Martin would you please check Ziebold? Sent from my iPad On Mar 17, 2012, at 9:57 AM, "Marvin Hoerig" <[email protected]> wrote: > Peter et al, > > Heinrich Raab compiled a list of prisoners that were held at the prison at > Rastatt, Baden - Fort A - during the Baden Revolution in 1848 and 1849. > There are 38,431 persons listed. Some records show nearly no information > about the prisoner - last name only, sex, and nationality, which is very > disappointing. Others records are treasure trove of genealogical > information that may even include a detailed biography of the prisoner. > Most records fall between these two extremes. > > I have a copy of Raab's list and have been doing look-ups for people for > years. In the hundreds of look-ups I've done, there have been some very > rewarding discoveries, where some one learned something about and ancestor > that tore down a brick wall for them. These finds are my reward. > > Here are a few facts about these records: > > More than 1/2 the prisoners were from Baden > Country of origin is usually listed > Listed residences are not necessarily birth places > Few records show a birth place > Few records show an age > Even fewer records show a birth date > Spelling of names is often different than expected > The majority of prisoners were male, but not all > The majority were German, but not all > Most were between 18 and 50 years old, but not all > Year of incarceration is almost always listed > Membership in the Revolutionary Army or Militia may be noted > Marital status is seldom noted > > > If some records show little useful information, it should be kept in mind > that the information was, no doubt, gathered from a single source - - the > prisoner himself. This source may have been less than cooperative with the > interrogator when facing a visit to Fort A. > > I will do look-ups for anyone that thinks their ancestor might be on this > list. I ask only that you give me only one surname per request. If the > surname is a common name (Schmidt, Mueller, Meyer), I will need a given name > as well and any other information you have on the person. If you have > several spelling variations, include them also. The more information you > can furnish, the easier my job will be. > > There are no guarantees of success but, who knows, we may strike it rich or > at least uncover an important clue to an ancestor's past. > > Marvin Hoerig > > > ------------------------------------------------- > From: "Peter Elias" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 10:34 PM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [BW] RAAB Index > >> http://www.amazon.com/Heinrich-Raab/e/B001K75GL0 >> >> Peter Elias >> >> On 2012.03.16, at 11:20 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> >>> Does anyone know what "Rabb's Index" is? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> Peter Elias >> ************ >> >> http://petereliasmd.com >> http://www.pheski.smugmug.com/ >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello List, I have been requested to take the prisoner look-ups off list. Apparently, we have offended some people by cluttering the list with this ongoing thread. In the past I received requests for look-ups on both the list and my private email. This time, I neglected to include my private email in offering to do look-ups. My bad - - I apologize. I think the BW list is one of the finest lists I have seen and would not want to offend anyone; least of all our administrators who do such a fine job. Unfortunately, I thought that getting surnames out in the open would afford more opportunities to connect with long lost relatives. Perhaps, even knock down a brick wall or two and find that elusive, "Place of Birth" for an ancestor. We will loose those opportunities with all our surnames hidden away in private email boxes. That's sad ! So, in the future, I will continue to do look-ups for anyone that sends me a surname, BUT, only if they are sent to my private email. I will not respond to any requests for look-ups sent to the BW list, either past , present, or future. If I haven't answered your request as yet, please re-send it again to: [email protected] As before, the best requests have a single surname with several spelling variations, a given name, and any other information that may make the search easier. To the list administrators; if you find that the BW list is falling asleep, let me know and I'll be glad to liven it up again. To the complainers; I apologize to you but suggest you invest in a delete key. Marvin Hoerig
Well this is an unfortunate turn of events. I was enjoying reading all the requests. I thought this was the reason that it was always emphasized to kept the subject line on target - so people who weren't interested could go down the list of incoming mail and delete, delete, delete. So now the rest of us get cheated out of the show that's playing behind closed doors? I'd like to thank Marvin for the service he so selflessly provides - for free, I might add, and respectfully ask the administrators to re-evaluate the policy. If all the requests and responses bother people, they can always unsubscribe for a week or so, and use the archives to see if they missed anything of import. But this policy means that none of us have any recourse to see what we are missing. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marvin Hoerig" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 10:18 AM Subject: [BW] RAAB Index > > > Hello List, > > I have been requested to take the prisoner look-ups off list. Apparently, > we have offended some people by cluttering the list with this ongoing > thread. In the past I received requests for look-ups on both the list and > my private email. This time, I neglected to include my private email in > offering to do look-ups. My bad - - I apologize. > > I think the BW list is one of the finest lists I have seen and would not > want > to offend anyone; least of all our administrators who do such a fine job. > Unfortunately, I thought that getting surnames out in the open would > afford > more opportunities to connect with long lost relatives. Perhaps, even > knock > down a brick wall or two and find that elusive, "Place of Birth" for an > ancestor. > We will loose those opportunities with all our surnames hidden away in > private email boxes. That's sad ! > > So, in the future, I will continue to do look-ups for anyone that sends me > a > surname, BUT, only if they are sent to my private email. I will not > respond > to any requests for look-ups sent to the BW list, either past , present, > or > future. If > I haven't answered your request as yet, please re-send it again to: > > [email protected] > > As before, the best requests have a single surname with several spelling > variations, a given name, and any other information that may make the > search > easier. > > To the list administrators; if you find that the BW list is falling > asleep, > let me know and I'll be glad to liven it up again. > > To the complainers; I apologize to you but suggest you invest in a delete > key. > > Marvin Hoerig > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Barbara, There is one Gottlieb Ziebold and also one Josef Zebold Marvin Hoerig in WI -------------------------------------------------- From: "Barbara Coakley" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 9:04 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BW] RAAB Index > Martin would you please check Ziebold?