Is it possible to join the Baden facebook group without also becoming a facebook member? > -----Original Message----- > From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of baden-wurttemberg- > request@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 12:01 AM > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Subject: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 8, Issue 178 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Baden Genealogy Group (gundlingen@gmail.com) > 2. Re: Baden Genealogy Group (gundlingen@gmail.com) > 3. Re: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 8, Issue 177 (Jennie Fleck) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 09:29:35 +0100 > From: gundlingen@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [BW] Baden Genealogy Group > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAEZTZOwxTsX1fsjK4jxZRRPwEdQgaO4NMAu6Fctz3LFpPbtqug@mail.gmail.c > om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hello Paul, > we've been in touch before some time ago thru this list. I created the > Baden Genealogy Group at FB just because it makes it easier to exchange > items like records and fotos etc. by uploading them to a message / > reply. > This is not possible thru a mailing list or message board. > Andreas, Karlsruhe, Baden <snip> > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 08:39:21 -0500 (EST) > From: Jennie Fleck <jenniewf@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [BW] BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 8, Issue 177 > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8D0A6B13CB34E7D-948-437BB@webmailstg-d01.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > > Lynn Dosch expresses it beautifully. Thank you Lynn for a calm, > reasoned message. > It doesn't have to be one or the other. If you are uncomfortable with > Facebook, fine. Don't use it. Let's end the repetitive discussion and > get back to genealogy. No one will say it better than Lynn did. > > Jen >
Andreas, You are mistaken. The message boards DO allow attachment of images. The FB account is just another distraction. At 02:01 AM 11/4/2013, you wrote: >From: gundlingen@gmail.com >Subject: Re: [BW] Baden Genealogy Group >To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > >Hello Paul, >we've been in touch before some time ago thru this list. I created the >Baden Genealogy Group at FB just because it makes it easier to exchange >items like records and fotos etc. by uploading them to a message / reply. >This is not possible thru a mailing list or message board. >Andreas, Karlsruhe, Baden ____________________________________________________________ Do THIS before eating carbs (every time) 1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar & decrease fat storage http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/527794eddf75014ed0898st04vuc
The Baden Genealogy Group don't want to compete with this mailing list, it's just another place with another kind of comunication. So I hope it's not too much advertizing when I promote my group here. Everyone has the freedom to decide to join the group and also to stay here (which I'd prefer, I also stay). I am one of two administrators, and we gave rules to the group: "This is a group of volunteers to share information and to ask for assistance about the BADEN region of Germany which is the smaller part of Baden-Württemberg, as it relates to Genealogy. Please feel free to post your query if you need assistance for your ancestry, or to add any information that may help others as well as links to regional resources. Please accept that this is a non-commercial offer and that we do no extended research for you. We expect that you already have researched the well-known online sources such as FamilySearch or Rootsweb. Please also accept our rule that a new topic should be a new post in order to avoid unreadable threads of multiple messages / replies. "Off-topic" and "out-of-area" messages will be removed from time to time. Commercial offers will be regarded as spam and will be removed immediately without notice, spammers will be blocked. And, no go areas are: politics, hate, intolerance, racism, this -ism and that -ism." As far as the privacy of the group members and their data is concerned I follow the privacy rules we have here in Germany which are much stricter than in the US. Andreas Zipfel-Waag, Karlsruhe, Baden, Germany On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 9:29 AM, <gundlingen@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Paul, > we've been in touch before some time ago thru this list. I created the > Baden Genealogy Group at FB just because it makes it easier to exchange > items like records and fotos etc. by uploading them to a message / reply. > This is not possible thru a mailing list or message board. > Andreas, Karlsruhe, Baden > > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Paul Rands <paulrands@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Since I'm not a facebook power user and don't understand all of its >> advantages and disadvantages, please help me understand why your group has >> chosen facebook instead of a rootsweb mail list like this BW list. Also, >> why are you splintering this group? >> >> Does facebook allow anyone, member or not, to search all previous posts >> for interesting references to their own research interests? >> >> As a member of your facebook group, do all posts to your facebook group >> then pile up on ones own facebook wall? >> >> If I reply to a facebook post for the Baden group, will all of my other >> facebook friends then have to wade through the original post to the Baden >> facebook post plus all the comments to that post? >> >> Are there so many posts to this BW list to warrant fragmenting it by >> starting another group and therefore weakening the usefulness of the >> existing group? >> >> In addition to these questions, can you explain the advantages to doing >> this type of thing in facebook which is a generic social media >> site/application versus using rootsweb, a tool dedicated to genealogical >> research and sharing? >> >> Paul in Oregon >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >
Hello Paul, we've been in touch before some time ago thru this list. I created the Baden Genealogy Group at FB just because it makes it easier to exchange items like records and fotos etc. by uploading them to a message / reply. This is not possible thru a mailing list or message board. Andreas, Karlsruhe, Baden On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Paul Rands <paulrands@hotmail.com> wrote: > Since I'm not a facebook power user and don't understand all of its > advantages and disadvantages, please help me understand why your group has > chosen facebook instead of a rootsweb mail list like this BW list. Also, > why are you splintering this group? > > Does facebook allow anyone, member or not, to search all previous posts > for interesting references to their own research interests? > > As a member of your facebook group, do all posts to your facebook group > then pile up on ones own facebook wall? > > If I reply to a facebook post for the Baden group, will all of my other > facebook friends then have to wade through the original post to the Baden > facebook post plus all the comments to that post? > > Are there so many posts to this BW list to warrant fragmenting it by > starting another group and therefore weakening the usefulness of the > existing group? > > In addition to these questions, can you explain the advantages to doing > this type of thing in facebook which is a generic social media > site/application versus using rootsweb, a tool dedicated to genealogical > research and sharing? > > Paul in Oregon > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Lynn Dosch expresses it beautifully. Thank you Lynn for a calm, reasoned message. It doesn't have to be one or the other. If you are uncomfortable with Facebook, fine. Don't use it. Let's end the repetitive discussion and get back to genealogy. No one will say it better than Lynn did. Jen Today's Topics: 1. Re: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 8, Issue 176 (Lynn Dosch) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 22:58:49 -0500 From: Lynn Dosch <lynndosch@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [BW] BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 8, Issue 176 To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <CAGNtoKr137ULZx93+appQGx6JcusiNfwD05qEXTZhFR4bJB1aQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Different strokes for different folks. I belong to several Facebook genealogy groups and find them useful, as secure as rootsweb and very interactive. Many of the negative comments here reflect conventional wisdom about Facebook and not necessarily how it actually works -- especially using private groups rather than simple pages. Facebook allows posting of photos and files and allows members to collaborate on documents, features I find very useful. I didn't interpret the original poster as suggesting splintering this group, but as suggesting that there are also Facebook groups available for help with our Baden research. There are more Baden research groups than just this rootsweb group. I'm guessing there are many who are members of both, but there are also others who likely are only members of one or the other style of research support group. Your research style might make you prefer one type over another. You can easily search past posts in Facebook; groups have moderators who can set privacy levels. Most groups I belong to require permission from the moderator to join. Facebook posts from group members do not show up on my wall unless I am friends with the poster, so almost none of my group posts show on my wall. Likewise, your friends don't see any of the group conversations you participate in - these are typically private conversations. And group posts don't clutter up my email the way these mail list groups do (even though i use a digest form for mail lists I belong to) Facebook groups and roots web groups are only as good as their moderators. While rootsweb groups are genealogy oriented, I find the groups I've had experience with don't have any special tools that make them any more useful than the Facebook groups I belong to. Many are woefully out of date and no longer being maintained. Facebook groups depend on their member interaction to continue conversations and research leads, so similar things can happen to these groups. I will continue to use both rootsweb groups and Facebook groups as they both provide me with important information for my genealogy research. Each person should use what they are comfortable with and what they find most useful. If you've tried Facebook groups and found them lacking, then don't use them. If you haven't tried them, do your own research on Facebook -it's more than a generic social media app, it's also a good networking tool. Ask your genealogy friends for their opinions, read the terms of use and decide whether you feel comfortable using the environment.
