Robin, In 1850 Ward 9 was the area bounded by Baltimore St. on the north, the Jones Falls on the east, the City Limits to Pratt St. on the south, and Charles St. on the west. The ward boundaries were changed in 1860, but I'm not certain that the changes were effective for the 1860 Census. If not, the 1850 Ward configuration continued In 1860 Ward 9, changed to the area bounded by Franklin St. on the north, Jones Falls on the east, Pratt St. on the south, and Charles St. on the west. (Not too much of a change). The next change in the Ward map did not occur until 1882, so for 1870 and 1880 use the 1960 configuration. Norm In a message dated 10/20/2002 11:46:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, robinkaspar@attbi.com writes: > Is there anyway to find out what ward(s) the downtown Baltimore area was > part of in 1860, 1870 and 1880? I have found my ancestor in Ward 9 in 1850 > but didn't know if that ward held true for the following census years. > > Robin

Robin I ordered an 1880 ward map from the library of Congress. If you get me a street I will try and pinpoint the ward. Sue Baldwin > -----Original Message----- > From: Robin Kaspar [mailto:robinkaspar@attbi.com] > Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 11:46 AM > To: BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BALTGEN-L] Baltimore Census Wards > > > Is there anyway to find out what ward(s) the downtown > Baltimore area was part of in 1860, 1870 and 1880? I have > found my ancestor in Ward 9 in 1850 but didn't know if that > ward held true for the following census years. > > Robin >

Is there anyway to find out what ward(s) the downtown Baltimore area was part of in 1860, 1870 and 1880? I have found my ancestor in Ward 9 in 1850 but didn't know if that ward held true for the following census years. Robin

Can anyone tell me what nationality Sraitle might be? I found it to be the name of my husband's 3rd. g.grandmother. Thanks for any help. Ruth Delaware

Thank You Shirley........ Tim **** ----- Original Message ----- From: <SFL36@aol.com> To: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Re: Brashears/Mt. Olivet Cemetery > Tim, > I know you have Mt. Olivet's Books. I just wanted you to know that > all their > records, lot books, etc have been moved to Huber & Son, Menlo Drive, > Westminster > Maryland. > > Shirley > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > Check Out the USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Baltimore Co. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim > >

Sue, Mt.Olivet is about a mile or 2 from my house, as I live one block off Frederick Rd. in Catonsville. The road turns to street when you cross into Baltimore City. And you know, I passed by Mt. Olivet Cemetery for years, not even realizing it was there, as it has these high stone walls going down Frederick Ave. I didn't pay attention until I got into genealogy, and purchased the 3 books on that cemetery. Tim **** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Whittington" <Susan_Whittington@msn.com> To: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 8:44 AM Subject: [BALTGEN-L] Baldwin Listings at Mt. Olivet > Sorry Tim, > I didn't realize there were so many. I wonder who all those folks are? Where is Mt. Olivet cemetery located? I will just have to make a trip up there sometime. I for one, have a huge BALDWIN family. Although they started in Prince Georges County, many now live north of Baltimore. > Thanks for looking. > Sue > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > The Baltgen-L list focuses on GENEALOGY research for > Baltimore, Anne Arundel, Harford, and Howard Cos. MD > >

Many thanks!! Here are the Baldwin burials in Mt Carmel Cem in Baltimore....

These are the Brashears buried in Mt Carmel Cem. Hope this is helpful. 7 Aug 1914 Gustav N Brashears MD 10m22d 36 N Kenwood Ave u #057-D 7 Oct 1918 Frances L Brashears 30y8m5d Colgate Balto Co #057-D 7 Nov 1918 Harry Brashears MD 38y 2000 Eastern Ave #057-D 26 Nov 1918 Joseph N Brashears MD 1m25d 1915 N Collington Ave u #057-D

