HI Dave: Hudson Co. is where a lot of the "Links" lived in the late 1800 and 1900's We are going to have to see if we can connect. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Stroebel" <davidstroebel@yahoo.com> To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [BW] Link genealogy > Here you go Sally... > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GScid=99981&GSln=stroebele > > > -Dave > > > > --- On Mon, 9/22/08, Russ and Sally <scott1@embarqmail.com> wrote: > >> From: Russ and Sally <scott1@embarqmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [BW] Link genealogy >> To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com >> Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 6:32 AM >> Hi Dave: What cemetary and what are the names of your Aunt >> and uncle. I >> know some are buried at Cavalery(or something close) in >> Middle Villiage Long >> Island NY some in Holy Name Cemetary around Jersey City, NJ >> some In Clove >> Cemetary in Sussex, NJ Send me names and dates and Places, >> I have the Links >> back to 1600's in Bavaria/Germany my e mail >> scott1@embarqmail.com Cumberland >> is not one that I know of but I may have the name and not >> know where they >> are buried. Hope to hear from you. Sally >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Barbara McCormick" >> <geneslady@ec.rr.com> >> To: <davidstroebel@yahoo.com>; >> <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 5:13 AM >> Subject: Re: [BW] Link genealogy >> >> >> > Where in NJ? I've been researching my Link's >> who lived in Cumberland >> > County. >> > >> > Barbara >> > in Wilmington, NC >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "David Stroebel" >> <davidstroebel@yahoo.com> >> > To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:48 PM >> > Subject: Re: [BW] Link genealogy >> > >> > >> >> Did your family live in New Jersey at all? I >> stumbled across a "Link" >> >> (Mary, I think, but not certain) that is buried in >> the same grave as my >> >> great uncle and aunt. I have no idea who she is. >> >> >> >> -Dave >> >> >> >> >> >> --- On Sun, 9/21/08, SaeeIa@aol.com >> <SaeeIa@aol.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> From: SaeeIa@aol.com <SaeeIa@aol.com> >> >>> Subject: Re: [BW] Link genealogy >> >>> To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com >> >>> Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 8:27 AM >> >>> I searched the ISTG website, and I found a >> Johann Link who >> >>> arrived in 1872. >> >>> >> _http://immigrantships.net/v4/1800v4/main18720817_02.html_ >> >>> >> (http://immigrantships.net/v4/1800v4/main18720817_02.html) >> >>> >> >>> You might have better luck searching yourself >> there. >> >>> >> >>> In reference to your comment: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Hello: I am searching for my >> Link/Hohm >> >>> ancestry. My Links came from >> >>> >> Laudenbach back in the 1600's. >> My >> >>> gggrandfather was Simon or Johann >> >>> >> Simon >> >>> >> Link who moved to Erlenbach am Main >> marria Anna >> >>> Maria Hohm in Worth am >> >>> > Main >> >>> >> and they raised their family in >> Erlenbach am >> >>> Main. My ggrandfather was >> >>> >> Leopold Link. He emigrated to NY >> @1871. I >> >>> cannot find the ship he came >> >>> > on. >> >>> >> He married Maria Huber in 1877 >> Mantattan NY. I >> >>> would love to find out >> >>> > some >> >>> >> information on my family in >> Germany(Bavaria) and >> >>> what ship my Leopold >> >>> >> came >> >>> >> to American on. Thank you for any >> help you might >> >>> be able to give me. e >> >>> >> mail scott1@embarqmail.com >> >>> >> Russ And Sally >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> **************Looking for simple solutions to >> your >> >>> real-life financial >> >>> challenges? Check out WalletPop for the >> latest news and >> >>> information, tips and >> >>> calculators. >> >>> >> (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------- >> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >> email to >> >>> BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with >> the word >> >>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the subject and >> >>> the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email >> to >> >> BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the >> word 'unsubscribe' >> >> without >> >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I did not know there were 5 of them. I was told near the Bavarian Alps. --- On Mon, 9/22/08, Pam <pamw2@fuse.net> wrote: > From: Pam <pamw2@fuse.net> > Subject: Re: [BW] Erlenbach????? > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 8:11 AM > At 09:54 AM 9/22/2008, you wrote: > >I just saw this in your reply email to me. By chance do > you know > >where I can find the birth and marriage records for my > relatives in > >Erlenback? I just learned our family was from there... > > Dave, do you know what Erlenbach? There are 5 in Germany, 2 > of which > are in Bayern (Bavaria), 1 in Wuerttemberg, 1 in Baden and > 1 in what > was Elsass-Lothringen. There may be more but these 5 have > at least > some church records filmed. Check the card catalog at > www.familysearch.org under the Library menu, choose a place > search > and key in Erlenbach. > > > Pam > http://www.pamsgenealogy.net > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Hi Dave: What cemetary and what are the names of your Aunt and uncle. I know some are buried at Cavalery(or something close) in Middle Villiage Long Island NY some in Holy Name Cemetary around Jersey City, NJ some In Clove Cemetary in Sussex, NJ Send me names and dates and Places, I have the Links back to 1600's in Bavaria/Germany my e mail scott1@embarqmail.com Cumberland is not one that I know of but I may have the name and not know where they are buried. Hope to hear from you. Sally ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara McCormick" <geneslady@ec.rr.com> To: <davidstroebel@yahoo.com>; <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 5:13 AM Subject: Re: [BW] Link genealogy > Where in NJ? I've been researching my Link's who lived in Cumberland > County. > > Barbara > in Wilmington, NC > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Stroebel" <davidstroebel@yahoo.com> > To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:48 PM > Subject: Re: [BW] Link genealogy > > >> Did your family live in New Jersey at all? I stumbled across a "Link" >> (Mary, I think, but not certain) that is buried in the same grave as my >> great uncle and aunt. I have no idea who she is. >> >> -Dave >> >> >> --- On Sun, 9/21/08, SaeeIa@aol.com <SaeeIa@aol.com> wrote: >> >>> From: SaeeIa@aol.com <SaeeIa@aol.com> >>> Subject: Re: [BW] Link genealogy >>> To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com >>> Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 8:27 AM >>> I searched the ISTG website, and I found a Johann Link who >>> arrived in 1872. >>> _http://immigrantships.net/v4/1800v4/main18720817_02.html_ >>> (http://immigrantships.net/v4/1800v4/main18720817_02.html) >>> >>> You might have better luck searching yourself there. >>> >>> In reference to your comment: >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Hello: I am searching for my Link/Hohm >>> ancestry. My Links came from >>> >> Laudenbach back in the 1600's. My >>> gggrandfather was Simon or Johann >>> >> Simon >>> >> Link who moved to Erlenbach am Main marria Anna >>> Maria Hohm in Worth am >>> > Main >>> >> and they raised their family in Erlenbach am >>> Main. My ggrandfather was >>> >> Leopold Link. He emigrated to NY @1871. I >>> cannot find the ship he came >>> > on. >>> >> He married Maria Huber in 1877 Mantattan NY. I >>> would love to find out >>> > some >>> >> information on my family in Germany(Bavaria) and >>> what ship my Leopold >>> >> came >>> >> to American on. Thank you for any help you might >>> be able to give me. e >>> >> mail scott1@embarqmail.com >>> >> Russ And Sally >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> **************Looking for simple solutions to your >>> real-life financial >>> challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and >>> information, tips and >>> calculators. >>> (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I, too, have some German ancestors who had illegitimate children. I learned that in many places in what is today's modern Germany during many years of the 1800s, the ruling prince required a very large fee relative to the average person's wages before the couple could be officially married. Most(?) peasant farmers and other poor could often not afford to get married and many of them took years to save the fee required. Each principality had different rules so it's not a universal. Often after marriage the father would formally acknowledge them with a civil record to this effect, and sometimes it was ntoed in the church records. But many times this was never done. In other cases, the woman eventually married someone else possibly because he was slightly better off and could be a better provider. I understand that this fee was one approach the ruling class took to shift the burden for the cost of government (mostly the prince's lavish lifestyle) from just land owners to the whole population. This made the prince popular with his friends, the land owners, were a very small percentage of the population even if land was the main source of wealth back then. Jim

HI in the 1870's my gggrandfather Leopold Link came to America. New York Manhattan, Willliamsburg area from Erlenbach, and Laudenbach on the Mein River, Bavaria/Germany in 1880's they moved to Jersey City and surrounding area. Some of my branch went to Chicago, some went to Rhode Island, some went to Sussex NJ. Are you a Link?? Would love to hear from you. Scott1@embarqmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara McCormick" <geneslady@ec.rr.com> To: <davidstroebel@yahoo.com>; <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 5:13 AM Subject: Re: [BW] Link genealogy > Where in NJ? I've been researching my Link's who lived in Cumberland > County. > > Barbara > in Wilmington, NC > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Stroebel" <davidstroebel@yahoo.com> > To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:48 PM > Subject: Re: [BW] Link genealogy > > >> Did your family live in New Jersey at all? I stumbled across a "Link" >> (Mary, I think, but not certain) that is buried in the same grave as my >> great uncle and aunt. I have no idea who she is. >> >> -Dave >> >> >> --- On Sun, 9/21/08, SaeeIa@aol.com <SaeeIa@aol.com> wrote: >> >>> From: SaeeIa@aol.com <SaeeIa@aol.com> >>> Subject: Re: [BW] Link genealogy >>> To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com >>> Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 8:27 AM >>> I searched the ISTG website, and I found a Johann Link who >>> arrived in 1872. >>> _http://immigrantships.net/v4/1800v4/main18720817_02.html_ >>> (http://immigrantships.net/v4/1800v4/main18720817_02.html) >>> >>> You might have better luck searching yourself there. >>> >>> In reference to your comment: >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Hello: I am searching for my Link/Hohm >>> ancestry. My Links came from >>> >> Laudenbach back in the 1600's. My >>> gggrandfather was Simon or Johann >>> >> Simon >>> >> Link who moved to Erlenbach am Main marria Anna >>> Maria Hohm in Worth am >>> > Main >>> >> and they raised their family in Erlenbach am >>> Main. My ggrandfather was >>> >> Leopold Link. He emigrated to NY @1871. I >>> cannot find the ship he came >>> > on. >>> >> He married Maria Huber in 1877 Mantattan NY. I >>> would love to find out >>> > some >>> >> information on my family in Germany(Bavaria) and >>> what ship my Leopold >>> >> came >>> >> to American on. Thank you for any help you might >>> be able to give me. e >>> >> mail scott1@embarqmail.com >>> >> Russ And Sally >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> **************Looking for simple solutions to your >>> real-life financial >>> challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and >>> information, tips and >>> calculators. >>> (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I just saw this in your reply email to me. By chance do you know where I can find the birth and marriage records for my relatives in Erlenback? I just learned our family was from there... Thanks Dave --- On Mon, 9/22/08, Russ and Sally <scott1@embarqmail.com> wrote: > From: Russ and Sally <scott1@embarqmail.com> > Subject: Re: [BW] Link genealogy > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 6:19 AM > HI in the 1870's my gggrandfather Leopold Link came to > America. New York > Manhattan, Willliamsburg area from Erlenbach, and > Laudenbach on the Mein > River, Bavaria/Germany in 1880's they moved to Jersey > City and surrounding > area. Some of my branch went to Chicago, some went to > Rhode Island, some > went to Sussex NJ. Are you a Link?? Would love to hear > from you. > Scott1@embarqmail.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara McCormick" > <geneslady@ec.rr.com> > To: <davidstroebel@yahoo.com>; > <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 5:13 AM > Subject: Re: [BW] Link genealogy > > > > Where in NJ? I've been researching my Link's > who lived in Cumberland > > County. > > > > Barbara > > in Wilmington, NC > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Stroebel" > <davidstroebel@yahoo.com> > > To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:48 PM > > Subject: Re: [BW] Link genealogy > > > > > >> Did your family live in New Jersey at all? I > stumbled across a "Link" > >> (Mary, I think, but not certain) that is buried in > the same grave as my > >> great uncle and aunt. I have no idea who she is. > >> > >> -Dave > >> > >> > >> --- On Sun, 9/21/08, SaeeIa@aol.com > <SaeeIa@aol.com> wrote: > >> > >>> From: SaeeIa@aol.com <SaeeIa@aol.com> > >>> Subject: Re: [BW] Link genealogy > >>> To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > >>> Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 8:27 AM > >>> I searched the ISTG website, and