Hello, I am hoping someone can tell me where I may obtain information on the birth of a g grandmother in Deisendorf, Germany about 1828. She was Catholic. I do not have any idea where to start looking and would appreciate any help and advise. Her name was Rosina Isenberger. I have the date of her marriage and immigration to the US. Thanks in advance.
Bob, If the region turns out to be Saxony-Anhalt, as your cousins indicate, you might contact the Germanic Genealogy Society for help. http://www.ggsmn.org/Regional%20Pages/Saxony.htm You have not indicated what your family religion is. Family religion is a major clue to the region, especially since Wittenberg is where Martin Luther was a priest. BTW, please retain the subject line in mail list messages. At 02:01 AM 12/26/2013, you wrote: >From: "Bob Moore" <moor4933@bellsouth.net> >Subject: Re: [BW] BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 8, Issue 201 >To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <003601cf01de$17b50320$471f0960$@net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Thanks: > >I will follow your advice. > >Bob Moore >moor4933@bellsouth.net > >-----Original Message----- >From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >baden-wurttemberg-request@rootsweb.com >Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 2:01 AM >To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com >Subject: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 8, Issue 201 > > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest for Albers (Fred H Held) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 07:22:38 -0600 >From: Fred H Held <fhheld@netzero.net> >Subject: Re: [BW] BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest for Albers >To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com, "Bob Moore" > <moor4933@bellsouth.net> >Message-ID: <AABKMSQJNA2QEX9A@smtpout02.dca.untd.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed > >Bob, > >As I indicated a couple days ago, FamilySearch >shows is a baptism for a child of that couple in >the Evangelish (Lutheran) Church in Oberholzheim, >about 50 miles SE of Stuttgart in the kingdom of W?rtemberg. > >Wittenberg is a city in Saxony-Anhalt. >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wittenberg >Saxony-Anhalt is several hundred miles from >W?rtemberg and does not appear to have a mail >list or message board that supports it (It is not >to be confused with Saxony). If your information >is from the RootsWeb WorldConnect submittals of >your cousins, you need to contact them for confirmation. ____________________________________________________________ Do THIS before eating carbs (every time) 1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar & decrease fat storage http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/52bc1ed6e5d351ed53c6ast01vuc
Thanks: I will follow your advice. Bob Moore moor4933@bellsouth.net -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of baden-wurttemberg-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 2:01 AM To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Subject: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 8, Issue 201 Today's Topics: 1. Re: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest for Albers (Fred H Held) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 07:22:38 -0600 From: Fred H Held <fhheld@netzero.net> Subject: Re: [BW] BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest for Albers To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com, "Bob Moore" <moor4933@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <AABKMSQJNA2QEX9A@smtpout02.dca.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Bob, As I indicated a couple days ago, FamilySearch shows is a baptism for a child of that couple in the Evangelish (Lutheran) Church in Oberholzheim, about 50 miles SE of Stuttgart in the kingdom of W?rtemberg. Wittenberg is a city in Saxony-Anhalt. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wittenberg Saxony-Anhalt is several hundred miles from W?rtemberg and does not appear to have a mail list or message board that supports it (It is not to be confused with Saxony). If your information is from the RootsWeb WorldConnect submittals of your cousins, you need to contact them for confirmation. At 02:01 AM 12/23/2013, you wrote: >From: "Bob Moore" <moor4933@bellsouth.net> >Subject: Re: [BW] BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest for Albers, > >Hello: Seeking help and assistance: > >I hope that I am corresponding with the correct agency for help? > >I am researching the Alber line for my great grandson in-law Nathan Brain >Alber. > >I am trying to find the true parents of Henry J. Alber, AKA John Henry Alber >born 12 Jul 1870 in >Wittenberg,Sachsan-Anhalt.Germany. This is Nathan's 3 grandfather. > >It appears that his parents were: Mother- Pauline Stohhecker Buehler - no >proof >Father: Frederic Alber - no proof. > >This appears to be his naturalization record (for my John Henry Alber). Not >sure. > >U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1992 (Indexed in World Archives >Project) >about John Henry Albers >Name: John Henry Albers >Birth Place: Germany >Court District: Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, Iowa >Date of Action: 20 Oct 1880 (Note some other areas state 1887) > >I have