Hi Glen, Looks like I found him. A Philipp Stolz emigrated in 1852 with the whole family to America. The family is from Teutschneureut, which is now a suburb of Karlsruhe/Baden . Take a look: www.auswanderer-bw.de On the right click "English" Then on left: "Search for emigrants" Klick "Standard" "Last name" just type : Stolz, nothing else And then klick "Search data" You also can take a look at www.karlsruhe.de. Klick on the left "Stadt and Tourismus", there you klick "Stadtteile", then klick "Neureut". There were two villages north of Karlsruhe, one was Welschneureut and the other Teutschneureut, in 1935 they were combined and then named just Neureut. In 1972 Neureut was incorporated into the city of Karlsruhe. You lucky, you. Have a nice Sunday. Greetings from Stuttgart/Germany Erika -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von Glen Frederick Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. September 2008 09:48 An: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com Betreff: [BW] Inquiry I am researching the Stolz name from Baden. Philip Jacob Stolz was born there 7 Jun 1838. His father, also Philip Jacob Stolz was born approximately 1811. The son immigrated about 1852 and settled in Stevenson CO. IL. The father may have immigrated at that time also. I do not find the family in the census until 1880 in Seward CO. NE. They had moved there about 1874. I don't know why they cannot be found in the 1850, 1860 or 1870 census. Are there searchable church records for the Baden area? Any information you can give me about this family in Baden or in the early years in Illinois would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Glen A Frederick ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Erica, Thanks so much for this information. A couple questions if you don't mind. I found the Philip Stolz that immigrated in 1852, but how do you know that he immigrated with the whole family? When I look at the individual entry it says under comments "mit der Familie". I do not speak or read German but I assume this says something to the effect with his family. Where can I see who that family was? Also the other site you mentioned while I am sure would be interesting and helpful appears to be only in German. I really appreciate your kind help and any other information you could give me would be greatly appreciated. Glen A Frederick -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Erika Lanz Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 6:57 AM To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BW] Inquiry Hi Glen, Looks like I found him. A Philipp Stolz emigrated in 1852 with the whole family to America. The family is from Teutschneureut, which is now a suburb of Karlsruhe/Baden . Take a look: www.auswanderer-bw.de On the right click "English" Then on left: "Search for emigrants" Klick "Standard" "Last name" just type : Stolz, nothing else And then klick "Search data" You also can take a look at www.karlsruhe.de. Klick on the left "Stadt and Tourismus", there you klick "Stadtteile", then klick "Neureut". There were two villages north of Karlsruhe, one was Welschneureut and the other Teutschneureut, in 1935 they were combined and then named just Neureut. In 1972 Neureut was incorporated into the city of Karlsruhe. You lucky, you. Have a nice Sunday. Greetings from Stuttgart/Germany Erika -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von Glen Frederick Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. September 2008 09:48 An: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com Betreff: [BW] Inquiry I am researching the Stolz name from Baden. Philip Jacob Stolz was born there 7 Jun 1838. His father, also Philip Jacob Stolz was born approximately 1811. The son immigrated about 1852 and settled in Stevenson CO. IL. The father may have immigrated at that time also. I do not find the family in the census until 1880 in Seward CO. NE. They had moved there about 1874. I don't know why they cannot be found in the 1850, 1860 or 1870 census. Are there searchable church records for the Baden area? Any information you can give me about this family in Baden or in the early years in Illinois would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Glen A Frederick ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Glen, Yes, you are right, "mit der Familie" means with the family. I would suggest to get the films from your local LDS center from Teutschneureut. When you search for the place name type Neureut, there you will get a Neureut north and Neureut south, get the Neureut north. Philipps emigration papers are kept in the General-Landes-Archiv Karlsruhe with the number 280091. I don't know if they would look up the file for you. Shall I call them? The information on his emigration also should be mentioned on the film, if you do find his name there. On IGI I think I found his father: Johann Philipp Stolz, born abt. 1807 in Teutschneureut, married abt. 1843 also in Teutschneutreut a Barbara Meinzer born 20 Nov. 1811. Regards Erika -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von Glen Frederick Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. September 2008 23:22 An: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Betreff: Re: [BW] Inquiry Hi Erica, Thanks so much for this information. A couple questions if you don't mind. I found the Philip Stolz that immigrated in 1852, but how do you know that he immigrated with the whole family? When I look at the individual entry it says under comments "mit der Familie". I do not speak or read German but I assume this says something to the effect with his family. Where can I see who that family was? Also the other site you mentioned while I am sure would be interesting and helpful appears to be only in German. I really appreciate your kind help and any other information you could give me would be greatly appreciated. Glen A Frederick -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Erika Lanz Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 6:57 AM To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BW] Inquiry Hi Glen, Looks like I found him. A Philipp Stolz emigrated in 1852 with the whole family to America. The family is from Teutschneureut, which is now a suburb of Karlsruhe/Baden . Take a look: www.auswanderer-bw.de On the right click "English" Then on left: "Search for emigrants" Klick "Standard" "Last name" just type : Stolz, nothing else And then klick "Search data" You also can take a look at www.karlsruhe.de. Klick on the left "Stadt and Tourismus", there you klick "Stadtteile", then klick "Neureut". There were two villages north of Karlsruhe, one was Welschneureut and the other