Hello! I MAY have a break in a brickwall! I need to know which church Rev. Dr. George C. M. Roberts was associated with in Feb. 1848. I assume it was a Methodist church, as he is listed as performing a marriage in "Methodist Records of Baltimore City, Maryland, Vol 3 1840-1850 (East City Station)", by Henry C. Peden. I only have a few xeroxed pages of the book (courtesy of the Enoch Pratt Library), so if the book tells which church the various ministers were at, I don't have that info. Also, if anyone knows where to find the records of this church, I would greatly appreciate that bit of info, too! Thanks! Mona

Have many records for Greenmount Cemetery been transcribed that anyone knows of? I am looking for T[h]eresa Spence who died April, 1875 and [per her death certif.]was buried there. I am hoping to find her buried w/ other family members, especially her unknown husband who was evidently deceased before 1850. Has anyone dealt w/ Greenmount insofar as requesting this type of info? Thanks for any advice, ...Kim Danielsen

Mildred, Do you have any Voelker's from the McKeesport, PA area? Roy Schmidt -----Original Message----- From: Mildred & Ellwood Voelker [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 10:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [BALTGEN-L] Mother of Mary Elizabeth RUFF b. 26 July 1843 Need the mothers madian name of Mary Elizabeth RUFF born 26 Jul 1843 in Maryland? A clue is Mary A. ___________ ; married JOHN AUGUSTA RUFF listed as father. John Augusta RUFF born in VA about 3 June 1814. The children birth are listed in Ruff family Bible. The other children are Andrew Augustus RUFF born LA 24 Nov. 1845 and John Lanaway RUFF born New Orleans,,LA on 13/14 Nov. 1848. Any help much appreciated. Mildred Ruff Voelker Oregon ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== Please note that hitting reply will send your response to the entire list. Please respond to people privately and not through the list unless your response contains information of general interest.

Need the mothers madian name of Mary Elizabeth RUFF born 26 Jul 1843 in Maryland? A clue is Mary A. ___________ ; married JOHN AUGUSTA RUFF listed as father. John Augusta RUFF born in VA about 3 June 1814. The children birth are listed in Ruff family Bible. The other children are Andrew Augustus RUFF born LA 24 Nov. 1845 and John Lanaway RUFF born New Orleans,,LA on 13/14 Nov. 1848. Any help much appreciated. Mildred Ruff Voelker Oregon

Very sorry for the wrong information and anyone inconvenienced. Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Kemp" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Off Topic, then on topic - KEMP > It was originally AllTel, AT&T Wireless, Cingular, Nextel, Sprint PCS, and > T-Mobile, but due to complaints, mainly caused by this hoax email > circulating, Sprint, Nextel, and AT&T have all now pulled out leaving only > AllTel and Cingular. This means that many of us who DID want to > participate will no longer be able to. It was always an Opt-In program. > Anyone not formally requesting they be included would not have been. It > would haveneverbeen available to telemarketers. This is one more good > example of people passing around hoax emails without checking them out and > thereby causing problems to others, not to mention the millions in losses > companies had already spent developing it. > > Other places where it can be checked out are > http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp > > Or directly from the Federal Government at > http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2005/04/dnc.htm > > Now that we know the truth, what has it got to do with Baltimore > Genealogy? > > But this does.... Does anyone happen to have pictures of the graves of > Frederic Ceasar Kemp and Hannah Ringgold Kemp in Baltimore at Lorraine > Park Cemetary, Woodlawn, Baltimore Co., MD Lot 662 Section 3? > > Cassie Kilroy Thompson wrote: > >> not exactly true... see below: >> http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/business/a/cell_directory.htm >> "Comments: While it's true that the major wireless phone providers >> (Verizon excepted) have announced their intention to establish a 411 >> directory of customers' cell phone numbers beginning in 2006, it is not >> true that they plan to "publish" said directory for any and all to read. >> Participating companies say the numbers will be made available only with >> customer consent, and only via telephone to users who dial directory >> assistance and pay a fee. >> >> The companies swear the numbers will never be accessible to >> telemarketers. In fact, per FCC regulations, telemarketers are already >> prohibited from calling cell phone numbers using automated dialers, >> which are standard in the industry. >> >> Not everyone is convinced that consumers' privacy will be adequately >> shielded, however, as evidenced by a privacy protection bill already >> introduced in Congress which would modify the plan to allow 411 callers >> to be directly connected to requested parties without the latter's phone >> numbers being given out. Lawmakers have yet to act on the legislation. >> >> In any case, the Federal Trade Commission does allow cell phone users to >> add their numbers to the National Do Not Call Registry — the same one >> already in force for landlines — either on the Web or by calling >> 1-888-382-1222. >> >> Contrary to what some variants of the email rumor claim, there is no >> 31-day or December 15 deadline for adding cell phone numbers to the Do >> Not Call list — indeed, there is no deadline whatsoever." >> >> On Jan 24, 2006, at 2:05 PM, Ruth Brooks wrote: >> >> >> Sorry to post an off-topic message but maybe it will keep a few listers >> from being taken advantage of. >> Ruth >> >> >> >> Subject: Telemarketer to gain access to your cell phone # >> FYI >> >> >> This works for home phone, also >> >> >> JUST A REMINDER....31 days from today, all cell phone numbers >> are being released to telemarketing companies and you will >> start to receive sale calls. ...YOU WILL BE CHARGED FOR THESE >> CALLS... To prevent this, call the following number from your >> cell phone: 888-382-1222. It is the National DO NOT CALL list. >> >> It will only take a minute of your time. It blocks your number >> for five (5) years. >> >> >> HELP OTHERS BY PASSING THIS ON TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS OR GO TO: >> >> www.donotcall.gov http://www.donotcall.gov/ >> >> Tip: Might want to keep 1-888-382-1222 and/or www.donotcall.gov >> http://www.donotcall.gov/ address book. Then you will have it if you >> change/add phone numbers. Also, if you should wish to file a complaint. >> >> >> >> ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== >> USGenWeb/MDGenWeb site for Carroll Co. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdcarrol >> USGenWeb/MDGenWeb site for Howard Co.http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdhoward >> >> > > -- > > Tim Kemp Amateur Radio Station WB4BAH > > [email protected] > [email protected] > > AOL Instant Messenger - Tim D Kemp > > The Kemp Family Homepage > http://www.mindspring.com/~tkemp > Genealogy info on KEMP, STROTHER, MURPHY, and allied families. > > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > Please Check Our New web site for the BALTGEN-L mailing list. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim/baltgen-l.htm >

