Both places you mentioned are good places to visit i.e. State Archives and Md Hist Soc. Probably depends on where you are staying. It is sometimes hard to get into the archives. They are both closed on Mondays and Tuesdays. Land records, death records, wills etc. can be found at archives. The Historical society has lots of family histories, charts etc. as well as the usual census records and obituary information. -----Original Message----- From: RA Stansbury [mailto:rastansbury@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 10:31 AM To: BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BALTGEN-L] STANSBURY - Baltimore Visit Next week Hello List, I am planning to be in Baltimore next week looking for information on my line of STANSBURY ancestors. I am wondering where I would be best spending my time. I was planning to probably go to the MD Archives to look for land records first. Is that a good idea? Any other suggestions? Also, how to find Baltimore City Directory addresses and Census locations? Is there any map or cross reference to show where street names and or house numbers have changed? And how to find locations that are in census records. Any suggestions of visiting the MD Historical Society, Baltimore County Historical Society, Dundalk - Patapsco Neck Historical Society? I believe my STANSBURY's lived both in Baltimore City and in the Dundalk area. Thanks, Robert Stansbury Birmingham, AL ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== Please do not sent attachments on any E mails to the list.
Hello List, I am planning to be in Baltimore next week looking for information on my line of STANSBURY ancestors. I am wondering where I would be best spending my time. I was planning to probably go to the MD Archives to look for land records first. Is that a good idea? Any other suggestions? Also, how to find Baltimore City Directory addresses and Census locations? Is there any map or cross reference to show where street names and or house numbers have changed? And how to find locations that are in census records. Any suggestions of visiting the MD Historical Society, Baltimore County Historical Society, Dundalk - Patapsco Neck Historical Society? I believe my STANSBURY's lived both in Baltimore City and in the Dundalk area. Thanks, Robert Stansbury Birmingham, AL
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FYI: For those kin to the Manahan's of Baltimore County this book might interest you. I am not affiliated with the seller, any questions can be asked through the page below. The book is at: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1774314235 Spec's copied from the page are: Title: The Manahan Family 1750-1950, And Allied Families Author: John Eacott Manahan, Ph. D., Radford, Va. Copyright: 1952 Published by: Self Published? Pages: 32 Condition:Very good, minor shelf wear. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "SOME" NAMES IN THIS BOOK ARE: Buhrman , Dr. Hiram b. 1822 Buhrman , Elsie of Tiffin, Ohio Buhrman , Rev. Alfred b. 1826 Buhrman , Sida H. of Frederick Co., Md. Buhrman , Silas of Frederick Co., Md. Buhrman , Ted of Garfield, Frederick Co., Md. Buhrman , Upton b. 1824 Manahan , Aaron of Carroll Co., Md. Manahan , Abraham of Baltimore Co., Md. Manahan , Ada of Piqua, Ohio, buried in Portsmouth, Oh. Manahan , Alfred W. b. 1835 Manahan , Catharine of Frederick & Carroll Co., Md. Manahan , Charles F. buried in Westminster, Md. Manahan , Cyrus Benton b. 1844 Manahan , Daniel I. of Lantz, Md. Manahan , David of Baltimore Co., Md. Manahan , Dennis Calvin of Emmitsburg, Md. Manahan , Ephraim b. 1841 Manahan , Eurouth Manahan , Flora Manahan , Francis McClellan b. Westminster, Md., moved to Adams Co., Pa., Settled in Dixon, IL. Manahan , Francis Thomas d. Adams Co., Pa. b. near Warfieldsburg, Carroll Co., Md. Manahan , George Washington moved from Pa., moved to Miami Co., Ohio, then to Dayton, Ohio Manahan , George Willis Myers Frederick Co., Md. Manahan , Harry Raymond b. 1892 Manahan , Helen Manahan , Henry Alvin lived in Michigan Manahan , Henry b. 1815 Manahan , James , b. Baltimore Co., Md. In 1783 Manahan , James moved to Ohio with family Manahan , James of Baltimore Co., Md. Manahan , James of Frederick & Carroll Co., Md. Manahan , Jane of Baltimore Co., Md. Manahan , John b. 1821 in Fredericks Co., Md., moved to Adams Co., Penn. Manahan , John b. Baltimore Co., Md. In 1774 Manahan , John Eacott b. 1919 Manahan , John H. of Frederick & Carroll Co., Md. Manahan , John Levi b. 1887 Manahan , John Winfield b. 