not been able to find who was his sponsor, who he traveled with, and >his USA exact resident/destination. > >Any help or assistance will be greatly appreciated. > >If you need further information, I will be gland to furnish you >With what I have. > >Thanks in advance for your help/assistance. > >Bob Moore >moor4933@bellsouth.net ____________________________________________________________ Do THIS before eating carbs (every time) 1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar & decrease fat storage http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/52b8390ce9043390c3607st02duc ------------------------------ To contact the BADEN-WURTTEMBERG list administrator, send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the BADEN-WURTTEMBERG mailing list, send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 8, Issue 201 *************************************************
Bob, As I indicated a couple days ago, FamilySearch shows is a baptism for a child of that couple in the Evangelish (Lutheran) Church in Oberholzheim, about 50 miles SE of Stuttgart in the kingdom of Würtemberg. Wittenberg is a city in Saxony-Anhalt. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wittenberg Saxony-Anhalt is several hundred miles from Würtemberg and does not appear to have a mail list or message board that supports it (It is not to be confused with Saxony). If your information is from the RootsWeb WorldConnect submittals of your cousins, you need to contact them for confirmation. At 02:01 AM 12/23/2013, you wrote: >From: "Bob Moore" <moor4933@bellsouth.net> >Subject: Re: [BW] BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest for Albers, > >Hello: Seeking help and assistance: > >I hope that I am corresponding with the correct agency for help? > >I am researching the Alber line for my great grandson in-law Nathan Brain >Alber. > >I am trying to find the true parents of Henry J. Alber, AKA John Henry Alber >born 12 Jul 1870 in >Wittenberg,Sachsan-Anhalt.Germany. This is Nathan's 3 grandfather. > >It appears that his parents were: Mother- Pauline Stohhecker Buehler - no >proof >Father: Frederic Alber - no proof. > >This appears to be his naturalization record (for my John Henry Alber). Not >sure. > >U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1992 (Indexed in World Archives >Project) >about John Henry Albers >Name: John Henry Albers >Birth Place: Germany >Court District: Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, Iowa >Date of Action: 20 Oct 1880 (Note some other areas state 1887) > >I have not been able to find who was his sponsor, who he traveled with, and >his USA exact resident/destination. > >Any help or assistance will be greatly appreciated. > >If you need further information, I will be gland to furnish you >With what I have. > >Thanks in advance for your help/assistance. > >Bob Moore >moor4933@bellsouth.net ____________________________________________________________ Do THIS before eating carbs (every time) 1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar & decrease fat storage http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/52b8390ce9043390c3607st02duc
To make things worse, I learned on the 1870 census he said he came from Bremen! Diane -----Original Message----- From: Lee Bruch <LBruch@nwlink.com> To: baden-wurttemberg <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Dec 22, 2013 6:42 pm Subject: Re: [BW] BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 8, Issue 198 It's going to take *lots* of guesswork, but often people coming to the US adopted (or were given by customs officials) anglicized versions of their name, or names that sounded like their name. Kran is one possibility. Another: an umlauted a in German sounds like he a in Crane is English. Can anyone think of a name similar? But its going to take lots of luck. It's sort of asking "I have a relative Bob Jones who comes from the US - maybe Kansas or Iowa . Anyone know where he might be from or more about him?" > -----Original Message----- > From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of baden-wurttemberg- > request@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 12:01 AM > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Subject: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 8, Issue 198 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Adolphus Crane (Ruth Kittner) > 2. Re: Adolphus Crane (Dieter Joos) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 16:49:01 -0500 > From: Ruth Kittner <ruthann001@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAHOFUiOWAuC_50ECh6j_sJetUnGXDW6Vhr1yT7dZ4VMCG8DTkQ@mail.gmail.c > om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > well, Crane....sounds like Kran or Kranich? Krin, Krahen, Kranen, > Kroehn, or......Dieter....can you help out here? > > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 2:26 PM, <dlculhane@cs.com> wrote: > > > Thanks, Dieter, but figuring out his original name is part of my > > problem, alas! Are baptismal records for those princedoms on line? > > > > Diane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dieter Joos <djoos@dieter-joos.de> > > To: baden-wurttemberg <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sat, Dec 21, 2013 1:13 pm > > Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane > > > > > > Ruth and Diana, > > > > after the