Sorry to post an off-topic message but maybe it will keep a few listers from being taken advantage of. Ruth Subject: Telemarketer to gain access to your cell phone # FYI This works for home phone, also JUST A REMINDER....31 days from today, all cell phone numbers are being released to telemarketing companies and you will start to receive sale calls. ...YOU WILL BE CHARGED FOR THESE CALLS... To prevent this, call the following number from your cell phone: 888-382-1222. It is the National DO NOT CALL list. It will only take a minute of your time. It blocks your number for five (5) years. HELP OTHERS BY PASSING THIS ON TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS OR GO TO: www.donotcall.gov http://www.donotcall.gov/ Tip: Might want to keep 1-888-382-1222 and/or www.donotcall.gov http://www.donotcall.gov/ address book. Then you will have it if you change/add phone numbers. Also, if you should wish to file a complaint.

Hi Letty, I just saw your response to someone about the 1890 directory. Would you be able to find a Joshua Jones for me. I don't have a middle name, but he should be in MD and possibly in the Hampden area? Thanks. Jane

>Fellow rooters....Seeking information/details re descendants of the marriage >in Baltimore summer 1939 of Anna Louise Murphy to Edward Scott Hopkins. Anna >Louise was dau of Mrs. William Lambdin Murphy of Baltimore area. I know a >little about the earlier Murphys pre 1939, but nothing of these folks from >that >date forward. Appreciate any tips/suggestions for further research. Charlie >Murphy near Seattle I'm on line @ [email protected]

Hello, This link came through on another list and I thought someone here might be able to use it. Mona Jewish Orphanages in the United States http://www.hnoh.com<about:blank>

It was originally AllTel, AT&T Wireless, Cingular, Nextel, Sprint PCS, and T-Mobile, but due to complaints, mainly caused by this hoax email circulating, Sprint, Nextel, and AT&T have all now pulled out leaving only AllTel and Cingular. This means that many of us who DID want to participate will no longer be able to. It was always an Opt-In program. Anyone not formally requesting they be included would not have been. It would haveneverbeen available to telemarketers. This is one more good example of people passing around hoax emails without checking them out and thereby causing problems to others, not to mention the millions in losses companies had already spent developing it. Other places where it can be checked out are http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp Or directly from the Federal Government at http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2005/04/dnc.htm Now that we know the truth, what has it got to do with Baltimore Genealogy? But this does.... Does anyone happen to have pictures of the graves of Frederic Ceasar Kemp and Hannah Ringgold Kemp in Baltimore at Lorraine Park Cemetary, Woodlawn, Baltimore Co., MD Lot 662 Section 3? Cassie Kilroy Thompson wrote: > not exactly true... see below: > http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/business/a/cell_directory.htm > "Comments: While it's true that the major wireless phone providers > (Verizon excepted) have announced their intention to establish a 411 > directory of customers' cell phone numbers beginning in 2006, it is > not true that they plan to "publish" said directory for any and all > to read. Participating companies say the numbers will be made > available only with customer consent, and only via telephone to users > who dial directory assistance and pay a fee. > > The companies swear the numbers will never be accessible to > telemarketers. In fact, per FCC regulations, telemarketers are > already prohibited from calling cell phone numbers using automated > dialers, which are standard in the industry. > > Not everyone is convinced that consumers' privacy will be adequately > shielded, however, as evidenced by a privacy protection bill already > introduced in Congress which would modify the plan to allow 411 > callers to be directly connected to requested parties without the > latter's phone numbers being given out. Lawmakers have yet to act on > the legislation. > > In any case, the Federal Trade Commission does allow cell phone users > to add their numbers to the National Do Not Call Registry — the same > one already in force for landlines — either on the Web or by calling > 1-888-382-1222. > > Contrary to what some variants of the email rumor claim, there is no > 31-day or December 15 deadline for adding cell phone numbers to the > Do Not Call list — indeed, there is no deadline whatsoever." > > On Jan 24, 2006, at 2:05 PM, Ruth Brooks wrote: > > > Sorry to post an off-topic message but maybe it will keep a few > listers from being taken advantage of. > Ruth > > > > Subject: Telemarketer to gain access to your cell phone # > FYI > > > This works for home phone, also > > > JUST A REMINDER....31 days from today, all cell phone numbers > are being released to telemarketing companies and you will > start to receive sale calls. ...YOU WILL BE CHARGED FOR THESE > CALLS... To prevent this, call the following number from your > cell phone: 888-382-1222. It is the National DO NOT CALL list. > > It will only take a minute of your time. It blocks your number > for five (5) years. > > > HELP OTHERS BY PASSING THIS ON TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS OR GO TO: > > www.donotcall.gov http://www.donotcall.gov/ > > Tip: Might want to keep 1-888-382-1222 and/or www.donotcall.gov > http://www.donotcall.gov/ address book. Then you will have it if you > change/add phone numbers. Also, if you should wish to file a complaint. > > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb/MDGenWeb site for Carroll Co. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdcarrol > USGenWeb/MDGenWeb site for Howard Co.http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdhoward > > -- Tim Kemp Amateur Radio Station WB4BAH [email protected] [email protected] AOL Instant Messenger - Tim D Kemp The Kemp Family Homepage http://www.mindspring.com/~tkemp Genealogy info on KEMP, STROTHER, MURPHY, and allied families.