I found a > Johann Link who > >>> arrived in 1872. > >>> > _http://immigrantships.net/v4/1800v4/main18720817_02.html_ > >>> > (http://immigrantships.net/v4/1800v4/main18720817_02.html) > >>> > >>> You might have better luck searching yourself > there. > >>> > >>> In reference to your comment: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >> Hello: I am searching for my > Link/Hohm > >>> ancestry. My Links came from > >>> >> Laudenbach back in the 1600's. > My > >>> gggrandfather was Simon or Johann > >>> >> Simon > >>> >> Link who moved to Erlenbach am Main > marria Anna > >>> Maria Hohm in Worth am > >>> > Main > >>> >> and they raised their family in > Erlenbach am > >>> Main. My ggrandfather was > >>> >> Leopold Link. He emigrated to NY > @1871. I > >>> cannot find the ship he came > >>> > on. > >>> >> He married Maria Huber in 1877 > Mantattan NY. I > >>> would love to find out > >>> > some > >>> >> information on my family in > Germany(Bavaria) and > >>> what ship my Leopold > >>> >> came > >>> >> to American on. Thank you for any > help you might > >>> be able to give me. e > >>> >> mail scott1@embarqmail.com > >>> >> Russ And Sally > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> **************Looking for simple solutions to > your > >>> real-life financial > >>> challenges? Check out WalletPop for the > latest news and > >>> information, tips and > >>> calculators. > >>> > (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > >>> BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with > the word > >>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and > >>> the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > >> BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the > word 'unsubscribe' > >> without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Here you go Sally... http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GScid=99981&GSln=stroebele -Dave --- On Mon, 9/22/08, Russ and Sally <scott1@embarqmail.com> wrote: > From: Russ and Sally <scott1@embarqmail.com> > Subject: Re: [BW] Link genealogy > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 6:32 AM > Hi Dave: What cemetary and what are the names of your Aunt > and uncle. I > know some are buried at Cavalery(or something close) in > Middle Villiage Long > Island NY some in Holy Name Cemetary around Jersey City, NJ > some In Clove > Cemetary in Sussex, NJ Send me names and dates and Places, > I have the Links > back to 1600's in Bavaria/Germany my e mail > scott1@embarqmail.com Cumberland > is not one that I know of but I may have the name and not > know where they > are buried. Hope to hear from you. Sally > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara McCormick" > <geneslady@ec.rr.com> > To: <davidstroebel@yahoo.com>; > <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 5:13 AM > Subject: Re: [BW] Link genealogy > > > > Where in NJ? I've been researching my Link's > who lived in Cumberland > > County. > > > > Barbara > > in Wilmington, NC > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Stroebel" > <davidstroebel@yahoo.com> > > To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:48 PM > > Subject: Re: [BW] Link genealogy > > > > > >> Did your family live in New Jersey at all? I > stumbled across a "Link" > >> (Mary, I think, but not certain) that is buried in > the same grave as my > >> great uncle and aunt. I have no idea who she is. > >> > >> -Dave > >> > >> > >> --- On Sun, 9/21/08, SaeeIa@aol.com > <SaeeIa@aol.com> wrote: > >> > >>> From: SaeeIa@aol.com <SaeeIa@aol.com> > >>> Subject: Re: [BW] Link genealogy > >>> To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > >>> Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 8:27 AM > >>> I searched the ISTG website, and I found a > Johann Link who > >>> arrived in 1872. > >>> > _http://immigrantships.net/v4/1800v4/main18720817_02.html_ > >>> > (http://immigrantships.net/v4/1800v4/main18720817_02.html) > >>> > >>> You might have better luck searching yourself > there. > >>> > >>> In reference to your comment: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >> Hello: I am searching for my > Link/Hohm > >>> ancestry. My Links came from > >>> >> Laudenbach back in the 1600's. > My > >>> gggrandfather was Simon or Johann > >>> >> Simon > >>> >> Link who moved to Erlenbach am Main > marria Anna > >>> Maria Hohm in Worth am > >>> > Main > >>> >> and they raised their family in > Erlenbach am > >>> Main. My ggrandfather was > >>> >> Leopold Link. He emigrated to NY > @1871. I > >>> cannot find the ship he came > >>> > on. > >>> >> He married Maria Huber in 1877 > Mantattan NY. I > >>> would love to find out > >>> > some > >>> >> information on my family in > Germany(Bavaria) and > >>> what ship my Leopold > >>> >> came > >>> >> to American on. Thank you for any > help you might > >>> be able to give me. e > >>> >> mail scott1@embarqmail.com > >>> >> Russ And Sally > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> **************Looking for simple solutions to > your > >>> real-life financial > >>> challenges? Check out WalletPop for the > latest news and > >>> information, tips and > >>> calculators. > >>> > (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > >>> BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with > the word > >>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and > >>> the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > >> BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the > word 'unsubscribe' > >> without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Where in NJ? I've been researching my Link's who lived in Cumberland County. Barbara in Wilmington, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Stroebel" <davidstroebel@yahoo.com> To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [BW] Link genealogy > Did your family live in New Jersey at all? I stumbled across a "Link" > (Mary, I think, but not certain) that is buried in the same grave as my > great uncle and aunt. I have no idea who she is. > > -Dave > > > --- On Sun, 9/21/08, SaeeIa@aol.com <SaeeIa@aol.com> wrote: > >> From: SaeeIa@aol.com <SaeeIa@aol.com> >> Subject: Re: [BW] Link genealogy >> To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com >> Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 8:27 AM >> I searched the ISTG website, and I found a Johann Link who >> arrived in 1872. >> _http://immigrantships.net/v4/1800v4/main18720817_02.html_ >> (http://immigrantships.net/v4/1800v4/main18720817_02.html) >> >> You might have better luck searching yourself there. >> >> In reference to your comment: >> >> >> >> >> Hello: I am searching for my Link/Hohm >> ancestry. My Links came from >> >> Laudenbach back in the 1600's. My >> gggrandfather was Simon or Johann >> >> Simon >> >> Link who moved to Erlenbach am Main marria Anna >> Maria Hohm in Worth am >> > Main >> >> and they raised their family in Erlenbach am >> Main. My ggrandfather was >> >> Leopold Link. He emigrated to NY @1871. I >> cannot find the ship he came >> > on. >> >> He married Maria Huber in 1877 Mantattan NY. I >> would love to find out >> > some >> >> information on my family in Germany(Bavaria) and >> what ship my Leopold >> >> came >> >> to American on. Thank you for any help you might >> be able to give me. e >> >> mail scott1@embarqmail.com >> >> Russ And Sally >> >> >> >> >> >> **************Looking for simple solutions to your >> real-life financial >> challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and >> information, tips and >> calculators. >> (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I've been doing a little calculating with the people in my database to see exactly how common it was to have illegitimate children, to have children born before marriage, how many children were born out of wedlock, etc. I have about 258,000 people in my database that were born in Germany. There were 48,000 marriages that took place in Germany. I ran a report and there were about 66,000 children that were born before their parent's marriage date. It's hard to figure exact number of marriages took place after the birth of illegitimate children because some couples had as many as six or seven children before marrying. There were almost 11,000 instances of women that had illegitimate children and did not marry the father of the children. So there were about 77,000 children born outside of marriage, with the majority of the parents eventually marrying, but a significant number of women did not marry the father of their children. I think you can tell by these figures that it was very common to have illegitimate children. kathy bonnell -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan & Jane White Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 1:42 PM To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Subject: [BW] not-marrying Dear Listers, I would like to ask your opinion of why someone did not marry the father of their illegitimate child. This took place in the 1830's in Boehmenkirch (about 30 miles east of Stuttgart). The mother had an illegitimate child that died. That father eventually married someone else. The mother then had two illegitimate children (one of whom lived) with another man. This man never married. The only other thing I know is that he wasn't confirmed (Catholic) until he was 31 years old, which seems odd and he died at age 61. Several years after the third birth the mother married a close relative of the father of her 2nd and 3rd children. Usually the mother would marry the father, but I am wondering what might have been going on with the father of 2nd & 3rd children. Was he too poor to get married, not able to work, or what. I would appreciate some ideas. Thanks, Jane ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1683 - Release Date: 9/21/2008 10:10 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1683 - Release Date: 9/21/2008 10:10 AM

