James, I can handle the deluge as long as folks are patient with me. Some of our fellow listers complained to the administrators and I was asked to cease the look-ups on the BW list and go private. I am saddened but I will comply. This is still one of the best maintained lists on the web. I don't see this will make it a better but then, who am I - - - ? I really don't know why anyone would object to seeing all kinds of surnames listed. It seems to me that hiding them in private email boxes is terribly sad. Opportunities to find information will be lost. Only two people will gain from taking these look-ups off list; the person making the request and myself. Marvin Hoerig -------------------------------------------------- From: "BroJames" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 8:44 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [BW] Fw: RAAB Index > Thanks Marvin, is your decision because there are too many listed? Just > curious. > > > Thanks again for all your help to the members of the list. > > > James Schafer > SETexas, USA > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Marvin Hoerig <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, March 18, 2012 10:33:07 PM > Subject: Re: [BW] RAAB Index > > James, > > That would be a chore I'd rather not tackle. > > Marvin Hoerig in WI > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "BroJames" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 2:39 PM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [BW] RAAB Index > >> Marvin, >> >> How would I go about getting a list of the Schäfer's you mentioned. I'm >> interested in doing follow up on any/all of them >> >> Thanks again, >> >> James Schafer >> SETexas USA >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Marvin Hoerig <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Sat, March 17, 2012 9:34:31 PM >> Subject: Re: [BW] RAAB Index >> >> James, >> >> The only spelling I found from your list was Schäfer but there was no >> Richard. Sorry >> >> Marvin Hoerig in WI >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "BroJames" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 2:00 PM >> To: <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [BW] RAAB Index >> >>> Marvin, thanks for your generous offer. I have been searching for ANY >>> information on my Great-Grandfather, but have found nothing beyond his >>> immigration to the USA in 1867. >>> >>> Although he would have been too young, I think, he was born in 1841 or >>> 1844 >>> (conflicting dates), perhaps his father would have been involved in the >>> revolution. I only have my GGF's given name, but no information on his >>> father. >>> >>> Surname: >>> Schaefer >>> Schafer >>> Shaefer >>> Shafer >>> >>> For what it's worth my GGF given name was: Richard >>> >>> I've been down dead-ends before and this may be another, but I hold out >>> hope. >>> Thank you again. >>> >>> James Schafer >>> SETexas, USA >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Marvin Hoerig <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Sat, March 17, 2012 9:57:00 AM >>> Subject: [BW] RAAB Index >>> >>> Peter et al, >>> >>> Heinrich Raab compiled a list of prisoners that were held at the prison >>> at >>> Rastatt, Baden - Fort A - during the Baden Revolution in 1848 and 1849. >>> There are 38,431 persons listed. Some records show nearly no >>> information >>> about the prisoner - last name only, sex, and nationality, which is very >>> disappointing. Others records are treasure trove of genealogical >>> information that may even include a detailed biography of the prisoner. >>> Most records fall between these two extremes. >>> >>> I have a copy of Raab's list and have been doing look-ups for people for >>> years. In the hundreds of look-ups I've done, there have been some very >>> rewarding discoveries, where some one learned something about and >>> ancestor >>> that tore down a brick wall for them. These finds are my reward. >>> >>> Here are a few facts about these records: >>> >>> More than 1/2 the prisoners were from Baden >>> Country of origin is usually listed >>> Listed residences are not necessarily birth places >>> Few records show a birth place >>> Few records show an age >>> Even fewer records show a birth date >>> Spelling of names is often different than expected >>> The majority of prisoners were male, but not all >>> The majority were German, but not all >>> Most were between 18 and 50 years old, but not all >>> Year of incarceration is almost always listed >>> Membership in the Revolutionary Army or Militia may be noted >>> Marital status is seldom noted >>> >>> >>> If some records show little useful information, it should be kept in >>> mind >>> that the information was, no doubt, gathered from a single source - - >>> the >>> prisoner himself. This source may have been less than cooperative with >>> the >>> interrogator when facing a visit to Fort A. >>> >>> I will do look-ups for anyone that thinks their ancestor might be on >>> this >>> list. I ask only that you give me only one surname per request. If the >>> surname is a common name (Schmidt, Mueller, Meyer), I will need a given >>> name >>> as well and any other information you have on the person. If you have >>> several spelling variations, include them also. The more information >>> you >>> can furnish, the easier my job will be. >>> >>> There are no guarantees of success but, who knows, we may strike it rich >>> or >>> at least uncover an important clue to an ancestor's past. >>> >>> Marvin Hoerig >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Peter Elias" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 10:34 PM >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [BW] RAAB Index >>> >>>> http://www.amazon.com/Heinrich-Raab/e/B001K75GL0 >>>> >>>> Peter Elias >>>> >>>> On 2012.03.16, at 11:20 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>> >>>>> Does anyone know what "Rabb's Index" is? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Chuck >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> Peter Elias >>>> ************ >>>> >>>> http://petereliasmd.com >>>> http://www.pheski.smugmug.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
