Tom Great info! I was wondering how you found someone in BW to research the emigration records. I know the places they emigrated from but would love to learn more. Thanks Dottie Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 13, 2014, at 7:31 AM, Tom Kuehn <kuehngenes@gmail.com> wrote: > > For water transportation in the USA pre-1860, you might want to review "The > Geography of Transport > Systems<http://people.hofstra.edu/geotrans/eng/ch2en/conc2en/map_american_canals_19th.html>" > which discusses American Canals in 19th century. A local Family History > Center volunteer identified this resource when I was trying to figure out > how one of my ancestors got from Philadelphia to St. Louis. If you have a > nearby Family History Center (check familysearch.org) the can be very > helpful. I have spent much time the last 3 years there looking at old > microfilms of German church book records. > > Two of my ancestor families came from BW. > > 1) Kühn requested to emigrate in Feb 1852 from Ötigheim, Baden, departed Le > Havre, France aboard SS Venice, arriving in New Orleans in Jun 1852; > traveled up Mississippi to St. Louis area. > > 2) Rist requested to emigrate in Jan 1854 from Altdorf (now Weingarten), > Württemberg, probably left via Le Havre, but sailed out of Liverpool, > England aboard SS City of Manchester and arrived in Philadelphia Apr 1854; > traveled via canals to Ohio River, then down the Ohio River to or near the > Mississippi River to reach upstream St. Louis area. > > My journey began by learning their immigration periods from US Census > records, and then finding them in Passenger Lists. > > You might also try the Wuerttemberg, Germany Emigration Index to find out > when your ancestor requested emigration.This information is then helpful in > finding information from where they emigrated, the local process there, and > the value of their possessions when they left. > > If you are fortunate enough to find someone in Germany who can help, the > local records there often have emigration related papers. Through this, I > learned that my 3G-Grandparents had to petition the state for the early > release from military duty of my 2G-Grandfather so that he too could > emigrate. > > Good luck in your search. > Tom > > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 2:11 AM, Dorothy A. Sanders <odissanders@cox.net>wrote: > >> My ancestors from the BW area came into New Orleans, La. >> When you look at the ships manifest, there were many from BW. >> Dot >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Stuart Bechman" <sbechman@sbcglobal.net> >> To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:05 PM >> Subject: Re: [BW] BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 9, Issue 39 >> >> >> It would likely depend on where they were headed and when they travelled. >> >> Prior to 1860, the most efficient transportation routes across / through >> the >> US were by water, even to places that we wouldn't imagine travelling by >> water today. For instance, my ancestor from Rastatt, Baden came to >> Cincinnatti, Ohio in 1830 by way of New Orleans and travelling up the >> Mississippi and Ohio Rivers. But my original presumption that they arrived >> in New York or Philadelphia and then crossed by land to Ohio kept me >> blocked >> from any research breakthroughs until a very wise and kind someone pointed >> that out to me. >> >> -Stuart >> >> >> Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 12:12:17 -0500 >> >> From: Deloris Girard <delorisegcltd@gmail.com> >>> Subject: [BW] Bringardner Surname >>> To: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com >>> >>> I am trying to find the port of arrival my ancestor arrived US from Baben, >>> Baden. >>> >>> Any suggestions? >>> >>> Deloris >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dottie, I just got lucky. A person in Northern Germany found my website and contacted me about a sister-in-law to one of my ancestors. We exchanged information, and struck up a friendship. He was instrumental in interceding on my behalf, contacting a researcher in Baden, and then he also contacted a museum that covered Weingarten archives. And he helped translate the old German script. I would not know how to find a person to help, and how to communicate with them. In my efforts, the person in Germany writes to me in German and I respond in English and it works out quite well - thanks to translation software. The trick is reading the old German script and rewriting it in current German. Baden script I could not read, but Weingarten is not as difficult. Bottom line, the person found me because he found value in what I had posted publicly of my website. I reciprocated by helping him with USA research, and I sent him a book published associated with church in Southwestern Missouri that had stories about the German immigrants including the one he had inquired about. The real trick is that you have to find the place your ancestor came from - which I did know from cemetery and other records in the St. Louis area. Working backward got me to Germany. It is all pick and shovel work! The most important thing is to find the town they come from in Germany. Obituary records often help, but what is listed as from Germany, is sometimes Alsace-Lorraine because the person died while that area was occupied by Germany. Then searching church book records page by page (no index) you can find family members. Another tool that I learned of from the local Family History Center is a series of books called "Map Guide to German Parish Registers: Kingdom of Württemberg by Kevan M. Hansen. It maps out the Districts of the Kingdom with Parish / Town Cross reference tables for each completed district. Not all districts are completed yet. The two districts I was interested in were: Donaukreis (which includes Ravensburg -> Weingarten), and Neckarkreis (which includes Grand Duchy of Baden). As I recall the maps relate to the 1871 timeframe for Kingdom of Württemberg. Hope that helps. Tom On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Dottie Klein <scubamama@aol.com> wrote: > Tom > Great info! I was wondering how you found someone in BW to research the > emigration records. I know the places they emigrated from but would love to > learn more. > Thanks > Dottie > > Sent from my iPhone > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >