In a message dated 6/27/02 8:16:28 AM, janethursby@mindspring.com writes: << My husband's mother is an Appel. Have we connected up before? I have Appel information back to Germany for his family. >> Hi Jane: Thanks for responding to the Appel name on the message board. I could not find where we had exchanged information before. My connection to that name has not been established and I have found very little help. Here is where the name appears in my Mauler/Mahler line. It is the Naturalization papers for Herman Mahler where Henry Appel & Valentine Hase (Hax?) were witnesses, so they certainly must have known the Mauler family. Then there is a John Appel on the 1860 Baltimore census who was born about the same time as Herman Mahler. If you think there would be any connection to your Appel family, I would greatly appreciate hearing from you. Pauline Copy of Naturalization: MD Naturalization Abstracts Vol 1 Balto County and Balto City 1784-1851 (pg 249) Herman Mahler Grand Dutchy of Hesse-Darmstadt. NATN. Decl. intent in US Dist Ct 12 Oct 1846. Wits: Henry Appel & Valentine Hase (Hax?). O & RA to the Grand Duchess of Hessen Darmstadt, BC Ct. (Nat. Rc’d) 9 1845-1848 MSA C229-1 MDHR f. 714 28 Oct 1848 1850 Balto City Census 029 15th W Herman Mahler 25 Born Germ Ropemaker Margaret 26 Born Germ 1860 Baltimore ward 1 census pg 50 (John Apple 32 tailor from Germ--Mary 28 and Charles 3) ***********

Thursday, June 27, 2002, 8:09:12 AM, you wrote: JT> Saw your Appel surname. JT> My husband's mother is an Appel. Have we connected up before? I have Appel JT> information back to Germany for his family. I don't think we've communicated previously. I am descended from Frederick Appel, who was born in Bavaria in 1841. He married Mary Ellen Jubb. They had four children: Anne, Emma, Frederick and John. Researching: APPEL, BOROWSKI, CERNOHORSKY, DEMBOWCZYK, HAAS, PIETROWIAK, ZARAS Also of interest in the Baltimore area: BAKER, CHENOWETH, FLEISCHMAN, GERHMAN, GENSLER, HASENEI, HESSLER, OESTERLEIN, WAGNER

Hey, List! Yesterday I received copies of two death notices from the Pratt Library and thought I should share the names of those included on the pages: Sun from 1 Jun 1943 CROW, ROSE MARY DAVIS, GEORGE ARTHUR DAVIS, MARY ELLEN DeVILBISS, CHARLES W. DICUS, JOHN A. DUSEK, FRANCES DUVAL, WILLIAM CORNELL ELLIOTT, WILLIAM J., JR. ENGLISH, ANNA LOVING, male (only a portion on my copy) MAGRUDER, MARGARET M. McGINNIS, RICHARD McKELLAR, MAUDE Sun from 7 Aug 1955 BIERAU, NELLLIE (nee PRINZ) BIGLEY, WILLIAM GEORGE BLACKISTONE, JENNIE BRAMER, FRANK BRAUNS, WALTER STEWART DUCKWORTH, CECILIA DUNKER, KATHERINE S. (nee STEUART) DUNNOCK, MARY AGNES DUVALL, MANUEL ECKHARDT, HARRY P. EICK, DOROTHY T. ITZEE, (SCHMIDT), IDA D. (only a portion on my coy) If anyone is looking for one or more of these people, please contact me and I'll be glad to send a transcription of the notice as it appears on my copy from Pratt. Bev Researching: DUVAL(L) (Baltimore, MD); CORNELL (PA>MD); BRADY (VA>MD); DASHIELL, WHITE, SIMPKINS, WALLACE (Eastern Shore, MD); PIERCE (NY>VA); HART (England>PA); MASON, ADAMS (VA); MILLS, DAY (Montgomery Co., MD); STIMMEL (Germany>MD>PA); KELLER (Germany>NY); MARTIN, SNYDER (Clearfield Co., PA); SAGAR, WHEELER, BENTLEY (NY)