1852 moved to Arrowsmith, IL. Manahan , John Winfield b. 1887 Manahan , Jonas buried in Frederick Co., Md. Manahan , Jonas of Baltimore Co., Md. Manahan , Joseph of San FranciscoCA. And Los Angeles, CA. Manahan , Julia of Baltimore Co., Md. Manahan , Katherine b. Warfieldsburg, Md. Manahan , Levi of Carroll Co., Md. Manahan , Louella May b. Westminster, Md. Manahan , Michael of Baltimore Co., Md. Manahan , Peter of Frederick & Carroll Co., Md. Manahan , Rachael of Baltimore Co., Md. Manahan , Samuel Ernest of Gettysburg, Pa. Manahan , Samuel of Bucyrus, Ohio Manahan , Sarah of Baltimore Co., Md. Manahan , Thomas ll of Frederick Co., Md. Manahan , Thomas lll of Frederick & Carroll Co., Md. Manahan , Thomas of Baltimore Co., Md. Manahan , Warren of Los Angeles, CA. Manahan , William Henry b. 1857 in Adams Co., Pa., lived in Belle Center, Ohio, Logan Co. Manahan , William Leonard b. 1890 AND MANY MORE!!!... Hope it helps, Jamie
Mae, Probably a married woman shouldn't go either <g>. A note regarding the rail tracks: Years ago, the United Railway (later the Baltimore Transit Company) would run a funeral car into certain cemeteries. One of the was Loudon Park as I recall. My great-grandmother was a charwoman working for United, and was responsible for keeping the funeral car bright and shinny. Roy Schmidt >>> tmtalbott@juno.com 10/02/02 02:34PM >>> All and all, these messages make me think that a single woman shouldn't go to Loudon Park Cemetery. What a pity. Doesn't the Funeral Home realize that people might stop using their services if they don't treat people better? Mae Mae Talbott Hagerstown, MD tmtalbott@juno.com On Tue, 1 Oct 2002 07:13:24 EDT Seeker97@aol.com writes: > In a message dated 9/30/2002 11:49:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > kurm@i-carroll.net writes: > > << As you go in the gates, > the funeral home is on your right and the office is just behind the > funeral > home, > up an incline and on the right hand side. They have a chapel there > also. >> > > I was just there last week and the office is now located in the > Funeral Home. > Loudon is one of those places that has a split personality, > sometimes they > are very nice and helpful and others they are only helpful if you > pay them. I > have heard some ridiculous amounts that they have charged people for > > information. > > On my visit last week, I was given a location and a couple of maps > and sent > on my way. After twenty minutes of trying to orient the map and > counting rows > and plots, I finally found a few in ground plot number markers and > was able > to pin down the plot to within one. Only to discover that there were > no > markers or headstones on the lot. A fact that most cemeteries will > share with > you immediately to prevent you wondering around aimlessly. I was in > an older > section of the cemetery within thirty yards of the railroad tracks > which were > not fenced off. All in all, a rather interesting experience. > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > If you are interested in discussing the culture and heritage of the > Baltimore Area (including remeberances) please subscribe to: > MD-BALTO-CUL-L by sending an E mail to > MD-BALTO-CUL-L-Request@rootsweb.com > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== Check Out the USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Baltimore Co. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim
Nancy All of my family is buried in Loudon Park. The "older" germans are buried in the old section which is next to the Frederick Road side. I have grgrgrandparents buried in this older section. But you do have to be very careful there. The Frederick Road gates are chained shut and you have to go in on the Wilkens Avenue side and drive over to the Frederick Road side. The vandals get in regardless. Just be careful. Evelyn ----- Original Message ----- From: Nancy R. <nancyr@ntin.net> To: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] loudon park > Maria, > > Thanks to you and all the others for the good information. I'm > looking for the Garman family burial places in Loudon Park. > > Nancy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Captain Mark Rooney, Maria Rooney" <mmrooney@erols.com> > > Nancy, I have had great success when I approached Loudon Park some > years > > ago. I found my relatives Bowers down by the train tracks in the old > > area. The head stone was damaged when I arrived so I reported it to > the > > office and the next time I visited (with the month) it was