Thanks to all who responded to my inquiry regarding Max Cramer's research. For those who asked, the work in question is clearly labeled as an "extr action," not a transcription. The description of his work that includes Untergruppenbach states: Title: Evangelische Kirchenbuchausz FCge, 1553-1810 Authors: Cramer, Max (Main Author) Notes: Mikrofilm aufgenommen von Manuskripten im katholischen Matrikelamt Augsburg. Extracts of Protestant parish register baptisms, marriages and deaths for Aldingen (OA. Ludwigsburg), Beilstein, Gronau, Lauffen/Neckar (OA. Besigheim), Oberstenfeld, Untergruppenbach, Weil (im Dorf), Wurttemberg, Germany. Shirley ____________________________________________________________ Be there without being there. Click now for great video conferencing solutions! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/PnY6rbtqPauBsOfMpBGVArhKxdkhcxnS83o99UB5doM4M8AOVIVqE/