Shirley.....I'd like info on the following Bosleys: Walter, William, Charles and Elijah. Thanks again; Tom Shanklin. tomjackie@volcano.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <Sbgranger@aol.com> To: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 4:10 AM Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Baltimore Co. Families by Barnes > Tom, No Shanklin, but Bosley has several names. Please give me a specific > name as too much information to type it all. > Shirley > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > Please do not sent attachments on any E mails to the list. > >

The following obits are in the Sun of June 26, 1889. Anne FLYNN - On June 24, after a short illness, Mary Ann, wife of Patrick Flynn, and eldest and beloved daughter of Mary and the late John Kane. Her funeral will take place from the residence of her mother, No. 1022 Eastern avenue, tomorrow (Thursday) morning, at eight o'clock, thence to St. Leo's Church, where a High Mass of Requiem will be offered for the repose of her soul. FOSS - Suddenly, on June 25, Willie T., aged 7 years, youngest son of Lewis and the late Catherine Foss. His funeral will take place on this (Wednesday) afternoon, at five o'clock, from the residence of his mother, 1221 North Ann street. HEUSLER - On the evening of June 25, at 8:58 o'clock, Mabel Lula, aged 10 months, the eldest twin daughter of Samuel H. and Mary M. Heusler. Relatives and friends of the family are invited to atttend her funeral from ther residence of her parents, No. 1902 East Chase street, on Friday morning, at ten o'clock. LINN - On June 25, Terence Linn, in the 50th year of his age, beloved husband of the late Mary Linn. {nee McCALL) R.I.P. Relatives and friends of the family are respectfully invited to attend his funeral from his late residence, No.1232 Division street , on Thursday, June 27, at 8:30 o'clock, thence to the Immaculate Conception Church, where a High Mass of Requiem will be said for the repose of his soul. McENANEY - Departed this life, on June 25, 1889, 8:15 o'clock A.M., Ella Loretta, aged 6 months, beloved daughter of John and Elizabeth McEnaney. Funeral will take place this (Wednesday) afternoon, June 25, at three o'clock, from the residence of her grandfather, Owen McEnaney, 111 Parkin street. Relatives and friends are respectfully invited. POWERS - On 2? of June, at 10:30 o'clock P.M., Edward Powers, aged 3 months and 9 days, the infant son of Joseph and Bridget Powers. The funeral will take place on this (Wednesday) afternoon, at four o'clock, from No. 21? East Lexington steet. Relatives of the family are invited to attend. PRICE - On June 25, Emma V., aged 2 months and 2 days, youngest daughter of Peter J. and Emma V. Price. Beautiful sleeper, Robed for the grave, All of our efforts Were powerless to save. Hope lingered with us As long as the breath; Then w??? triumphant And claimer her, oh Death. BY HER MOTHER The funeral will take place Thursday afternoon, June 27, at two o'clock, from the residence of her parents, No. 1?07 William street. ROBINSON - At Halleville(?) Dorchester county, Md., on June 23, Elizabeth M.H., wife of Wm. M. Robinson. Funeral from the Chapel at Greenmount Cemetery today, Wednesday, 26th instant at 10 A.M. SMALL - At Baltimore, Md., on June 25, Mary Pratt Small, wife of Gen. M.P. Small, U.S.A. (Detroit, Chicago, San FRancisco and New York papers please copy.) Services at residence, No. 10 East Madison street, at 9:15 A.M., June 27. Burial private, in York Cemetery, Penna. TEWES - On June 24, at 6:45 o'clock P.M., at the residence of his mother, No. 1747 East Lombard st., Rev. Francis J. Tewes, in the 36th year of his age, beloved son of the late Joseph and Elizabeth Tewes, and the late pastor of St. Mary's Catholic Church, Washington, D.C. (Washington papers please copy.) Funeral will take place on Thursday morning, June 27, at eight o'clock, from the above residence, thence to St. Michael's Church, where a High Mass of Requiem will be said for the repose of his soul. Relatives adn friends are respectfully invited. (No flowers.) WINGO - At No. 819 North Howard street, on June 25, at 8 o'clock P.M., of cholera infantum, Marth(sp?) Ann, infant daughter of C. E. and Elizabeth W. Wingo.