revolution 1848 the two adjacent princedoms > > Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen and Hohenzollern-Hechingen, at the south > > border of Wuerttemberg, were integrated into the Prussian Kingdom in > 1850. > > Contrary to Prussia which basically is of protestant denomination, > the > > two princedoms were Catholic. > > > > BTW Crane is not a German family name. So the first step should be to > > find out what the original German family name of Adolphus Crane was > like. > > > > Regards > > Dieter > > > > -- > > Dieter Joos > > Ueberlingen / Bodensee, Germany > > Webmaster of RootsWeb's Baden-Wuerttemberg Mailing List > > > > > > Am 21.12.2013 17:40, schrieb Ruth Kittner: > > > Diane, did you look in the Wuerttemberg immigration index? And did > > > you look in the Baltimore naturalization records? Also, if the > > > sources conflict on Prussia or Wuerttemberg, you might see if there > > > is a > > territory > > > that switched between the two states. I don't know of one offhand, > > > but > > our > > > German friends might. Ruth > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 9:58 AM, <dlculhane@cs.com> wrote: > > > > > >> I'm new to this list, and to German genealogy. I'm trying to help > > >> my brother-in-law trace some of his ancestors, including Adolphus > > >> Peter > > Crane, > > >> who was born in Germany (some sources say Prussia, other > > >> Wurttemberg) in 1836, emigrated to America in 1859, and became a > > >> harnessmaker in > > Baltimore. > > >> There was a shoemaker of about the same age named Joseph Crane, > > possibly a > > >> relative. Adolphus was a Catholic, and his death record says his > > >> father > > was > > >> Anthony. Does this family sound familiar to anyone? > > >> > > >> Diane in Illinois > > >> > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > > body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 00:42:19 +0100 > From: Dieter Joos <djoos@dieter-joos.de> > Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <52B6275B.10506@dieter-joos.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Diane, > > there are records online for certain regions of Baden-Wuerttemberg. > > But I'm afraid you have to do first some research homework in US like > checking census records, ship-lists, immigration records, parish > records etc in order to find out the German name and the German birth > location. > Without a certain minimum of useful information a research in Germany > is without any chance. > > Dieter > > Am 21.12.2013 20:26, schrieb dlculhane@cs.com: > > Thanks, Dieter, but figuring out his original name is part of my > problem, alas! Are baptismal records for those princedoms on line? > > > > Diane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dieter Joos <djoos@dieter-joos.de> > > To: baden-wurttemberg <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sat, Dec 21, 2013 1:13 pm > > Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane > > > > > > Ruth and Diana, > > > > after the revolution 1848 the two adjacent princedoms > > Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen and Hohenzollern-Hechingen, at the south > > border of Wuerttemberg, were integrated into the Prussian Kingdom in > 1850. > > Contrary to Prussia which basically is of protestant denomination, > the > > two princedoms were Catholic. > > > > BTW Crane is not a German family name. So the first step should be to > > find out what the original German family name of Adolphus Crane was > like. > > > > Regards > > Dieter > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BADEN-WURTTEMBERG list administrator, send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BADEN-WURTTEMBERG mailing list, send an email > to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN- > WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the email with no additional text. > > > End of BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 8, Issue 198 > ************************************************* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello: Seeking help and assistance: I hope that I am corresponding with the correct agency for help? I am researching the Alber line for my great grandson in-law Nathan Brain Alber. I am trying to find the true parents of Henry J. Alber, AKA John Henry Alber born 12 Jul 1870 in Wittenberg,Sachsan-Anhalt.Germany. This is Nathan's 3 grandfather. It appears that his parents were: Mother- Pauline Stohhecker Buehler - no proof Father: Frederic Alber - no proof. This appears to be his naturalization record (for my John Henry Alber). Not sure. U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1992 (Indexed in World Archives Project) about John Henry Albers Name: John Henry Albers Birth Place: Germany Court District: Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, Iowa Date of Action: 20 Oct 1880 (Note some other areas state 1887) I have not been able to find who was his sponsor, who he traveled with, and his USA exact resident/destination. Any help or assistance will be greatly appreciated. If you need further information, I will be gland to furnish you With what I have. Thanks in advance for your help/assistance. Bob Moore moor4933@bellsouth.net
