Tonia in reading other mail, how do you find the declaration of intent? Annette Ammons On Aug 15, 2008, at 11:18 AM, TONIA NIELSEN wrote: > Jane, if you can find his Declaration of Intent or naturalization > record, it > might tell you what port he used and when he arrived. > > my great great grandfather's declaration of intent listed his birth > village, > his birth date, port he left from and when, when he arrived in > US. Luckily > he applied for naturalization in the Indiana town where he died, so it > wasn't to hard to find. > > Tonia > > On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Jane Glaser > <jglaser@surewest.net> wrote: > >> I found my husbands GGGGrandfather Matthaus Glaser's record from >> his town >> in Baiersbronn giving him and his family the OK, so to speak, to >> go to >> America. Would this be the only record there would be? How would I >> find out >> from what port they left from and where they landed in America. >> The date on >> the record is June 7, 1832. >> Thanks >> Jane Glaser >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN- > WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I know--It all depended upon how much money the family had. I can't begin to imagine how long it would take them to walk that far. It is 695 KM from Strasbourg to Le Havre--about 420 miles. I can't imagine the desparation and courage that allowed them to do this. Tonia On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 10:44 AM, <ToySchach@aol.com> wrote: > > In a message dated 8/15/2008 11:40:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > toniraye@dishmail.net writes: > > Hi All > > Not to long ago, someone posted information about railroads in Baden and > said that our ancestors might have used the railroads to help them reach a > sea port. I started reaching Trains in Germany and France since my great, > great grandfather left Baden in 1837 and went to Le Havre to catch the > ship. > > I discovered that the first long distance train was not completed until > April 1839. It was from Leipzig to Dresden. gr, gr, grandpa could not > have > used that. I also discovered that France did not start building long > distance railways until 1842. gr, gr grandpa could not have used that. > > However, I discovered that France is/was full of canals which connect all > of > their major cities and that these canals were used to move crops and > people > until the railroads developed. Also no one has mentioned the stagecoach > which was in use in Europe and England long before it ever came to the US. > So, if gr, gr, grandpa had a little money--don't know what these things > cost > to ride, didn't find a site that covered that--he could have loaded his > clothes, food, and family on a canal barge and rode them for quite a > distance. So, down the Rhine River to Strasbourg and then onto the canals > for as far as possible to eventually reach Le HAvre. > > Tonia > > > > Many hitched the family cow to a cart and rode or walked along side to Le > Harve. Then sold the cart and cow before departing on the ship. > > Kent > > > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > ( > http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Annette, Naturaliztions records are usually stored in the county court house where it occurred. The 1850 mortality records told me that my gr gr grandfather had died in Dearborn County, Indiana. So I checked their naturalization records for him. Lots of these records have been filmed by the LDS and you can order the microfilm once you know the county. The US census records will tell you if your ancestor became a citizen and will also tell you the year. Once you know that year, you need to review the county records. For example, the census told me that my husband 's great grandfather became a citizen in 1896. He was living in New York at the time. Just recently, I was able to get a copy of one of his son's passport application and found that they were living in Staten Island. So now I know which county to contact for his naturalization records. Hope i answered your question. On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Annette Ammons <ammons@watchtv.net> wrote: > Tonia in reading other mail, how do you find the declaration of > intent? Annette Ammons > On Aug 15, 2008, at 11:18 AM, TONIA NIELSEN wrote: > > > Jane, if you can find his Declaration of Intent or naturalization > > record, it > > might tell you what port he used and when he arrived. > > > > my great great grandfather's declaration of intent listed his birth > > village, > > his birth date, port he left from and when, when he arrived in > > US. Luckily > > he applied for naturalization in the Indiana town where he died, so it > > wasn't to hard to find. > > > > Tonia > > > > On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Jane Glaser > > <jglaser@surewest.net> wrote: > > > >> I found my husbands GGGGrandfather Matthaus Glaser's record from > >> his town > >> in Baiersbronn giving him and his family the OK, so to speak, to > >> go to > >> America. Would this be the only record there would be? How would I > >> find out > >> from what port they left from and where they landed in America. > >> The date on > >> the record is June 7, 1832. > >> Thanks > >> Jane Glaser > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN- > > WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi All Not to long ago, someone posted information about railroads in Baden and said that our ancestors might have used the railroads to help them reach a sea port. I started reaching Trains in Germany and France since my great, great grandfather left Baden in 1837 and went to Le Havre to catch the ship. I discovered that the first long distance train was not completed until April 1839. It was from Leipzig to Dresden. gr, gr, grandpa could not have used that. I also discovered that France did not start building long distance railways until 1842. gr, gr grandpa could not have used that. However, I discovered that France is/was full of canals which connect all of their major cities and that these canals were used to move crops and people until the railroads developed. Also no one has mentioned the stagecoach which was in use in Europe and England long before it ever came to the US. So, if gr, gr, grandpa had a little money--don't know what these things cost to ride, didn't find a site that covered that--he could have loaded his clothes, food, and family on a canal barge and rode them for quite a distance. So, down the Rhine River to Strasbourg and then onto the canals for as far as possible to eventually reach Le HAvre. Tonia

