Michael, thanks for your quick reply. I don't know Wilhelm's wife's surname, only that her first name was Caroline. I have absolutely no information regarding Wilhelm's ancestors, only that he was born about 1823. Wilhelm immigrated to the US after 1848, since Wilhelm & Caroline's daughter, Ernestine was born in 1848 in Wuerttemberg, Germany. She married a John (gustav) Bischoff in Camden, NJ and settled in Winslow Township, NJ. I know that Ernestine came over with siblings and unaccompanied by her parents on a difficult voyage, according to hand-wirtten notes left in family "treasures". Her emmigration application was filed in Horkheim. But I can find no record of her or her family living there either. Any suggestions? thanks for your help. Barbara Friis

List manager you can block these kinds of messages from posting........... -----Original Message----- From: Janice Teller <pulse@mx.plaxo.com> To: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:59 am Subject: [BW] Janice Teller added you as a business connection on Plaxo Hi Baden, Janice Teller wants to add you as a business connection on Plaxo. To accept this connection request, go to: http://pulse.plaxo.com/pulse/invite?i=40974811&k=2079396357&l=en&src=email&et=1&est=business&etv=nnic1a&el=en Thanks! The Plaxo team More than 20 million people use Plaxo to keep in touch with the people they care about. Don't want to receive emails from Plaxo any more? Go to: http://www.plaxo.com/stop?src=email&et=1&est=business&etv=nnic1a&el=en ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Our spam filter for the site must be down. If you're listening Janice, get lost. Eric Schaal -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janice Teller Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 10:00 AM To: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BW] Janice Teller added you as a business connection on Plaxo Hi Baden, Janice Teller wants to add you as a business connection on Plaxo. To accept this connection request, go to: http://pulse.plaxo.com/pulse/invite?i=40974811&k=2079396357&l=en&src=email&e t=1&est=business&etv=nnic1a&el=en Thanks! The Plaxo team More than 20 million people use Plaxo to keep in touch with the people they care about. Don't want to receive emails from Plaxo any more? Go to: http://www.plaxo.com/stop?src=email&et=1&est=business&etv=nnic1a&el=en ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Eric, This is a great site !!! It's been several years and it took me a while to get up to speed again. In the past, I had printed lists of certain surnames in columns, similar to what they have on the site. My old lists look like they were cut an pasted to an Excel spread sheet. I expect, given enough time, I will again master that trick too. Thank you again for the address. Marvin Hoerig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Schaal" <eschaal1@comcast.net> To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [BW] Auswanderer's List >I just went on the site I use and it's working. That URL is > www.auswanderer-bw.de. Eric Schaal > > -----Original Message----- > From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marv Hoerig > Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 7:09 PM > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BW] Auswanderer's List > > Has anyone had any luck reaching the BW Auswanderer's web page ? I have > tried the original URL and several others that have been posted and none > work. > > Marvin Hoerig >

I just went on the site I use and it's working. That URL is www.auswanderer-bw.de. Eric Schaal -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marv Hoerig Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 7:09 PM To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Subject: [BW] Auswanderer's List Has anyone had any luck reaching the BW Auswanderer's web page ? I have tried the original URL and several others that have been posted and none work. Marvin Hoerig ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Has anyone had any luck reaching the BW Auswanderer's web page ? I have tried the original URL and several others that have been posted and none work. Marvin Hoerig

Hi Linnell, The original German title of this book is: Odenheimer Familienbuch Author: Klaus Roessler This book is available in German (!!) only. Please be aware of this before purchasing a copy. A brief summary of this book can be found here: http://www.odna.de/frames/start-frame.htm When you scroll down this page you'll find a section titled: Odenheimer Auswanderer im 18. und 19. Jahrhundert (Emigrants from Odenheim in the 18. and 19. century) May be you'll find the families / names you're interested in. To buy a copy of this book you need to contact the "Heimatkundlicher Arbeitskreis Odenheim" at hao-info@odna.de Unfortunately they don't mention the price of this book. Hope this helps, Vera Nagel, Bad Soden, Germany >Message: 8 >Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:45:54 -0600 >From: "RON KUNAVICH" <dpcmusnret@comcast.net> >Subject: [BW] THE ODENHEIM FAMILY BOOK >To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <001601c90925$289a2380$6401a8c0@yourxu5v9frokn> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >I need your assistance. Much to my amazement - I discovered a website in which Alex Calzareth posted the Freund genealogy. The citation he uses is from a >book entitled, "The Odenheim Family Book" by Klaus R?ssler. I am very interested in purchasing a copy of this book. Is this possible? Does anyone have a >resource ? Please, I need your help. Thank you. Linnell

