Marvin, Where is this "Lit" and mention of Müller, Leonhard? I don't see it on the record. C > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:20:06 -0500 > Subject: Re: [BW] RE Raba Index > > Craig, > > I have no more than the list itself and have no idea where information can > be found for the referenced page numbers. Most, if not all records have > some sort of pages referenced in the bios. > > As I mentioned to Elizabeth, on her Jean Jose Jansen record the name > Leonhard Müller noted in a box labeled "Lit". This box seldom has had an > entry and I have only seen it a few times. I hesitate to mention it when it > does occur because I can't explain it to people when they question it's > meaning. I like to include everything when I answer requests but this "Lit" > entry has me puzzled. Can you explain what it could be ? > > Marvin Hoerig in WI > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Craig Gauger" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 5:37 AM > To: "B-W Roots Web" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [BW] RE Raab Index > > > > > It also states he was a political rebel and wanted for quite some time. > > In June 1849 he was with a Mannheim resistance group and as Adjutant for > > Hochsachsen. On 15 July 1849 he was imprisoned at Heidelberg as a > > political rebel. On 14 August 1849 he was a prisoner at the Rastatter > > Fort A because of a war betrayal. > > > > Though this biography in German below is short, he probably believed he > > and his comrades were patriots against an unjust enemy. > > > > I'm guessing there is more to read by the references to page numbers in > > the text. I don't know if Marvin has any more knowledge as to where these > > can be viewed. C > > > > > > > >> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 19:14:26 +1100 > >> From: [email protected] > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [BW] RE Raab Index > >> > >> Hello Craig, > >> > >> Thank you, a sad ending for Jean Josef Jansen. > >> > >> Elizabeth > >> > >> On 29/03/2012 1:04 PM, Craig Gauger wrote: > >> > > >> > It states in the German text that he was shot at 7 am on 20 Oct 1849. > >> > > >> > > >> >> From: [email protected] > >> >> To: [email protected] > >> >> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:46:16 -0500 > >> >> Subject: Re: [BW] RE Raab Index > >> >> > >> >> Elizabeth, > >> >> > >> >> This is one of the most complete records I have seen. Whenever there > >> >> is a > >> >> death place and date I always wonder how prisoners were treated once > >> >> incarcerated. There are not many records listing deaths so I hope this > >> >> guy > >> >> came to prison in pretty bad shape, hence his death while there. > >> >> Unfortunately, his bio puts to rest the reason for his death in > >> >> prison. > >> >> > >> >> Also, there is a box in all these records that I have never seen > >> >> filled in > >> >> before this. This record shows the name in the box > >> >> which > >> >> is titled "Lit". I have no idea what Lit stands for and assume it to > >> >> be an > >> >> abbreviation of some sort but wonder who Leonhard Müller is and how he > >> >> is > >> >> connected to Jean Josef Jansen. > >> >> > >> >> Marvin Hoerig in WI > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Name-------------------Jansen, Jean Josef > >> >> Birth Date ------------- 00.00.1825 > >> >> Birth Place------------ > >> >> Death Date ------------ 20.10.1849 > >> >> Death Place ----------- Rastatt > >> >> Record----------------- 40000022085 > >> >> Number---------------- 15882 > >> >> Name Variation-------- Janzen > >> >> Residence------------- Köln > >> >> Profession------------- Geometer > >> >> Sex--------------------- m > >> >> Nationality------------- D > >> >> Age--------------------- 24 > >> >> Year Incarcerated----- 1849 > >> >> Country of Origin----- Preußen > >> >> Region----------------- > >> >> Revolutionary Army--Militia----------------- > >> >> Single------------------ > >> >> Married---------------- > >> >> Biography------------- Bei der Mannheimer Volkswehr (65 / 11597*: 55). > >> >> Im > >> >> Juni 1849 als Adjutant in Hohensachsen (276 / 3417: 166). Am 21. und > >> >> 22. > >> >> Juni 1849 mit der Mannheimer Volkswehr in Ladenburg (N Mone Nr. 26*: > >> >> 87). > >> >> Die Behörden wollten im Juni 'auf Jansen das Hauptaugenmerk richten' > >> >> (234 / > >> >> 10210*: 7). Am 15. Juli 1849 als politischer 'Rebell' im Gefängnis in > >> >> Heidelberg (236 / 8561*: 14). Gefangener im Rastatter Fort A, wegen > >> >> Kriegsverrats am 14. August 1849 vom Standgericht zum Tod durch > >> >> Erschießen > >> >> verurteilt und am 20. Oktober 1849 um sieben Uhr morgens erschossen > >> >> (65 / > >> >> 11597*: 55; N Mone Nr. 26*: 87, 96-97, 177, 180, 186-187, 193 f, Nr. > >> >> 28: 37, > >> >> 102). > >> >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Craig, I don't list it because it is so seldom used. If the Lit box has an entry, I add it to the standard list I send out. There are 36 boxes in each records plus a bio box. The majority of those boxes are never used. If there is an entry in a box on a record, I add it to my list for the person requesting info. I even include obvious errors like, MARRIED - "Yes", followed by SINGLE - "Yes" (fortunately neither of these two boxes are used very often) Most often I do not know if listed information is of value or not (hence all the numbers in the bio) but I always include everything in the hopes that therein may lie that elusive clue that