Here are the Baldwin burials in Mt Carmel Cem in Baltimore. Hope this will help. 22 Dec 1911 David Baldwin 54y4m18d Highlandtown m #119-A 1927 Nov 11 Chas Baldwin 40y At Sea #054-B 27 Dec 1905 James H Baldwin 43y Balto County m #051-BB 18 Jun 1913 Inf of Nelson Baldwin City 5h 641 W Lexington St u #057 -I Jun 8, 1903 John T Baldwin MD 60y 2023 Fairmount Av m #190-L rem to Loudon Pk 10 May 1916 Nov 2, 1892 Thomas Baldwin MD 32y #150-N rem fr Greenmount Cem Aug 6, 1879 Chas F Baldwin MD 2y 2m 51 Burk St u #276-V Oct 4, 1880 Henry Baldwin MD 14m 11d 146 S Caroline St u #276-V Mar 26, 1892 Irene Baldwin MD 1y 3m 2208 Eastern Av u #276-V May 28, 1882 Mary Thomas Baldwin MD 11m 146 S Caroline St u #276-V 11 Jan 1906 Henry S Baldwin Balto Co 59y2m Johns Hopkin Hosp m #276-V 4 Feb 1914 Rosanna Baldwin MD 57y5m1d 422 N Chapel #276-V ****

Could I have a lookup for Amelia Momberger Kramme, who is buried in Cedar Hill Cemetery? I need her parents. elaine summerhill Searching for Engle, Geldmacher, Kramme, Malar, Mesko, Momberger, Struhar, and Summerhill (among others)

Email Enoch Pratt "ask a librarian" for obituaries. -----Original Message----- From: Robin Kaspar [mailto:robinkaspar@attbi.com] Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 6:23 PM To: BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BALTGEN-L] Baltimore City obits 1875-1877 Are obituaries available in the Baltimore Sun from 1875 and 1877? I have the dates of death, so an index should not be necessary, although it looks like O'Neill has these years covered. Who would have these papers on microfilm? Robin ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== The Maryland Genealogical Society: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdsgs

Sorry Tim, I didn't realize there were so many. I wonder who all those folks are? Where is Mt. Olivet cemetery located? I will just have to make a trip up there sometime. I for one, have a huge BALDWIN family. Although they started in Prince Georges County, many now live north of Baltimore. Thanks for looking. Sue

Tim, I know you have Mt. Olivet's Books. I just wanted you to know that all their records, lot books, etc have been moved to Huber & Son, Menlo Drive, Westminster Maryland. Shirley

Nope, I didn't, sorry Tim didn't realize there were so many buried there. Had NO intention of making so much work for you ;-) Don't recognize any of those names, I'm looking for a George E.D. Baldwin... much thanks for the list tho. Sue > -----Original Message----- > From: timothy robinson [mailto:trobinson42@comcast.net] > Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 9:28 PM > To: BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Baldwin Listings > > > Good Lord, you people know how many BALDWINS are listed at > Mt. Olivet?...Book 1= 14; book 2= 3, & book 3= 7...... > FANNIE M.; FRANCIS; FREDERICK; GEO.S; JNO. F.; > MAGGIE; MARGARET R.; MARGARET RETTA; R.M.; > RACHEL M.; ROBERT D.; THOS. M.; & THOS. P.; Wm. H., > are in book 1. > > C.M.; ROBERT; & RUBY V. in book 2. > > CATHERINE A.; EARLE E.; JAMES; MARJORIE M.; ROBERT R.; > ROSE; & WILBUR F. are in book 3. > > Pick out who you want. > Tim > **** > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Whittington" <Susan_Whittington@msn.com> > To: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 7:55 PM > Subject: [BALTGEN-L] Baldwin > > > > > > Tim, > > When you get a chance, can you look for BALDWIN in the Mt. Olivet > > Cemetery > books. Much appreciated. > > Sue > > > > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > > The Maryland Genealogical Society: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdsgs > > > > > > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > If you are interested in discussing the culture and heritage > of the Baltimore Area (including remeberances) please > subscribe to: MD-BALTO-CUL-L by sending an E mail to > MD-BALTO-CUL-L-Request@rootsweb.com > >