It's going to take *lots* of guesswork, but often people coming to the US adopted (or were given by customs officials) anglicized versions of their name, or names that sounded like their name. Kran is one possibility. Another: an umlauted a in German sounds like he a in Crane is English. Can anyone think of a name similar? But its going to take lots of luck. It's sort of asking "I have a relative Bob Jones who comes from the US - maybe Kansas or Iowa . Anyone know where he might be from or more about him?" > -----Original Message----- > From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of baden-wurttemberg- > request@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 12:01 AM > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Subject: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 8, Issue 198 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Adolphus Crane (Ruth Kittner) > 2. Re: Adolphus Crane (Dieter Joos) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 16:49:01 -0500 > From: Ruth Kittner <ruthann001@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAHOFUiOWAuC_50ECh6j_sJetUnGXDW6Vhr1yT7dZ4VMCG8DTkQ@mail.gmail.c > om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > well, Crane....sounds like Kran or Kranich? Krin, Krahen, Kranen, > Kroehn, or......Dieter....can you help out here? > > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 2:26 PM, <dlculhane@cs.com> wrote: > > > Thanks, Dieter, but figuring out his original name is part of my > > problem, alas! Are baptismal records for those princedoms on line? > > > > Diane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dieter Joos <djoos@dieter-joos.de> > > To: baden-wurttemberg <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sat, Dec 21, 2013 1:13 pm > > Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane > > > > > > Ruth and Diana, > > > > after the revolution 1848 the two adjacent princedoms > > Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen and Hohenzollern-Hechingen, at the south > > border of Wuerttemberg, were integrated into the Prussian Kingdom in > 1850. > > Contrary to Prussia which basically is of protestant denomination, > the > > two princedoms were Catholic. > > > > BTW Crane is not a German family name. So the first step should be to > > find out what the original German family name of Adolphus Crane was > like. > > > > Regards > > Dieter > > > > -- > > Dieter Joos > > Ueberlingen / Bodensee, Germany > > Webmaster of RootsWeb's Baden-Wuerttemberg Mailing List > > > > > > Am 21.12.2013 17:40, schrieb Ruth Kittner: > > > Diane, did you look in the Wuerttemberg immigration index? And did > > > you look in the Baltimore naturalization records? Also, if the > > > sources conflict on Prussia or Wuerttemberg, you might see if there > > > is a > > territory > > > that switched between the two states. I don't know of one offhand, > > > but > > our > > > German friends might. Ruth > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 9:58 AM, <dlculhane@cs.com> wrote: > > > > > >> I'm new to this list, and to German genealogy. I'm trying to help > > >> my brother-in-law trace some of his ancestors, including Adolphus > > >> Peter > > Crane, > > >> who was born in Germany (some sources say Prussia, other > > >> Wurttemberg) in 1836, emigrated to America in 1859, and became a > > >> harnessmaker in > > Baltimore. > > >> There was a shoemaker of about the same age named Joseph Crane, > > possibly a > > >> relative. Adolphus was a Catholic, and his death record says his > > >> father > > was > > >> Anthony. Does this family sound familiar to anyone? > > >> > > >> Diane in Illinois > > >> > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > > body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 00:42:19 +0100 > From: Dieter Joos <djoos@dieter-joos.de> > Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <52B6275B.10506@dieter-joos.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Diane, > > there are records online for certain regions of Baden-Wuerttemberg. > > But I'm afraid you have to do first some research homework in US like > checking census records, ship-lists, immigration records, parish > records etc in order to find out the German name and the German birth > location. > Without a certain minimum of useful information a research in Germany > is without any chance. > > Dieter > > Am 21.12.2013 20:26, schrieb dlculhane@cs.com: > > Thanks, Dieter, but figuring out his original name is part of my > problem, alas! Are baptismal records for those princedoms on line? > > > > Diane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dieter Joos <djoos@dieter-joos.de> > > To: baden-wurttemberg <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sat, Dec 21, 2013 1:13 pm > > Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane > > > > > > Ruth and Diana, > > > > after the revolution 1848 the two adjacent princedoms > > Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen and Hohenzollern-Hechingen, at the south > > border of Wuerttemberg, were integrated into the Prussian Kingdom in > 1850. > > Contrary to Prussia which basically is of protestant denomination, > the > > two princedoms were Catholic. > > > > BTW Crane is not a German family name. So the first step should be to > > find out what the original German family name of Adolphus Crane was > like. > > > > Regards > > Dieter > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BADEN-WURTTEMBERG list administrator, send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BADEN-WURTTEMBERG mailing list, send an email > to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN- > WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the email with no additional text. > > > End of BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 8, Issue 198 > *************************************************
