Stuart, You failed to mention the time frame when your ancestor immigrated thru the Port of New Orleans. Before railroad lines were completed, the cheapest and most efficient way to travel was by water. I Agree with. other posters, that going up the Mississippi River to Cincinnati, via the Ohio River, makes perfect sense. It's quite possible that passage from Europe to New Orleans was the cheapest fare at the time. (Think back to Lewis & Clark and the Corps of Discovery; they used river systems in the early19 th century while exploring the Louisiana Purchase.) Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on AT&T ----- Reply message ----- From: [email protected] To: <[email protected]> Subject: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 7, Issue 89 Date: Tue, Mar 20, 2012 6:38 pm Today's Topics: 1. Re: Itzin (Mike Itzin) 2. Re: Muhr on the list (Karen Moore) 3. Re: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 7, Issue 86 (Craig Gauger) 4. Re: Muhr on the list (Helen) 5. Re: Muhr on the list (Karen Moore) 6. Re: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 7, Issue 86 (Mike Singer) 7. Re: Muhr on the list (Helen) 8. Re: Muhr on the list (Karen Moore) 9. Re: New Orleans to Cincinnati (Fred H Held) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 18:46:44 -0500 From: Mike Itzin <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BW] Itzin To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Thanks Marvin. This is my GG Grandfather. He was next found in Burlington, Racine, Wisconsin as a Carpenter in late 1849. Great Find. Mike At 11:37 AM 3/20/2012, you wrote: >Mike, > >This is the only one on the prisoners list: > >Marvin Hoerig in WI > > >Name--------------------- Itzin, Georg >Birth Place--------------- >Record-------------------- 40000021871 >Number------------------- 15746 >Name Variation-------- >Residence---------------- Bellingen >Profession---------------- >Sex------------------------ m >Nationality---------------- D >Age------------------------- >Year Incarcerated--------- 1848 >Country of Origin-------- Baden >Region--------------------- M?llheim >Revolutionary Army------ >Militia---------------------- >Single----------------------- >Married--------------------- >Biography------------------ Der Beteiligung am Struveaufstand im September >1848 beschuldigt (305 / 73: 69). >-------------------------------------------------- >From: "Mike Itzin" <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 5:54 PM >To: <[email protected]> >Subject: [BW] RAAB Index Lookup request > > > Marvin, > > > > When you get a chance, please see if you have anything on " Itzin " > > Thanks > > > > Mike Itzin > > 7949 Idaho Ave N > > Brooklyn Park, MN 55445-2614 > > USA > > [email protected] > > 763-566-4094 > > Cell 612-251-4557 > > Fax 763-566-1746 > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to [email protected] >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message [email protected] ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:06:29 -0400 From: Karen Moore <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BW] Muhr on the list To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]om> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear Marvin, I'd like to try the other side of my family, if I may. Please try Fullmer / Volmer / Vollmer - first name John (or Johann). Thank you again for your generosity. Karen Moore in NJ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 00:22:11 +0000 From: Craig Gauger <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BW] BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 7, Issue 86 To: B-W Roots Web <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Back then that was a reasonable way to get there as the primary mode of travel was by water. The Mississippi River is joined by the Ohio River and goes right by Cincinnati. C > From: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 15:01:18 -0700 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BW] BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 7, Issue 86 > > I have a couple of emigration records of possible ancestors living (in their time) in Cincinnati, OH that allegedly came from Baden to New Orleans before ending up in Cincinnati. But I have been very skeptical that someone would emigrate to Cincinnati through New Orleans: New York or Philadelphia would seem far more reasonable, but I have so far not found similar records of family members coming through those ports. > > Does anyone on this list have reason to accept such a claim? Why would someone travel from New Orleans to Cincinnati to settle when there were so many other more convenient towns along the way to homestead? > > -Stuart > > > > I have trying to find out where in Baden, Germany my gGrandfather, Valentin Mueller was born. He was born Jan. 1835, he left Germany for la Harve, France around 1855 and came to the United States through New Orleans, La. He arrived in Jan. 1857. He made his way to St Louis, Mo. He settled there, married Henreitta Gihr, they had seven children, he had a dairy farm. > > He died in St. Louis in 1906. > > Bill Mueller > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:22:52 -0400 From: "Helen" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BW] Muhr on the list To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Karen - was your John Vollmer in NJ? ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:33:12 -0400 From: Karen Moore <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BW] Muhr on the list To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]om> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear Helen: I have 5 John Fullmer's in my tree. My Fullmer's started out in Wilmington, Delaware (4th ggrandfather was John Fullmer who died in DE in 1828), moved to Beverly, Massachusetts circa 1868, and then to Philadelphia circa 1880. One great grand uncle John Fullmer did move to NJ and died in Riverside in 1940. His wife was Jeanne Wood, AKA Jennie. None of the records I have found list the name as Vollmer - all my records are Fullmer. Any match? Regards, Karen Moore On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Helen <[email protected]> wrote: > Karen - was your John Vollmer in NJ? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 19:37:38 -0500 From: "Mike Singer" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BW] BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 7, Issue 86 To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" As late as the Civil War steam ships would come out of Shreveport travel south 250+ miles to New Orleans on the Red River then head north to St Louis on the Mississippi. FYI The Colorado, Ohio, and Missouri rivers flow into the Mississippi River then travel to New Orleans. One can cover quite a bit of country on the Mississipi. Mike -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Craig Gauger Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 7:22 PM To: B-W Roots Web Subject: Re: [BW] BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 7, Issue 86 Back then that was a reasonable way to get there as the primary mode of travel was by water. The Mississippi River is joined by the Ohio River and goes right by Cincinnati. C > From: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 15:01:18 -0700 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BW] BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 7, Issue 86 > > I have a couple of emigration records of possible ancestors living (in their time) in Cincinnati, OH that allegedly came from Baden to New Orleans before ending up in Cincinnati. But I have been very skeptical that someone would emigrate to Cincinnati through New Orleans: New York or Philadelphia would seem far more reasonable, but I have so far not found similar records of family members coming through those ports. > > Does anyone on this list have reason to accept such a claim? Why would someone travel from New Orleans to Cincinnati to settle when there were so many other more convenient towns along the way to homestead? > > -Stuart > > > > I have trying to find out where in Baden, Germany my gGrandfather, Valentin Mueller was born. He was born Jan. 1835, he left Germany for la Harve, France around 1855 and came to the United States through New Orleans, La. He arrived in Jan. 1857. He made his way to St Louis, Mo. He settled there, married Henreitta Gihr, they had seven children, he had a dairy farm. > > He died in St. Louis in 1906. > > Bill Mueller > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 21:14:56 -0400 From: "Helen" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BW] Muhr on the list To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Karen, No, it doesn't look like it. Shucks! I am in NJ, too, and I have a John Vollmer in Newark. He was from Birkenfeld, W?rttemberg. He married Christiana Wolfinger, who was also from Birkenfeld and her sister, Justina, was my 2G-grandmother. Was hoping I had found a cousin. Helen ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 21:33:10 -0400 From: Karen Moore <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BW] Muhr on the list To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]om> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Helen, It's interesting, but of all the cousins I have been able to make contact with, only two or three had a Fullmer relative somewhere in my line and none of them have the surname Fullmer. Especially with all of the Fullmer's who lived in DE and PA, you'd think I'd be able to find a Fullmer descendant. Someday, perhaps? My Fullmer line appears to have originated in Hesse Darmstadt. Take care, Karen On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Helen <[email protected]> wrote: > Karen, > > No, it doesn't look like it. Shucks! I am in NJ, too, and I have a John > Vollmer in Newark. He was from Birkenfeld, W?rttemberg. He married > Christiana Wolfinger, who was also from Birkenfeld and her sister, Justina, > was my 2G-grandmother. Was hoping I had found a cousin. > > Helen > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:38:09 -0500 From: Fred H Held <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BW] New Orleans to Cincinnati To: [email protected], Stuart Bechman <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Stuart, Depending on the era, river travel or wagon was the only way. There were many riverboats up the Mississippi and Ohio Rivers until the late 1800s. He probably went there because there was family there. At 06:43 PM 3/20/2012, you wrote: >From: Stuart Bechman <[email protected]> > >I have a couple of emigration records of possible ancestors living >(in their time) in Cincinnati, OH that allegedly came from Baden to >New Orleans before ending up in Cincinnati. But I have been very >skeptical that someone would emigrate to Cincinnati through New >Orleans: New York or Philadelphia would seem far more reasonable, >but I have so far not found similar records of family members coming >through those ports. > >Does anyone on this list have reason to accept such a claim? Why >would someone travel from New Orleans to Cincinnati to settle when >there were so many other more convenient towns along the way to homestead? > >-Stuart ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4f6930fe61c4923c7bdast05vuc ------------------------------ To contact the BADEN-WURTTEMBERG list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the BADEN-WURTTEMBERG mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 7, Issue 89 ************************************************