Hey, List! I've just discovered a son of the brother of my husband's grandfather: Morgan Cyril DUVAL (1906-1955) who married Eva M. (surname unknown) (1907-1989) Does anyone know if they had children? Both are buried in Baltimore National Cemetery, but apparently neither died in Maryland since their death notices do not appear in the Baltimore papers. Thanks. Bev Researching: DUVAL(L) (Baltimore, MD); CORNELL (PA>MD); BRADY (VA>MD); DASHIELL, WHITE, SIMPKINS, WALLACE (Eastern Shore, MD); PIERCE (NY>VA); HART (England>PA); MASON, ADAMS (VA); MILLS, DAY (Montgomery Co., MD); STIMMEL (Germany>MD>PA); KELLER (Germany>NY); MARTIN, SNYDER (Clearfield Co., PA); SAGAR, WHEELER, BENTLEY (NY)

Saw your Appel surname. My husband's mother is an Appel. Have we connected up before? I have Appel information back to Germany for his family. Jane -----Original Message----- From: Eric Haas [mailto:EricHaas@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 3:37 PM To: BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] City Directories Tuesday, June 25, 2002, 12:54:20 PM, you wrote: Pac> I live in Atlanta. Can anyone here tell me where the old Pac> Baltimore City directories are kept and how far they go back? Pac> Thanks. The Enoch Pratt Library has them. They were published from 1796 through 1964. http://www.pratt.lib.md.us/ Researching: APPEL, BOROWSKI, CERNOHORSKY, DEMBOWCZYK, HAAS, PIETROWIAK, ZARAS Also: BAKER, CHENOWETH, FLEISCHMAN, GERHMAN, GENSLER, HASENEI, HESSLER, OESTERLEIN, WAGNER ______________________________

In a message dated 6/26/2002 9:06:06 AM US Mountain Standard Time, BALTGEN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > www.mdhs.org Hi: I live in Arizona. Could someone tell me how I can get a marriage certificate and a death certificate. Thank you, Mary Ellen Augustine MAugust792@aol.com

Mary Ellen: Maryland Historical Society (MHS) does not have death or marriage certificates. Death, birth and marriage records from the Maryland State Archives or the Vital Statistics of the Health Dept., or for modern marriages, local circuit court. MSA has death records for Maryland's 23 counties from 1898-1987, and for Baltimore City from 1875-1987. Restricted from 10 yrs of date of death. http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/refserv/html/deathhis.html Marriage records from most local jurisdictions prior to 1914. After that date there are both statewide and local records many of which can be found at the Archives. http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/refserv/html/comarria.html MSA has birth records for the 23 counties from 1898-1978, and for Baltimore City from 1875-1978. Restricted for 100 yrs from date of birth http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/refserv/html/birthhis.html Maryland State Archives http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/ Reference Department Maryland State Archives 350 Rowe Boulevard Annapolis, MD 21401 Fax: (410) 974 2525 Email: ref@mdarchives.state.md.us Also check with the Dept. of Vital Statistics for death records after 1987 if that is what you are looking for: http://www.dhmh.state.md.us/html/vitalrec.htm For current marriage records you have to contac the circuit court in the jurisdiction you think the marriage took place in. http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/refserv/forms/html/circts.html ===== Kathi Jones-Hudson MD Tombstone Transcription Project Manager http://www.rootsweb.com/~cemetery/maryland.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

Does anyone have information on Baltimore/Ann Arundel Land records showing a property called Tanyard. I'm trying to find the original sale to Greenbury Treake during time frame 1765-1832. Land records of Baltimore County Liber A J number 222, folio 543 list a Mortgage Indenture between Samuel Brown and Greenbury Treakle for a part of tract known as Tanyard in Baltimore County. Release of mortgage is Index listing MSA WK 1292-1293 TK 277 pg. 496 (496-497). Baltimore site has original land survey. Owned by Emanuel Teal upto 1765 (certificate & plat says 637) 1702 Nathanel Stinchomb purchased it near Mr. Baker. Description says North side of the falls. Was told it would be southwest of Catonsville, in the atlas at the land called Oak Grove, Thistle Manuf. Co 117 acres, J Small Jr., J. A. Head.. Howard County and Anne Arundel put out a wonderful reproduction of the Atlas but have not found the same for Baltimore County so that I could see where the property is in relation to Ellicott City. Thanks for your help! ~Lisa Sproat Virginia Beach, VA sproats@msn.com

Can anyone tell me if the census for Baltimore city for 1900 is in book form. If so, where can I buy the book. Thank You Shirley in Louisiana

The Maryland Historical Society, downtown Baltimore, has them on micro-fishe at their Library, at >> www.mdhs.org <<. Check it out. Tim **** ----- Original Message ----- From: <Patscga@aol.com> To: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 12:54 PM Subject: [BALTGEN-L] City Directories : I live in Atlanta. Can anyone here tell me where the old Baltimore City : directories are kept and how far they go back? : Thanks.