Different strokes for different folks. I belong to several Facebook genealogy groups and find them useful, as secure as rootsweb and very interactive. Many of the negative comments here reflect conventional wisdom about Facebook and not necessarily how it actually works -- especially using private groups rather than simple pages. Facebook allows posting of photos and files and allows members to collaborate on documents, features I find very useful. I didn't interpret the original poster as suggesting splintering this group, but as suggesting that there are also Facebook groups available for help with our Baden research. There are more Baden research groups than just this rootsweb group. I'm guessing there are many who are members of both, but there are also others who likely are only members of one or the other style of research support group. Your research style might make you prefer one type over another. You can easily search past posts in Facebook; groups have moderators who can set privacy levels. Most groups I belong to require permission from the moderator to join. Facebook posts from group members do not show up on my wall unless I am friends with the poster, so almost none of my group posts show on my wall. Likewise, your friends don't see any of the group conversations you participate in - these are typically private conversations. And group posts don't clutter up my email the way these mail list groups do (even though i use a digest form for mail lists I belong to) Facebook groups and roots web groups are only as good as their moderators. While rootsweb groups are genealogy oriented, I find the groups I've had experience with don't have any special tools that make them any more useful than the Facebook groups I belong to. Many are woefully out of date and no longer being maintained. Facebook groups depend on their member interaction to continue conversations and research leads, so similar things can happen to these groups. I will continue to use both rootsweb groups and Facebook groups as they both provide me with important information for my genealogy research. Each person should use what they are comfortable with and what they find most useful. If you've tried Facebook groups and found them lacking, then don't use them. If you haven't tried them, do your own research on Facebook -it's more than a generic social media app, it's also a good networking tool. Ask your genealogy friends for their opinions, read the terms of use and decide whether you feel comfortable using the environment. Just my 2 cents worth. On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 4:04 PM, <baden-wurttemberg-request@rootsweb.com>wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Baden Genealogy Group (gundlingen@gmail.com) > 2. Re: Baden Genealogy Group (Paul Rands) > 3. Re: Baden Genealogy Group (Jack & Melanie McConnell) > 4. Re: Baden Genealogy Group (dmhen@aol.com) > 5. Re: Baden Genealogy Group (Patrick Turner) > 6. Re: Baden Genealogy Group (Kevin Bradford) > 7. Baden Genealogy Group (lschling@verizon.net) > 8. Re: Baden Genealogy Group (ToySchach@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 17:36:26 +0100 > From: gundlingen@gmail.com > Subject: [BW] Baden Genealogy Group > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > < > CAEZTZOx5rz8eoXhG20xCAQ07txRbRJSpidMip3sv3NRyp-Mdwg@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > This is a group of volunteers to share information and to ask for > assistance about the BADEN region of Germany which is the smaller part of > Baden-W?rttemberg, as it relates to Genealogy. > Please feel free to join and to post your query if you need assistance for > your ancestry, or to add any information that may help others as well as > links to regional resources. > Please accept that this is a non-commercial offer and that we do no > extended research for you. > > Link to the Baden Genealogy Group: > https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/ > > > <https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/> > > > <https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 11:40:14 -0700 > From: Paul Rands <paulrands@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [BW] Baden Genealogy Group > To: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Rootsweb List <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BAY167-W482578E38F1CF12E855A4FADF40@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Since I'm not a facebook power user and don't understand all of its > advantages and disadvantages, please help me understand why your group has > chosen facebook instead of a rootsweb mail list like this BW list. Also, > why are you splintering this group? > > Does facebook allow anyone, member or not, to search all previous posts > for interesting references to their own research interests? > > As a member of your facebook group, do all posts to your facebook group > then pile up on ones own facebook wall? > > If I reply to a facebook post for the Baden group, will all of my other > facebook friends then have to wade through the original post to the Baden > facebook post plus all the comments to that post? > > Are there so many posts to this BW list to warrant fragmenting it by > starting another group and therefore weakening the usefulness of the > existing group? > > In addition to these questions, can you explain the advantages to doing > this type of thing in facebook which is a generic social media > site/application versus using rootsweb, a tool dedicated to genealogical > research and sharing? > > Paul in Oregon > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 15:25:26 -0400 > From: "Jack & Melanie McConnell" <jacmac138@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [BW] Baden Genealogy Group > To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000f01ced801$49245d90$db6d18b0$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Well said Paul. I concur with your query > > Jack > > -----Original Message----- > From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paul Rands > Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 2:40 PM > To: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Rootsweb List > Subject: Re: [BW] Baden Genealogy Group > > Since I'm not a facebook power user and don't understand all of its > advantages and disadvantages, please help me understand why your group has > chosen facebook instead of a rootsweb mail list like this BW list. Also, > why are you splintering this group? > > Does facebook allow anyone, member or not, to search all previous posts for > interesting references to their own research interests? > > As a member of your facebook group, do all posts to your facebook group > then > pile up on ones own facebook wall? > > If I reply to a facebook post for the Baden group, will all of my other > facebook friends then have to wade through the original post to the Baden > facebook post plus all the comments to that post? > > Are there so many posts to this BW list to warrant fragmenting it by > starting another group and therefore weakening the usefulness of the > existing group? > > In addition to these questions, can you explain the advantages to doing > this > type of thing in facebook which is a generic social media site/application > versus using rootsweb, a tool dedicated to genealogical research and > sharing? > > Paul in Oregon > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 15:40:00 -0400 (EDT) > From: dmhen@aol.com > Subject: Re: [BW] Baden Genealogy Group > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8D0A61A738F0DF8-131C-340CC@webmail-d173.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Was not aware Baden was on FACEBOOK. I use rootsweb and familysearch > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jack & Melanie McConnell <jacmac138@comcast.net> > To: baden-wurttemberg <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sat, Nov 2, 2013 12:28 pm > Subject: Re: [BW] Baden Genealogy Group > > > Well said Paul. I concur with your query > > Jack > > -----Original Message----- > From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paul Rands > Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 2:40 PM > To: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Rootsweb List > Subject: Re: [BW] Baden Genealogy Group > > Since I'm not a facebook power user and don't understand all of its > advantages and disadvantages, please help me understand why your group has > chosen facebook instead of a rootsweb mail list like this BW list. Also, > why are you splintering this group? > > Does facebook allow anyone, member or not, to search all previous posts for > interesting references to their own research interests? > > As a member of your facebook group, do all posts to your facebook group > then > pile up on ones own facebook wall? > > If I reply to a facebook post for the Baden group, will all of my other > facebook friends then have to wade through the original post to the Baden > facebook post plus all the comments to that post? > > Are there so many posts to this BW list to warrant fragmenting it by > starting another group and therefore weakening the usefulness of the > existing group? > > In addition to these questions, can you explain the advantages to doing > this > type of thing in facebook which is a generic social media site/application > versus using rootsweb, a tool dedicated to genealogical research and > sharing? > > Paul in Oregon > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 15:04:52 -0500 > From: Patrick Turner <pfturner@mchsi.com> > Subject: Re: [BW] Baden Genealogy Group > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <52755AE4.6060106@mchsi.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > */_Under no circumstances, will I join Facebook._/* > > PT > > On 11/2/2013 11:36 AM, gundlingen@gmail.com wrote: > > This is a group of volunteers to share information and to ask for > > assistance about the BADEN region of Germany which is the smaller part of > > Baden-W?rttemberg, as it relates to Genealogy. > > Please feel free to join and to post your query if you need assistance > for > > your ancestry, or to add any information that may help others as well as > > links to regional resources. > > Please accept that this is a non-commercial offer and that we do no > > extended research for you. > > > > Link to the Baden Genealogy Group: > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/ > > > > > > <https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/> > > > > > > <https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 16:27:41 -0400 > From: Kevin Bradford <pugnacious60@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [BW] Baden Genealogy Group > To: "baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com" <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <COL131-W156ADD146C96C38B22B6C6C7F40@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Facebook