Trying to locate information on the ship that my husband gg-grandmother came over from Germany to America. This is the information written on the outside of the truck she brought with her. Rosina Seybold Reist uber Havre nada. New York per. Postdriff All I know that it was sometime between 1853 to 1854 and single. She married Johann Bardtenschlager in Lancaster, Pa. Feb.1855. He came over about 1850. I know she was here before Oct 1854 as their oldest son was born in Millersville, Pa. in Oct 1854. His baptism is list as the same day his parents were married. Thanks Marilyn Bartenslager -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Carlisle Danzeisen's" <1833danzeisen@embarqmail.com> > Joanne, > Below is an entry I located that might help you. Could this be your > G-Grandfather? > > Name: J. J. Lang > Arrival Date: 3 Jun 1853 > Age: 26 (Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827) > Gender: Male > Port of Departure: Le Havre, France > Destination: United States of America > Place of Origin: Germany > Ethnicity/Race-/Nationality: German > Ship Name: "Franchise" > Port of Arrival: New York > Line: 29 > Microfilm Serial: M237 > Microfilm Roll: M237_126 > List Number: 495 > Port Arrival State: New York > Port Arrival Country: United States > > The manifest does not indicate the date that the ship "Franchise" departed > Le Havre, but it could have been at the end of April 1853. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of j paymal > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 1:03 AM > To: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BW] 1853 ship "Franchise" + LeHavre > > Does anyone know if there was an Emigrant ship named Franchise that sailed > from LeHavre, France to New York between April 23-29, 1853? The entry in my > Great Grandfather's Wanderbuch (an apprentist's record book) has an entry > made by "Le Comunissaire de police Deligue" which states something like "Vie > pour New York _____ mariner franchise Havre 23 ? April 1853" This entry is > approximate as it is difficult to read. The seal reads "Ville Du Havre - > Seine ?" > > Great Grandfather: Johann Jacob Lang from Weiler Wurttemberg born Feb 8, > 1827 > > Thanks for any help > Joanne Lang Paymal > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Marilyn, Have you tried www.castlegarden.org? Linda -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mbartenslager3735@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 9:06 AM To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BW] Ship from LeHavre to NewYork 1853/54 Trying to locate information on the ship that my husband gg-grandmother came over from Germany to America. This is the information written on the outside of the truck she brought with her. Rosina Seybold Reist uber Havre nada. New York per. Postdriff All I know that it was sometime between 1853 to 1854 and single. She married Johann Bardtenschlager in Lancaster, Pa. Feb.1855. He came over about 1850. I know she was here before Oct 1854 as their oldest son was born in Millersville, Pa. in Oct 1854. His baptism is list as the same day his parents were married. Thanks Marilyn Bartenslager -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Carlisle Danzeisen's" <1833danzeisen@embarqmail.com> > Joanne, > Below is an entry I located that might help you. Could this be your > G-Grandfather? > > Name: J. J. Lang > Arrival Date: 3 Jun 1853 > Age: 26 (Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827) > Gender: Male > Port of Departure: Le Havre, France > Destination: United States of America > Place of Origin: Germany > Ethnicity/Race-/Nationality: German > Ship Name: "Franchise" > Port of Arrival: New York > Line: 29 > Microfilm Serial: M237 > Microfilm Roll: M237_126 > List Number: 495 > Port Arrival State: New York > Port Arrival Country: United States > > The manifest does not indicate the date that the ship "Franchise" departed > Le Havre, but it could have been at the end of April 1853. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of j paymal > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 1:03 AM > To: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BW] 1853 ship "Franchise" + LeHavre > > Does anyone know if there was an Emigrant ship named Franchise that sailed > from LeHavre, France to New York between April 23-29, 1853? The entry in my > Great Grandfather's Wanderbuch (an apprentist's record book) has an entry > made by "Le Comunissaire de police Deligue" which states something like "Vie > pour New York _____ mariner franchise Havre 23 ? April 1853" This entry is > approximate as it is difficult to read. The seal reads "Ville Du Havre - > Seine ?" > > Great Grandfather: Johann Jacob Lang from Weiler Wurttemberg born Feb 8, > 1827 > > Thanks for any help > Joanne Lang Paymal > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
--- On Sat, 10/25/08, mbartenslager3735@comcast.net <mbartenslager3735@comcast.net> wrote: > From: mbartenslager3735@comcast.net <mbartenslager3735@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [BW] Ship from LeHavre to NewYork 1853/54 > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, October 25, 2008, 10:05 AM > Trying to locate information on the ship that my husband > gg-grandmother came over from Germany to America. This is > the information written on the outside of the truck she > brought with her. > Rosina Seybold > Reist uber Havre > nada. New York > per. Postdriff > All I know that it was sometime between 1853 to 1854 and > single. She married Johann Bardtenschlager in Lancaster, > Pa. Feb.1855. He came over about 1850. I know she was > here before Oct 1854 as their oldest son was born in > Millersville, Pa. in Oct 1854. His baptism is list as the > same day his parents were married. > > Thanks > Marilyn Bartenslager > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Carlisle Danzeisen's" > <1833danzeisen@embarqmail.com> > > > Joanne, > > Below is an entry I located that might help you. Could > this be your > > G-Grandfather? > > > > Name: J. J. Lang > > Arrival Date: 3 Jun 1853 > > Age: 26 (Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827) > > Gender: Male > > Port of Departure: Le Havre, France > > Destination: United States of America > > Place of Origin: Germany > > Ethnicity/Race-/Nationality: German > > Ship Name: "Franchise" > > Port of Arrival: New York > > Line: 29 > > Microfilm Serial: M237 > > Microfilm Roll: M237_126 > > List Number: 495 > > Port Arrival State: New York > > Port Arrival Country: United States > > > > The manifest does not indicate the date that the ship > "Franchise" departed > > Le Havre, but it could have been at the end of April > 1853. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of j paymal > > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 1:03 AM > > To: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [BW] 1853 ship "Franchise" + > LeHavre > > > > Does anyone know if there was an Emigrant ship named > Franchise that sailed > > from LeHavre, France to New York between April 23-29, > 1853? The entry in my > > Great Grandfather's Wanderbuch (an > apprentist's record book) has an entry > > made by "Le Comunissaire de police Deligue" > which states something like "Vie > > pour New York _____ mariner franchise Havre 23 ? April > 1853" This entry is > > approximate as it is difficult to read. The seal reads > "Ville Du Havre - > > Seine ?" > > > > Great Grandfather: Johann Jacob Lang from Weiler > Wurttemberg born Feb 8, > > 1827 > > > > Thanks for any help > > Joanne Lang Paymal > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message
--- On Sat, 10/25/08, mbartenslager3735@comcast.net <mbartenslager3735@comcast.net> wrote: > From: mbartenslager3735@comcast.net <mbartenslager3735@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [BW] Ship from LeHavre to NewYork 1853/54 > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, October 25, 2008, 10:05 AM > Trying to locate information on the ship that my husband > gg-grandmother came over from Germany to America. This is > the information written on the outside of the truck she > brought with her. > Rosina Seybold > Reist uber Havre > nada. New York > per. Postdriff > All I know that it was sometime between 1853 to 1854 and > single. She married Johann Bardtenschlager in Lancaster, > Pa. Feb.1855. He came over about 1850. I know she was > here before Oct 1854 as their oldest son was born in > Millersville, Pa. in Oct 1854. His baptism is list as the > same day his parents were married. > > Thanks > Marilyn Bartenslager > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Carlisle Danzeisen's" > <1833danzeisen@embarqmail.com> > > > Joanne, > > Below is an entry I located that might help you. Could > this be your > > G-Grandfather? > > > > Name: J. J. Lang > > Arrival Date: 3 Jun 1853 > > Age: 26 (Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827) > > Gender: Male > > Port of Departure: Le Havre, France > > Destination: United States of America > > Place of Origin: Germany > > Ethnicity/Race-/Nationality: German > > Ship Name: "Franchise" > > Port of Arrival: New York > > Line: 29 > > Microfilm Serial: M237 > > Microfilm Roll: M237_126 > > List Number: 495 > > Port Arrival State: New York > > Port Arrival Country: United States > > > > The manifest does not indicate the date that the ship > "Franchise" departed > > Le Havre, but it could have been at the end of April > 1853. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of j paymal > > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 1:03 AM > > To: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [BW] 1853 ship "Franchise" + > LeHavre > > > > Does anyone know if there was an Emigrant ship named > Franchise that sailed > > from LeHavre, France to New York between April 23-29, > 1853? The entry in my > > Great Grandfather's Wanderbuch (an > apprentist's record book) has an entry > > made by "Le Comunissaire de police Deligue" > which states something like "Vie > > pour New York _____ mariner franchise Havre 23 ? April > 1853" This entry is > > approximate as it is difficult to read. The seal reads > "Ville Du Havre - > > Seine ?" > > > > Great Grandfather: Johann Jacob Lang from Weiler > Wurttemberg born Feb 8, > > 1827 > > > > Thanks for any help > > Joanne Lang Paymal > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message
Marilyn, The free National Archives on-line archival data base (http://aad.archives.gov/aad/index.jsp ) lists four Rosina/Rosine Seybold's under the "Data Files Relating to the Immigration of Germans to the United States, created, ca. 1977 - 2002, documenting the period 1850 - 1897 - Collection". Manifest Identification Number 8424 - age 25; arrival date 06/20/1855 from Havre; ship name: HELVETIA Manifest Identification Number 8935 - age 21; arrival date 06/02/1857 from Bremen; ship name: NEW ORLEANS Manifest Identification Number 30220 - age 23; arrival date 08/30/1866 from Havre; ship name: TAMPICO Manifest Identification Number 40912 - age 20; arrival date 03/26/1889 from Bremen & Southampton; ship name: EMS You may want to check out the National Archives online archival data base for other spellings of her name. Ancestry.com has more Rosina/Rosine Seybold's than this with alternate name spellings, but without knowing her date of birth and other information (such as did she come to the US with other family members, where was she from in Germany, did she have a second/middle name that she may have gone by, etc.), it becomes harder to help you narrow it down. -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mbartenslager3735@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 10:06 AM To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BW] Ship from LeHavre to NewYork 1853/54 Trying to locate information on the ship that my husband gg-grandmother came over from Germany to America. This is the information written on the outside of the truck she brought with her. Rosina Seybold Reist uber Havre nada. New York per. Postdriff All I know that it was sometime between 1853 to 1854 and single. She married Johann Bardtenschlager in Lancaster, Pa. Feb.1855. He came over about 1850. I know she was here before Oct 1854 as their oldest son was born in Millersville, Pa. in Oct 1854. His baptism is list as the same day his parents were married. Thanks Marilyn Bartenslager