In a message dated 12/27/2005 4:01:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, NORM writes: > All resources return "error on > page." Click on HELP and I get "error on page." You need to be more that > computer literate to use those databases. If there is a key to using this > that > can be expressed in 20 words or less, I'd appreciate knowing what it is. Try using internet explorer to go to this site rather than your internet providers browser. I had the same problem and that solved it. Take care, Debbie

Thanks for offering to help. If a person's browser blocks pop-ups, they get an error on page message. Norm In a message dated 12/26/2005 7:02:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Norm I just tried the site and it worked fine for me. Unfortunately the library itself is closed. I did a search on the Census and one on the Newspaper Elite. The newpaper search was by all 400+ papers as well as by specific city. What kind of search are you trying? Julia

Norm I just tried the site and it worked fine for me. Unfortunately the library itself is closed. I did a search on the Census and one on the Newspaper Elite. The newpaper search was by all 400+ papers as well as by specific city. What kind of search are you trying? Julia

I gotta tell ya folks. There may be a lot of information there but I can't begin to decipher how to go about using it. All resources return "error on page." Click on HELP and I get "error on page." You need to be more that computer literate to use those databases. If there is a key to using this that can be expressed in 20 words or less, I'd appreciate knowing what it is. Norm

In a message dated 12/26/2005 11:12:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: The Heritage Quest newspaper which include the New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times and Chicago Tribune is now being added to with the Boston Herald and Atlanta Constitution. The first four have about 1880 through 1980 give or take a few years and the latter two will have about the same years when they are finished. There was talk that they may do the Baltimore Sun but I have not heard on the outcome of that meeting. Thanks for the input. Godfrey doesn't carry any newspapers in which I am interested.

You probably have a lot of duplication between genealogy.com and ancestry.com. Since Ancestry parent company bought genealogy.com they are basically combining the two databases except for the family tree info. I use to have both but dropped genealogy.com a year ago because it was almost all available on Ancestry. The only exception was the Hearitage Quest census. That however I get with Godfrey and at $35 dollars it SO MUCH cheaper. I don't know if you have renewed lately with Ancestry but they are going to a 2 tier system, US only for a little less that $200 and Everything for less than $300 a year. The newspaper archives are different even though Ancestry has some of the newspapers in the Newspaper Elite they do not have all of them. For example on the Lima Oh papers I get 13 hits for a search on Ancestry but on Godfrey I get 37 hits. That is the same 13 I get on Acestry plus 24 more and the issues are not available on Ancestry when you do a date search. The Heritage Quest newspaper which include the New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times and Chicago Tribune is now being added to with the Boston Herald and Atlanta Constitution. The first four have about 1880 through 1980 give or take a few years and the latter two will have about the same years when they are finished. There was talk that they may do the Baltimore Sun but I have not heard on the outcome of that meeting. Julia Coldren-Walker

Godfrey is wonderful! The search engine is much better :-). More than that neither of the other two have so many years of the Washington Post. Also there is their Early newspaper collections. Alone they are worth the price. http://www.godfrey.org/online_resources.htm Above is the link for what they offer on line and at the bottom they tell the years for the main newspapers. These aren't listed on the resource page...... Maryland American Eagle (1 issues) American Farmer (92 issues) Apollo (61 issues) Baltimore Daily Intelligencer (313 issues) Baltimore Evening Post (156 issues) Baltimore Patriot (12338 issues) Baltimore Price-Current (777 issues) Baltimore Recorder (1 issues) Bartgis's Maryland Gazette and Frederick-town Weekly Advertiser (77 issues) Bartgis's Marylandische Zeitung (1 issues) Centinel of Freedom (1 issues) Cumberland Gazette (1 issues) Cumberland Impartialist (1 issues) Democratic Republican (92 issues) Easton Gazette and Eastern Shore Intelligencer (109 issues) Federal Gazette (2331 issues) Federal Intelligencer (507 issues) Federal Republican (810 issues) Freiheitsbothe (1 issues) General Staatsbothe (1 issues) Hagers-town Gazette (213 issues) Hornet (272 issues) Maryland Chronicle, or Univeral Advertiser (114 issues) Maryland Herald (303 issues) Maryland Journal (104 issues) Mechanic's Gazette; and Merchants Daily Advertiser (110 issues) Palladium of Freedom (1 issues) Republican (455 issues) Republican Star (1351 issues) True American (1 issues) Washington Spy (221 issues) Baltimore Daily Intelligencer Issues: 313 Dates: 10/28/1793 - 10/29/1794 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Variant Titles a.. None 1790 - 1799 (313 issues) Above is one of papers coverage years..They are adding all the time to these papers. They plan to have from 1790-1799, right now they the dates they show for 1793 and 1794. For DC District of Columbia Centinel of Liberty (279 issues) City of Washington Gazette (1235 issues) Courier (35 issues) Daily National Intelligencer (2127 issues) Federal Republican (538 issues) Independent American (205 issues) Metropolitan (144 issues) Monitor (199 issues) National Intelligencer (1873 issues) National Messenger (453 issues) Olio (59 issues) Senator (21 issues) Spirit of 'Seventy-Six (107 issues) Washington City Weekly Gazette (92 issues) Washington Expositor (57 issues) Washington Federalist (1123 issues) Here are the states with early newspapers They give how many issues from each year they offer -this is from all the states listed. margy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 9:15 AM Subject: [BALTGEN-L] Godfrey Library >I have subscriptions to ancestry and genealogy.com. Is there anything the > Godfrey Library has that I cannot get with ancestry and genealogy.com? > Thanks a lot. > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > The Maryland Genealogical Society web site is: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdsgs > >

One thing off the top of my head is newspapers were far easier and the search ability was far superior through Godfrey. It seems easier looking for things in Godfrey also. I think the $35. per year for Godfrey is far better than the high cost of the others although I do use all 3. Hope that helps. Sally -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 9:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [BALTGEN-L] Godfrey Library I have subscriptions to ancestry and genealogy.com. Is there anything the Godfrey Library has that I cannot get with ancestry and genealogy.com? Thanks a lot. ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== The Maryland Genealogical Society web site is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdsgs

I have subscriptions to ancestry and genealogy.com. Is there anything the Godfrey Library has that I cannot get with ancestry and genealogy.com? Thanks a lot.

