What I can see are two letters between "B" and "u" (with a vertical line above), and the end of the word looks like "nn" just like in Anna or Johann below. I think the name is in nominative, but not the profession, here I read "Wagnern", too. So I would stick to Braumann. Then searching for "Braumann Sessenheim" or "Braumann Alsace" there are some results (also written "Brohmann"). There are also results in http://meta.genealogy.net/ but rather widespread in Germany. Nonetheless René is right, other entries with "Brau..." names would be helpful. Or just a list of family names in Sessenheim from that time. Patricia -- privat: Metzinger Str. 29 72555 Metzingen (-Neuhausen), BW ============================================================== Patricia Stasch Klassische Archäologin Fax+Anrufbeantworter-Nr: 03212-1102645 (Anruf wird als *.wav, Fax als *.pdf in der eMailbox abgelegt) ============================================================== Zitat von rene.granacher@dlh.de: > It is rather clear that Daniel's last name begins with "Brau", but > after that it gets more difficult. It may very well be Braumann, as > Patricia suggested, but something like Brauner is also possible. > Also note that the name may here be not in nominative but in dative > (see the next words "Bürgern und Wagnern" instead of "Bürger und > Wagner", citizen and wagon-maker), so there may have been an "n" or > "en" added to the actual name. So the writing may also be "Braunern" > if the name was "Brauner", or even "Braunen" if it was "Braun" - > Scribes would sometimes change names that way in order to be very > correct. Maybe just have a look which names starting with "Brau..." > existed in Sessenheim at the time. > > His wife's (Anna Maria) last name looks like "Büerlin" to me. > > René > > > >> >> Zitat von Thomas Johnson <bachjohanns@yahoo.com>: >> >>> Hello List >>> I have encountered a last name which I cannot decipher, and which >>> could lead to further ancestors. Could someone please help me? >>> >>> The last name in question is on the line which begins 'den 7 Marty >>> ist Daniel...' and which appears after the name Daniel (at least I >>> think it's Daniel and please feel free to correct me). I think the >>> first letter of the last name is 'B'... >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=f1ae98-1393794515.jpg >>> >>>   >>> Thank you kindly! >>> Thomas Johnson >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> >>>

How is John spelled in Baden? Thanks, Deloris On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 3:02 AM, <baden-wurttemberg-request@rootsweb.com>wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Familienbuchs (Tom Kuehn) > 2. another mysterious word (Thomas Johnson) > 3. Re: another mysterious word - FN Braumann (Patricia Stasch) > 4. Re: another mysterious word - FN Braumann (Ronald and Laura) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 09:59:48 -0500 > From: Tom Kuehn <kuehngenes@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [BW] Familienbuchs > To: "baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com" <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <CAA3C-SvgK90DReSvXYocR9um026tJn7Qj41M5LhY0PvaX= > Q9SQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Carol, > > You might have better luck just ordering a film at your local Family > History Center and search there once your film arrives. In the past I have > had more success in looking at the Taufen records, and not much luck with > the Familienbuchs. If 1870 is the timeframe the use a Taufen register that > includes that period. Some have indexes amongst the pages. For me, I just > look to find records before or after known dates and search page by page > looking for your family surname. > > The following link will show individual films available. You will need to > login to FamilySearch.org to view the available books and order the one you > are interested in. > > > https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/226907?availability=Family%20History%20Library > > Good luck! > > Tom > > On Saturday, March 1, 2014, Carol Hornung <chornung@comcast.net> wrote: > > > I have found references to Familienbuchs in the Eschelbach (A. Sinsheim) > > church records for several directly-related families, especially around > the > > 1870s. Some of the references are F.B. 128, 215, 170 and 70. > > > > > > > > I know basically what these Family Books are, but not how to locate them. > > Nothing available