not exactly true... see below: http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/business/a/cell_directory.htm "Comments: While it's true that the major wireless phone providers (Verizon excepted) have announced their intention to establish a 411 directory of customers' cell phone numbers beginning in 2006, it is not true that they plan to "publish" said directory for any and all to read. Participating companies say the numbers will be made available only with customer consent, and only via telephone to users who dial directory assistance and pay a fee. The companies swear the numbers will never be accessible to telemarketers. In fact, per FCC regulations, telemarketers are already prohibited from calling cell phone numbers using automated dialers, which are standard in the industry. Not everyone is convinced that consumers' privacy will be adequately shielded, however, as evidenced by a privacy protection bill already introduced in Congress which would modify the plan to allow 411 callers to be directly connected to requested parties without the latter's phone numbers being given out. Lawmakers have yet to act on the legislation. In any case, the Federal Trade Commission does allow cell phone users to add their numbers to the National Do Not Call Registry — the same one already in force for landlines — either on the Web or by calling 1-888-382-1222. Contrary to what some variants of the email rumor claim, there is no 31-day or December 15 deadline for adding cell phone numbers to the Do Not Call list — indeed, there is no deadline whatsoever." On Jan 24, 2006, at 2:05 PM, Ruth Brooks wrote: Sorry to post an off-topic message but maybe it will keep a few listers from being taken advantage of. Ruth Subject: Telemarketer to gain access to your cell phone # FYI This works for home phone, also JUST A REMINDER....31 days from today, all cell phone numbers are being released to telemarketing companies and you will start to receive sale calls. ...YOU WILL BE CHARGED FOR THESE CALLS... To prevent this, call the following number from your cell phone: 888-382-1222. It is the National DO NOT CALL list. It will only take a minute of your time. It blocks your number for five (5) years. HELP OTHERS BY PASSING THIS ON TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS OR GO TO: www.donotcall.gov http://www.donotcall.gov/ Tip: Might want to keep 1-888-382-1222 and/or www.donotcall.gov http://www.donotcall.gov/ address book. Then you will have it if you change/add phone numbers. Also, if you should wish to file a complaint.

Sorry this did not forward before in its entirety previous, please respond to: [email protected] >Fellow Rooters: Seeking any information re descendants of Elizabeth H >Murphy mar 1873 to Wm C Rouse of Baltimore. The 1900 Baltimore census >shows their >family of six children: John G, Jr 16, Aimee M 26, Marie L 23 (she later >married a Clarence Gore, dental surgeon in Baltimore), Elizabeth 18, >Evalyne C >13, & Roberta h 10. > The 1920 census for Balti reveals John G Jr mar an Elizabeth _______ >living on Somerset Rd, Dist 453, Ward 27. He was 35 & wife 34. One son, >age 7 >in h/h named John G, Jr. They were also in 1930 census, John G Rouse doing >well for he was listed as V/P of an insurance co; two children in h/h John >G Jr >17 & Elizabeth A Rouse 14. > One of the 1900 census family daughters, Marie, found in 1930 census >with her husband Clarence Gore, the dental surgeon. Two children in that h/h >Francis E 21 & Eliz H 13. > Would be delighted to contact any descendants of these folks; I sent >letter to Baltimore Sun recently hoping to have it published in "letters to >editor" but after several months I've nothing from paper, so assume it was >not >acted upon. FYI I'm Charlie Murphy near Seattle. E >mail [email protected] >thanks for any suggestions for my further family research.

There is a James Rouse Real Estate Developer in and around Baltimore. You might want to check on him. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "lee" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 6:55 PM Subject: [BALTGEN-L] Fwd: {not a subscriber} Rouse-Murphy-Gore Baltimore area > >>Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:34:21 -0700 >>X-From_: [email protected] Wed Jan 18 14:34:21 2006 >>From: [email protected] >>Old-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:34:05 EST >>To: [email protected] >>X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5042 >>X-Spam-Flag: NO >>X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.16.34 >>X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list >>Subject: {not a subscriber} Rouse-Murphy-Gore Baltimore area >>X-Envelope-To: BALTGEN-L >>X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/100, host=mr02.mrf.mail.rcn.net >>X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, >>refid=0001.0A090208.43CEB337.0031:SCEMA542823-F-tvqJKY4HInECCrm042curQ==, >>ip=66.43.18.41 >> >>Fellow Rooters: Seeking any information re descendants of Elizabeth H >>Murphy mar 1873 to Wm C Rouse of Baltimore. The 1900 Baltimore census >>shows their >>family of six children: John G, Jr 16, Aimee M 26, Marie L 23 (she later >>married a Clarence Gore, dental surgeon in Baltimore), Elizabeth 18, >>Evalyne C >>13, & Roberta h 10. >> The 1920 census for Balti reveals John G Jr mar an Elizabeth _______ >>living on Somerset Rd, Dist 453, Ward 27. He was 35 & wife 34. One son, >>age 7 >>in h/h named John G, Jr. They were also in 1930 census, John G Rouse >>doing >>well for he was listed as V/P of an insurance co; two children in h/h John >>G Jr >>17 & Elizabeth A Rouse 14. >> One of the 1900 census family daughters, Marie, found in 1930 census >>with her husband Clarence Gore, the dental surgeon. Two children in that >>h/h >>Francis E 21 & Eliz H 13. >> Would be delighted to contact any descendants of these folks; I sent >>letter to Baltimore Sun recently hoping to have it published in "letters >>to >>editor" but after several months I've nothing from paper, so assume it was >>not >>acted upon. FYI I'm Charlie Murphy near Seattle. E mail >>[email protected] >>thanks for any suggestions for my further family research. > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > The USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Baltimore Co. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim > >

>Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:34:21 -0700 >X-From_: [email protected] Wed Jan 18 14:34:21 2006 >From: [email protected] >Old-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:34:05 EST >To: [email protected] >X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5042 >X-Spam-Flag: NO >X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.16.34 >X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list >Subject: {not a subscriber} Rouse-Murphy-Gore Baltimore area >X-Envelope-To: BALTGEN-L >X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/100, host=mr02.mrf.mail.rcn.net >X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, >refid=0001.0A090208.43CEB337.0031:SCEMA542823-F-tvqJKY4HInECCrm042curQ==, >ip=66.43.18.41 > >Fellow Rooters: Seeking any information re descendants of Elizabeth H >Murphy mar 1873 to Wm C Rouse of Baltimore. The 1900 Baltimore census >shows their >family of six children: John G, Jr 16, Aimee M 26, Marie L 23 (she later >married a Clarence Gore, dental surgeon in Baltimore), Elizabeth 18, >Evalyne C >13, & Roberta h 10. > The 1920 census for Balti reveals John G Jr mar an Elizabeth _______ >living on Somerset Rd, Dist 453, Ward 27. He was 35 & wife 34. One son, >age 7 >in h/h named John G, Jr. They were also in 1930 census, John G Rouse doing >well for he was listed as V/P of an insurance co; two children in h/h John >G Jr >17 & Elizabeth A Rouse 14. > One of the 1900 census family daughters, Marie, found in 1930 census >with her husband Clarence Gore, the dental surgeon. Two children in that h/h >Francis E 21 & Eliz H 13. > Would be delighted to contact any descendants of these folks; I sent >letter to Baltimore Sun recently hoping to have it published in "letters to >editor" but after several months I've nothing from paper, so assume it was >not >acted upon. FYI I'm Charlie Murphy near Seattle. E >mail [email protected] >thanks for any suggestions for my further family research.

