Paul, I read with interest your process of using the German phone book. I am looking for my ancestor Conrad Holman's birthplace. He came to South Carolina in 1750 and there is no known German birthplace but he was German speaking. His last will indicated a 1st born living daughter was left behind in Germany when he and his 2nd wife came to USA. I searched Holman and it came up with over 2000 hits on Hollmann. Do you know of anyway to download the entire 2000 hits so that I could sort by place and postal code in MS Excel? Larry Holman Vicksburg, MS -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of baden-wurttemberg-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 2:02 AM To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Subject: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 3, Issue 395 Today's Topics: 1. Witthopf family (audryr@comcast.net) 2. Re: Witthopf family (Paul Rands) Message: 2 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:48:12 -0800 From: "Paul Rands" <paulrands@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [BW] Witthopf family To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com>, <audryr@comcast.net> Message-ID: <BAY131-DS4DD1C3C5386F561A3ED54ADF30@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Hi Audry, Witthopf was probably a typical spelling for this surname when your ancestors left Germany. However, you won't find it today in the modern Germany online phone book . To see for yourself, go to http://www.infobel.com/en/world/Teldir.aspx?url=http://www.dastelefonbuch.de / select English tab select Expert Finder enter the surname Witthopf check the "also find similar names" box check the private entries radio button click on Search You'll find 95 entries with about half spelled Widhopf and the other half Withopf which are both phonetically identical to Witthopf. Keep all three in mind as you search for you ancestors. You should also look for Widthopf as it with sound the same as well. There will be other variations. Now go to Geogen (, a surname mapping website for Germany and map Widhopf and Withopf. You'll see that Widhopfs are mostly in Bavaria and Withopfs in Baden-Wuerttemburg with a major concentration in the modern county of Main-Tauber (Main-Tauber Kreis). To see a list of towns in Main-Tauber, go to the Wikipedia article on the county at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main-Tauber-Kreis Now back to the Germany phone book, this time limiting the surname to the exact spelling Withopf. Sort the results by postal code. Main-Tauber postal codes seem to begin with 979---- 13 in the town of Tauberbischofsheim and 11 in Koenigheim which is about 5 miles west of Tauberbischofsheim. Koenigheim's website is www.koenigheim.de If you get desperate and $5.50 is not big deal, you might spin the lottery (rent the Koenigheim film from your nearest FHC) and see what comes up. Also, you can do the same thing I did for Witthopf but using the surname Hoeke (try the o with umlaut) and cross reference the towns with the Withopf results. Warning, there will be several spelling variations you'll want to consider. Maybe you'll find a good place to start searching. Also, knowing whether the couple was Lutheran or Roman Catholic will be helpful. Happy hunting. Paul