through LDS. > > > > > > > > This was something compiled by the church, correct? So where would I find > > someone with access to this old book - the archives in Sinsheim? in the > > Eschelbach Rathaus? The local Eschelbach church? > > > > > > > > Any suggestions gratefully appreciated. Thanks! ~Carol > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > Carol Hornung - Michigan, USA > > <mailto:chornung@comcast.net <javascript:;>> chornung@comcast.net > <javascript:;> > > > > Researching HORNUNG (Lindemann, Hendel, Eichman), BENDER (Herzel, Merkel, > > Kindler), > > MANGES (Zuefle, Mertz, Scheuerle, Steffenhagen, Denz, Bommer, Goebel, > Heil, > > Wagoner), > > and FREDERICKS (Mund, Spaulding) primarily in Germany and Western New > York > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com <javascript:;> with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 13:11:52 -0800 (PST) > From: Thomas Johnson <bachjohanns@yahoo.com> > Subject: [BW] another mysterious word > To: "baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com" <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <1393794712.72492.YahooMailNeo@web163002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hello List > I have encountered a last name which I cannot decipher, and which could > lead to further > ancestors. Could someone please help me? > > The last name in question is on the line which begins 'den 7 Marty ist > Daniel...' and which > appears after the name Daniel (at least I think it's Daniel and please > feel free to > correct me). I think the first letter of the last name is 'B'... > > > > http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=f1ae98-1393794515.jpg > > ? > Thank you kindly! > Thomas Johnson > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 00:02:13 +0100 > From: Patricia Stasch <patricia.stasch@uni-tuebingen.de> > Subject: Re: [BW] another mysterious word - FN Braumann > To: Thomas Johnson <bachjohanns@yahoo.com>, > baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <20140303000213.95056xph7jz55hf9@webmail.uni-tuebingen.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" > > > Hello Thomas, > > my guess is BRAUMANN. > > Den 7 Marty ist Daniel Braumann B?rger und Wagner zu Sessenheim und > seiner Hausfr. Anna Maria B(...) ein T?chterlein getauft und Anna > Barbara genannt worden > Taufzeugen: > > Greetings, > Patricia > > -- > > privat: > Metzinger Str. 29 > 72555 Metzingen (-Neuhausen), BW > > > ============================================================== > Patricia Stasch > Klassische Arch?ologin > Fax+Anrufbeantworter-Nr: 03212-1102645 > (Anruf wird als *.wav, Fax als *.pdf in der eMailbox abgelegt) > ============================================================== > > > Zitat von Thomas Johnson <bachjohanns@yahoo.com>: > > > Hello List > > I have encountered a last name which I cannot decipher, and which > > could lead to further > > ancestors. Could someone please help me? > > > > The last name in question is on the line which begins 'den 7 Marty > > ist Daniel...' and which > > appears after the name Daniel (at least I think it's Daniel and > > please feel free to > > correct me). I think the first letter of the last name is 'B'... > > > > > > > > http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=f1ae98-1393794515.jpg > > > > ? > > Thank you kindly! > > Thomas Johnson > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 16:14:40 -0800 (PST) > From: Ronald and Laura <rlboz@att.net> > Subject: Re: [BW] another mysterious word - FN Braumann > To: "baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com" <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <1393805680.62478.YahooMailNeo@web184302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > I looked at it but it is really hard to make out the letters... ?very > blotchy handwriting. ? > I do think there is an i in the name because of the dot that looks like a > line above a letter. ? It matches the way the letter i was written in other > words in the document but I can't tell you what that name is... > > I know not much help! > > Laura > > > > >________________________________ > > From: Patricia Stasch <patricia.stasch@uni-tuebingen.de> > >To: Thomas Johnson <bachjohanns@yahoo.com>; > baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > >Sent: Sunday, March 2, 2014 5:02 PM > >Subject: Re: [BW] another mysterious word - FN Braumann > > > > > > > >Hello Thomas, > > > >my guess is BRAUMANN. > > > >Den 