is not an appropriate media for a list of this nature. It's > value will degenerate (no more archival storage), and the invasive nature > of Facebook will turn it into a commercial spying game. > > > > Regards, > > Kevin > > > > Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 15:04:52 -0500 > > From: pfturner@mchsi.com > > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [BW] Baden Genealogy Group > > > > */_Under no circumstances, will I join Facebook._/* > > > > PT > > > > On 11/2/2013 11:36 AM, gundlingen@gmail.com wrote: > > > This is a group of volunteers to share information and to ask for > > > assistance about the BADEN region of Germany which is the smaller part > of > > > Baden-W?rttemberg, as it relates to Genealogy. > > > Please feel free to join and to post your query if you need assistance > for > > > your ancestry, or to add any information that may help others as well > as > > > links to regional resources. > > > Please accept that this is a non-commercial offer and that we do no > > > extended research for you. > > > > > > Link to the Baden Genealogy Group: > > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/ > > > > > > > > > <https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/> > > > > > > > > > <https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 16:01:55 -0500 (CDT) > From: lschling@verizon.net > Subject: [BW] Baden Genealogy Group > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <26115706.402608.1383426115230.JavaMail.root@vznit170126> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > We are so lucky to have this group to work with, help each other, share > info > and etc. I see no need for face book. Frankly I don't use face book > and > with all you here on the news about Face book why would you want to go > there > with this type of research. > Walk in peace > Linn > This is a group of volunteers to share information and to ask for > assistance about the BADEN region of Germany which is the smaller part > of > Baden-W??rttemberg, as it relates to Genealogy. > Please feel free to join and to post your query if you need assistance > for > your ancestry, or to add any information that may help others as well as > links to regional resources. > Please accept that this is a non-commercial offer and that we do no > extended research for you. > Link to the Baden Genealogy Group: > [1]https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/ > <[2]https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/> > <[3]https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/> > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN[4]-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > References > > 1. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/ > 2. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/ > 3. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/ > 4. mailto:-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 17:04:14 -0400 (EDT) > From: ToySchach@aol.com > Subject: Re: [BW] Baden Genealogy Group > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <6fdbf.34c7030.3fa6c2ce@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > > I vote for genealogy on Facebook. I joined the Baden group today and wish > there was a Wuerttemberg group. They post photos and charts. This group > is great but oldfashion. Rootsweb needs an upgrade. > > Kent Schach > > > In a message dated 11/2/2013 4:29:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > pugnacious60@hotmail.com writes: > > Facebook is not an appropriate media for a list of this nature. It's > value will degenerate (no more archival storage), and the invasive nature > of > Facebook will turn it into a commercial spying game. > > > > Regards, > > Kevin > > > > Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 15:04:52 -0500 > > From: pfturner@mchsi.com > > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [BW] Baden Genealogy Group > > > > */_Under no circumstances, will I join Facebook._/* > > > > PT > > > > On 11/2/2013 11:36 AM, gundlingen@gmail.com wrote: > > > This is a group of volunteers to share information and to ask for > > > assistance about the BADEN region of Germany which is the smaller part > of > > > Baden-W?rttemberg, as it relates to Genealogy. > > > Please feel free to join and to post your query if you need assistance > for > > > your ancestry, or to add any information that may help others as well > as > > > links to regional resources. > > > Please accept that this is a non-commercial offer and that we do no > > > extended research for you. > > > > > > Link to the Baden Genealogy Group: > > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/ > > > > > > > > > <https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/> > > > > > > > > > <https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BADEN-WURTTEMBERG list administrator, send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BADEN-WURTTEMBERG mailing list, send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 8, Issue 176 > ************************************************* > -- Lynn Dosch 608-515-3558 3079 Yarmouth Greenway Drive Fitchburg, WI 53711