Hello All! I got this from the NYC list and thought it might help some of you looking for German ancestors. http://germanmapguide.com/<http://germanmapguide.com/> The person who posted it said: It's very helpful if all you can decipher is part of the town's name. Even if all you can decipher is a few letters in the middle of the name, you can find leads here. HTH, Mona (if the link above gets "doubled" just use the first half)

Kathy, Naturalizations filed in Federal courts are kept by the NARA regions. If the naturalization took place in Federal court in Maryland (as well as DE, PA, VA, or WV)you can email the NARA Mid-atlantic Region at [email protected] At a minimum you should tell them the name of the person, place of residence at the time of naturalization, and approximate date of immigration or naturalization. For naturalizations dated after 9/26/1906 you may also want to include the name of the spouse and children, date of birth, and place of origin (particularly for common names). There is no required form. They will search for free and there is a $10 fee for copies up to 20 pages. Rebecca >Rebecca- what address did you use to contact the NARA office? Is there a form #? >Thanks so much, >Kathy [email protected]

Rebecca- what address did you use to contact the NARA office? Is there a form #? Thanks so much, Kathy [email protected] > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > re: Naturalization Record > From: > "Rebecca C. Warlow" <[email protected]> > Date: > Mon, 05 Dec 2005 12:58:45 -0500 > To: > [email protected] > > >Pat, > >The NARA office will search their records for free and charge you just $10 for a copy (although given how little info you might get it may not even be worth the $10.) > >Rebecca >

Off list, I have sent you a JPEG photo of my 2nd Great Uncle's Baltimore Naturalization record in 1852. I hope it helps you in your decision. Best of luck in your research, Peggy in Utah In a message dated 12/4/2005 5:59:27 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: People generally went to the nearest court house to apply. I have seen some of the records on microfilm at the State Archives. Isabelle On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > From: [email protected] > Date: December 1, 2005 4:42:28 PM EST > To: [email protected] > Subject: Naturalization Record > > > Where might I find a naturalization record of a person from Scotland > who > lived in Baltimore and became a citizen by 1850? > Thanks a lot. > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== This list is for Genealogical Only, Join us at [email protected] for discussions on culture and heritage in the Baltimore area

In a message dated 12/5/2005 12:59:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: The NARA office will search their records for free and charge you just $10 for a copy (although given how little info you might get it may not even be worth the $10.) Rebecca Thank you. I'll bet that's what the professional genealogist was going to do and he wanted $100 up front.

Pat, The NARA office will search their records for free and charge you just $10 for a copy (although given how little info you might get it may not even be worth the $10.) Rebecca

People generally went to the nearest court house to apply. I have seen some of the records on microfilm at the State Archives. Isabelle On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > From: [email protected] > Date: December 1, 2005 4:42:28 PM EST > To: [email protected] > Subject: Naturalization Record > > > Where might I find a naturalization record of a person from Scotland > who > lived in Baltimore and became a citizen by 1850? > Thanks a lot. > >

----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] GRIFFITH FAMILY, BALTIMORE Middle initials can be unreliable. > Boy, I'll say! I have a newspaper from Butte, MT, that has three different death announcements (one long obit, one lodge announcement, and one short death notice) for my John T. Reese. In the same day's paper, his initial is T., L., and F.! Of course, a few years later, his wife's MT death cert gives her name as "John Reese"--not Mrs. even. It does list her as female and widow, however! I had a lot of fun trying to pry that one from MT! Both these folks were from Baltimore and are buried there. Just goes to prove Norm's point! Although, often with common names, middle initials are all we have to go on, we have to both be careful and open to other possibilities. Good luck! Mona

In a message dated 12/2/2005 12:31:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Try the Maryland State Archives for naturalizations filed in local courts and the NARA Mid-Atlantic Region ([email protected]) for those filed in Federal court in Baltimore. Those filed in Maryland Federal court around 1850 will not have any more information than you already have. All the court maintained was a register with name, country of origin, and date of naturalization. Thank you for sharing. A genealogist wants $100 to find the record for me but if it won't tell me something I don't already know, I'll keep the money in my wallet.

Hard to say. I have no previous knowledge, but there is a website for Civil War information. It shows several John Griffiths from Maryland but none of them have the initial, "T." Middle initials can be unreliable. The website is: _http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/_ (http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/) There may be others. Norm In a message dated 12/2/2005 2:01:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: DEAR NORM, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR HELP AS I FEEL THIS IS CORRECT. WOULD YOU KNOW IF JOHN T EVER SERVED IN THE CIVIL WAR? THANKS AGAIN AND I'LL GET BACK TO YOU SOON. SINCERELY & THANKS, JARRET T. GRIFFITH

DEAR NORM, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR HELP AS I FEEL THIS IS CORRECT. WOULD YOU KNOW IF JOHN T EVER SERVED IN THE CIVIL WAR? THANKS AGAIN AND I'LL GET BACK TO YOU SOON. SINCERELY & THANKS, JARRET T. GRIFFITH