Jane, if you can find his Declaration of Intent or naturalization record, it might tell you what port he used and when he arrived. my great great grandfather's declaration of intent listed his birth village, his birth date, port he left from and when, when he arrived in US. Luckily he applied for naturalization in the Indiana town where he died, so it wasn't to hard to find. Tonia On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Jane Glaser <jglaser@surewest.net> wrote: > I found my husbands GGGGrandfather Matthaus Glaser's record from his town > in Baiersbronn giving him and his family the OK, so to speak, to go to > America. Would this be the only record there would be? How would I find out > from what port they left from and where they landed in America. The date on > the record is June 7, 1832. > Thanks > Jane Glaser > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Your email is the first I've received admitting to the madness in the different spelling of one's last name. I'm glad I am not the only one : ) Dave --- On Fri, 8/15/08, Kathleen March <Kathleen_March@umit.maine.edu> wrote: > From: Kathleen March <Kathleen_March@umit.maine.edu> > Subject: Re: [BW] Stroebele > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, August 15, 2008, 8:38 AM > davidstroebel@yahoo.com writes: > >I found my ggrandfather yesterday on > www.castlegarden.org. I did a search for "Str*" > (with the asterict *) and between 1883 and 1885. They have > his last name spelled differently, as "Strobl" > When will the variations in spelling stop! I have seen it > >spelled 7 different ways in my research. > > And as I've posted previously, the variations on > <March> have been so many Mrz and Moares are still my > favorites... ) that I am really discouraged at finding > Hilimire in its original form. Trumeter has at least 5 > versions as well, with Trumda my > favorite - and pretty good proof that the surname, which in > a borderland area, was pronounced by its owner with a French > rather than a German accent. > > Am cringing at the thought of going after the Johann Simon > Mörz I discovered alongside Karl, with an emigration date > of 1851. They're probably related, since they are also > listed as having same origin, but he hasn't surfaced yet > in my internet > wanderings. > > It's a wonder we find anybody, even with all the > technology and international communication. And it is still > hard to find the wives' original last names. > > Kathleen > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

(Note: replying back to entire list for the benefit of all since valuable info is contained about spelling errors in last names on castlegarden.org) Kathleen, I found my ggrandfather yesterday on www.castlegarden.org. I did a search for "Str*" (with the asterict *) and between 1883 and 1885. They have his last name spelled differently, as "Strobl" When will the variations in spelling stop! I have seen it spelled 7 different ways in my research. I know he did not come with wife Bertha and three kids in 1883 because she was listed on the ship lists with the children, but no husband. I saw the original photocopy of the list. Now I can move on and find where he was born and find his parents and siblings. Thank you for your kind help. The more I learn about Germany, the more I love it. - David