Hi Diane I checked the german database http://gedbas.genealogy.net/ for Crane. on the left you can change the language to english. There are several entries, the most are from the states. maybe you have luck Sven Am 21.12.2013 15:58, schrieb dlculhane@cs.com: > I'm new to this list, and to German genealogy. I'm trying to help my brother-in-law trace some of his ancestors, including Adolphus Peter Crane, who was born in Germany (some sources say Prussia, other Wurttemberg) in 1836, emigrated to America in 1859, and became a harnessmaker in Baltimore. There was a shoemaker of about the same age named Joseph Crane, possibly a relative. Adolphus was a Catholic, and his death record says his father was Anthony. Does this family sound familiar to anyone? > > Diane in Illinois > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thanks, Sven. I saw lots of Cranes, but no Adolphus. Diane -----Original Message----- From: Sven Steinle <ssteinle@gmx.net> To: baden-wurttemberg <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Dec 22, 2013 7:39 am Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane Hi Diane I checked the german database http://gedbas.genealogy.net/ for Crane. on the left you can change the language to english. There are several entries, the most are from the states. maybe you have luck Sven Am 21.12.2013 15:58, schrieb dlculhane@cs.com: > I'm new to this list, and to German genealogy. I'm trying to help my brother-in-law trace some of his ancestors, including Adolphus Peter Crane, who was born in Germany (some sources say Prussia, other Wurttemberg) in 1836, emigrated to America in 1859, and became a harnessmaker in Baltimore. There was a shoemaker of about the same age named Joseph Crane, possibly a relative. Adolphus was a Catholic, and his death record says his father was Anthony. Does this family sound familiar to anyone? > > Diane in Illinois > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Diane, have you found some of his siblings? Or his parents? Sometimes finding sibling groups works too. I'd find his naturalization record in Baltimore. Or where ever he ended up. The Union army offered reduced waiting times for men who enlisted in the army--the army even recruited in Germany. But this would not have mattered in the Confederate army. There were some German immigrants who fought for the Confederacy, but not as many as who fought for the Union. Ruth On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 10:15 AM, <dlculhane@cs.com> wrote: > Yes, I have an obituary, and a marriage record is my next stop, but I'll > have to go to a Family History Center to view the digitized image. > > Diane > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carole Cook <carolescoaching@broadweave.net> > To: baden-wurttemberg <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sun, Dec 22, 2013 8:54 am > Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane > > > How about looking at church records in the US where they attended. Have > you > looked for an obituary? > > Carole > > -----Original Message----- > From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > dlculhane@cs.com > Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 5:22 AM > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane > > Thanks, Dieter. I've done the censuses, looks like ships lists and > immigration records are next. > > Diane > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dieter Joos <djoos@dieter-joos.de> > To: baden-wurttemberg <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sat, Dec 21, 2013 5:48 pm > Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane > > > Diane, > > there are records online for certain regions of Baden-Wuerttemberg. > > But I'm afraid you have to do first some research homework in US like > checking census records, ship-lists, immigration records, parish records > etc in order to find out the German name and the German birth location. > Without a certain minimum of useful information a research in Germany is > without any chance. > > Dieter > > Am 21.12.2013 20:26, schrieb dlculhane@cs.com: > > Thanks, Dieter, but figuring out his original name is part of my problem, > alas! Are baptismal records for those princedoms on line? > > > > Diane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dieter Joos <djoos@dieter-joos.de> > > To: baden-wurttemberg <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sat, Dec 21, 2013 1:13 pm > > Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane > > > > > > Ruth and Diana, > > > > after the revolution 1848 the two adjacent princedoms > > Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen and Hohenzollern-Hechingen, at the south border > > of Wuerttemberg, were integrated into the Prussian Kingdom in 1850. > > Contrary to Prussia which basically is of protestant denomination, the > > two princedoms were Catholic. > > > > BTW Crane is not a German family name. So the first step should be to > > find out what the original German family name