Tom, No Shanklin, but Bosley has several names. Please give me a specific name as too much information to type it all. Shirley

There's about 4 1/2 pages. Sorry, more than I can type. Will look up a specific name. I will be gone from Thurs to Monday for my family reunion. The off to Florida the next week end. Let me know by Tuesday if I can check something before I leave. Shirley

Shirley, How much is there on my STANSBURY family? Robert Stansbury > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Sbgranger@aol.com> > To: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 5:25 AM > Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Baltimore Co. Families by Barnes > > > > Hi, > > The book "Baltimore County Families" covers 1659 - 1759. Anything > within > > this time I'll be happy to look up. > > > > Shirley Ford-Bowersox > > > > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > > Please make sure the options in your E mail program disables quoting > the > > message in HTML when posting to any Roots-L mailing list. > > > > > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > The Baltgen-L list focuses on GENEALOGY research for > Baltimore, Anne Arundel, Harford, and Howard Cos. MD > >

Sharon, would give me dates so I can see if I have anything in my files. Newspapers would be a source, but need dates to look it up. Thank's, Shirley

I missed a few obits from the Baltimore Sun of July 31, 1896. VEITH - On July 29, at her late residence, No. 1529 West Lombard steet, Ursula M., aged 29 years, daughter of the late John and Kate Veith, formerly of Ellicott City, Md. Relatives and friends are invited to attend her funeral, from St. Martin's Church, at 9 A.M. this Friday. Requiem Mass will be offered for the repose of her soul. WEISE - On July 30, 1896, Walter A. Weise, in the 21st year of his age, youngest son of William G. and Margaret Weise. Funeral from the residence of his parents, No. 1117 North Carrollton avenue, on Saturday, August 1, at 4 P.M. Interment private. WENK - On July 28, 1896, Jacob Wenk, aged 56 years, beloved husband of Sadie Wenk. He has gone from his dear ones, his children, his wife, Whom he willingly toiled for and loved as his life. O God! how mysterious and how strange art Thy ways, To take away from us this loved one in the best of his days. FROM HIS WIFE AND CHILDREN Funeral from his late residence, No. 2338 McElderry street extended, on this Friday, July 31, at nine o'clock A. M. IN MEMORIAM JONES -- In loving remembrance of my beloved husband, William M. Jones, who departed this life one year ago today, July 31, 1896. Gone, but not forgotten....... {the rest is cut off my copy)

Shirley....Is the Shanklin family listed? Also, is the Bosley family listed? Thanks, Tom Shanklin. tomjackie@volcano.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <Sbgranger@aol.com> To: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Baltimore Co. Families by Barnes > Hi, > The book "Baltimore County Families" covers 1659 - 1759. Anything within > this time I'll be happy to look up. > > Shirley Ford-Bowersox > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > Please make sure the options in your E mail program disables quoting the > message in HTML when posting to any Roots-L mailing list. > >

Hello Lee, Thank you very much for your informative history on the migration of people from Virginia to Providence! I was wondering if perhaps this could also explain why other families migrated from Virginia to other parts of Maryland besides Anne Arundel County, namely, the Quakers who formed Tucahoe, Betty's Cove, and expecially Third Haven Meeting house in Talbot County in the 1600s? Thanks again, Dee Horney Gabler Pasadena, Maryland <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chesapeake/">Dee's Chesapeake Genealogy</A> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chesapeake/ In a message dated 7/27/02 12:34:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, leeg@erols.com writes: > > A little history here, the migration of people from Virginia to > "Providence" aka Anne Arundel Co MD occured in the era of the English Civil > war. > Governor Berkley of VA was a loyal supporter of the Crown (King Charles) > and certainly did not recognize Cromwell..Berkely was also strong in his > beliefgs for the state church (of England). So in general most of the > people in VA (lower Norfolk County in particular) who supported Cromwell, > were "Puritans" or "Independents" and were among the settlers who came to > Anne Arundel Co. ca 1650-1651. One has to realize that among the Puritan > leaders, William Durrand, Edward Lloyd and Cornelius Lloyd were fined and > persecuted in VA for preacher counter to the church of England and were > among the leaders of the settlers that came to Anne Arundle Co. at the > invitation of Gov William Stone. As things heated up with Cromwell in > England there was fall out in MD with the "puritans" in Anne Arundel Co > rebelling against the "rule/ownership" of the Lord Baltimore (a Papist) and > Wm Stone.. I think the Battle of the Severn was basically fall out of the > English Civil war. It appears from what I have read, that with the > influence of Quaker missionaries in MD in the mid 1650s, several of the > "puritans" or independents adopted the Quaker beliefs. Of course the > "Puritans" in power at the time seemed to be as intolerant of other beliefs > and Gov Berkley was intolerant of them... So I would say it would be hard > to determine when some of the MD Quaker families became Quakers, it may > have been after they arrived in MD and as the reign of Cromwell was in > decline or over.. of course within 40 years MD adopted the CoE as the state > church..more of less. So at that point (ca. 1690s) it seems people were > either CoE, Catholic (particular in Southern MD), or Quakers... > Lee > >