fixed.I > was > > also told that a geneologist is available to help on Saturdays. I do > not > > know if this currently offered. I go often to place flowers and have > had > > no incident, but it is not a very safe place in town. I remember > that > > there were books and c/d rom's that do have the listings. In fact I > > think Tim R. has them or access to them. He is on vacation . Post > this > > again when he comes back. The other places that you can contact is > Md. > > Historical Society, the central branch of the Enoch Pratt Free > Library > > located on Catherdarl St. and Geneology Publishers ( I think they > are > > located on Redwood St. in downtown Baltimore). Good Luck. What > names > > are you looking for? When I go again I can try to look around my > area > > for the name. Slainte, Maria Rooney > > > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > Check Out the USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Baltimore Co. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim > >
I was treated very well there. Go early in the morning and remember that a smile and patience go a long way.
All and all, these messages make me think that a single woman shouldn't go to Loudon Park Cemetery. What a pity. Doesn't the Funeral Home realize that people might stop using their services if they don't treat people better? Mae Mae Talbott Hagerstown, MD tmtalbott@juno.com On Tue, 1 Oct 2002 07:13:24 EDT Seeker97@aol.com writes: > In a message dated 9/30/2002 11:49:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > kurm@i-carroll.net writes: > > << As you go in the gates, > the funeral home is on your right and the office is just behind the > funeral > home, > up an incline and on the right hand side. They have a chapel there > also. >> > > I was just there last week and the office is now located in the > Funeral Home. > Loudon is one of those places that has a split personality, > sometimes they > are very nice and helpful and others they are only helpful if you > pay them. I > have heard some ridiculous amounts that they have charged people for > > information. > > On my visit last week, I was given a location and a couple of maps > and sent > on my way. After twenty minutes of trying to orient the map and > counting rows > and plots, I finally found a few in ground plot number markers and > was able > to pin down the plot to within one. Only to discover that there were > no > markers or headstones on the lot. A fact that most cemeteries will > share with > you immediately to prevent you wondering around aimlessly. I was in > an older > section of the cemetery within thirty yards of the railroad tracks > which were > not fenced off. All in all, a rather interesting experience. > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > If you are interested in discussing the culture and heritage of the > Baltimore Area (including remeberances) please subscribe to: > MD-BALTO-CUL-L by sending an E mail to > MD-BALTO-CUL-L-Request@rootsweb.com > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.
Maria, Thanks to you and all the others for the good information. I'm looking for the Garman family burial places in Loudon Park. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Captain Mark Rooney, Maria Rooney" <mmrooney@erols.com> > Nancy, I have had great success when I approached Loudon Park some years > ago. I found my relatives Bowers down by the train tracks in the old > area. The head stone was damaged when I arrived so I reported it to the > office and the next time I visited (with the month) it was fixed.I was > also told that a geneologist is available to help on Saturdays. I do not > know if this currently offered. I go often to place flowers and have had > no incident, but it is not a very safe place in town. I remember that > there were books and c/d rom's that do have the listings. In fact I > think Tim R. has them or access to them. He is on vacation . Post this > again when he comes back. The other places that you can contact is Md. > Historical Society, the central branch of the Enoch Pratt Free Library > located on Catherdarl St. and Geneology Publishers ( I think they are > located on Redwood St. in downtown Baltimore). Good Luck. What names > are you looking for? When I go again I can try to look around my area > for the name. Slainte, Maria Rooney
Family History Library...or go to www.familysearch.org and click on catalog. The Baltimore Family History Centers have the Loudon Cemetery films...both Stemmers Run Road and St. John's Lane.
