Hello, With the help of several on this list, particularly Erika Lanz, we've been able to follow the Roger (Rager with an oomlout) family back to 1611 in Niedernhall. Charles Fredrick (Karl Friedrich ) Roger, born 1858, emigrated to England when he was 16... about 1874. In 1878 he married Lissette Diez in Barrow in Furness. The dates are a little funny. Lissette and Charles each date themselves as 22 on the marriage certificate - but they should only have been 20. Lissette lists her birthplace as Germany and her father as Christophe Diez, farmer. They had 2 children in Barrow in Furness and later they moved to London and had several more. Lissette died at age 46 in London. We are trying to find Elizabeth Christina Diez but have struck out so far. We suspect she might have been from the Baden Wurttemerg area but haven't found anything. We would appreciate any help that the list can provide. Thanks. Glen Roger