will help someone out. Marvin Hoerig in WI ------------------------------------------ From: "Craig Gauger" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 5:23 PM To: "B-W Roots Web" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BW] RE Raba Index > > Marvin, Where is this "Lit" and mention of Müller, Leonhard? I don't > see it on the record. C > > >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:20:06 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [BW] RE Raba Index >> >> Craig, >> >> I have no more than the list itself and have no idea where information >> can >> be found for the referenced page numbers. Most, if not all records have >> some sort of pages referenced in the bios. >> >> As I mentioned to Elizabeth, on her Jean Jose Jansen record the name >> Leonhard Müller noted in a box labeled "Lit". This box seldom has had an >> entry and I have only seen it a few times. I hesitate to mention it when >> it >> does occur because I can't explain it to people when they question it's >> meaning. I like to include everything when I answer requests but this >> "Lit" >> entry has me puzzled. Can you explain what it could be ? >> >> Marvin Hoerig in WI >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Craig Gauger" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 5:37 AM >> To: "B-W Roots Web" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [BW] RE Raab Index >> >> > >> > It also states he was a political rebel and wanted for quite some time. >> > In June 1849 he was with a Mannheim resistance group and as Adjutant >> > for >> > Hochsachsen. On 15 July 1849 he was imprisoned at Heidelberg as a >> > political rebel. On 14 August 1849 he was a prisoner at the Rastatter >> > Fort A because of a war betrayal. >> > >> > Though this biography in German below is short, he probably believed he >> > and his comrades were patriots against an unjust enemy. >> > >> > I'm guessing there is more to read by the references to page numbers in >> > the text. I don't know if Marvin has any more knowledge as to where >> > these >> > can be viewed. C >> > >> > >> > >> >> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 19:14:26 +1100 >> >> From: [email protected] >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Subject: Re: [BW] RE Raab Index >> >> >> >> Hello Craig, >> >> >> >> Thank you, a sad ending for Jean Josef Jansen. >> >> >> >> Elizabeth >> >> >> >> On 29/03/2012 1:04 PM, Craig Gauger wrote: >> >> > >> >> > It states in the German text that he was shot at 7 am on 20 Oct >> >> > 1849. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> From: [email protected] >> >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> >> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:46:16 -0500 >> >> >> Subject: Re: [BW] RE Raab Index >> >> >> >> >> >> Elizabeth, >> >> >> >> >> >> This is one of the most complete records I have seen. Whenever >> >> >> there >> >> >> is a >> >> >> death place and date I always wonder how prisoners were treated >> >> >> once >> >> >> incarcerated. There are not many records listing deaths so I hope >> >> >> this >> >> >> guy >> >> >> came to prison in pretty bad shape, hence his death while there. >> >> >> Unfortunately, his bio puts to rest the reason for his death in >> >> >> prison. >> >> >> >> >> >> Also, there is a box in all these records that I have never seen >> >> >> filled in >> >> >> before this. This record shows the name in the box >> >> >> which >> >> >> is titled "Lit". I have no idea what Lit stands for and assume it >> >> >> to >> >> >> be an >> >> >> abbreviation of some sort but wonder who Leonhard Müller is and how >> >> >> he >> >> >> is >> >> >> connected to Jean Josef Jansen. >> >> >> >> >> >> Marvin Hoerig in WI >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Name-------------------Jansen, Jean Josef >> >> >> Birth Date ------------- 00.00.1825 >> >> >> Birth Place------------ >> >> >> Death Date ------------ 20.10.1849 >> >> >> Death Place ----------- Rastatt >> >> >> Record----------------- 40000022085 >> >> >> Number---------------- 15882 >> >> >> Name Variation-------- Janzen >> >> >> Residence------------- Köln >> >> >> Profession------------- Geometer >> >> >> Sex--------------------- m >> >> >> Nationality------------- D >> >> >> Age--------------------- 24 >> >> >> Year Incarcerated----- 1849 >> >> >> Country of Origin----- Preußen >> >> >> Region----------------- >> >> >> Revolutionary Army--Militia----------------- >> >> >> Single------------------ >> >> >> Married---------------- >> >> >> Biography------------- Bei der Mannheimer Volkswehr (65 / 11597*: >> >> >> 55). >> >> >> Im >> >> >> Juni 1849 als Adjutant in Hohensachsen (276 / 3417: 166). Am 21. >> >> >> und >> >> >> 22. >> >> >> Juni 1849 mit der Mannheimer Volkswehr in Ladenburg (N Mone Nr. >> >> >> 26*: >> >> >> 87). >> >> >> Die Behörden wollten im Juni 'auf Jansen das Hauptaugenmerk >> >> >> richten' >> >> >> (234 / >> >> >> 10210*: 7). Am 15. Juli 1849 als politischer 'Rebell' im Gefängnis >> >> >> in >> >> >> Heidelberg (236 / 8561*: 14). Gefangener im Rastatter Fort A, wegen >> >> >> Kriegsverrats am 14. August 1849 vom Standgericht zum Tod durch >> >> >> Erschießen >> >> >> verurteilt und am 20. Oktober 1849 um sieben Uhr morgens erschossen >> >> >> (65 / >> >> >> 11597*: 55; N Mone Nr. 26*: 87, 96-97, 177, 180, 186-187, 193 f, >> >> >> Nr. >> >> >> 28: 37, >> >> >> 102). >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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