Nancy check out - familysearch.org. The family history Library is mantained by the Mormon church in Salt Lake City. They also have smaller branch libraries in most areas of the country. You can see what records are available in the library catalog on line. I believe you can also find their closest local library to your home. Then you go to your closest local facility and for a very small fee (about $3) you can order the film or micro fiche in and you have it for 3 months to use at the local branch library. They have more records available then most of the historical societies. Nancy Nancy
In a message dated 10/1/02 5:26:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, nancyr@ntin.net writes: <<And where might the Family History Library be? Nancy>> Nancy, To find the closest Family History Center near you check this website: (the centers are are branch facilities of the Family History Library in Salt Lake City) http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp Good luck with your research. Dee http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chesapeake/
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And where might the Family History Library be? Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: <NLJdork@aol.com> > <PRE>Family History Library >
Thank you for the info on the entrance. It helps. Shirley
FHL ???? Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: <MJGARD2505@cs.com> > Have you checked the FHL catalog? The Loudon Park records are on mictofilm, > along with New Cathedral records and ther was a map of the cemetery on the > film I used. > > Mary Jean
Have you checked the FHL catalog? The Loudon Park records are on mictofilm, along with New Cathedral records and ther was a map of the cemetery on the film I used. Mary Jean
The Frederick Road entrance to Loudon Park is not used....you must go over to the Wilkins Avenue entrance........and then work you way thru to the old area....... ========Original Message======== Subj: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Loudon Park Cemetery Date: 9/30/02 6:25:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: SFL36@aol.com Reply-to: BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com To: BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com Hi, I was at Loudon Park the other day. The gates are chained and no one was allowed in. I do not know what is going on. Call before you go. Shirley ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== The Baltgen-L list focuses on GENEALOGY research for Baltimore, Anne Arundel, Harford, and Howard Cos. MD ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <BALTGEN-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-xh03.mx.aol.com (rly-xh03.mail.aol.com [172.20.115.232]) by air-xh02.mail.aol.com (v89.10) with ESMTP id MAILINXH23-0930182524; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 18:25:24 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [207.40.200.41]) by rly-xh03.mx.aol.com (v89.10) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXH310-0930182449; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 18:24:49 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.4/8.12.4) id g8UMOPBu027564; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 16:24:25 -0600 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 16:24:25 -0600 X-Original-Sender: SFL36@aol.com Mon Sep 30 16:24:25 2002 From: SFL36@aol.com Message-ID: <83.2188f900.2aca2916@aol.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 18:24:22 EDT Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Loudon Park Cemetery Old-To: BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 121 Resent-Message-ID: <NfulI.A.buG.Z8Mm9@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/14144 X-Loop: BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: BALTGEN-L-request@rootsweb.com
In a message dated 9/30/2002 11:49:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kurm@i-carroll.net writes: << As you go in the gates, the funeral home is on your right and the office is just behind the funeral home, up an incline and on the right hand side. They have a chapel there also. >> I was just there last week and the office is now located in the Funeral Home. Loudon is one of those places that has a split personality, sometimes they are very nice and helpful and others they are only helpful if you pay them. I have heard some ridiculous amounts that they have charged people for information. On my visit last week, I was given a location and a couple of maps and sent on my way. After twenty minutes of trying to orient the map and counting rows and plots, I finally found a few in ground plot number markers and was able to pin down the plot to within one. Only to discover that there were no markers or headstones on the lot. A fact that most cemeteries will share with you immediately to prevent you wondering around aimlessly. I was in an older section of the cemetery within thirty yards of the railroad tracks which were not fenced off. All in all, a rather interesting experience.
Try the LDS (Mormon) Church who have the burial index for Loudon Park Cemetery. The church at St. John's Lane in Ellicott City Maryland keep the films there. Rick