of Adolphus Crane was like. > > > > Regards > > Dieter > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Yes, I have an obituary, and a marriage record is my next stop, but I'll have to go to a Family History Center to view the digitized image. Diane -----Original Message----- From: Carole Cook <carolescoaching@broadweave.net> To: baden-wurttemberg <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Dec 22, 2013 8:54 am Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane How about looking at church records in the US where they attended. Have you looked for an obituary? Carole -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of dlculhane@cs.com Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 5:22 AM To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane Thanks, Dieter. I've done the censuses, looks like ships lists and immigration records are next. Diane -----Original Message----- From: Dieter Joos <djoos@dieter-joos.de> To: baden-wurttemberg <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Dec 21, 2013 5:48 pm Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane Diane, there are records online for certain regions of Baden-Wuerttemberg. But I'm afraid you have to do first some research homework in US like checking census records, ship-lists, immigration records, parish records etc in order to find out the German name and the German birth location. Without a certain minimum of useful information a research in Germany is without any chance. Dieter Am 21.12.2013 20:26, schrieb dlculhane@cs.com: > Thanks, Dieter, but figuring out his original name is part of my problem, alas! Are baptismal records for those princedoms on line? > > Diane > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dieter Joos <djoos@dieter-joos.de> > To: baden-wurttemberg <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sat, Dec 21, 2013 1:13 pm > Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane > > > Ruth and Diana, > > after the revolution 1848 the two adjacent princedoms > Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen and Hohenzollern-Hechingen, at the south border > of Wuerttemberg, were integrated into the Prussian Kingdom in 1850. > Contrary to Prussia which basically is of protestant denomination, the > two princedoms were Catholic. > > BTW Crane is not a German family name. So the first step should be to > find out what the original German family name of Adolphus Crane was like. > > Regards > Dieter > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
How about looking at church records in the US where they attended. Have you looked for an obituary? Carole -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of dlculhane@cs.com Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 5:22 AM To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane Thanks, Dieter. I've done the censuses, looks like ships lists and immigration records are next. Diane -----Original Message----- From: Dieter Joos <djoos@dieter-joos.de> To: baden-wurttemberg <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Dec 21, 2013 5:48 pm Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane Diane, there are records online for certain regions of Baden-Wuerttemberg. But I'm afraid you have to do first some research homework in US like checking census records, ship-lists, immigration records, parish records etc in order to find out the German name and the German birth location. Without a certain minimum of useful information a research in Germany is without any chance. Dieter Am 21.12.2013 20:26, schrieb dlculhane@cs.com: > Thanks, Dieter, but figuring out his original name is part of my problem, alas! Are baptismal records for those princedoms on line? > > Diane > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dieter Joos <djoos@dieter-joos.de> > To: baden-wurttemberg <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sat, Dec 21, 2013 1:13 pm > Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane > > > Ruth and Diana, > > after the revolution 1848 the two adjacent princedoms > Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen and Hohenzollern-Hechingen, at the south border > of Wuerttemberg, were integrated into the Prussian Kingdom in 1850. > Contrary to Prussia which basically is of protestant denomination, the > two princedoms were Catholic. > > BTW Crane is not a German family name. So the first step should be to > find out what the original German family name of Adolphus Crane was like. > > Regards > Dieter > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thanks, Dieter. I've done the censuses, looks like ships lists and immigration records are next. Diane -----Original Message----- From: Dieter Joos <djoos@dieter-joos.de> To: baden-wurttemberg <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Dec 21, 2013 5:48 pm Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane Diane, there are records online for certain regions of Baden-Wuerttemberg. But I'm afraid you have to do first some research homework in US like checking census records, ship-lists, immigration records, parish records etc in order to find out the German name and the German birth location. Without a certain minimum of useful information a research in Germany is without any chance. Dieter Am 21.12.2013 20:26, schrieb dlculhane@cs.com: > Thanks, Dieter, but figuring out his original