Hello Jane, yes you're thinking is right! In that space of time (I know it from Wuerttemberg and Bavaria) it wasn't allowed to marry anyone if you're not able to support a family. The municipality wanted to take the poorness as low as they can by this rules. Because the municipality must support all the poor families which lived in the poorhouses. It was very expensive when poor people married together and they became a lot of poor children and so on and on. So they can't get the permission, if they ony were servants, farm labourers, maiden, farmgirl etc. Many of this persons emigrated to america, if they could collect enough money for the travelling from their relations. Sorry for my bad english, but I hope you'll understand the meaning! regards from germany Manuela (Siewert) http://mitglied.lycos.de/manuseefried ++Was he too poor to get married, not able to work, or what. > I would appreciate some ideas. > > Thanks, > Jane

Maybe he was married to someone else? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan & Jane White" <danjanewhite@q.com> To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 1:42 PM Subject: [BW] not-marrying > Dear Listers, > I would like to ask your opinion of why someone did not marry the father > of > their illegitimate child. This took place in the 1830's in Boehmenkirch > (about 30 miles east of Stuttgart). The mother had an illegitimate child > that died. That father eventually married someone else. The mother then > had two illegitimate children (one of whom lived) with another man. This > man never married. The only other thing I know is that he wasn't > confirmed > (Catholic) until he was 31 years old, which seems odd and he died at age > 61. > > Several years after the third birth the mother married a close relative of > the father of her 2nd and 3rd children. > > Usually the mother would marry the father, but I am wondering what might > have been going on with the father of 2nd & 3rd children. Was he too poor > to get married, not able to work, or what. > > I would appreciate some ideas. > > Thanks, > Jane > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Did your family live in New Jersey at all? I stumbled across a "Link" (Mary, I think, but not certain) that is buried in the same grave as my great uncle and aunt. I have no idea who she is. -Dave --- On Sun, 9/21/08, SaeeIa@aol.com <SaeeIa@aol.com> wrote: > From: SaeeIa@aol.com <SaeeIa@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [BW] Link genealogy > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 8:27 AM > I searched the ISTG website, and I found a Johann Link who > arrived in 1872. > _http://immigrantships.net/v4/1800v4/main18720817_02.html_ > (http://immigrantships.net/v4/1800v4/main18720817_02.html) > > You might have better luck searching yourself there. > > In reference to your comment: > > > > >> Hello: I am searching for my Link/Hohm > ancestry. My Links came from > >> Laudenbach back in the 1600's. My > gggrandfather was Simon or Johann > >> Simon > >> Link who moved to Erlenbach am Main marria Anna > Maria Hohm in Worth am > > Main > >> and they raised their family in Erlenbach am > Main. My ggrandfather was > >> Leopold Link. He emigrated to NY @1871. I > cannot find the ship he came > > on. > >> He married Maria Huber in 1877 Mantattan NY. I > would love to find out > > some > >> information on my family in Germany(Bavaria) and > what ship my Leopold > >> came > >> to American on. Thank you for any help you might > be able to give me. e > >> mail scott1@embarqmail.com > >> Russ And Sally > > > > > > **************Looking for simple solutions to your > real-life financial > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and > information, tips and > calculators. > (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

This article about my family in GÖPPINGEN can be seen/read here. I have an English translation if anyone is interested who doesn't read German. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ioglass/2875747947/ David Aimone daimone@nycap.rr.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PLEASE VISIT: http://ioglass.blogspot.com/ http://thats-different-dkaiog.blogspot.com/ ...music, photos, and more...