Teutschneureut, in 1935 they were combined and then named just Neureut. In 1972 Neureut was incorporated into the city of Karlsruhe. You lucky, you. Have a nice Sunday. Greetings from Stuttgart/Germany Erika -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von Glen Frederick Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. September 2008 09:48 An: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com Betreff: [BW] Inquiry I am researching the Stolz name from Baden. Philip Jacob Stolz was born there 7 Jun 1838. His father, also Philip Jacob Stolz was born approximately 1811. The son immigrated about 1852 and settled in Stevenson CO. IL. The father may have immigrated at that time also. I do not find the family in the census until 1880 in Seward CO. NE. They had moved there about 1874. I don't know why they cannot be found in the 1850, 1860 or 1870 census. Are there searchable church records for the Baden area? Any information you can give me about this family in Baden or in the early years in Illinois would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Glen A Frederick ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Erica. Thank you for your response. I checked the IGI record you mentioned for Johann Philipp Stolz born abt 1807. I don't think this is my Philip Jacob Stolz's father for two reasons. First, also in the IGI there is a Philip Jacob Stolz listed as the son of Joh. Phil. Stolz and Barbara Meinzer, however he died 17 months after he was born. Second, Philip Jacob Stolz, the father, was born more like 1810-1811 and I believe his wife's first name was Christine. I found them listed with the son and his family in the 1870 US census for Stephenson CO. IL (spelling of name was Stolby) but I know it is the right family because Philip Jacob Stolz (the son) wife's name was correct and three children listed were correct. In the 1860 census, same county Stolz is listed again, only this time as Peter, wife Christina, and son Philip, age 22 (birth year would be correct-1838). I suppose it is feasible that the Stolz's had a second son around 1838 and named him Philip Jacob as well and that possibly Barbara was Christina. Confusing to say the least. I guess one way to maybe confirm the names would be the find the immigration record as you mentioned. You mentioned calling someone. Were you referring to a local German LDS office or some place in Germany to find this immigration record? I don't want you to go to any trouble and I surely don't want you spending your time and certainly not money doing this. What exactly would you have to do? I really appreciate your help. Please let me know. Thank you very much. Glen A Frederick PS: Do you know what an OSB is? They are basically hand transcribed records of local church records from the 1700's-1900's. I just became aware of them in doing research of some other surnames in the OstFrieland area of Germany. I was wondering if other areas of Germany do the same or similar. -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Erika Lanz Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 12:23 PM To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BW] Inquiry Hi Glen, Yes, you are right, "mit der Familie" means with the family. I would suggest to get the films from your local LDS center from Teutschneureut. When you search for the place name type Neureut, there you will get a Neureut north and Neureut south, get the Neureut north. Philipps emigration papers are kept in the General-Landes-Archiv Karlsruhe with the number 280091. I don't know if they would look up the file for you. Shall I call them? The information on his emigration also should be mentioned on the film, if you do find his name there. On IGI I think I found his father: Johann Philipp Stolz, born abt. 1807 in Teutschneureut, married abt. 1843 also in Teutschneutreut a Barbara Meinzer born 20 Nov. 1811. Regards Erika -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von Glen Frederick Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. September 2008 23:22 An: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Betreff: Re: [BW] Inquiry Hi Erica, Thanks so much for this information. A couple questions if you don't mind. I found the Philip Stolz that immigrated in 1852, but how do you know that he immigrated with the whole family? When I look at the individual entry it says under comments "mit der Familie". I do not speak or read German but I assume this says something to the effect with his family. Where can I see who that family was? Also the other site you mentioned while I am sure would be interesting and helpful appears to be only in German. I really appreciate your kind help and any other information you could give me would be greatly appreciated. Glen A Frederick -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Erika Lanz Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 6:57 AM To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BW] Inquiry Hi Glen, Looks like I found him. A Philipp Stolz emigrated in 1852 with the whole family to America. The family is from Teutschneureut, which is now a suburb of Karlsruhe/Baden . Take a look: www.auswanderer-bw.de On the right click "English" Then on left: "Search for emigrants" Klick "Standard" "Last name" just type : Stolz, nothing else And then klick "Search data" You also can take a look at www.karlsruhe.de. Klick on the left "Stadt and Tourismus", there you klick "Stadtteile", then klick "Neureut". There were two villages north of Karlsruhe, one was Welschneureut and the other Teutschneureut, in 1935 they were combined and then named just Neureut. In 1972 Neureut was incorporated into the city of Karlsruhe. You lucky, you. Have a nice Sunday. Greetings from Stuttgart/Germany Erika -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von Glen Frederick Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. September 2008 09:48 An: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com Betreff: [BW] Inquiry I am researching the Stolz name from Baden. Philip Jacob Stolz was born there 7 Jun 1838. His father, also Philip Jacob Stolz was born approximately 1811. The son immigrated about 1852 and settled in Stevenson CO. IL. The father may have immigrated at that time also. I do not find the family in the census until 1880 in Seward CO. NE. They had moved there about 1874. I don't know why they cannot be found in the 1850, 1860 or 1870 census. Are there searchable church records for the Baden area? Any information you can give me about this family in Baden or in the early years in Illinois would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Glen A Frederick ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message