Hi, It is Tickner. I would dearly love to get to the Historical Society for a day, but even being so close it is an almost impossibility. I had forgotten that you are in Wisconsin. Long way away. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "mona everett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 4:41 PM Subject: Re: Betty--Re: [BALTGEN-L] Welsh churches in Canton? > HI, > > Probably Tickner? Some of my family used them, too. Hard to locate > records, but I will check at the Archives on my next visit. I am in > Wisconsin, so not sure when I can get there--but I plan on it sometime in > 2006. > > Mona > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "tippytoe" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 10:38 PM > Subject: Re: Betty--Re: [BALTGEN-L] Welsh churches in Canton? > > >> Hi Mona, >> I also found that some of my families used a mortuary that was directly >> across the street from Greenmount Cemetery. I believe the name began >> with a >> T, but simply cannot remember it. The mortuary is closed but the records >> are at the Maryland Historical Society. I am sure you could search there >> if >> you have a date. My understanding is that the records are not in good >> order. I was told that I could request a search for $30.00 an hour which >> I >> might not mind if the records were in order. But it could take several >> hours for a search and nothing found. My budget won't fit that. If I >> could >> get up there, I would undertake a search myself, but although I live on >> the >> Eastern Shore, my husband has a bridge problem and I do not leave him to >> go >> up there myself. >> Betty >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "mona everett" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:12 PM >> Subject: Betty--Re: [BALTGEN-L] Welsh churches in Canton? >> >> >> > Thanks! Will do. Mona >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "tippytoe" <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 6:26 PM >> > Subject: Re: Jean--Re: [BALTGEN-L] Welsh churches in Canton? >> > >> > >> >> Mona, >> >> If they lived in Canton, you might try Greenmount Cemetery. >> >> That is where many of my family are and they lived in and around >> >> Canton. >> >> Betty >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "mona everett" <[email protected]> >> >> To: <[email protected]> >> >> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 4:22 PM >> >> Subject: Jean--Re: [BALTGEN-L] Welsh churches in Canton? >> >> >> >> >> >> > Jean, >> >> > >> >> > Thank you for the Canton Timeline link--guess I haven't done a web >> >> > search >> >> > for Canton since it went up! >> >> > >> >> > Also, thank you for checking on my question. I have looked at the >> >> > Archives >> >> > and will have a lot of film to look at on my next trip to Baltimore >> >> > (Annapolis). >> >> > >> >> > You are right--there were earlier copperworks (in the area--my >> >> > family >> >> > was >> >> > at the Locust Point one from 1845-50, and then moved to Canton. My >> >> > earliest ancestor died in 1854--I have no idea where he is buried, >> >> > as >> >> > his >> >> > obit didn't say and he is not at Mt. Carmel with the others (Mt. >> >> > Carmel >> >> > opened just months after he died). >> >> > >> >> > Thanks, again, for providing new direction for my research. >> >> > >> >> > Mona >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > From: "Jean Johnson" <[email protected]> >> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> >> > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 2:51 PM >> >> > Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Welsh churches in Canton? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Mona, >> >> >> >> >> >> There is a Canton Time Line >> >> >> http://www.cantoncommunity.org/welcome/neighborhood/canton_timeline.html >> >> >> >> >> >> Your church is not mentioned directly. >> >> >> You wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> " Does anyone know anything about the United Welsh Church that was >> >> >> in >> >> >> Canton? It was >> >> >> established in 1852 in a schoolhouse, with the Rev. Benjamin >> >> >> Davies. A >> >> >> new chapel opened in Jan. 1867. >> >> >> >> >> >> I also found an 1870 mention of "a Welsh house of worship about >> >> >> two >> >> >> miles northeast of the city (Baltimore) near the Canton >> >> >> Copperworks". >> >> >> >> >> >> The timeline abstracted has the following information: >> >> >> >> >> >> In 1847 Canton Methodist Church, first church in Canton, dedicated >> >> >> on >> >> >> Clinton St. between Boston & Toone >> >> >> >> >> >> In 1850 Baltimore Copper Smelting Co. formed in 1600 block S. >> >> >> Clinton >> >> >> St., making 6 million pounds by 1860 >> >> >> >> >> >> In 1865 Welsh copper workers build Presbyterian church on Toone St. >> >> >> under direction of Rev. J. Wynne Jones >> >> >> >> >> >> In 1870 Public School No. 1, known as Kenny school, built on 1st >> >> >> St. >> >> >> (Highland Ave.) between Toone & Elliott >> >> >> >> >> >> Mona, your relatives came in the 1840's to work in copper mining; >> >> >> perhaps there was an earlier copper mine not mentined in this >> >> >> timeline. >> >> >> >> >> >> Also have you looked at the Maryland State Archives website in the >> >> >> Church records section? >> >> >> http://speccol.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/speccol/catalog/religion/cfm/dsp_churches.cfm >> >> >> >> >> >> Good luck with your search. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 1/11/06, mona everett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > Hello! >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Does anyone know anything about the United Welsh Church that >> >> >> > was >> >> >> > in >> >> >> > Canton? It was established in 1852 in a schoolhouse, with the >> >> >> > Rev. >> >> >> > Benjamin Davies. A new chapel opened in Jan. 1867. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I also found an 1870 mention of "a Welsh house of worship about >> >> >> > two >> >> >> > miles northeast of the city (Baltimore) near the Canton >> >> >> > Copperworks". >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I am not sure if these are the same church or are two different >> >> >> > ones. >> >> >> > (Neither is Abbott Memorial, which opened later.) >> >> >> > >> >> >> > My family arrived in Baltimore from Glamorgan, South Wales, >> >> >> > about >> >> >> > 1844-5 to work in the copperworks, and I am trying to find out >> >> >> > where >> >> >> > they worshipped. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I would like to know where the records of the Canton-area Welsh >> >> >> > churches are (any denomination). >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Thanks for any help or suggestions. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Mona Everett >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== >> >> >> > Please Check Our New web site for the BALTGEN-L mailing list. >> >> >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim/baltgen-l.htm >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== >> >> >> The Baltimore County Genealogical Society web site: >> >> >> http://www.serve.com/bcgs/bcgs.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== >> >> > The USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Baltimore Co. >> >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== >> >> USGenWeb/MDGenWeb site for Carroll Co. >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdcarrol >> >> USGenWeb/MDGenWeb site for Howard Co.http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdhoward >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== >> > Please make sure the options in your E mail program disables quoting >> > the >> > message in HTML when posting to any Roots-L mailing list. >> > >> > >> >> >> ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== >> The Maryland Genealogical Society web site is: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdsgs >> >> > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > The Baltgen-L list focuses on GENEALOGY research for > Baltimore, Anne Arundel, Harford, and Howard Cos. 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HI, Probably Tickner? Some of my family used them, too. Hard to locate records, but I will check at the Archives on my next visit. I am in Wisconsin, so not sure when I can get there--but I plan on it sometime in 2006. Mona ----- Original Message ----- From: "tippytoe" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 10:38 PM Subject: Re: Betty--Re: [BALTGEN-L] Welsh churches in Canton? > Hi Mona, > I also found that some of my families used a mortuary that was directly > across the street from Greenmount Cemetery. I believe the name began with > a > T, but simply cannot remember it. The mortuary is closed but the records > are at the Maryland Historical Society. I am sure you could search there > if > you have a date. My understanding is that the records are not in good > order. I was told that I could request a search for $30.00 an hour which > I > might not mind if the records were in order. But it could take several > hours for a search and nothing found. My budget won't fit that. If I > could > get up there, I would undertake a search myself, but although I live on > the > Eastern Shore, my husband has a bridge problem and I do not leave him to > go > up there myself. > Betty > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mona everett" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:12 PM > Subject: Betty--Re: [BALTGEN-L] Welsh churches in Canton? > > > > Thanks! Will do. Mona > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "tippytoe" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 6:26 PM > > Subject: Re: Jean--Re: [BALTGEN-L] Welsh churches in Canton? > > > > > >> Mona, > >> If they lived in Canton, you might try Greenmount Cemetery. > >> That is where many of my family are and they lived in and around > >> Canton. > >> Betty > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "mona everett" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 4:22 PM > >> Subject: Jean--Re: [BALTGEN-L] Welsh churches in Canton? > >> > >> > >> > Jean, > >> > > >> > Thank you for the Canton Timeline link--guess I haven't done a web > >> > search > >> > for Canton since it went up! > >> > > >> > Also, thank you for checking on my question. I have looked at the > >> > Archives > >> > and will have a lot of film to look at on my next trip to Baltimore > >> > (Annapolis). > >> > > >> > You are right--there were earlier copperworks (in the area--my family > >> > was > >> > at the Locust Point one from 1845-50, and then moved to Canton. My > >> > earliest ancestor died in 1854--I have no idea where he is buried, as > >> > his > >> > obit didn't say and he is not at Mt. Carmel with the others (Mt. > >> > Carmel > >> > opened just months after he died). > >> > > >> > Thanks, again, for providing new direction for my research. > >> > > >> > Mona > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Jean Johnson" <[email protected]> > >> > To: <[email protected]> > >> > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 2:51 PM > >> > Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Welsh churches in Canton? > >> > > >> > > >> >> Mona, > >> >> > >> >> There is a Canton Time Line > >> >> http://www.cantoncommunity.org/welcome/neighborhood/canton_timeline.html > >> >> > >> >> Your church is not mentioned directly. > >> >> You wrote: > >> >> > >> >> " Does anyone know anything about the United Welsh Church that was > >> >> in > >> >> Canton? It was > >> >> established in 1852 in a schoolhouse, with the Rev. Benjamin Davies. > >> >> A > >> >> new chapel opened in Jan. 1867. > >> >> > >> >> I also found an 1870 mention of "a Welsh house of worship about two > >> >> miles northeast of the city (Baltimore) near the Canton > >> >> Copperworks". > >> >> > >> >> The timeline abstracted has the following information: > >> >> > >> >> In 1847 Canton Methodist Church, first church in Canton, dedicated > >> >> on > >> >> Clinton St. between Boston & Toone > >> >> > >> >> In 1850 Baltimore Copper Smelting Co. formed in 1600 block S. > >> >> Clinton > >> >> St., making 6 million pounds by 1860 > >> >> > >> >> In 1865 Welsh copper workers build Presbyterian church on Toone St. > >> >> under direction of Rev. J. Wynne Jones > >> >> > >> >> In 1870 Public School No. 1, known as Kenny school, built on 1st > >> >> St. > >> >> (Highland Ave.) between Toone & Elliott > >> >> > >> >> Mona, your relatives came in the 1840's to work in copper mining; > >> >> perhaps there was an earlier copper mine not mentined in this > >> >> timeline. > >> >> > >> >> Also have you looked at the Maryland State Archives website in the > >> >> Church records section? > >> >> http://speccol.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/speccol/catalog/religion/cfm/dsp_churches.cfm > >> >> > >> >> Good luck with your search. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On 1/11/06, mona everett <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > Hello! > >> >> > > >> >> > Does anyone know anything about the United Welsh Church that > >> >> > was > >> >> > in > >> >> > Canton? It was established in 1852 in a schoolhouse, with the Rev. > >> >> > Benjamin Davies. A new chapel opened in Jan. 1867. > >> >> > > >> >> > I also found an 1870 mention of "a Welsh house of worship about > >> >> > two > >> >> > miles northeast of the city (Baltimore) near the Canton > >> >> > Copperworks". > >> >> > > >> >> > I am not sure if these are the same church or are two different > >> >> > ones. > >> >> > (Neither is Abbott Memorial, which opened later.) > >> >> > > >> >> > My family arrived in Baltimore from Glamorgan, South Wales, > >> >> > about > >> >> > 1844-5 to work in the copperworks, and I am trying to find out > >> >> > where > >> >> > they worshipped. > >> >> > > >> >> > I would like to know where the records of the Canton-area Welsh > >> >> > churches are (any denomination). > >> >> > > >> >> > Thanks for any help or suggestions. > >> >> > > >> >> > Mona Everett > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > >> >> > Please Check Our New web site for the BALTGEN-L mailing list. > >> >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim/baltgen-l.htm > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > >> >> The Baltimore County Genealogical Society web site: > >> >> http://www.serve.com/bcgs/bcgs.html > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > >> > The USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Baltimore Co. > >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > >> USGenWeb/MDGenWeb site for Carroll Co. > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdcarrol > >> USGenWeb/MDGenWeb site for Howard Co.http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdhoward > >> > >> > > > > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > > Please make sure the options in your E mail program disables quoting the > > message in HTML when posting to any Roots-L mailing list. > > > > > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > The Maryland Genealogical Society web site is: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdsgs > >

While at the Baltimore County Genealogical Society, I looked through the book "Three Hundred Years of Maryland Gambrills" by Mary Alice Moore Bowerman, copyrighted 1973. No George Gambrills were listed, but I did find 43 Moores and 4 of them were named George. I thought if I searched the Baltimore City Directories for years earlier than the 1902, I could find a George Gambrill who could possibly be the father or grandfather of the individual you are searching for. Here is what I found: 1861 No George Gambrills 1870 Gambrill Geo. T. (G. & Williar) Eutaw House 1880 Gambrill Geo. T. (Trail & G.) 218 n Carey 1890 Gambrill Geo. T. (J. H. Sherbert & Co.), grain, 42 Chamber Commerce, h1419 Eutaw pl Gambrill Geo. T. bkpr, 42 Chamber Commerce 1901 Gambrill Geo P, electrician, 24 Pearl Gambrill Geo T, grain, 42 Chamber of Commerce, h1419 Eutaw pl I also searched starting in 1920, hoping that the George Gambrill who you are seeking would be listed at a place of employment and/or at his home. 1920 Gambrill Geo T mngr Gambrill Grain Products Co 1314 Bolton Gambrill Geo W prod Washington and Maple avs h do 1921 Gambrill Geo T mngr Gambrill Grain Products Co 1314 Bolton Gambrill Geo W stonemason h Maple av Dixon Pk 1923 Gambrill Geo T mgr h715 St Paul 1924-5 Gambrill Geo T h715 St Paul 1927 Gambrill Geo T (Margt J) r715 St Paul 1928 Gambrill Geo T (Margt J) r715 St Paul 1929 Gambrill Geo (Maggie) r715 St Paul 1930 No George Gambrill listed The Baltimore City Directories that I have access to are at The Towson Branch of the Baltimore County Public Library and only cover the period from 1861 to 1930. The Enoch Pratt Library covers a much greater range of years. My connection to the Gambrill family is through my maternal great-grandmother, Ella Gambrill, (1854-1923). George Meredith Nuetzel Parkville, Baltimore County, Maryland [email protected] wrote: > Searching for George Gambrill, born early 1900's, who married Madelyn Moore > in Maryland. > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > Please make sure the options in your E mail program disables quoting the > message in HTML when posting to any Roots-L mailing list.

Hi Mona, I also found that some of my families used a mortuary that was directly across the street from Greenmount Cemetery. I believe the name began with a T, but simply cannot remember it. The mortuary is closed but the records are at the Maryland Historical Society. I am sure you could search there if you have a date. My understanding is that the records are not in good order. I was told that I could request a search for $30.00 an hour which I might not mind if the records were in order. But it could take several hours for a search and nothing found. My budget won't fit that. If I could get up there, I would undertake a search myself, but although I live on the Eastern Shore, my husband has a bridge problem and I do not leave him to go up there myself. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "mona everett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:12 PM Subject: Betty--Re: [BALTGEN-L] Welsh churches in Canton? > Thanks! Will do. Mona > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "tippytoe" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 6:26 PM > Subject: Re: Jean--Re: [BALTGEN-L] Welsh churches in Canton? > > >> Mona, >> If they lived in Canton, you might try Greenmount Cemetery. >> That is where many of my family are and they lived in and around Canton. >> Betty >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "mona everett" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 4:22 PM >> Subject: Jean--Re: [BALTGEN-L] Welsh churches in Canton? >> >> >> > Jean, >> > >> > Thank you for the Canton Timeline link--guess I haven't done a web >> > search >> > for Canton since it went up! >> > >> > Also, thank you for checking on my question. I have looked at the >> > Archives >> > and will have a lot of film to look at on my next trip to Baltimore >> > (Annapolis). >> > >> > You are right--there were earlier copperworks (in the area--my family >> > was >> > at the Locust Point one from 1845-50, and then moved to Canton. My >> > earliest ancestor died in 1854--I have no idea where he is buried, as >> > his >> > obit didn't say and he is not at Mt. Carmel with the others (Mt. Carmel >> > opened just months after he died). >> > >> > Thanks, again, for providing new direction for my research. >> > >> > Mona >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Jean Johnson" <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 2:51 PM >> > Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Welsh churches in Canton? >> > >> > >> >> Mona, >> >> >> >> There is a Canton Time Line >> >> http://www.cantoncommunity.org/welcome/neighborhood/canton_timeline.html >> >> >> >> Your church is not mentioned directly. >> >> You wrote: >> >> >> >> " Does anyone know anything about the United Welsh Church that was in >> >> Canton? It was >> >> established in 1852 in a schoolhouse, with the Rev. Benjamin Davies. A >> >> new chapel opened in Jan. 1867. >> >> >> >> I also found an 1870 mention of "a Welsh house of worship about two >> >> miles northeast of the city (Baltimore) near the Canton Copperworks". >> >> >> >> The timeline abstracted has the following information: >> >> >> >> In 1847 Canton Methodist Church, first church in Canton, dedicated on >> >> Clinton St. between Boston & Toone >> >> >> >> In 1850 Baltimore Copper Smelting Co. formed in 1600 block S. Clinton >> >> St., making 6 million pounds by 1860 >> >> >> >> In 1865 Welsh copper workers build Presbyterian church on Toone St. >> >> under direction of Rev. J. Wynne Jones >> >> >> >> In 1870 Public School No. 1, known as Kenny school, built on 1st St. >> >> (Highland Ave.) between Toone & Elliott >> >> >> >> Mona, your relatives came in the 1840's to work in copper mining; >> >> perhaps there was an earlier copper mine not mentined in this >> >> timeline. >> >> >> >> Also have you looked at the Maryland State Archives website in the >> >> Church records section? >> >> http://speccol.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/speccol/catalog/religion/cfm/dsp_churches.cfm >> >> >> >> Good luck with your search. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 1/11/06, mona everett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Hello! >> >> > >> >> > Does anyone know anything about the United Welsh Church that was >> >> > in >> >> > Canton? It was established in 1852 in a schoolhouse, with the Rev. >> >> > Benjamin Davies. A new chapel opened in Jan. 1867. >> >> > >> >> > I also found an 1870 mention of "a Welsh house of worship about >> >> > two >> >> > miles northeast of the city (Baltimore) near the Canton >> >> > Copperworks". >> >> > >> >> > I am not sure if these are the same church or are two different >> >> > ones. >> >> > (Neither is Abbott Memorial, which opened later.) >> >> > >> >> > My family arrived in Baltimore from Glamorgan, South Wales, about >> >> > 1844-5 to work in the copperworks, and I am trying to find out where >> >> > they worshipped. >> >> > >> >> > I would like to know where the records of the Canton-area Welsh >> >> > churches are (any denomination). >> >> > >> >> > Thanks for any help or suggestions. >> >> > >> >> > Mona Everett >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== >> >> > Please Check Our New web site for the BALTGEN-L mailing list. >> >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim/baltgen-l.htm >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== >> >> The Baltimore County Genealogical Society web site: >> >> http://www.serve.com/bcgs/bcgs.html >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== >> > The USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Baltimore Co. >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim >> > >> > >> >> >> ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== >> USGenWeb/MDGenWeb site for Carroll Co. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdcarrol >> USGenWeb/MDGenWeb site for Howard Co.http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdhoward >> >> > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > Please make sure the options in your E mail program disables quoting the > message in HTML when posting to any Roots-L mailing list. > >