Dear Listers, I would like to ask your opinion of why someone did not marry the father of their illegitimate child. This took place in the 1830's in Boehmenkirch (about 30 miles east of Stuttgart). The mother had an illegitimate child that died. That father eventually married someone else. The mother then had two illegitimate children (one of whom lived) with another man. This man never married. The only other thing I know is that he wasn't confirmed (Catholic) until he was 31 years old, which seems odd and he died at age 61. Several years after the third birth the mother married a close relative of the father of her 2nd and 3rd children. Usually the mother would marry the father, but I am wondering what might have been going on with the father of 2nd & 3rd children. Was he too poor to get married, not able to work, or what. I would appreciate some ideas. Thanks, Jane

I searched the ISTG website, and I found a Johann Link who arrived in 1872. _http://immigrantships.net/v4/1800v4/main18720817_02.html_ (http://immigrantships.net/v4/1800v4/main18720817_02.html) You might have better luck searching yourself there. In reference to your comment: >> Hello: I am searching for my Link/Hohm ancestry. My Links came from >> Laudenbach back in the 1600's. My gggrandfather was Simon or Johann >> Simon >> Link who moved to Erlenbach am Main marria Anna Maria Hohm in Worth am > Main >> and they raised their family in Erlenbach am Main. My ggrandfather was >> Leopold Link. He emigrated to NY @1871. I cannot find the ship he came > on. >> He married Maria Huber in 1877 Mantattan NY. I would love to find out > some >> information on my family in Germany(Bavaria) and what ship my Leopold >> came >> to American on. Thank you for any help you might be able to give me. e >> mail scott1@embarqmail.com >> Russ And Sally **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

Hi Carole: Thanks for your response. Yes I did try Castle Garden and no luck. I am begining to wonder if maybe he didn't come into NY. I have been searching for at least 10 years and no luck. Thank you for your suggestion. Sally ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole Lubbers" <clubbers@earthlink.net> To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [BW] Link genealogy > Have you tried the www.castlegarden.org website for the passenger list? > Carole in Georgia > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Russ and Sally" <scott1@embarqmail.com> > To: "Baden Roots List" <BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:41 PM > Subject: [BW] Link genealogy > > >> Hello: I am searching for my Link/Hohm ancestry. My Links came from >> Laudenbach back in the 1600's. My gggrandfather was Simon or Johann >> Simon >> Link who moved to Erlenbach am Main marria Anna Maria Hohm in Worth am > Main >> and they raised their family in Erlenbach am Main. My ggrandfather was >> Leopold Link. He emigrated to NY @1871. I cannot find the ship he came > on. >> He married Maria Huber in 1877 Mantattan NY. I would love to find out > some >> information on my family in Germany(Bavaria) and what ship my Leopold >> came >> to American on. Thank you for any help you might be able to give me. e >> mail scott1@embarqmail.com >> Russ And Sally >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 3457 (20080919) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Have you tried the www.castlegarden.org website for the passenger list? Carole in Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russ and Sally" <scott1@embarqmail.com> To: "Baden Roots List" <BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:41 PM Subject: [BW] Link genealogy > Hello: I am searching for my Link/Hohm ancestry. My Links came from > Laudenbach back in the 1600's. My gggrandfather was Simon or Johann