name is part of my problem, alas! Are baptismal records for those princedoms on line? > > Diane > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dieter Joos <djoos@dieter-joos.de> > To: baden-wurttemberg <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sat, Dec 21, 2013 1:13 pm > Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane > > > Ruth and Diana, > > after the revolution 1848 the two adjacent princedoms > Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen and Hohenzollern-Hechingen, at the south border > of Wuerttemberg, were integrated into the Prussian Kingdom in 1850. > Contrary to Prussia which basically is of protestant denomination, the > two princedoms were Catholic. > > BTW Crane is not a German family name. So the first step should be to > find out what the original German family name of Adolphus Crane was like. > > Regards > Dieter > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Diane, there are records online for certain regions of Baden-Wuerttemberg. But I'm afraid you have to do first some research homework in US like checking census records, ship-lists, immigration records, parish records etc in order to find out the German name and the German birth location. Without a certain minimum of useful information a research in Germany is without any chance. Dieter Am 21.12.2013 20:26, schrieb dlculhane@cs.com: > Thanks, Dieter, but figuring out his original name is part of my problem, alas! Are baptismal records for those princedoms on line? > > Diane > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dieter Joos <djoos@dieter-joos.de> > To: baden-wurttemberg <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sat, Dec 21, 2013 1:13 pm > Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane > > > Ruth and Diana, > > after the revolution 1848 the two adjacent princedoms > Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen and Hohenzollern-Hechingen, at the south border > of Wuerttemberg, were integrated into the Prussian Kingdom in 1850. > Contrary to Prussia which basically is of protestant denomination, the > two princedoms were Catholic. > > BTW Crane is not a German family name. So the first step should be to > find out what the original German family name of Adolphus Crane was like. > > Regards > Dieter >
Ruth and Diana, after the revolution 1848 the two adjacent princedoms Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen and Hohenzollern-Hechingen, at the south border of Wuerttemberg, were integrated into the Prussian Kingdom in 1850. Contrary to Prussia which basically is of protestant denomination, the two princedoms were Catholic. BTW Crane is not a German family name. So the first step should be to find out what the original German family name of Adolphus Crane was like. Regards Dieter -- Dieter Joos Ueberlingen / Bodensee, Germany Webmaster of RootsWeb's Baden-Wuerttemberg Mailing List Am 21.12.2013 17:40, schrieb Ruth Kittner: > Diane, did you look in the Wuerttemberg immigration index? And did you > look in the Baltimore naturalization records? Also, if the sources > conflict on Prussia or Wuerttemberg, you might see if there is a territory > that switched between the two states. I don't know of one offhand, but our > German friends might. Ruth > > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 9:58 AM, <dlculhane@cs.com> wrote: > >> I'm new to this list, and to German genealogy. I'm trying to help my >> brother-in-law trace some of his ancestors, including Adolphus Peter Crane, >> who was born in Germany (some sources say Prussia, other Wurttemberg) in >> 1836, emigrated to America in 1859, and became a harnessmaker in Baltimore. >> There was a shoemaker of about the same age named Joseph Crane, possibly a >> relative. Adolphus was a Catholic, and his death record says his father was >> Anthony. Does this family sound familiar to anyone? >> >> Diane in Illinois >> >
well, Crane....sounds like Kran or Kranich? Krin, Krahen, Kranen, Kroehn, or......Dieter....can you help out here? On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 2:26 PM, <dlculhane@cs.com> wrote: > Thanks, Dieter, but figuring out his original name is part of my problem, > alas! Are baptismal records for those princedoms on line? > > Diane > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dieter Joos <djoos@dieter-joos.de> > To: baden-wurttemberg <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sat, Dec 21, 2013 1:13 pm > Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane > > > Ruth and Diana, > > after the revolution 1848 the two adjacent princedoms > Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen and Hohenzollern-Hechingen, at the south border > of Wuerttemberg, were integrated into the Prussian Kingdom in 1850. > Contrary to Prussia which basically is of protestant denomination, the > two princedoms were Catholic. > > BTW Crane is not a German family name. So the first step should be to > find out what the original German family name of Adolphus Crane was like. > > Regards > Dieter > > -- > Dieter Joos > Ueberlingen / Bodensee, Germany > Webmaster of RootsWeb's Baden-Wuerttemberg Mailing List > > > Am 21.12.2013 17:40, schrieb Ruth Kittner: > > Diane, did you look in the Wuerttemberg immigration index? And did you > > look in the Baltimore naturalization records? Also, if the sources > > conflict on Prussia