Tim, thanks for all the work that you did for us. Shirley Litrenta

Joe: Although, a child could certainly have been born to a prostitute, I think the chances of a child simply being born out-of-wedlock is a far more likely situation ... of course, you have a few other children born to this single mother, so the situation is complicated. Anyway, as you already discovered, there are no birth registrations in Baltimore City until four years after the event that you want. Your best bet for finding some record of the birth is to locate a church record where the child was baptized. Illegitimate births occur frequently in every church record I have ever seen (although some identify the fact that the mother was not married, many simply don't make any mention of a father). To find a church, you'll need to know Catholic vs. Protestant and then research the churches nearest the address where the mother lived at the time. By the way, as an aside, Baltimore City was not a part of Baltimore County in 1871. The City became an independent entity in 1851 and remains so to this day. I doubt that prostitution was any more legal in 1871 than it is today ... but I'm sure it was practiced. As to special court records for "bastard children" ... I've not heard of that but someone more knowledgeable may have other advice. Good Luck. Gary 27 July 2002 Baltimore http://home.att.net/~g.ruppert > > I understand that birth records are not available before January 1875 for the > City of Baltimore. The person I am researching was born in October 1871 in > Baltimore, Baltimore Co., MD according to her death record and census records > from West Virginia. She was the first of five children born to a single mother > whom I cannot find in the 1870 Maryland census (or any other state). Any > suggestions? An archivist suggested her mother was a prostitute. Was > prostitution legal in Baltimore in the 1870s? Are there court records for > "bastard" children? > > Thanks in advance. > > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > The Baltimore County Genealogical Society web site: > http://www.serve.com/bcgs/bcgs.html >

Listers, I have added all the Church Records for Burials from St.Josephs Roman Catholic Church, Lee Street;Baltimore Maryland, onto my HomePage at the following URL............. >>> http://www.timrobinson.scriptingoff.com <<< These cover from 1839 up to (so far) Dec.1890 ... The process is ongoing for searchable information. Check it out, and leave a comment on how you find whats available there. Tim Robinson Catonsville Baltimore County, Maryland trobinson42@comcast.net

Shirley, thanks for the Thomas Bentley lookup in "Baltimore Families." Would you know where to find info about a Captain Carroll "releasing a dowry for a Hannah Thomas upon her marriage to Thomas Bentley?" Any info appreciated. Sharon

Hi, I am hoping that someone would know how to trace an annulled marriage. Does that mean that there is no record of the marriage? Or is there a record? Like a divorce? Thanks in advance, Arlene

