It's going to take *lots* of guesswork, but often people coming to the US adopted (or were given by customs officials) anglicized versions of their name, or names that sounded like their name. Kran is one possibility. Another: an umlauted a in German sounds like he a in Crane is English. Can anyone think of a name similar? But its going to take lots of luck. It's sort of asking "I have a relative Bob Jones who comes from the US - maybe Kansas or Iowa . Anyone know where he might be from or more about him?" > -----Original Message----- > From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of baden-wurttemberg- > request@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 12:01 AM > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Subject: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 8, Issue 198 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Adolphus Crane (Ruth Kittner) > 2. Re: Adolphus Crane (Dieter Joos) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 16:49:01 -0500 > From: Ruth Kittner <ruthann001@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAHOFUiOWAuC_50ECh6j_sJetUnGXDW6Vhr1yT7dZ4VMCG8DTkQ@mail.gmail.c > om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > well, Crane....sounds like Kran or Kranich? Krin, Krahen, Kranen, > Kroehn, or......Dieter....can you help out here? > > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 2:26 PM, <dlculhane@cs.com> wrote: > > > Thanks, Dieter, but figuring out his original name is part of my > > problem, alas! Are baptismal records for those princedoms on line? > > > > Diane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dieter Joos <djoos@dieter-joos.de> > > To: baden-wurttemberg <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sat, Dec 21, 2013 1:13 pm > > Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane > > > > > > Ruth and Diana, > > > > after the revolution 1848 the two adjacent princedoms > > Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen and Hohenzollern-Hechingen, at the south > > border of Wuerttemberg, were integrated into the Prussian Kingdom in > 1850. > > Contrary to Prussia which basically is of protestant denomination, > the > > two princedoms were Catholic. > > > > BTW Crane is not a German family name. So the first step should be to > > find out what the original German family name of Adolphus Crane was > like. > > > > Regards > > Dieter > > > > -- > > Dieter Joos > > Ueberlingen / Bodensee, Germany > > Webmaster of RootsWeb's Baden-Wuerttemberg Mailing List > > > > > > Am 21.12.2013 17:40, schrieb Ruth Kittner: > > > Diane, did you look in the Wuerttemberg immigration index? And did > > > you look in the Baltimore naturalization records? Also, if the > > > sources conflict on Prussia or Wuerttemberg, you might see if there > > > is a > > territory > > > that switched between the two states. I don't know of one offhand, > > > but > > our > > > German friends might. Ruth > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 9:58 AM, <dlculhane@cs.com> wrote: > > > > > >> I'm new to this list, and to German genealogy. I'm trying to help > > >> my brother-in-law trace some of his ancestors, including Adolphus > > >> Peter > > Crane, > > >> who was born in Germany (some sources say Prussia, other > > >> Wurttemberg) in 1836, emigrated to America in 1859, and became a > > >> harnessmaker in > > Baltimore. > > >> There was a shoemaker of about the same age named Joseph Crane, > > possibly a > > >> relative. Adolphus was a Catholic, and his death record says his > > >> father > > was > > >> Anthony. Does this family sound familiar to anyone? > > >> > > >> Diane in Illinois > > >> > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > > body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 00:42:19 +0100 > From: Dieter Joos <djoos@dieter-joos.de> > Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <52B6275B.10506@dieter-joos.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Diane, > > there are records online for certain regions of Baden-Wuerttemberg. > > But I'm afraid you have to do first some research homework in US like > checking census records, ship-lists, immigration records, parish > records etc in order to find out the German name and the German birth > location. > Without a certain minimum of useful information a research in Germany > is without any chance. > > Dieter > > Am 21.12.2013 20:26, schrieb dlculhane@cs.com: > > Thanks, Dieter, but figuring out his original name is part of my > problem, alas! Are baptismal records for those princedoms on line? > > > > Diane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dieter Joos <djoos@dieter-joos.de> > > To: baden-wurttemberg <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sat, Dec 21, 2013 1:13 pm > > Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane > > > > > > Ruth and Diana, > > > > after the revolution 1848 the two adjacent princedoms > > Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen and Hohenzollern-Hechingen, at the south > > border of Wuerttemberg, were integrated into the Prussian Kingdom in > 1850. > > Contrary to Prussia which basically is of protestant denomination, > the > > two princedoms were Catholic. > > > > BTW Crane is not a German family name. So the first step should be to > > find out what the original German family name of Adolphus Crane was > like. > > > > Regards > > Dieter > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BADEN-WURTTEMBERG list administrator, send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BADEN-WURTTEMBERG mailing list, send an email > to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN- > WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the email with no additional text. > > > End of BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 8, Issue 198 > *************************************************