I found my husbands GGGGrandfather Matthaus Glaser's record from his town in Baiersbronn giving him and his family the OK, so to speak, to go to America. Would this be the only record there would be? How would I find out from what port they left from and where they landed in America. The date on the record is June 7, 1832. Thanks Jane Glaser

davidstroebel@yahoo.com writes: >Yes, that's them. What database was I looking at and will it tell me something other tahn Sigmaringen? David, I tried Johann in a lot of ways, including range of dates and alternate spellings. Again, I know little compared to most on this list, but he must be in another database. You said he left later - I find that very odd, for the wife and children to travel alone and leave first! Not doubting you, just that it sounds like there's real story here. he hasn't appeared yet for you, but he will. The database is the same one where I miraculously found my own line's starting point (which is now going to help me trace in Württemberg in Hardthausen am Kocher): >http://www.auswanderer-bw.de/auswanderer/index.php?sprache=en Landesarchiv baden-Württemberg. It took me at least 5 years to get to my line. It sounds silly, but I was almost in tears to think I had gotten so much closer by simply clicking on the right links. And by lurking on this list. Now that one of my lines is anchored in Niederroedern and another in Württemberg, I can hope the trip to their roots (because after all, this is about the roots of the ggggrandparents more than about ours) will happen. It was frustrating for me last December to be in Germany for the first time for a conference and know I could not do any further investigation of a genealogical sort because I did not have more specific information. I am now only missing the very elusive Hilimire line, which has zillions of spellings on both sides of the Atlantic. Knowing German and other languages as well as European history is the best way to maneuver a lot of this territory. If it's important enough, we will get where we want to go. Even if going looks more like plodding a lot of the time : ) Much luck in your serach. Kathleen March (Mörz)

davidstroebel@yahoo.com writes: >I just discovered that I could not find any record of my great grandparents leaving germany for America on the Baden-Wurttemberg emmigration site at http://www.auswanderer-bw.de > >Castle Gardens Immigration center web site reads that they lived in Sigmaringen, Germany. Sigmaringen is in the state of Baden-Wurttemberg. Why then can't I find either of them even when I try to spell their names 6 different ways? > >Before leaving for the USA in 1883, both great grandparents worked in the home of Kaiser Wilhem I. Is it possible they worked in Berlin? > >Their names are Johann Stroebele and Bertha (Arnold) Stroebele. They came over with 3 small boys, one being an infant (11 months old). Johann came over after Bertha, but unsure when. He was a shoemaker. David, I found this - are these the boys? STROEBELE ADOLPH 4 1883 STROEBELE JOHANN 7 1883 STROEBELE OTTO 11 MONTHS 1883 http://www.dad-recherche.de/hmb/search_engl.asp?Nachname=Stroebele&Vorname=&Geschlecht=M&Datum=1883&Datum2=&Datum3= Then I found this: STROEBELE BERTHA 32 1883 http://www.dad-recherche.de/hmb/search_engl.asp?Nachname=Stroebele&Vorname=Bertha&Geschlecht=F&Datum=1883&Datum2=&Datum3= Kathleen

Hi Kathleen, Yes, that's them. What database was I looking at and will it tell me something other tahn Sigmaringen? Dave --- On Thu, 8/14/08, Kathleen March <Kathleen_March@umit.maine.edu> wrote: > From: Kathleen March <Kathleen_March@umit.maine.edu> > Subject: [BW] Stroebele > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 4:28 PM > davidstroebel@yahoo.com writes: > >I just discovered that I could not find any record of > my great grandparents leaving germany for America on the > Baden-Wurttemberg emmigration site at > http://www.auswanderer-bw.de > > > >Castle Gardens Immigration center web site reads that > they lived in Sigmaringen, Germany. Sigmaringen is in the > state of Baden-Wurttemberg. Why then can't I find > either of them even when I try to spell their names 6 > different ways? > > > >Before leaving for the USA in 1883, both great > grandparents worked in the home of Kaiser Wilhem I. Is it > possible they worked in Berlin? > > > >Their names are Johann Stroebele and Bertha (Arnold) > Stroebele. They came over with 3 small boys, one being an > infant (11 months old). Johann came over after Bertha, but > unsure when. He was a shoemaker. > > David, I found this - are these the boys? > > STROEBELE > ADOLPH > 4 > 1883 > > STROEBELE > JOHANN > 7 > 1883 > > STROEBELE > OTTO > 11 MONTHS > 1883 > > > > > http://www.dad-recherche.de/hmb/search_engl.asp?Nachname=Stroebele&Vorname=&Geschlecht=M&Datum=1883&Datum2=&Datum3= > > Then I found this: > > STROEBELE > BERTHA > 32 > 1883 > > http://www.dad-recherche.de/hmb/search_engl.asp?Nachname=Stroebele&Vorname=Bertha&Geschlecht=F&Datum=1883&Datum2=&Datum3= > > > Kathleen > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