Simon > Link who moved to Erlenbach am Main marria Anna Maria Hohm in Worth am Main > and they raised their family in Erlenbach am Main. My ggrandfather was > Leopold Link. He emigrated to NY @1871. I cannot find the ship he came on. > He married Maria Huber in 1877 Mantattan NY. I would love to find out some > information on my family in Germany(Bavaria) and what ship my Leopold came > to American on. Thank you for any help you might be able to give me. e > mail scott1@embarqmail.com > Russ And Sally > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3457 (20080919) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > >

I too am having a hard time finding the ship my grandmother came over on. Her sister had to fill out an alien registration form and all the info a person would need is there and yet I can't fine the ship. Good luck. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russ and Sally" <scott1@embarqmail.com> To: "Baden Roots List" <BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:41 PM Subject: [BW] Link genealogy > Hello: I am searching for my Link/Hohm ancestry. My Links came from > Laudenbach back in the 1600's. My gggrandfather was Simon or Johann Simon > Link who moved to Erlenbach am Main marria Anna Maria Hohm in Worth am > Main > and they raised their family in Erlenbach am Main. My ggrandfather was > Leopold Link. He emigrated to NY @1871. I cannot find the ship he came > on. > He married Maria Huber in 1877 Mantattan NY. I would love to find out > some > information on my family in Germany(Bavaria) and what ship my Leopold came > to American on. Thank you for any help you might be able to give me. e > mail scott1@embarqmail.com > Russ And Sally > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Russ and Sally, ShtetlSeeker shows there are 6 Laudenbachs in old Germany. You must first determine which one you are referring to. Only 2 are in the B-W region (both to the extreme north), the region supported by this mail list. You should have more success researching that family if you post your queries on the mail lists that support the area you are describing. At 02:02 AM 9/20/2008, you wrote: >From: "Russ and Sally" <scott1@embarqmail.com> >Subject: [BW] Link genealogy >To: "Baden Roots List" <BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com> > >Hello: I am searching for my Link/Hohm ancestry. My Links came from >Laudenbach back in the 1600's. My gggrandfather was Simon or Johann Simon >Link who moved to Erlenbach am Main marria Anna Maria Hohm in Worth am Main >and they raised their family in Erlenbach am Main. My ggrandfather was >Leopold Link. He emigrated to NY @1871. I cannot find the ship he came on. >He married Maria Huber in 1877 Mantattan NY. I would love to find out some >information on my family in Germany(Bavaria) and what ship my Leopold came >to American on. Thank you for any help you might be able to give me. e >mail scott1@embarqmail.com >Russ And Sally ____________________________________________________________ Click to see huge collection of designer watches. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/Ioyw6i4tYRHrOXP16QW1jAXyLmurLDvQyvglDrM1kcOMjbEyZsiHn2/

Hello: I am searching for my Link/Hohm ancestry. My Links came from Laudenbach back in the 1600's. My gggrandfather was Simon or Johann Simon Link who moved to Erlenbach am Main marria Anna Maria Hohm in Worth am Main and they raised their family in Erlenbach am Main. My ggrandfather was Leopold Link. He emigrated to NY @1871. I cannot find the ship he came on. He married Maria Huber in 1877 Mantattan NY. I would love to find out some information on my family in Germany(Bavaria) and what ship my Leopold came to American on. Thank you for any help you might be able to give me. e mail scott1@embarqmail.com Russ And Sally