To make things worse, I learned on the 1870 census he said he came from Bremen! Diane -----Original Message----- From: Lee Bruch <LBruch@nwlink.com> To: baden-wurttemberg <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Dec 22, 2013 6:42 pm Subject: Re: [BW] BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 8, Issue 198 It's going to take *lots* of guesswork, but often people coming to the US adopted (or were given by customs officials) anglicized versions of their name, or names that sounded like their name. Kran is one possibility. Another: an umlauted a in German sounds like he a in Crane is English. Can anyone think of a name similar? But its going to take lots of luck. It's sort of asking "I have a relative Bob Jones who comes from the US - maybe Kansas or Iowa . Anyone know where he might be from or more about him?" > -----Original Message----- > From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of baden-wurttemberg- > request@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 12:01 AM > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Subject: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 8, Issue 198 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Adolphus Crane (Ruth Kittner) > 2. Re: Adolphus Crane (Dieter Joos) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 16:49:01 -0500 > From: Ruth Kittner <ruthann001@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAHOFUiOWAuC_50ECh6j_sJetUnGXDW6Vhr1yT7dZ4VMCG8DTkQ@mail.gmail.c > om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > well, Crane....sounds like Kran or Kranich? Krin, Krahen, Kranen, > Kroehn, or......Dieter....can you help out here? > > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 2:26 PM, <dlculhane@cs.com> wrote: > > > Thanks, Dieter, but figuring out his original name is part of my > > problem, alas! Are baptismal records for those princedoms on line? > > > > Diane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dieter Joos <djoos@dieter-joos.de> > > To: baden-wurttemberg <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sat, Dec 21, 2013 1:13 pm > > Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane > > > > > > Ruth and Diana, > > > > after the revolution 1848 the two adjacent princedoms > > Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen and Hohenzollern-Hechingen, at the south > > border of Wuerttemberg, were integrated into the Prussian Kingdom in > 1850. > > Contrary to Prussia which basically is of protestant denomination, > the > > two princedoms were Catholic. > > > > BTW Crane is not a German family name. So the first step should be to > > find out what the original German family name of Adolphus Crane was > like. > > > > Regards > > Dieter > > > > -- > > Dieter Joos > > Ueberlingen / Bodensee, Germany > > Webmaster of RootsWeb's Baden-Wuerttemberg Mailing List > > > > > > Am 21.12.2013 17:40, schrieb Ruth Kittner: > > > Diane, did you look in the Wuerttemberg immigration index? And did > > > you look in the Baltimore naturalization records? Also, if the > > > sources conflict on Prussia or Wuerttemberg, you might see if there > > > is a > > territory > > > that switched between the two states. I don't know of one offhand, > > > but > > our > > > German friends might. Ruth > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 9:58 AM, <dlculhane@cs.com> wrote: > > > > > >> I'm new to this list, and to German genealogy. I'm trying to help > > >> my brother-in-law trace some of his ancestors, including Adolphus > > >> Peter > > Crane, > > >> who was born in Germany (some sources say Prussia, other > > >> Wurttemberg) in 1836, emigrated to America in 1859, and became a > > >> harnessmaker in > > Baltimore. > > >> There was a shoemaker of about the same age named Joseph Crane, > > possibly a > > >> relative. Adolphus was a Catholic, and his death record says his > > >> father > > was > > >> Anthony. Does this family sound familiar to anyone? > > >> > > >> Diane in Illinois > > >> > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > > body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 00:42:19 +0100 > From: Dieter Joos <djoos@dieter-joos.de> > Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <52B6275B.10506@dieter-joos.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Diane, > > there are records online for certain regions of Baden-Wuerttemberg. > > But I'm afraid you have to do first some research homework in US like > checking census records, ship-lists, immigration records, parish > records etc in order to find out the German name and the German birth > location. > Without a certain minimum of useful information a research in Germany > is without any chance. > > Dieter > > Am 21.12.2013 20:26, schrieb dlculhane@cs.com: > > Thanks, Dieter, but figuring out his original name is part of my > problem, alas! Are baptismal records for those princedoms on line? > > > > Diane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dieter Joos <djoos@dieter-joos.de> > > To: baden-wurttemberg <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sat, Dec 21, 2013 1:13 pm > > Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane > > > > > > Ruth and Diana, > > > > after the revolution 1848 the two adjacent princedoms > > Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen and Hohenzollern-Hechingen, at the south > > border of Wuerttemberg, were integrated into the Prussian Kingdom in > 1850. > > Contrary to Prussia which basically is of protestant denomination, > the > > two princedoms were Catholic. > > > > BTW Crane is not a German family name. So the first step should be to > > find out what the original German family name of Adolphus Crane was > like. > > > > Regards > > Dieter > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BADEN-WURTTEMBERG list administrator, send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BADEN-WURTTEMBERG mailing list, send an email > to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN- > WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the email with no additional text. > > > End of BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 8, Issue 198 > ************************************************* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message