7 Marty ist Daniel Braumann B?rger und Wagner zu Sessenheim und? > >seiner Hausfr. Anna Maria B(...) ein T?chterlein getauft und Anna? > >Barbara genannt worden > >Taufzeugen: > > > >Greetings, > >Patricia > > > >-- > > > >privat: > >Metzinger Str. 29 > >72555 Metzingen (-Neuhausen), BW > > > > > >============================================================== > >Patricia Stasch > >Klassische Arch?ologin > >Fax+Anrufbeantworter-Nr: 03212-1102645 > >(Anruf wird als *.wav, Fax als *.pdf in der eMailbox abgelegt) > >============================================================== > > > > > >Zitat von Thomas Johnson <bachjohanns@yahoo.com>: > > > >> Hello List > >> I have encountered a last name which I cannot decipher, and which? > >> could lead to further > >> ancestors. Could someone please help me? > >> > >> The last name in question is on the line which begins 'den 7 Marty? > >> ist Daniel...' and which > >> appears after the name Daniel (at least I think it's Daniel and? > >> please feel free to > >> correct me). I think the first letter of the last name is 'B'... > >> > >> > >> > >> http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=f1ae98-1393794515.jpg > >> > >> ? > >> Thank you kindly! > >> Thomas Johnson > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> > >> > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BADEN-WURTTEMBERG list administrator, send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BADEN-WURTTEMBERG mailing list, send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 9, Issue 55 > ************************************************ >

It is rather clear that Daniel's last name begins with "Brau", but after that it gets more difficult. It may very well be Braumann, as Patricia suggested, but something like Brauner is also possible. Also note that the name may here be not in nominative but in dative (see the next words "Bürgern und Wagnern" instead of "Bürger und Wagner", citizen and wagon-maker), so there may have been an "n" or "en" added to the actual name. So the writing may also be "Braunern" if the name was "Brauner", or even "Braunen" if it was "Braun" - Scribes would sometimes change names that way in order to be very correct. Maybe just have a look which names starting with "Brau..." existed in Sessenheim at the time. His wife's (Anna Maria) last name looks like "Büerlin" to me. René Von: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von Ronald and Laura Gesendet: Montag, 3. März 2014 01:15 An: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Betreff: Re: [BW] another mysterious word - FN Braumann I looked at it but it is really hard to make out the letters...  very blotchy handwriting. I do think there is an i in the name because of the dot that looks like a line above a letter.   It matches the way the letter i was written in other words in the document but I can't tell you what that name is... I know not much help! Laura >________________________________ > From: Patricia Stasch <patricia.stasch@uni-tuebingen.de> >To: Thomas Johnson <bachjohanns@yahoo.com>; >baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com >Sent: Sunday, March 2, 2014 5:02 PM >Subject: Re: [BW] another mysterious word - FN Braumann > > > >Hello Thomas, > >my guess is BRAUMANN. > >Den 7 Marty ist Daniel Braumann Bürger und Wagner zu Sessenheim und >seiner Hausfr. Anna Maria B(...) ein Töchterlein getauft und Anna >Barbara genannt worden >Taufzeugen: > >Greetings, >Patricia > >-- > >privat: >Metzinger Str. 29 >72555 Metzingen (-Neuhausen), BW > > >============================================================== >Patricia Stasch >Klassische Archäologin >Fax+Anrufbeantworter-Nr: 03212-1102645 >(Anruf wird als *.wav, Fax als *.pdf in der eMailbox abgelegt) >============================================================== > > >Zitat von Thomas Johnson <bachjohanns@yahoo.com>: > >> Hello List >> I have encountered a last name which I cannot decipher, and which >> could lead to further ancestors. Could someone please help me? >> >> The last name in question is on the line which begins 'den 7 Marty >> ist Daniel...' and which appears after the name Daniel (at least I >> think it's Daniel and please feel free to correct me). I think the >> first letter of the last name is 'B'... >> >> >> >> http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=f1ae98-1393794515.jpg >> >>   >> Thank you kindly! >> Thomas Johnson >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message   Sitz der Gesellschaft / Corporate Headquarters: Deutsche Lufthansa Aktiengesellschaft, Koeln, Registereintragung / Registration: Amtsgericht Koeln HR B 2168 Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats / Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Wolfgang Mayrhuber Vorstand / Executive Board: Dr. Christoph Franz (Vorsitzender / Chairman), Simone Menne, Carsten Spohr, Dr. Bettina Volkens, Harry Hohmeister  

