Hello Sue, Thank you for asking, always interested in another Appel researcher. However, I have been unable to go back in years as you have. The oldest names we have are Charles born about 1832/33 and Heinrich born 1839 and confirmed 1849 in a Alt St. Peter's Church, but don't know where the church is located, U.S. or Germany. As I had written, the 1880 NYC census stated Heidelberg as to where Charles was born. I have been at a brick wall for many years. Jeanne C. Appel