The following death notices appeared in the Baltimore Sun on July 31, 1896. Hope they help someone. Anne Marie SMALL - Elizabeth Small, widow of Francis S. Kelley, and daughter of the late Thomas and Jane McCreer. Funeral this (Friday) morning, at eight o'clock. High Mass at St. John's Church. {It appears the beginning of this notice was cut off my copy 31 July 1896} KELLY - On July 29, Harry E., aged 30 years, youngest son of Sylvester R. and Catherine J. Kelly. Funeral from his late residence, No. 1320 West Lombard street, this (Friday) afternoon, at three o'clock. Interment private. KING - Suddenly, on July 29, 1896, at his late residence, No. 1319 Hull street, John L. King. Due notice of the funeral will be given. KLINGMEYER - On July 29,at 7:30 A.M., H. W. Klingmeyer, in the 42d year of his age, beloved husband of Sophia Klingmeyer. The funeral will take place from his late residence, No. 542 West Lee street, this (Friday) afternoon, July 31, at 2:30 o'clock. Service at Saint Paul's German Lutheran Church, corner of Fremont and Saratoga streets, at three o'clock. Interment private. McCOURT - Departed this life on Thursday, July 30, 1896, at 8:15 o'clock P.M., James McCourt, beloved husband of the late Bridget McCourt. Rest in peace. Due notice of funeral will be given. MEREDITH - On July 30, Raymond Cleman, in the 8th month of his age, infant son of George and the late Minnie Meredith. Funeral will take place from No. 1439 William street, on Saturday, August 1, at 2 P.M. MORRIS - On July 29, Fanny, aged 41 years, beloved wife of Isaac Morris. Funeral from her late residence, No. 659 Haw st., this (Friday) morning, July 31, at ten o'clock. O'CONNOR - On July 29, 1896, John, beloved husband of Ann O'Connor, a native of county Mayo, Ireland. May his soul rest in peace. The relatives and friends of the family are respectfully invited to attend the funeral, from his late residence, No. 1112 Haubert street, on Saturday morning, August 1, at 8:30 o'clock, thence to Our Lady of Good Counsel Church, where a Requiem High Mass will be said for the repose of his soul. PRIOR - July 20, in Hanover, Germany, Edgar Prior, aged 14 years and 2 months, son of Mrs. Hennie Prior and the late Edward A. Prior. ROSS - On July 30, 1896, Norman, aged 5 months, beloved son of Thomas and Amelia Ross. Funeral from the parents' residence, No. 1437 Hull street, on Saturday, at 2:30 P.M. SNYDER - On Thursday at 8:10 P.M., Marie Agnes, aged 1 year, infant daughter of Adam and Helena Snyder. Home is sad, O God, how dreary, Lonely, lonesome every spot; Listening for her voice till weary, Weary, for we hear it not. Hard we strove to keep her with us, But love and skill were all in van; We must lay our darling loved one 'Neat the graveyard's sod away. Death's cruel dart has pierced our hearts, And bowed us down with grief; And beneath the silent sod Our darling Marie sleeps. Funeral will take place on Saturday afternoon, at four o'clock, from the residence of her parents, No. 1?23 Ensor street. Relatives and friends are invited to attend. THOMPSON - At Annapolis, on July 30, Agnes Tate Thompson, in the 29th year of her age, beloved wife of James Guy Thompson, and daughter of the late Joseph J. Tate and Mary E. Tate, of Anne Arundel county. Funeral services at St. Anne's P.E. Church on Saturday at 5 P.M. VEITH - On July 29, at her late residence, No. 1529 West Lombard street, Ursula M.,aged 29 years, daughter of the late John and Kate Veith, formerly of Ellicott City, Md. {The rest of this notice is cut off my copy.}

Gary, I appreciate the suggestions. I'll try the church records some time since the grandparents were Presberterians. Also, in NC there were bastardy bonds posted so that the state was protected from supporting children born out of wedlock. Thanks for the help. g.ruppert@att.net wrote: Joe: Although, a child could certainly have been born to a prostitute, I think the chances of a child simply being born out-of-wedlock is a far more likely situation ... of course, you have a few other children born to this single mother, so the situation is complicated. Anyway, as you already discovered, there are no birth registrations in Baltimore City until four years after the event that you want. Your best bet for finding some record of the birth is to locate a church record where the child was baptized. Illegitimate births occur frequently in every church record I have ever seen (although some identify the fact that the mother was not married, many simply don't make any mention of a father). To find a church, you'll need to know Catholic vs. Protestant and then research the churches nearest the address where the mother lived at the time. By the way, as an aside, Baltimore City was not a part of Baltimore County in 1871. The City became an independent entity in 1851 and remains so to this day. I doubt that prostitution was any more legal in 1871 than it is today ... but I'm sure it was practiced. As to special court records for "bastard children" ... I've not heard of that but someone more knowledgeable may have other advice. Good Luck. Gary 27 July 2002 Baltimore http://home.att.net/~g.ruppert > > I understand that birth records are not available before January 1875 for the > City of Baltimore. The person I am researching was born in October 1871 in > Baltimore, Baltimore Co., MD according to her death record and census records > from West Virginia. She was the first of five children born to a single mother > whom I cannot find in the 1870 Maryland census (or any other state). Any > suggestions? An archivist suggested her mother was a prostitute. Was > prostitution legal in Baltimore in the 1870s? Are there court records for > "bastard" children? > > Thanks in advance. > > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > The Baltimore County Genealogical Society web site: > http://www.serve.com/bcgs/bcgs.html > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== The Baltgen-L list focuses on GENEALOGY research for Baltimore, Anne Arundel, Harford, and Howard Cos. MD --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better