Kent, Eric, Klaus, Fred, Annette - Thanks for the help finding my Sterr ancestors in Neckarhausen. It was way more than I hoped for. And that is him spelled wrong (Starr) in the 1880 census. Mystery solved. Thank you! Danke! Cathy

I actually have a CD version of the book. If you are looking for the Freund section, I can make a copy and send it to you. Why don't you email me off of this site at eschaal1@comcast.net and we can discuss? Eric -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of RON KUNAVICH Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 9:46 AM To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Subject: [BW] THE ODENHEIM FAMILY BOOK I need your assistance. Much to my amazement - I discovered a website in which Alex Calzareth posted the Freund genealogy. The citation he uses is from a book entitled, "The Odenheim Family Book" by Klaus RÖssler. I am very interested in purchasing a copy of this book. Is this possible? Does anyone have a resource ? Please, I need your help. Thank you. Linnell ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Linnell. At first blush "The Odenheim Family Book" by Klaus Rössler would be about the Odenheim family. It is actually about the families of the village of Odenheim. It is what is usually called an ortfamillienbuch (OFB) or an ortssippenbuch (OSB). The online LDS Family History Library catalog shows they have a copy, but, unfortunately, it is not on microfilm, so it cannot be rented at your local LDS Family History Center. You can only see their copy in the FHL in Salt Lake City. ====================== Familienbuch (Ortssippenbuch) von Odenheim (Landkreis Karlsruhe) Rössler, Klaus (Main Author) Family lineages for Odenheim, Baden. ====================== The village records that it is based on are on microfilm and can be rented. ====================== Kirchenbuch, 1661-1962 Evangelisch-Reformierte Kirche Elsenz (A. Eppingen) (Main Author) Parish registers of baptisms, marriages, deaths, confirmations, communions, pedigrees and indexes for Elsenz. Includes Wiesloch in the early years. Also includes Odenheim. Includes both Lutheran and Reformed churches. Kirchenbuch, 1695-1900 Katholische Kirche Odenheim (A. Bruchsal) (Main Author) Parish register of Odenheim, births, marriages, deaths, confirmations. ====================== If you still want to purchase a copy go to http://user.baden-online.de/~ksiefert/ It is listed there at 37,50 Euros (about US$55+). The shipping cost will probably about 15 Euros and the cost of purchasing a Euro check will probably be US$15-20. That brings the total cost to just about US$100. Contact Klaus Siefert, he may accept some other method of payment (credit card, PayPay, or US$ check) At 10:39 AM 8/28/2008, you wrote: >From: "RON KUNAVICH" <dpcmusnret@comcast.net> >Subject: [BW] THE ODENHEIM FAMILY BOOK >To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > >I need your assistance. Much to my amazement - >I discovered a website in which Alex Calzareth >posted the Freund genealogy. The citation he >uses is from a book entitled, "The Odenheim >Family Book" by Klaus R?ssler. I am very >interested in purchasing a copy of this >book. Is this possible? Does anyone have a >resource ? Please, I need your help. Thank you. Linnell No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.11/1639 - Release Date: 8/28/2008 7:39 AM ____________________________________________________________ Want to put your personal touch on your home? Click for home improvement ideas and tips. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/Ioyw6i4uDF5a85OzEFPdGQL52aS5DtQL7jfb9Z6Vt9x0kzrDT1J0Ac/

The Christian Ranknecht on the 1880 Ohio census might be Christian Friederich Bauknecht born 8 sep 1857 also in Neckarhausen. He was age 24 on the census. Kent In a message dated 8/28/2008 12:42:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, eschaal1@comcast.net writes: It's me again. Sorry to be so intrusive, but this avocation is addicting. When I go to the IGI website and find the town of Neckarhausen. There is just one set of records, births from the Protestant (Evangelische)church. Here you will find the Johann Carl I mentioned earlier plus a whole lot of other Sterrs plus, and here's the bigger news, a lot of people named Eisinger, including a woman named Anna Elisabetha Eisinger, born 28 January 1842. The Toledo census report showed John Carl's wife as 8 years younger than her husband. That's close enough to be a possibility for your ancestors since the census may have come after her birthday and before his, in which case we would think of them as being 9 years apart. Anyhow I hope this is of value, and may unlock some paths which had been eluding you. Best luck. Eric **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

