rootsweb.com for discussions on > culture and heritage in the Baltimore area > >

Kathy, I just want to update you on some new information. I received this from John Otto who is on the Balt list also. He has found my Edward as Kosuth, I am almost certain, in the 1860 Census. Edward was married in April and the census was June. Edward and his wife Sophia (which is her name) are in the 17th(I think) Ward page 39. It has his occupation, age and length of time married all correct according to all my other records. I looked again at the one you sent. There could possibly still be a link but Edward is the wrong age and should be listed as cabinet maker, Frederick should have been 18, Augustus, while the age is correct it lists MD for born, Augustus Leo was born in Prussia. I am open to all suggestions trying to sort this family. --- Kathy <treenut@bcpl.net> wrote: > Cheryl- I think I found them. Sometimes you have to > search by just first > name and country of birth or estimated year of > birth. This works especially > well on Ancestry, since most, if not all, of their > years have an every > person index. If you were doing this search on > Heritage, you'd have to have > his mother's first name and search for her as she is > head of household. > > 1860 > Ward 15, page 38, Balto MD > Catharine CUSSER, 40, Ger, value of estate $200 > Edward, 25, Ger > Upton, 21, Ger, laborer > Frederick, 16, Ger, app(rentice) cabinet maker > Augustus, 10, MD > > Next door is a Joseph Keyser, 32, Ger. Sounds > similar even though the > census taker did not spell it similarly. I wonder > if related? Has wife > Josephine, 30, Ger and dau Kate, 1, MD. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cheryl Miller" <kosacktree@yahoo.com> > To: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 6:34 AM > Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Re: BALTGEN-D Digest V06 > #112 > > > > Thanks to both who suggested different spellings. > I > > have tried just about every way of spelling it. I > have > > even tried Cosagh. I have no trouble finding them > > after the 1870 census, it is just before. I know > they > > were here, I have all of their military records > from > > the Civil War. It just gives me they were from > > Prussia. I perhaps need to try them over there and > > maybe that will help. > > > > Cheryl > > > > --- Nascar2sexxx@wmconnect.com wrote: > > > >> In a message dated 5/22/2006 2:12:18 PM Eastern > >> Daylight Time, Cheryl writes: > >> > >> > >> > Help please with my Baltimore Mystery. > >> > > >> > I have copied the answers I received from Enoch > >> Pratt > >> > as to my request for information on either > Edward > >> or > >> > Frederick Kosack/Cosack. > >> > >> Cheryl, > >> Is it possible that the name was Cusick. > THats > >> how my cousin spells her > >> married name. > >> > >> > >> ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > >> The USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Baltimore Co. > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim > >> > >> > > > > > > Cheryl Miller, Alton, VA > > Gardening,Stampin' & Genealogy - full time hobbies > > http://community.webshots.com/user/catsmom106 > > www.splitcoaststampers.com/go/troublesmom > > > > ______________________________ > > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > The Baltgen-L list focuses on GENEALOGY research for > Baltimore, Anne Arundel, Harford, and Howard Cos. MD > > Cheryl Miller, Alton, VA Gardening,Stampin' & Genealogy - full time hobbies http://community.webshots.com/user/catsmom106 www.splitcoaststampers.com/go/troublesmom