Good Lord, you people know how many BALDWINS are listed at Mt. Olivet?...Book 1= 14; book 2= 3, & book 3= 7...... FANNIE M.; FRANCIS; FREDERICK; GEO.S; JNO. F.; MAGGIE; MARGARET R.; MARGARET RETTA; R.M.; RACHEL M.; ROBERT D.; THOS. M.; & THOS. P.; Wm. H., are in book 1. C.M.; ROBERT; & RUBY V. in book 2. CATHERINE A.; EARLE E.; JAMES; MARJORIE M.; ROBERT R.; ROSE; & WILBUR F. are in book 3. Pick out who you want. Tim **** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Whittington" <Susan_Whittington@msn.com> To: <BALTGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 7:55 PM Subject: [BALTGEN-L] Baldwin > > Tim, > When you get a chance, can you look for BALDWIN in the Mt. Olivet Cemetery books. Much appreciated. > Sue > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > The Maryland Genealogical Society: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdsgs > >

Robin, Here is what you are looking for....I hope ! **Mt. Olivet Cemetery** 2930 Frederick Ave. Baltimore, Maryland 21229 ( as of 1996, over 36,000 burials on 51 acres, which is owned by the "Lovely Lane United Methodist Church") **Lot # 35 - M; owned by JNO B. BRASHEARS & LEWIS J. BEACHAMP. (As printed on page) Remains, July 27, 1858; REBECCA BRASHEARS, Oct. 30, 1861; Florence V. Clifford, Nov. 8, 1875; (an entry lined out); SUSANNAH BRASHEARS, Apr. 6, 1875; JESSIE BRASHEARS, Feb. 18, 1885; JOHN B. BRASHEARS, Dec. 5, 1885; removed from Cathedral, Oct. 5, 1887; EDMOND BRASHEARS, Apr. 30, 1897; Virginia E. Seiler, (no date); Reverend Wm. BRASHEARS, Apr. 28, 1899; Zorah McCoy, Feb. 14, 1907; Wm. F. BRASHEARS, Apr. 2, 1907; Amelia M. Dryden, Sept. 30, 1865; Julie A. Zimmerman, Jan. 12, 1867; Ellen Johnson, July 13, 1869; Wm. S. Beauchamp, Oct. 30, 1878; Mable L. Beauchamp, June 30, 1879; (possible a second person of same name, no death date buried in this lot); Wm. (H) Beauchamp, Sept. 28, 1878 ***************************** Good Luck, Tim **** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Kaspar" <robinkaspar@attbi.com> To: <trobinson42@comcast.net> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 4:53 PM Subject: Brashears/Mt. Olivet Cemetery > Well Tim, let's give it a try. Where is/was Mt. Olivet Cemetery? Is it > public or connected with a church? > > I just got some info that John and Susanna died in 1877 and 1875 > respectively. Are they in there? I guess I would like to have any info on > Brashears families. > > Robin > >

I second that......Tim would you be so kind as to post what you find? Sue Baldwin > Subject: [BALTGEN-L] Baldwin > > > > Tim, > When you get a chance, can you look for BALDWIN in the Mt. > Olivet Cemetery books. Much appreciated. Sue > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > The Maryland Genealogical Society: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdsgs > >

Tim, When you get a chance, can you look for BALDWIN in the Mt. Olivet Cemetery books. Much appreciated. Sue

Friday, October 18, 2002, 6:22:55 PM, you wrote: RK> Are obituaries available in the Baltimore Sun from 1875 and 1877? I have the RK> dates of death, so an index should not be necessary, although it looks like RK> O'Neill has these years covered. Who would have these papers on microfilm? The Enoch Pratt Library does. http://www.epfl.net/index.html Researching: APPEL, BOROWSKI, CERNOHORSKY, DEMBOWCZYK, HAAS, PIETROWIAK, ZARAS BAKER, CHENOWETH, FLEISCHMAN, GERHMAN, GENSLER, HASENEI, HESSLER, OESTERLEIN, WAGNER

Are obituaries available in the Baltimore Sun from 1875 and 1877? I have the dates of death, so an index should not be necessary, although it looks like O'Neill has these years covered. Who would have these papers on microfilm? Robin