Hello: Try the following, the folks here are very helpful and knowledgeable. ENOCH PRATT FREE LIBRARY 410-396-5430 They will research marriages, deaths and births in newspapers and also city directories. You have to give them the dates and names. Hope this helps. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: <Patscga@aol.com> To: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 9:54 AM Subject: [BALTGEN-L] City Directories > I live in Atlanta. Can anyone here tell me where the old Baltimore City > directories are kept and how far they go back? > Thanks. > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > The Baltgen-L list focuses on GENEALOGY research for > Baltimore, Anne Arundel, Harford, and Howard Cos. MD >

Tuesday, June 25, 2002, 12:54:20 PM, you wrote: Pac> I live in Atlanta. Can anyone here tell me where the old Pac> Baltimore City directories are kept and how far they go back? Pac> Thanks. The Enoch Pratt Library has them. They were published from 1796 through 1964. http://www.pratt.lib.md.us/ Researching: APPEL, BOROWSKI, CERNOHORSKY, DEMBOWCZYK, HAAS, PIETROWIAK, ZARAS Also: BAKER, CHENOWETH, FLEISCHMAN, GERHMAN, GENSLER, HASENEI, HESSLER, OESTERLEIN, WAGNER

Try this but you must have someone look what you want up or you can order it done by the archives. http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/refserv/html/citydirectories.html#Baltim ore%20City%20Directories Rick

I live in Atlanta. Can anyone here tell me where the old Baltimore City directories are kept and how far they go back? Thanks.

Seeking family data of Joseph Patterson, born about 1820 Md. married first ? had at least one daughter named Sarah b abt 1836. Married secondly Susan and had at least one son, Thomas B. Patterson. Can anyone help with this family from Baltimore, MD. Mary

At 08:49 AM 6/18/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Copied by the staff at the Maryland State Archives this past week : Kathleen, there is a sort of companion web site for this mailing list www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim if you do not mind I would like to add the will transcripts you sent to the list to the above website. there are about 252 will transcripts there so far. Lee (listowner-BALTGEN-L and coordinator for the website.)

Thought I would everyone know that my problem was with Netscape 6 & 7. If anyone has a similar problem you should use Internet Explorer. JD Rodgers JD Rodgers wrote: > Don't know what I am doing wrong but everything I click on comes up "Not Found". > > JD Rodgers > > Timothy Robinson wrote: > > > Listers, > > I have added to my HomePage, some Ships Passenger List, for all to check > > through. It covers a wide variety of Ports around the U.S., and when you go > > to the site, click on the "MORE" at the bottom of each site, so you can read > > into what the "IMAGE" is about.>>>>>>>>>> > > http://www.timrobinson.scriptingoff.com <<<<<<<<<<< Also, for all you folks > > checking WILLS of Pennsylvania, I have added quite a few years of WILLS from > > the CD covering 1682 - 1834. Again, go to the "MORE" and see what years > > they are. > > > > Tim Robinson ( http://www.timrobinson.scriptingoff.com ) > > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > > The Maryland Genealogical Society: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdsgs > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > The Baltgen-L list focuses on GENEALOGY research for > Baltimore, Anne Arundel, Harford, and Howard Cos. MD

Just a thought, JD. When this happens on my machine it usually means my phone connection is slow or noisy. M Lyle >Don't know what I am doing wrong but everything I click on comes up "Not Found". > >JD Rodgers >

Hi, Did anyone ever hear of the Grau Estate in the city of Baltimore in 1920? Michael Huber served there as a physician. There was a big Iron gate surrounding the property. Supposedly this is where Michael and his wife Magdalena Kerbel met. Thanks Kathy

My grandfather, his father and at least one brother all went from Baltimore to Nova Scotia around 1907-1909 to work. Would they have likely traveled by ship? Would they appear on the ship's list of passengers? WOuld there be a record of their passports somewhere? Where? Thanks for any info! I need to narrow down when they returned, because I am sure that is when my great-grandmother died and I have not been able to find that date. Mona