Thank you, Patricia and Laura, for your kind comments which have given me food for thought - perhaps this ancestor's surname is NOT Baumann after all :)  I can sincerely say that if genealogy were easy, it wouldn't be as rewarding. Thomas Johnson

Hello Thomas, my guess is BRAUMANN. Den 7 Marty ist Daniel Braumann Bürger und Wagner zu Sessenheim und seiner Hausfr. Anna Maria B(...) ein Töchterlein getauft und Anna Barbara genannt worden Taufzeugen: Greetings, Patricia -- privat: Metzinger Str. 29 72555 Metzingen (-Neuhausen), BW ============================================================== Patricia Stasch Klassische Archäologin Fax+Anrufbeantworter-Nr: 03212-1102645 (Anruf wird als *.wav, Fax als *.pdf in der eMailbox abgelegt) ============================================================== Zitat von Thomas Johnson <bachjohanns@yahoo.com>: > Hello List > I have encountered a last name which I cannot decipher, and which > could lead to further > ancestors. Could someone please help me? > > The last name in question is on the line which begins 'den 7 Marty > ist Daniel...' and which > appears after the name Daniel (at least I think it's Daniel and > please feel free to > correct me). I think the first letter of the last name is 'B'... > > > > http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=f1ae98-1393794515.jpg > >   > Thank you kindly! > Thomas Johnson > > ------------------------------- > >

I looked at it but it is really hard to make out the letters...  very blotchy handwriting.   I do think there is an i in the name because of the dot that looks like a line above a letter.   It matches the way the letter i was written in other words in the document but I can't tell you what that name is... I know not much help! Laura >________________________________ > From: Patricia Stasch <patricia.stasch@uni-tuebingen.de> >To: Thomas Johnson <bachjohanns@yahoo.com>; baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com >Sent: Sunday, March 2, 2014 5:02 PM >Subject: Re: [BW] another mysterious word - FN Braumann > > > >Hello Thomas, > >my guess is BRAUMANN. > >Den 7 Marty ist Daniel Braumann Bürger und Wagner zu Sessenheim und  >seiner Hausfr. Anna Maria B(...) ein Töchterlein getauft und Anna  >Barbara genannt worden >Taufzeugen: > >Greetings, >Patricia > >-- > >privat: >Metzinger Str. 29 >72555 Metzingen (-Neuhausen), BW > > >============================================================== >Patricia Stasch >Klassische Archäologin >Fax+Anrufbeantworter-Nr: 03212-1102645 >(Anruf wird als *.wav, Fax als *.pdf in der eMailbox abgelegt) >============================================================== > > >Zitat von Thomas Johnson <bachjohanns@yahoo.com>: > >> Hello List >> I have encountered a last name which I cannot decipher, and which  >> could lead to further >> ancestors. Could someone please help me? >> >> The last name in question is on the line which begins 'den 7 Marty  >> ist Daniel...' and which >> appears after the name Daniel (at least I think it's Daniel and  >> please feel free to >> correct me). I think the first letter of the last name is 'B'... >> >> >> >> http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=f1ae98-1393794515.jpg >> >>   >> Thank you kindly! >> Thomas Johnson >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hello List I have encountered a last name which I cannot decipher, and which could lead to further ancestors. Could someone please help me? The last name in question is on the line which begins 'den 7 Marty ist Daniel...' and which appears after the name Daniel (at least I think it's Daniel and please feel free to correct me). I think the first letter of the last name is 'B'... http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=f1ae98-1393794515.jpg   Thank you kindly! Thomas Johnson