Hi again There is also an Anna Elisabeth Eisinger born in Neckarhausen 28 Jan 1842 again on family search. Could this be your ancester? Do you have a age from the census records? They may be other Anna Elisabeth Eisinger's in this area that are not on familyseearch.org. I have many of the films for the 51 villages in the Nürtingen district. Kent In a message dated 8/28/2008 10:09:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ToySchach writes: Hi Cathy In familysearch.org put in Johann carl ; Sterr ; birth/christening ; 1833 ; + - 2 years, Germany ; Wuerttemberg. He is there. I happen to have most of the Neckarhausen films on loan. There are also Eisinger in this area. District of Nürtingen. I can look for a marriage next time I'm at the Family History Center. Kent In a message dated 8/28/2008 9:44:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, neallfamily@gmail.com writes: Eric, Thank you! That could explain why I could never find him in the census - I knew he had to be there. I can't get on Heritage Quest right now to confirm, but it seems right. Also, I can't find a Johann Carl Sterr on familysearch.org - but there are other Sterrs (Johann Jacob) from Neckarhausen. What am I doing wrong? I really appreciate your help. Cathy **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

Hi Cathy In familysearch.org put in Johann carl ; Sterr ; birth/christening ; 1833 ; + - 2 years, Germany ; Wuerttemberg. He is there. I happen to have most of the Neckarhausen films on loan. There are also Eisinger in this area. District of Nürtingen. I can look for a marriage next time I'm at the Family History Center. Kent In a message dated 8/28/2008 9:44:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, neallfamily@gmail.com writes: Eric, Thank you! That could explain why I could never find him in the census - I knew he had to be there. I can't get on Heritage Quest right now to confirm, but it seems right. Also, I can't find a Johann Carl Sterr on familysearch.org - but there are other Sterrs (Johann Jacob) from Neckarhausen. What am I doing wrong? I really appreciate your help. Cathy **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

I need your assistance. Much to my amazement - I discovered a website in which Alex Calzareth posted the Freund genealogy. The citation he uses is from a book entitled, "The Odenheim Family Book" by Klaus RÖssler. I am very interested in purchasing a copy of this book. Is this possible? Does anyone have a resource ? Please, I need your help. Thank you. Linnell

Eric, Thank you! That could explain why I could never find him in the census - I knew he had to be there. I can't get on Heritage Quest right now to confirm, but it seems right. Also, I can't find a Johann Carl Sterr on familysearch.org - but there are other Sterrs (Johann Jacob) from Neckarhausen. What am I doing wrong? I really appreciate your help. Cathy