David, We don't often get a member who descends from the third (yes, third) country that made up Baden-Wuerttemberg, so you have a bit of distinction here. That "third" country is Hohenzollern, which came in two pieces, the relevant one of which was Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen (earldom or duchy, depending on time frame). I'm no expert on Hohenzollern, and there isn't room here for a discussion of this rather complex, if small, entity, but you can find all kinds of stuff in the list archives and online via Google. I recommend that you spend a little time reading up on it. For now, suffice it to say that Hohenzollern was a branch of the (Prussian) Imperial family, and up to 1849 the Prince (Fuerst) of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen owed allegiance to the King of Prussia, which goes a long way toward explaining the connection your folks appear to have to the court. You should really have a lot of fun with this! Finding your ancestral village is not going to be a simple matter, I suspect! . I haven't been in Sigmaringen since the mid-1970s, but my recollection is of a picturesque small city and castle which was inhabited by the current pretender to the Imperial throne. Regards, Ted Snediker -------------- Original message -------------- From: David Stroebel <davidstroebel@yahoo.com> > On Ancestry.com I see that my great grandmother's residence was listed as > "Sigmaringen, Germany". Problem is that there are 9 towns that make up > Sigmaringen District, one of those towns is also called Sigmaringen. > > Does anyone know if the information that is typically listed as the emmigrants > last residence is the town, or larger area like a county or district? I need to > know this so I can focus on one of the other 8 towns as the birthplace of my > great uncles. > > Thanks > > -David > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have some info on the Lichtenberger family and contact(s) to the family. My great grandmother was a Lichtenberger. Please email me. Don Patrie Palm Bay FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Eggers" <msgene@mac.com> To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [BW] Franz Lichtenberger/Grünwettersbach Thanks bill for the information. Judy On Aug 13, 2008, at 10:38 PM, Tpsamer@aol.com wrote: > > A review of the Emigration from Southwest-Germany database for the > name > Lichtenberger comes up with the following individuals for the > emigration year > 1891 from Grünwettersbach. > J. Eggers Msgene@mac.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1611 - Release Date: 8/14/2008 6:20 AM

Thanks bill for the information. Judy On Aug 13, 2008, at 10:38 PM, Tpsamer@aol.com wrote: > > A review of the Emigration from Southwest-Germany database for the > name > Lichtenberger comes up with the following individuals for the > emigration year > 1891 from Grünwettersbach. > J. Eggers Msgene@mac.com

I just discovered that I could not find any record of my great grandparents leaving germany for America on the Baden-Wurttemberg emmigration site at http://www.auswanderer-bw.de Castle Gardens Immigration center web site reads that they lived in Sigmaringen, Germany. Sigmaringen is in the state of Baden-Wurttemberg. Why then can't I find either of them even when I try to spell their names 6 different ways? Before leaving for the USA in 1883, both great grandparents worked in the home of Kaiser Wilhem I. Is it possible they worked in Berlin? Their names are Johann Stroebele and Bertha (Arnold) Stroebele. They came over with 3 small boys, one being an infant (11 months old). Johann came over after Bertha, but unsure when. He was a shoemaker. Thanks Dave