That is the shame of it Marvin, many of us are losing a great opportunity and it isn't how it should be. There has to be a better way, the complainers have other ways to avoid so many posts if they don't want them, I was having a great time hunting clues, though none of the surnames are mine, there could a reference to one of mine. [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Marvin Hoerig <[email protected]> To: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Mar 19, 2012 11:44 am Subject: Re: [BW] Fw: RAAB Index James, I can handle the deluge as long as folks are patient with me. Some of our ellow listers complained to the administrators and I was asked to cease the ook-ups on the BW list and go private. I am saddened but I will comply. his is still one of the best maintained lists on the web. I don't see this ill make it a better but then, who am I - - - ? I really don't know why anyone would object to seeing all kinds of surnames isted. It seems to me that hiding them in private email boxes is terribly ad. Opportunities to find information will be lost. Only two people will ain from taking these look-ups off list; the person making the request and yself. Marvin Hoerig -------------------------------------------------- rom: "BroJames" <[email protected]> ent: Monday, March 19, 2012 8:44 AM o: <[email protected]> ubject: [BW] Fw: RAAB Index > Thanks Marvin, is your decision because there are too many listed? Just curious. Thanks again for all your help to the members of the list. James Schafer SETexas, USA ________________________________ From: Marvin Hoerig <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, March 18, 2012 10:33:07 PM Subject: Re: [BW] RAAB Index James, That would be a chore I'd rather not tackle. Marvin Hoerig in WI -------------------------------------------------- From: "BroJames" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 2:39 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BW] RAAB Index > Marvin, > > How would I go about getting a list of the Schäfer's you mentioned. I'm > interested in doing follow up on any/all of them > > Thanks again, > > James Schafer > SETexas USA > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Marvin Hoerig <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sat, March 17, 2012 9:34:31 PM > Subject: Re: [BW] RAAB Index > > James, > > The only spelling I found from your list was Schäfer but there was no > Richard. Sorry > > Marvin Hoerig in WI > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "BroJames" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 2:00 PM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [BW] RAAB Index > >> Marvin, thanks for your generous offer. I have been searching for ANY >> information on my Great-Grandfather, but have found nothing beyond his >> immigration to the USA in 1867. >> >> Although he would have been too young, I think, he was born in 1841 or >> 1844 >> (conflicting dates), perhaps his father would have been involved in the >> revolution. I only have my GGF's given name, but no information on his >> father. >> >> Surname: >> Schaefer >> Schafer >> Shaefer >> Shafer >> >> For what it's worth my GGF given name was: Richard >> >> I've been down dead-ends before and this may be another, but I hold out >> hope. >> Thank you again. >> >> James Schafer >> SETexas, USA >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Marvin Hoerig <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Sat, March 17, 2012 9:57:00 AM >> Subject: [BW] RAAB Index >> >> Peter et al, >> >> Heinrich Raab compiled a list of prisoners that were held at the prison >> at >> Rastatt, Baden - Fort A - during the Baden Revolution in 1848 and 1849. >> There are 38,431 persons listed. Some records show nearly no >> information >> about the prisoner - last name only, sex, and nationality, which is very >> disappointing. Others records are treasure trove of genealogical >> information that may even include a detailed biography of the prisoner. >> Most records fall between these two extremes. >> >> I have a copy of Raab's list and have been doing look-ups for people for >> years. In the hundreds of look-ups I've done, there have been some very >> rewarding discoveries, where some one learned something about and >> ancestor >> that tore down a brick wall for them. These finds are my reward. >> >> Here are a few facts about these records: >> >> More than 1/2 the prisoners were from Baden >> Country of origin is usually listed >> Listed residences are not necessarily birth places >> Few records show a birth place >> Few records show an age >> Even fewer records show a birth date >> Spelling of names is often different than expected >> The majority of prisoners were male, but not all >> The majority were German, but not all >> Most were between 18 and 50 years old, but not all >> Year of incarceration is almost always listed >> Membership in the Revolutionary Army or Militia may be noted >> Marital status is seldom noted >> >> >> If some records show little useful information, it should be kept in >> mind >> that the information was, no doubt, gathered from a single source - - >> the >> prisoner himself. This source may have been less than cooperative with >> the >> interrogator when facing a visit to Fort A. >> >> I will do look-ups for anyone that thinks their ancestor might be on >> this >> list. I ask only that you give me only one surname per request. If the >> surname is a common name (Schmidt, Mueller, Meyer), I will need a given >> name >> as well and any other information you have on the person. If you have >> several spelling variations, include them also. The more information >> you >> can furnish, the easier my job will be. >> >> There are no guarantees of success but, who knows, we may strike it rich >> or >> at least uncover an important clue to an ancestor's past. >> >> Marvin Hoerig >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Peter Elias" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 10:34 PM >> To: <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [BW] RAAB Index >> >>> http://www.amazon.com/Heinrich-Raab/e/B001K75GL0 >>> >>> Peter Elias >>> >>> On 2012.03.16, at 11:20 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>> >>>> Does anyone know what "Rabb's Index" is? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> Peter Elias >>> ************ >>> >>> http://petereliasmd.com >>> http://www.pheski.smugmug.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message