Carol, You might have better luck just ordering a film at your local Family History Center and search there once your film arrives. In the past I have had more success in looking at the Taufen records, and not much luck with the Familienbuchs. If 1870 is the timeframe the use a Taufen register that includes that period. Some have indexes amongst the pages. For me, I just look to find records before or after known dates and search page by page looking for your family surname. The following link will show individual films available. You will need to login to FamilySearch.org to view the available books and order the one you are interested in. https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/226907?availability=Family%20History%20Library Good luck! Tom On Saturday, March 1, 2014, Carol Hornung <chornung@comcast.net> wrote: > I have found references to Familienbuchs in the Eschelbach (A. Sinsheim) > church records for several directly-related families, especially around the > 1870s. Some of the references are F.B. 128, 215, 170 and 70. > > > > I know basically what these Family Books are, but not how to locate them. > Nothing available through LDS. > > > > This was something compiled by the church, correct? So where would I find > someone with access to this old book - the archives in Sinsheim? in the > Eschelbach Rathaus? The local Eschelbach church? > > > > Any suggestions gratefully appreciated. Thanks! ~Carol > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Carol Hornung - Michigan, USA > <mailto:chornung@comcast.net <javascript:;>> chornung@comcast.net<javascript:;> > > Researching HORNUNG (Lindemann, Hendel, Eichman), BENDER (Herzel, Merkel, > Kindler), > MANGES (Zuefle, Mertz, Scheuerle, Steffenhagen, Denz, Bommer, Goebel, Heil, > Wagoner), > and FREDERICKS (Mund, Spaulding) primarily in Germany and Western New York > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com <javascript:;> with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This site http://christoph.stoepel.net/geogen suggests Brengartner Brunngartner There are some results on http://meta.genealogy.net Regards, Patricia -- privat: Metzinger Str. 29 72555 Metzingen (-Neuhausen), BW ============================================================== Patricia Stasch Klassische Archäologin Fax+Anrufbeantworter-Nr: 03212-1102645 (Anruf wird als *.wav, Fax als *.pdf in der eMailbox abgelegt) ============================================================== Zitat von Deloris Girard <delorisegcltd@gmail.com>: > I wanted to see if some one could tell me how my name is spelled in Baden? > My ancestor was John Bringardner > > Thanks, > > Deloris Bringardner-Girard > > ------------------------------- > >

Thomas, it has to be a profession. I think it is "Wirth" (landlord). One of the godparents was a Wirt, too. Patricia -- privat: Metzinger Str. 29 72555 Metzingen (-Neuhausen), BW ============================================================== Patricia Stasch Klassische Archäologin Fax+Anrufbeantworter-Nr: 03212-1102645 (Anruf wird als *.wav, Fax als *.pdf in der eMailbox abgelegt) ============================================================== Zitat von Thomas Johnson <bachjohanns@yahoo.com>: > First, thank you, Patricia, for your kind help! > > The word which has me stumped is the word after 'und' in the line > which begins with the numeral 9 > > ...Jacob Jacobi Burgers und  ? > > http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=d563ce-1393703188.jpg > > thank you very much! > Thomas Johnson > > ------------------------------- > >

Carol, they are called "Familienregister" normally. For protestant churchbooks search here http://www.ekiba.de/html/content/familienforschung808.html (Baden) http://www.archiv.elk-wue.de/kirchenbuchdatenbank/ (Wuerttemberg) You can find a general introduction into the archive here http://www.archiv.elk-wue.de/family-research/ Good luck! Patricia -- privat: Metzinger Str. 29 72555 Metzingen (-Neuhausen), BW ============================================================== Patricia Stasch Klassische Archäologin Fax+Anrufbeantworter-Nr: 03212-1102645 (Anruf wird als *.wav, Fax als *.pdf in der eMailbox abgelegt) ============================================================== Zitat von Carol Hornung <chornung@comcast.net>: > I have found references to Familienbuchs in the Eschelbach (A. Sinsheim) > church records for several directly-related families, especially around the > 1870s. Some of the references are F.B. 128, 215, 170 and 70. > > > > I know basically what these Family Books are, but not how to locate them. > Nothing available through LDS. > > > > This was something compiled by the church, correct? So where would I find > someone with access to this old book - the archives in Sinsheim? in the > Eschelbach Rathaus? The local Eschelbach church? > > > > Any suggestions gratefully appreciated. Thanks! ~Carol > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Carol Hornung - Michigan, USA > <mailto:chornung@comcast.net> chornung@comcast.net > > Researching HORNUNG (Lindemann, Hendel, Eichman), BENDER (Herzel, Merkel, > Kindler), > MANGES (Zuefle, Mertz, Scheuerle, Steffenhagen, Denz, Bommer, Goebel, Heil, > Wagoner), > and FREDERICKS (Mund, Spaulding) primarily in Germany and Western New York > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >

Carol, Blow are the Eschelbach films that are available on line that I mentioned in an earlier post. These, and many, many more, are available under the heading: "Amtsgerichtsbezirk Sinsheim". These 7 films are the same ones that you can get from your local LDS but these can be read at home. Eschelbach, evangelische und israelitische Gemeinde: Standesbuch 1803-1839 Eschelbach, evangelische und israelitische Gemeinde: Standesbuch 1840-1865 Eschelbach, evangelische und israelitische Gemeinde: Standesbuch 1866-1870 Eschelbach, evangelische, israelitische Gemeinde und katholische: Standesbuch 1870-1875 Eschelbach, katholische Gemeinde: Standesbuch 1830-1849 Eschelbach, katholische Gemeinde: Standesbuch 1850-1865 Eschelbach, katholische Gemeinde: Standesbuch 1866-1870 Marvin Hoerig in WI - - still shivering -------------------------------------------------- From: "Carol Hornung" <chornung@comcast.net> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 12:27 PM To: <BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com> Subject: [BW] Familienbuchs > I have found references to Familienbuchs in the Eschelbach (A. Sinsheim) > church records for several directly-related families, especially around > the > 1870s. Some of the references are F.B. 128, 215, 170 and 70. > > > > I know basically what these Family Books are, but not how to locate them. > Nothing available through LDS. > > > > This was something compiled by the church, correct? So where would I find > someone with access to this old book - the archives in Sinsheim? in the > Eschelbach Rathaus? The local Eschelbach church? > > > > Any suggestions gratefully appreciated. Thanks! ~Carol > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Carol Hornung - Michigan, USA > <mailto:chornung@comcast.net> chornung@comcast.net > > Researching HORNUNG (Lindemann, Hendel, Eichman), BENDER (Herzel, Merkel, > Kindler), > MANGES (Zuefle, Mertz, Scheuerle, Steffenhagen, Denz, Bommer, Goebel, > Heil, > Wagoner), > and FREDERICKS (Mund, Spaulding) primarily in Germany and Western New York > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Russ, Carol, et al, I haven't read all your posts but this may be helpful. Sinsheim records are available on line at the Landesarchiv Karlsruhe. They are mainly church records for dozens of towns surrounding Sinsheim. Dates are about 1810 to 1870. I have found dozens of records for my Hörig ancestors in Rastatt, Kuppenheim, Oberndorf, Bischweier, and several other small towns near by. Try This: https://www2.landesarchiv-bw.de/ofs21/bild_zoom/zoom.php?bestand=12390&id=2557557&gewaehlteSeite=04_0001222904_0005_4-1222904-5.jpg&ausgangspunkt=thumbnails&groesseThumbnails=150&thumbnailsProSeite=5&screenbreite=1058&screenhoehe=564 Marvin Hoerig in WI - - waiting for Global Warming to find us. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Russell Lipp" <rlipp2013@frontier.com> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 2:46 PM To: "Baden-Wurtemberg mail List List" <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [BW] Familienbuchs > Carol, > > Some of my Lipp ancestors were born in Sinsheim. When I went to Salt Lake > and used the FHC microfilms, I found film LDS 1049297, that contains all > the Familienbuch for my Sinsheim ancestors. It’s a great resource, since > I was able to find lots of information about these families. I am sure > there are other Familienbuchs at FHC. > > Russ Lipp > > On Mar 1, 2014, at 1:27 PM, Carol Hornung <chornung@comcast.net> wrote: > >> I have found references to Familienbuchs in the Eschelbach (A. Sinsheim) >> church records for several directly-related families, especially around >> the >> 1870s. Some of the references are F.B. 128, 215, 170 and 70. >> >> >> >> I know basically what these Family Books are, but not how to locate them. >> Nothing available