This is a group of volunteers to share information and to ask for assistance about the BADEN region of Germany which is the smaller part of Baden-Württemberg, as it relates to Genealogy. Please feel free to join and to post your query if you need assistance for your ancestry, or to add any information that may help others as well as links to regional resources. Please accept that this is a non-commercial offer and that we do no extended research for you. Link to the Baden Genealogy Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/ <https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/> <https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/>
I vote for genealogy on Facebook. I joined the Baden group today and wish there was a Wuerttemberg group. They post photos and charts. This group is great but oldfashion. Rootsweb needs an upgrade. Kent Schach In a message dated 11/2/2013 4:29:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pugnacious60@hotmail.com writes: Facebook is not an appropriate media for a list of this nature. It's value will degenerate (no more archival storage), and the invasive nature of Facebook will turn it into a commercial spying game. Regards, Kevin > Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 15:04:52 -0500 > From: pfturner@mchsi.com > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BW] Baden Genealogy Group > > */_Under no circumstances, will I join Facebook._/* > > PT > > On 11/2/2013 11:36 AM, gundlingen@gmail.com wrote: > > This is a group of volunteers to share information and to ask for > > assistance about the BADEN region of Germany which is the smaller part of > > Baden-Württemberg, as it relates to Genealogy. > > Please feel free to join and to post your query if you need assistance for > > your ancestry, or to add any information that may help others as well as > > links to regional resources. > > Please accept that this is a non-commercial offer and that we do no > > extended research for you. > > > > Link to the Baden Genealogy Group: > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/ > > > > > > <https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/> > > > > > > <https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Facebook is not an appropriate media for a list of this nature. It's value will degenerate (no more archival storage), and the invasive nature of Facebook will turn it into a commercial spying game. Regards, Kevin > Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 15:04:52 -0500 > From: pfturner@mchsi.com > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BW] Baden Genealogy Group > > */_Under no circumstances, will I join Facebook._/* > > PT > > On 11/2/2013 11:36 AM, gundlingen@gmail.com wrote: > > This is a group of volunteers to share information and to ask for > > assistance about the BADEN region of Germany which is the smaller part of > > Baden-Württemberg, as it relates to Genealogy. > > Please feel free to join and to post your query if you need assistance for > > your ancestry, or to add any information that may help others as well as > > links to regional resources. > > Please accept that this is a non-commercial offer and that we do no > > extended research for you. > > > > Link to the Baden Genealogy Group: > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/ > > > > > > <https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/> > > > > > > <https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
We are so lucky to have this group to work with, help each other, share info and etc. I see no need for face book. Frankly I don't use face book and with all you here on the news about Face book why would you want to go there with this type of research. Walk in peace Linn This is a group of volunteers to share information and to ask for assistance about the BADEN region of Germany which is the smaller part of Baden-Württemberg, as it relates to Genealogy. Please feel free to join and to post your query if you need assistance for your ancestry, or to add any information that may help others as well as links to regional resources. Please accept that this is a non-commercial offer and that we do no extended research for you. Link to the Baden Genealogy Group: [1]https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/ <[2]https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/> <[3]https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN[4]-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/ 2. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/ 3. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/ 4. mailto:-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com
Was not aware Baden was on FACEBOOK. I use rootsweb and familysearch -----Original Message----- From: Jack & Melanie McConnell <jacmac138@comcast.net> To: baden-wurttemberg <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Nov 2, 2013 12:28 pm Subject: Re: [BW] Baden Genealogy Group Well said Paul. I concur with your query Jack -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paul Rands Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 2:40 PM To: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Rootsweb List Subject: Re: [BW] Baden Genealogy Group Since I'm not a facebook power user and don't understand all of its advantages and disadvantages, please help me understand why your group has chosen facebook instead of a rootsweb mail list like this BW list. Also, why are you splintering this group? Does facebook allow anyone, member or not, to search all previous posts for interesting references to their own research interests? As a member of your facebook group, do all posts to your facebook group then pile up on ones own facebook wall? If I reply to a