On Ancestry.com I see that my great grandmother's residence was listed as "Sigmaringen, Germany". Problem is that there are 9 towns that make up Sigmaringen District, one of those towns is also called Sigmaringen. Does anyone know if the information that is typically listed as the emmigrants last residence is the town, or larger area like a county or district? I need to know this so I can focus on one of the other 8 towns as the birthplace of my great uncles. Thanks -David

A review of the Emigration from Southwest-Germany database for the name Lichtenberger comes up with the following individuals for the emigration year 1891 from Grünwettersbach. 1) Fr. Wwe Lichtenberger 2) Luise Lichtenberger, birth Sept.12, 1854 3) Adolf Lichtenberger, son of Luise, birth February 21, 1878 4) Berta Lichtenberger, daughter of Luise, birth March 5, 1889 This web site can be found at: _http://www.la-bw.de/sixcms/detail.php?template=a_artikel&id=6591&sprache=en_ (http://www.la-bw.de/sixcms/detail.php?template=a_artikel&id=6591&sprache=en) Bill A. **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

Dear List Further to this thread, could anyone "rate" these (German) form letters? And, if they would retain their integrity if one just inserted translations for the specifics (events, documents, relationships) as suggested? Free Form Letters (5 languages): http://genealogy.about.com/od/free_charts/ Free_Genealogy_Charts_Forms_Family_Tree_Chart.htm (this link was taken from a larger list of resources at http://www.bcgs.ca/Genealogy%20Forms.htm) plus (partial) Terminology Section : http://www.genealogy.com/ger_words.html There are two letters available in German (pasted below from these links): 1. to an institution: http://www.genealogy.com/ltr_ger_inst.html 2. to a relative: http://www.genealogy.com/ltr_ger_fam.html Many thanks Caroline Lund ---- Institutional letter Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, für die Erstellung meines Familienstammbaums benötige ich eine Kopie einer/eines <record type> für meine(n) <your relationship to this person> <full name of person>. Der/die <name of event> fand am bzw. um den <date> in <town, county, state of event> statt. Der Name der Eltern dieser Person ist <parents' names, if you know them>. Anbei ein Scheck zur Begleichung Ihrer Unkosten sowie ein freigemachter und adressierter Rückumschlag. Vielen Dank für Ihre Bemühungen. Mit freundlichen Grüßen <Your Name> Relative letter Liebe/r <your relative's name>, Vielleicht ist Dir bekannt, daß ich Informationen zu unserer Familiengeschichte sammele. Zur Zeit arbeite ich an der Linie der <surname>s unserer Familie, und ich würde mich freuen, wenn Du irgendwelche Informationen über sie hättest, die Du mir geben könntest. Ich interessiere mich besonders für Personalien wie Namen und Geburtsdaten von <names of specific people>. Vielen Dank für Deine Bemühungen. Wenn Du möchtest, schicke ich Dir natürlich gerne die Informationen zu, die ich bereits zu dieser Linie gesammelt habe. Dein/e <Your Name>

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 Dieter Joos wrote: "About civil records - In the the German Empire civil registration were introduced by law in not until 1875. In the time before the German states handled the civil registration separately. In W?rttemberg the king ordered 1808 that the minister of the church had to act as his registrator of the civil records. In this function the minister had to deliver copies of his records to the administration in Stuttgart. Today these are preserved in the uptstaatsarchiv in Stuttgart. About missing records - It is well known that the present copies of the 'civil' records in the Hauptstaatsarchiv in Stuttgart are not complete. About half of the records are missing as a German researcher found out recently." The films of the Kirchenbuecher of the Catholic Church in Hohenberg-Rosenberg were filmed at the Katholische Volksbüro in Ludwigsburg during December of 1971. Volume 2 of the familien register - the one I need - is missing from the films. Should there also be copies of these church records in the Hauptstaatsarchiv in Stuttgart? I am also attempting to contact the pastor in Rosenberg to ask if he knows whether or not volume 2 exists. Fred Kopfler

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