through LDS. >> >> >> >> This was something compiled by the church, correct? So where would I find >> someone with access to this old book - the archives in Sinsheim? in the >> Eschelbach Rathaus? The local Eschelbach church? >> >> >> >> Any suggestions gratefully appreciated. Thanks! ~Carol >> >> >> >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> Carol Hornung - Michigan, USA >> <mailto:chornung@comcast.net> chornung@comcast.net >> >> Researching HORNUNG (Lindemann, Hendel, Eichman), BENDER (Herzel, Merkel, >> Kindler), >> MANGES (Zuefle, Mertz, Scheuerle, Steffenhagen, Denz, Bommer, Goebel, >> Heil, >> Wagoner), >> and FREDERICKS (Mund, Spaulding) primarily in Germany and Western New >> York >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Russ - Strange that I have not come across any LIPP families in my Manges-Bender-Merkel, etc. research in Eschelbach. Were they by chance Catholic? If so, that might explain it. I see where there is a Familienbuch on film 1049297, but it doesn't look like that would include Eschelbach. However, I might send for it if other leads don't pan out. I appreciate you letting me know about being at the Sinsheim archives in April. Depending on what I find out about locating this information, I may just hire you to coordinate some lookups for me. Thanks! ~Carol ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Carol Hornung - Michigan, USA <mailto:chornung@comcast.net> chornung@comcast.net Researching HORNUNG (Lindemann, Hendel, Eichman), BENDER (Herzel, Merkel, Kindler), MANGES (Zuefle, Mertz, Scheuerle, Steffenhagen, Denz, Bommer, Goebel, Heil, Wagoner), and FREDERICKS (Mund, Spaulding) primarily in Germany and Western New York ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: Russell Lipp < rlipp2013@frontier.com <mailto:rlipp2013@frontier.com> > Subject: Re: [BW] Familienbuchs Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 15:46:06 -0500 References: <002001cf357b$dd049bb0$970dd310$@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <002001cf357b$dd049bb0$970dd310$@comcast.net> Carol, Some of my Lipp ancestors were born in Sinsheim. When I went to Salt Lake and used the FHC microfilms, I found film LDS 1049297, that contains all the Familienbuch for my Sinsheim ancestors. It's a great resource, since I was able to find lots of information about these families. I am sure there are other Familienbuchs at FHC. Russ Lipp

I wanted to see if some one could tell me how my name is spelled in Baden? My ancestor was John Bringardner Thanks, Deloris Bringardner-Girard

Carol, I also meant to add that my wife and I will be in Sinsheim this April, using the Stadt Museum archives, working with Herr Holger and his staff. Please let me know if there is anything I can look up for you. Russ Lipp On Mar 1, 2014, at 1:27 PM, Carol Hornung <chornung@comcast.net> wrote: > I have found references to Familienbuchs in the Eschelbach (A. Sinsheim) > church records for several directly-related families, especially around the > 1870s. Some of the references are F.B. 128, 215, 170 and 70. > > > > I know basically what these Family Books are, but not how to locate them. > Nothing available through LDS. > > > > This was something compiled by the church, correct? So where would I find > someone with access to this old book - the archives in Sinsheim? in the > Eschelbach Rathaus? The local Eschelbach church? > > > > Any suggestions gratefully appreciated. Thanks! ~Carol > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Carol Hornung - Michigan, USA > <mailto:chornung@comcast.net> chornung@comcast.net > > Researching HORNUNG (Lindemann, Hendel, Eichman), BENDER (Herzel, Merkel, > Kindler), > MANGES (Zuefle, Mertz, Scheuerle, Steffenhagen, Denz, Bommer, Goebel, Heil, > Wagoner), > and FREDERICKS (Mund, Spaulding) primarily in Germany and Western New York > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carol, Some of my Lipp ancestors were born in Sinsheim. When I went to Salt Lake and used the FHC microfilms, I found film LDS 1049297, that contains all the Familienbuch for my Sinsheim ancestors. It’s a great resource, since I was able to find lots of information about these families. I am sure there are other Familienbuchs at FHC. Russ Lipp On Mar 1, 2014, at 1:27 PM, Carol Hornung <chornung@comcast.net> wrote: > I have found references to Familienbuchs in the Eschelbach (A. Sinsheim) > church records for several directly-related families, especially around