Sorry everyone! I tried imbedding the screen in email. It did not display properly even though it looked fine in my outgoing message. Cathy, Narrow you search by selecting the German state Wuerttemberg and you will get 10 records...one of which is your Johann Carl Sterr. Annette Annette Vliet <amvliet18038@yahoo.com> wrote: Cathy, See below. You should get 10 records. Annette Father Last Name *First Name *Last Name [input] [input] [input] [input] Mother Last Name Spouse Last Name [input] [input] [input] [input] Event Year Year Range All Birth/Christening Marriage Death/Burial Other [input] Exact year+ or - 2 years+ or - 5 years+ or - 10 years+ or - 20 years Region Country State Province County ... State Province County ... None SelectedAfricaAsiaBritish IslesCaribbean IslandsCentral AmericaContinental EuropeDenmarkFinlandGermanyIcelandMexicoNorth AmericaNorwayOcean IslandsSouth AmericaSouthwest EuropeSouthwest PacificSwedenWorld Misc. All StatesState UnknownBadenBayern (Bavaria)Hessen (Hesse-Darmstadt)Preussen (Prussia)Sachsen (Saxony)Thuringen (Thuringia)Wuerttemberg Cathy Neall wrote: Eric, Thank you! That could explain why I could never find him in the census - I knew he had to be there. I can't get on Heritage Quest right now to confirm, but it seems right. Also, I can't find a Johann Carl Sterr on familysearch.org - but there are other Sterrs (Johann Jacob) from Neckarhausen. What am I doing wrong? I really appreciate your help. Cathy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It's me again. Sorry to be so intrusive, but this avocation is addicting. When I go to the IGI website and find the town of Neckarhausen. There is just one set of records, births from the Protestant (Evangelische)church. Here you will find the Johann Carl I mentioned earlier plus a whole lot of other Sterrs plus, and here's the bigger news, a lot of people named Eisinger, including a woman named Anna Elisabetha Eisinger, born 28 January 1842. The Toledo census report showed John Carl's wife as 8 years younger than her husband. That's close enough to be a possibility for your ancestors since the census may have come after her birthday and before his, in which case we would think of them as being 9 years apart. Anyhow I hope this is of value, and may unlock some paths which had been eluding you. Best luck. Eric -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Annette Vliet Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:09 AM To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BW] Sterr Cathy, See below. You should get 10 records. Annette Father Last Name *First Name *Last Name [input] [input] [input] [input] Mother Last Name Spouse Last Name [input] [input] [input] [input] Event Year Year Range All Birth/Christening Marriage Death/Burial Other [input] Exact year+ or - 2 years+ or - 5 years+ or - 10 years+ or - 20 years Region Country State Province County .. State Province County .. None SelectedAfricaAsiaBritish IslesCaribbean IslandsCentral AmericaContinental EuropeDenmarkFinlandGermanyIcelandMexicoNorth AmericaNorwayOcean IslandsSouth AmericaSouthwest EuropeSouthwest PacificSwedenWorld Misc. All StatesState UnknownBadenBayern (Bavaria)Hessen (Hesse-Darmstadt)Preussen (Prussia)Sachsen (Saxony)Thuringen (Thuringia)Wuerttemberg Cathy Neall <neallfamily@gmail.com> wrote: Eric, Thank you! That could explain why I could never find him in the census - I knew he had to be there. I can't get on Heritage Quest right now to confirm, but it seems right. Also, I can't find a Johann Carl Sterr on familysearch.org - but there are other Sterrs (Johann Jacob) from Neckarhausen. What am I doing wrong? I really appreciate your help. Cathy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cathy, I just tried it again. If you type in the name Johann Carl Sterr, select Germany as the country of origin and use the date 1832 with a range of 2 years for his birthdate, you should get a three part listing. One is the ancestral file, then the international genealogical index, then a pedigree resource file. The name Johann Carl Sterr appears in the second listing. You should be able to find it. Eric p.s. I went looking in the Auswanderer site for emigration. There was no Johann Carl, but there was a couple of young people, Johann Georg Sterr and a woman named Sterr without a first name, registered to emigrate from Nuertingen, a county southeast of Stuttgart--this would definitely be Swabia--in the year 1854. Do a general search on that site for the name Sterr emigrating in the 19th century to Nordamerika and you'll find them. Even if it's not your person, it may be family and will tell you where in Germany to look for your own ancestor. -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cathy Neall Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:16 AM To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BW] Sterr Eric, Thank you! That could explain why I could never find him in the census - I knew he had to be there. I can't get on Heritage Quest right now to confirm, but it seems right. Also, I can't find a Johann Carl Sterr on familysearch.org - but there are other Sterrs (Johann Jacob) from Neckarhausen. What am I doing wrong? I really appreciate your help. Cathy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cathy, According to the brief history of Swabia (http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/wiki/Swabia), the area was never more than a duchy and even then it was dissolved in 1268. But by 1832 the region was the Kingdom of Würtemberg, The Kingdom of Hohenzollern, the Grandduchy of Baden, part of the Kingdom of Bavaria, part of Switzerland, and part of Alsace. To this day the people are still called Swabians and speak a different dialect of German. At 02:00 AM 8/28/2008, you wrote: >From: "Cathy Neall" <neallfamily@gmail.com> >Subject: [BW] Sterr >To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > >I've hit a wall - maybe somebody can help with this. According to >family letters my gr.gr. grandfather John Carl Sterr was born in 'The >Kingdom of Swabia' about 1832. My understanding is that at least part >of that kingdom was later known as Baden-Wurttemberg. Correct? He >married Anna Elizabeth (or Elizabeth Anna) Eisinger mid 19th C., then >he came to America before the Civil War, the family following in 1867. >They ended up in Toledo. I would like to know a town/district or >county where he came from. Haven't been able to find any immigration >or emmigration records. Any thoughts? > >Thanks! Cathy Neall No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.10/1638 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 7:06 PM ____________________________________________________________ Click for free info on getting an MBA, $200K/ year potential. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/Ioyw6i4s3KrZKBxXVYpMNz8oPgRg8uEvMat93n5QL1iD1iSO8tkKg8/