or Wuerttemberg, you might see if there is a > territory > > that switched between the two states. I don't know of one offhand, but > our > > German friends might. Ruth > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 9:58 AM, <dlculhane@cs.com> wrote: > > > >> I'm new to this list, and to German genealogy. I'm trying to help my > >> brother-in-law trace some of his ancestors, including Adolphus Peter > Crane, > >> who was born in Germany (some sources say Prussia, other Wurttemberg) in > >> 1836, emigrated to America in 1859, and became a harnessmaker in > Baltimore. > >> There was a shoemaker of about the same age named Joseph Crane, > possibly a > >> relative. Adolphus was a Catholic, and his death record says his father > was > >> Anthony. Does this family sound familiar to anyone? > >> > >> Diane in Illinois > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Thanks, Dieter, but figuring out his original name is part of my problem, alas! Are baptismal records for those princedoms on line? Diane -----Original Message----- From: Dieter Joos <djoos@dieter-joos.de> To: baden-wurttemberg <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Dec 21, 2013 1:13 pm Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane Ruth and Diana, after the revolution 1848 the two adjacent princedoms Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen and Hohenzollern-Hechingen, at the south border of Wuerttemberg, were integrated into the Prussian Kingdom in 1850. Contrary to Prussia which basically is of protestant denomination, the two princedoms were Catholic. BTW Crane is not a German family name. So the first step should be to find out what the original German family name of Adolphus Crane was like. Regards Dieter -- Dieter Joos Ueberlingen / Bodensee, Germany Webmaster of RootsWeb's Baden-Wuerttemberg Mailing List Am 21.12.2013 17:40, schrieb Ruth Kittner: > Diane, did you look in the Wuerttemberg immigration index? And did you > look in the Baltimore naturalization records? Also, if the sources > conflict on Prussia or Wuerttemberg, you might see if there is a territory > that switched between the two states. I don't know of one offhand, but our > German friends might. Ruth > > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 9:58 AM, <dlculhane@cs.com> wrote: > >> I'm new to this list, and to German genealogy. I'm trying to help my >> brother-in-law trace some of his ancestors, including Adolphus Peter Crane, >> who was born in Germany (some sources say Prussia, other Wurttemberg) in >> 1836, emigrated to America in 1859, and became a harnessmaker in Baltimore. >> There was a shoemaker of about the same age named Joseph Crane, possibly a >> relative. Adolphus was a Catholic, and his death record says his father was >> Anthony. Does this family sound familiar to anyone? >> >> Diane in Illinois >> > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thanks for the tips, Ruth! Diane -----Original Message----- From: Ruth Kittner <ruthann001@gmail.com> To: baden-wurttemberg <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Dec 21, 2013 10:43 am Subject: Re: [BW] Adolphus Crane Diane, did you look in the Wuerttemberg immigration index? And did you look in the Baltimore naturalization records? Also, if the sources conflict on Prussia or Wuerttemberg, you might see if there is a territory that switched between the two states. I don't know of one offhand, but our German friends might. Ruth On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 9:58 AM, <dlculhane@cs.com> wrote: > I'm new to this list, and to German genealogy. I'm trying to help my > brother-in-law trace some of his ancestors, including Adolphus Peter Crane, > who was born in Germany (some sources say Prussia, other Wurttemberg) in > 1836, emigrated to America in 1859, and became a harnessmaker in Baltimore. > There was a shoemaker of about the same age named Joseph Crane, possibly a > relative. Adolphus was a Catholic, and his death record says his father was > Anthony. Does this family sound familiar to anyone? > > Diane in Illinois > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Diane, did you look in the Wuerttemberg immigration index? And did you look in the Baltimore naturalization records? Also, if the sources conflict on Prussia or Wuerttemberg, you might see if there is a territory that switched between the two states. I don't know of one offhand, but our German friends might. Ruth On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 9:58 AM, <dlculhane@cs.com> wrote: > I'm new to this list, and to German genealogy. I'm trying to help my > brother-in-law trace some of his ancestors, including Adolphus Peter Crane, > who was born in Germany (some sources say Prussia, other Wurttemberg) in > 1836, emigrated to America in 1859, and became a harnessmaker in Baltimore. > There was a shoemaker of about the same age named Joseph Crane, possibly a > relative. Adolphus was a Catholic, and his death record says his father was > Anthony. Does this family sound familiar to anyone? > > Diane in Illinois > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Okay. Yes, I can trace him in the States. It's back to Germany that I'm stuck. The only Civil War era record I found was one for A. E. Crane buying a length of rope. Is that what you're referring to? That was in Florida, so not likely mine. Diane