I understand that birth records are not available before January 1875 for the City of Baltimore. The person I am researching was born in October 1871 in Baltimore, Baltimore Co., MD according to her death record and census records from West Virginia. She was the first of five children born to a single mother whom I cannot find in the 1870 Maryland census (or any other state). Any suggestions? An archivist suggested her mother was a prostitute. Was prostitution legal in Baltimore in the 1870s? Are there court records for "bastard" children? Thanks in advance. --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better

Shirley, Thanks- This Sarah Bond may be Sarah Cadwallader who married 1725 John Bond? They had a son, Abraham who m.1753 Elizabeth Cadwallader and they had a dau Sarah b.1757 m. John Chew, but all from PA. Barbara Long

Great! I love it! The history of this region is marvelous and it adds to all genealogy to know what was happening at the time they lived.........My Husband descended from the line of Ninian Beall who was a burgess among many other things in the Colony of Maryland. He is credited with Maryland becoming a Colony where religious freedom was guaranteed by the Articles of Remonstrance. He although not a Presbyterian himself, resettled an entire Presbyterian community into the Colony along with their Minister. Putting flesh on the bones of our ancestors is enhanced by knowing their story and the times they lived in, at least it is to me..........RJ ========Original Message======== Subj: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Chew-Ayres Date: 7/27/02 12:34:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: leeg@erols.com (Lee) Reply-to: BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com To: BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com At 11:42 AM 7/26/02 -0600, you wrote: >Yes, the CHEW family was Quaker in its early days in MD. The group with which William AYRES allegedly fought with from MD at the Battle of the Severn was led by William FULLER, a Puritan. Correct or not, the entire group has been termed "Puritan" by historians. Sorry if this was misunderstood as implying that William AYRES was Puritan because he allegedly fought with them. > >See below just a few of the numerous places that the MD Archives calls the group "Puritan," which has been copied in many other publications. > >Archives of MD 156:128b >http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/megafile/msa/speccol/sc2900/sc2908/000001 /000156/html/am156--128b.html > >Archives of MD 112:7 >http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/megafile/msa/speccol/sc2900/sc2908/000001 /000112/html/am112--7.html > >Archives of MD 118:91 >http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/megafile/msa/speccol/sc2900/sc2908/000001 /000118/html/am118--91.html A little history here, the migration of people from Virginia to "Providence" aka Anne Arundel Co MD occured in the era of the English Civil war. Governor Berkley of VA was a loyal supporter of the Crown (King Charles) and certainly did not recognize Cromwell..Berkely was also strong in his beliefgs for the state church (of England). So in general most of the people in VA (lower Norfolk County in particular) who supported Cromwell, were "Puritans" or "Independents" and were among the settlers who came to Anne Arundel Co. ca 1650-1651. One has to realize that among the Puritan leaders, William Durrand, Edward Lloyd and Cornelius Lloyd were fined and persecuted in VA for preacher counter to the church of England and were among the leaders of the settlers that came to Anne Arundle Co. at the invitation of Gov William Stone. As things heated up with Cromwell in England there was fall out in MD with the "puritans" in Anne Arundel Co rebelling against the "rule/ownership" of the Lord Baltimore (a Papist) and Wm Stone.. I think the Battle of the Severn was basically fall out of the English Civil war. It appears from what I have read, that with the influence of Quaker missionaries in MD in the mid 1650s, several of the "puritans" or independents adopted the Quaker beliefs. Of course the "Puritans" in power at the time seemed to be as intolerant of other beliefs and Gov Berkley was intolerant of them... So I would say it would be hard to determine when some of the MD Quaker families became Quakers, it may have been after they arrived in MD and as the reign of Cromwell was in decline or over.. of course within 40 years MD adopted the CoE as the state church..more of less. So at that point (ca. 1690s) it seems people were either CoE, Catholic (particular in Southern MD), or Quakers... Lee ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== The Baltgen-L list focuses on GENEALOGY research for Baltimore, Anne Arundel, Harford, and Howard Cos. 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Etta, Sorry, no Riley's or Van Horn. Shirley