facebook post for the Baden group, will all of my other facebook friends then have to wade through the original post to the Baden facebook post plus all the comments to that post? Are there so many posts to this BW list to warrant fragmenting it by starting another group and therefore weakening the usefulness of the existing group? In addition to these questions, can you explain the advantages to doing this type of thing in facebook which is a generic social media site/application versus using rootsweb, a tool dedicated to genealogical research and sharing? Paul in Oregon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Well said Paul. I concur with your query Jack -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paul Rands Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 2:40 PM To: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Rootsweb List Subject: Re: [BW] Baden Genealogy Group Since I'm not a facebook power user and don't understand all of its advantages and disadvantages, please help me understand why your group has chosen facebook instead of a rootsweb mail list like this BW list. Also, why are you splintering this group? Does facebook allow anyone, member or not, to search all previous posts for interesting references to their own research interests? As a member of your facebook group, do all posts to your facebook group then pile up on ones own facebook wall? If I reply to a facebook post for the Baden group, will all of my other facebook friends then have to wade through the original post to the Baden facebook post plus all the comments to that post? Are there so many posts to this BW list to warrant fragmenting it by starting another group and therefore weakening the usefulness of the existing group? In addition to these questions, can you explain the advantages to doing this type of thing in facebook which is a generic social media site/application versus using rootsweb, a tool dedicated to genealogical research and sharing? Paul in Oregon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
*/_Under no circumstances, will I join Facebook._/* PT On 11/2/2013 11:36 AM, gundlingen@gmail.com wrote: > This is a group of volunteers to share information and to ask for > assistance about the BADEN region of Germany which is the smaller part of > Baden-Württemberg, as it relates to Genealogy. > Please feel free to join and to post your query if you need assistance for > your ancestry, or to add any information that may help others as well as > links to regional resources. > Please accept that this is a non-commercial offer and that we do no > extended research for you. > > Link to the Baden Genealogy Group: > https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/ > > > <https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/> > > > <https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405028003059446/> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Since I'm not a facebook power user and don't understand all of its advantages and disadvantages, please help me understand why your group has chosen facebook instead of a rootsweb mail list like this BW list. Also, why are you splintering this group? Does facebook allow anyone, member or not, to search all previous posts for interesting references to their own research interests? As a member of your facebook group, do all posts to your facebook group then pile up on ones own facebook wall? If I reply to a facebook post for the Baden group, will all of my other facebook friends then have to wade through the original post to the Baden facebook post plus all the comments to that post? Are there so many posts to this BW list to warrant fragmenting it by starting another group and therefore weakening the usefulness of the existing group? In addition to these questions, can you explain the advantages to doing this type of thing in facebook which is a generic social media site/application versus using rootsweb, a tool dedicated to genealogical research and sharing? Paul in Oregon
>From the description on the website, this was a chapel associated with a Dominican nunnery at that time but is now a Benedictine nunnery. I don't know Catholic practices but it is possible that such a chapel was not open to outsiders and that local parish members may have been ministered to in/from a different church. Habsthal is currently grouped with nearby Bernweiler and Levertsweiler and is part of the municipality of Weithart (see http://www.ostrach.de/gemeindeostrach/die-ortschaften-von-ostrach/weithart/ ) Bernweiler and Levertsweiler are so small as to be almost invisible on a map today. These two places mainly show up as street names out of Habsthal suggesting in which direction they are/were from there. Except for the nunnery, I doubt any of these three is/was big enough to have a parish church building of their own. However, I see there are microfilmed records for this location that you can borrow from the LDS Church. Details:Katholische Kirche Habsthal (OA. Sigmaringen)Taufen, Heiraten, Tote 1609-1819 Taufen, Tote 1819-1900 Heiraten 1819-1870Family History LibraryINTL Film912191 Film number 912191 is your reference number for ordering the rental. I can see I am wrong again, Levertsweiler does have a Catholic church (see http://www.kath-ostrachtal.de/html/levertsweiler.html?t=39d3646b295b789cc0613ab6d5b8701f )Here are the church records microfilm details:Katholische Kirche Levertsweiler (OA. Sigmaringen) Taufen, Heiraten, Tote 