Hi The Family History library Catalog includes church record extractions by Max Cramer. Would appreciate advice from any who have used these sources. Do they reliably point the way to actual church entries? --ie would they provide a short cut to ordering numerous records that may or may not include my ancestors. Advice please. Researching JOST/YOST family of Urach, Wurttemberg & BRÄUNDEL, BRAEUNDEL family of Uppergruppenbach (Branches of the Braeundel family also settled in Russia) Shirley HAAS Hulett San Diego ____________________________________________________________ Click here for great quotes from top international movers! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/PnY6rbvXqp0bEzQ3UxMzkhcMLC7D9e2lY9hcv8OdU0kBSpfHH55MA/