the > 1870s. Some of the references are F.B. 128, 215, 170 and 70. > > > > I know basically what these Family Books are, but not how to locate them. > Nothing available through LDS. > > > > This was something compiled by the church, correct? So where would I find > someone with access to this old book - the archives in Sinsheim? in the > Eschelbach Rathaus? The local Eschelbach church? > > > > Any suggestions gratefully appreciated. Thanks! ~Carol > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Carol Hornung - Michigan, USA > <mailto:chornung@comcast.net> chornung@comcast.net > > Researching HORNUNG (Lindemann, Hendel, Eichman), BENDER (Herzel, Merkel, > Kindler), > MANGES (Zuefle, Mertz, Scheuerle, Steffenhagen, Denz, Bommer, Goebel, Heil, > Wagoner), > and FREDERICKS (Mund, Spaulding) primarily in Germany and Western New York > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Extremely helpful, Patricia. Thanks! According to the website (http://www.archiv.elk-wue.de/family-research/ ), "Copies of all our microfilms are also in the possession of the Genealogical Society of Utah. For information ask: Family History Library, 35 North West Temple Street, Room 344, Salt Lake City, Utah, 84150-3440, USA." But I do not get any results mentioning Eschelbach when searching FamilySearch Catalog for Title = Familienregister. Does that indicate I need to contact the Stuttgart archive to have their staff do the research? Again, thanks for the lead! -----Original Message----- From: Patricia Stasch [mailto:patricia.stasch@uni-tuebingen.de] Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2014 2:13 PM To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com; Carol Hornung Subject: Re: [BW] Familienregister Carol, they are called "Familienregister" normally. For protestant churchbooks search here http://www.ekiba.de/html/content/familienforschung808.html (Baden) http://www.archiv.elk-wue.de/kirchenbuchdatenbank/ (Wuerttemberg) You can find a general introduction into the archive here http://www.archiv.elk-wue.de/family-research/ Good luck! Patricia -- privat: Metzinger Str. 29 72555 Metzingen (-Neuhausen), BW ============================================================== Patricia Stasch Klassische Archäologin Fax+Anrufbeantworter-Nr: 03212-1102645 (Anruf wird als *.wav, Fax als *.pdf in der eMailbox abgelegt) ============================================================== Zitat von Carol Hornung <chornung@comcast.net>: > I have found references to Familienbuchs in the Eschelbach (A. > Sinsheim) church records for several directly-related families, > especially around the 1870s. Some of the references are F.B. 128, 215, 170 and 70. > > > > I know basically what these Family Books are, but not how to locate them. > Nothing available through LDS. > > > > This was something compiled by the church, correct? So where would I > find someone with access to this old book - the archives in Sinsheim? > in the Eschelbach Rathaus? The local Eschelbach church? > > > > Any suggestions gratefully appreciated. Thanks! ~Carol > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Carol Hornung - Michigan, USA > <mailto:chornung@comcast.net> chornung@comcast.net > > Researching HORNUNG (Lindemann, Hendel, Eichman), BENDER (Herzel, > Merkel, Kindler), MANGES (Zuefle, Mertz, Scheuerle, Steffenhagen, > Denz, Bommer, Goebel, Heil, Wagoner), and FREDERICKS (Mund, Spaulding) > primarily in Germany and Western New York > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >

Hello Thomas, The word is Wirth. Its translations in decreasing order of usage are innkeeper, landlord, host. It can be combined with other nouns to make it more precise as in Gastwirt = innkeeper, Hauswirt = landlord or Gastgeber = host Greetings from California, Michael

In an 1862 Eschelbach (A. Sinsheim) birth record (illegitimate), there is a margin notation "Contractsauszug Seite 343" ("contract excerpt, page 343"?) along with the name of the child and acknowledged father. What is this Contract referring to? Thanks! ~Carol ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Carol Hornung - Michigan, USA <mailto:chornung@comcast.net> chornung@comcast.net Researching HORNUNG (Lindemann, Hendel, Eichman), BENDER (Herzel, Merkel, Kindler), MANGES (Zuefle, Mertz, Scheuerle, Steffenhagen, Denz, Bommer, Goebel, Heil, Wagoner), and FREDERICKS (Mund, Spaulding) primarily in Germany and Western New York ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~