1683-1819 Taufen 1819-1862 Heiraten, Tote 1819-1900 Familienbuch 1819Family History LibraryINTL Film912195 However, it appears that the church building now in Levertsweiler was built starting in 1840, too late for your ancestors but this building replaced a previous structure that may have been where your ancestors worshipped and were married. This is based on my quick research, schoolboy German, and speculation. Some expert and/or local knowledge would be good. Paul Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 11:57:28 -0700 From: davidstroebel@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Catholic Church in Habsthal/Ostach? To: paulrands@hotmail.com; baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Thank you for your reply, Paul. I sent the church an email asking if they were the only Catholic church in Habsthal in 1736 when my ancestors went to church there. Dave From: Paul Rands <paulrands@hotmail.com> To: David Stroebel <davidstroebel@yahoo.com>; BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Rootsweb List <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 2:31 PM Subject: Catholic Church in Habsthal/Ostach? Try http://www.kloster-habsthal.de/kunst.htm
Thank you for your reply, Paul. I sent the church an email asking if they were the only Catholic church in Habsthal in 1736 when my ancestors went to church there. Dave From: Paul Rands <paulrands@hotmail.com> To: David Stroebel <davidstroebel@yahoo.com>; BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Rootsweb List <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 2:31 PM Subject: Catholic Church in Habsthal/Ostach? Try http://www.kloster-habsthal.de/kunst.htm
Try http://www.kloster-habsthal.de/kunst.htm
Hello, I am seeking information on the oldest Catholic Church in the Habsthal area of Ostrach, B-W. My earliest ancestors came from Habsthal and I want an image of the Catholic church they were married in. Thank you David
Dee, You may have better luck finding your ENDERS family if you sent your query to the mail list that supports the Bavaria area. This mail list supports the adjacent Kingdom of Würtemberg, Grandduchy of Baden, and Kingdom of Hohenzollern. Try http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIAN-ANCESTORS.html You will find that that there are few records available for researching in the old Kingdom of Bavaria and you will likely be required to hire a local researcher. At 02:01 AM 10/15/2013, you wrote: >From: "Dee Miller" <deenbill@comporium.net> >Subject: [BW] Church of the Daughter of God the divine Saviour of Wuerzburg > >I have searched for a few years and been unable >to find any information about this Church and >Justin Enders and siblings Bibiana and Max. >Would anyone be able to direct me to a sight with information? > >Marie Ender?s was my husbands grandmother. > >P.S. I do not read German. > >Thank You for your help, >Dee Miller, South Carolina US. > >Descendants of Ferdinand Enders > > 1 ENDERS, Ferdinand b: December 4, > 1832 in Frankenheim, Neustadt Saale, > Unterfranken, Bayern d: Nov. 27, 1904 in > Frankenheim, Germany Age 72 Yr's >Fact: Marie Enders father was Chief Game Warden >in Germany and her brother was the assistant >Game Warden. 99/ Charlie Miller >. +ENDERS, Anna Brueder/ b: in >Germany ??? > >... 2 ENDERS, Bibiana b: in >Germany >... 2 ENDERS, Justin b: in >Germany, May have been a Priest ??? >... 2 ENDERS, Max b: in >Germany >??? >............... +ENDERS, Agatha/ b: in >Germany >........... 2 ENDERS, Katharina >"Kath" b: Abt. 1873 in >Germany "IM"1893 >Residence: 1898 836 17th. St. New York, NY >........... 2 ENDERS, Sabina b: >August 1874 in Germany "IM" 1893 d: 1938 >in Narrowsburg, Sullivan County, New >York Burial: 1938 Saint Francis Xavier >Cemetery, Narrowsburg, Sullivan County, New York, >............... +ROHRMAN, Emil A. b: >1878 in Germany m: July 14, 1907 in >Manhattan, N. Y. d: 1948 in Narrowsburg, >Sullivan Co., N. Y. Burial: 1948 Saint Francis >Xavier Cemetery, Narrowsburg, Sullivan Co., N.Y. >........... 2 ENDERS, >Marie-Theresa b: February 10, 1881 in >Garmisch-Partenkirchen Bavaria [Black Forest] >Germany "IM" 1898. d: August 23, 1952 in >Detroit, MI. age 71 yr's 6 mo's 13 days Deth, >Certificate. Burial: August 27, 1952 Green Lawn >Cemetery. Detroit, MI. Married 1904 to ..... >+MILLER, William Grover b: December 2, 1884 in Norfolk Co, Virginia. > > >Information taken from: A small card tells of >Justin becoming a priest and where. > >Erinnerung >an das >erste heilige Messopfer >des Priesters >Justin Enders >gefeiert am >Montag den 1. August 1898 >in der >Kirche der Tochter vom gottl. Erloser >zu Wurzburg. > >Remembrance of the first Holy Sacrifice of the Priest Justin Enders, >celebrated on Monday the first of August 1898 in >the Church of the Daughter of God the divine Saviour of Wuerzburg ____________________________________________________________ BlackBerry® Q10 See the evolution of the classic BlackBerry® Keyboard. Available now http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/525d25a02fae6259f4a18st02vuc
Dieter, Thank you for the Buehlertal Migration information. Do you have an ideas on how I might contact someone in Buehlertal who can correspond in English? I would really like to establish contact with some Geiser family members and to learn more about the Geiser Schmeidemuseum. Any additional clues that you might be able to provide would be greatly appreciated. Carroll Warschak Waco, Texas