Thanks! Will do. Mona ----- Original Message ----- From: "tippytoe" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Jean--Re: [BALTGEN-L] Welsh churches in Canton? > Mona, > If they lived in Canton, you might try Greenmount Cemetery. > That is where many of my family are and they lived in and around Canton. > Betty > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mona everett" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 4:22 PM > Subject: Jean--Re: [BALTGEN-L] Welsh churches in Canton? > > > > Jean, > > > > Thank you for the Canton Timeline link--guess I haven't done a web > > search > > for Canton since it went up! > > > > Also, thank you for checking on my question. I have looked at the > > Archives > > and will have a lot of film to look at on my next trip to Baltimore > > (Annapolis). > > > > You are right--there were earlier copperworks (in the area--my family > > was > > at the Locust Point one from 1845-50, and then moved to Canton. My > > earliest ancestor died in 1854--I have no idea where he is buried, as > > his > > obit didn't say and he is not at Mt. Carmel with the others (Mt. Carmel > > opened just months after he died). > > > > Thanks, again, for providing new direction for my research. > > > > Mona > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jean Johnson" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 2:51 PM > > Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Welsh churches in Canton? > > > > > >> Mona, > >> > >> There is a Canton Time Line > >> http://www.cantoncommunity.org/welcome/neighborhood/canton_timeline.html > >> > >> Your church is not mentioned directly. > >> You wrote: > >> > >> " Does anyone know anything about the United Welsh Church that was in > >> Canton? It was > >> established in 1852 in a schoolhouse, with the Rev. Benjamin Davies. A > >> new chapel opened in Jan. 1867. > >> > >> I also found an 1870 mention of "a Welsh house of worship about two > >> miles northeast of the city (Baltimore) near the Canton Copperworks". > >> > >> The timeline abstracted has the following information: > >> > >> In 1847 Canton Methodist Church, first church in Canton, dedicated on > >> Clinton St. between Boston & Toone > >> > >> In 1850 Baltimore Copper Smelting Co. formed in 1600 block S. Clinton > >> St., making 6 million pounds by 1860 > >> > >> In 1865 Welsh copper workers build Presbyterian church on Toone St. > >> under direction of Rev. J. Wynne Jones > >> > >> In 1870 Public School No. 1, known as Kenny school, built on 1st St. > >> (Highland Ave.) between Toone & Elliott > >> > >> Mona, your relatives came in the 1840's to work in copper mining; > >> perhaps there was an earlier copper mine not mentined in this > >> timeline. > >> > >> Also have you looked at the Maryland State Archives website in the > >> Church records section? > >> http://speccol.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/speccol/catalog/religion/cfm/dsp_churches.cfm > >> > >> Good luck with your search. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 1/11/06, mona everett <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Hello! > >> > > >> > Does anyone know anything about the United Welsh Church that was > >> > in > >> > Canton? It was established in 1852 in a schoolhouse, with the Rev. > >> > Benjamin Davies. A new chapel opened in Jan. 1867. > >> > > >> > I also found an 1870 mention of "a Welsh house of worship about two > >> > miles northeast of the city (Baltimore) near the Canton Copperworks". > >> > > >> > I am not sure if these are the same church or are two different > >> > ones. > >> > (Neither is Abbott Memorial, which opened later.) > >> > > >> > My family arrived in Baltimore from Glamorgan, South Wales, about > >> > 1844-5 to work in the copperworks, and I am trying to find out where > >> > they worshipped. > >> > > >> > I would like to know where the records of the Canton-area Welsh > >> > churches are (any denomination). > >> > > >> > Thanks for any help or suggestions. > >> > > >> > Mona Everett > >> > > >> > > >> > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > >> > Please Check Our New web site for the BALTGEN-L mailing list. > >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim/baltgen-l.htm > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > >> The Baltimore County Genealogical Society web site: > >> http://www.serve.com/bcgs/bcgs.html > >> > >> > > > > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > > The USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Baltimore Co. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim > > > > > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb/MDGenWeb site for Carroll Co. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdcarrol > USGenWeb/MDGenWeb site for Howard Co.http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdhoward > >

Mona, If they lived in Canton, you might try Greenmount Cemetery. That is where many of my family are and they lived in and around Canton. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "mona everett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 4:22 PM Subject: Jean--Re: [BALTGEN-L] Welsh churches in Canton? > Jean, > > Thank you for the Canton Timeline link--guess I haven't done a web search > for Canton since it went up! > > Also, thank you for checking on my question. I have looked at the Archives > and will have a lot of film to look at on my next trip to Baltimore > (Annapolis). > > You are right--there were earlier copperworks (in the area--my family was > at the Locust Point one from 1845-50, and then moved to Canton. My > earliest ancestor died in 1854--I have no idea where he is buried, as his > obit didn't say and he is not at Mt. Carmel with the others (Mt. Carmel > opened just months after he died). > > Thanks, again, for providing new direction for my research. > > Mona > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jean Johnson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 2:51 PM > Subject: Re: [BALTGEN-L] Welsh churches in Canton? > > >> Mona, >> >> There is a Canton Time Line >> http://www.cantoncommunity.org/welcome/neighborhood/canton_timeline.html >> >> Your church is not mentioned directly. >> You wrote: >> >> " Does anyone know anything about the United Welsh Church that was in >> Canton? It was >> established in 1852 in a schoolhouse, with the Rev. Benjamin Davies. A >> new chapel opened in Jan. 1867. >> >> I also found an 1870 mention of "a Welsh house of worship about two >> miles northeast of the city (Baltimore) near the Canton Copperworks". >> >> The timeline abstracted has the following information: >> >> In 1847 Canton Methodist Church, first church in Canton, dedicated on >> Clinton St. between Boston & Toone >> >> In 1850 Baltimore Copper Smelting Co. formed in 1600 block S. Clinton >> St., making 6 million pounds by 1860 >> >> In 1865 Welsh copper workers build Presbyterian church on Toone St. >> under direction of Rev. J. Wynne Jones >> >> In 1870 Public School No. 1, known as Kenny school, built on 1st St. >> (Highland Ave.) between Toone & Elliott >> >> Mona, your relatives came in the 1840's to work in copper mining; >> perhaps there was an earlier copper mine not mentined in this >> timeline. >> >> Also have you looked at the Maryland State Archives website in the >> Church records section? >> http://speccol.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/speccol/catalog/religion/cfm/dsp_churches.cfm >> >> Good luck with your search. >> >> >> >> >> On 1/11/06, mona everett <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Hello! >> > >> > Does anyone know anything about the United Welsh Church that was in >> > Canton? It was established in 1852 in a schoolhouse, with the Rev. >> > Benjamin Davies. A new chapel opened in Jan. 1867. >> > >> > I also found an 1870 mention of "a Welsh house of worship about two >> > miles northeast of the city (Baltimore) near the Canton Copperworks". >> > >> > I am not sure if these are the same church or are two different ones. >> > (Neither is Abbott Memorial, which opened later.) >> > >> > My family arrived in Baltimore from Glamorgan, South Wales, about >> > 1844-5 to work in the copperworks, and I am trying to find out where >> > they worshipped. >> > >> > I would like to know where the records of the Canton-area Welsh >> > churches are (any denomination). >> > >> > Thanks for any help or suggestions. >> > >> > Mona Everett >> > >> > >> > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== >> > Please Check Our New web site for the BALTGEN-L mailing list. >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim/baltgen-l.htm >> > >> > >> >> >> ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== >> The Baltimore County Genealogical Society web site: >> http://www.serve.com/bcgs/bcgs.html >> >> > > > ==== BALTGEN Mailing List ==== > The USGenWeb/MDGenWeb page for Baltimore Co. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdbaltim > >