I checked Castle Garden 2 Rosina'a listed but much later dates. I found this Rosine at Auswanderer Baden-Wuerttemberg Emigrant identification 43982 First name Rosine Elisab. Last name Seybold Emigration year 1856 Continent Nordamerika Last place of residence Neuenstadt am Kocher Marital status verw. Denomination ev. Sex w Number of adults 1 Country of destination Nordamerika County Besigheim Archive Hauptstaatsarchiv Stuttgart Have you tried the Immigrant Ship Transcriber's Guild http://www.immigrantships.net/index2.html. You can look at each volume & go to surname & look for the name Seybold with different variations of the name as well. Good hunting Cheryl

Ancestry.com with the international subscription may have it. ---- mbartenslager3735@comcast.net wrote: > Trying to locate information on the ship that my husband gg-grandmother came over from Germany to America. This is the information written on the outside of the truck she brought with her. > Rosina Seybold > Reist uber Havre > nada. New York > per. Postdriff > All I know that it was sometime between 1853 to 1854 and single. She married Johann Bardtenschlager in Lancaster, Pa. Feb.1855. He came over about 1850. I know she was here before Oct 1854 as their oldest son was born in Millersville, Pa. in Oct 1854. His baptism is list as the same day his parents were married. > > Thanks > Marilyn Bartenslager > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Carlisle Danzeisen's" <1833danzeisen@embarqmail.com> > > > Joanne, > > Below is an entry I located that might help you. Could this be your > > G-Grandfather? > > > > Name: J. J. Lang > > Arrival Date: 3 Jun 1853 > > Age: 26 (Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827) > > Gender: Male > > Port of Departure: Le Havre, France > > Destination: United States of America > > Place of Origin: Germany > > Ethnicity/Race-/Nationality: German > > Ship Name: "Franchise" > > Port of Arrival: New York > > Line: 29 > > Microfilm Serial: M237 > > Microfilm Roll: M237_126 > > List Number: 495 > > Port Arrival State: New York > > Port Arrival Country: United States > > > > The manifest does not indicate the date that the ship "Franchise" departed > > Le Havre, but it could have been at the end of April 1853. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of j paymal > > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 1:03 AM > > To: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [BW] 1853 ship "Franchise" + LeHavre > > > > Does anyone know if there was an Emigrant ship named Franchise that sailed > > from LeHavre, France to New York between April 23-29, 1853? The entry in my > > Great Grandfather's Wanderbuch (an apprentist's record book) has an entry > > made by "Le Comunissaire de police Deligue" which states something like "Vie > > pour New York _____ mariner franchise Havre 23 ? April 1853" This entry is > > approximate as it is difficult to read. The seal reads "Ville Du Havre - > > Seine ?" > > > > Great Grandfather: Johann Jacob Lang from Weiler Wurttemberg born Feb 8, > > 1827 > > > > Thanks for any help > > Joanne Lang Paymal > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marilyn, Have you tried www.castlegarden.org? Linda -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mbartenslager3735@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 9:06 AM To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BW] Ship from LeHavre to NewYork 1853/54 Trying to locate information on the ship that my husband gg-grandmother came over from Germany to America. This is the information written on the outside of the truck she brought with her. Rosina Seybold Reist uber Havre nada. New York per. Postdriff All I know that it was sometime between 1853 to 1854 and single. She married Johann Bardtenschlager in Lancaster, Pa. Feb.1855. He came over about 1850. I know she was here before Oct 1854 as their oldest son was born in Millersville, Pa. in Oct 1854. His baptism is list as the same day his parents were married. Thanks Marilyn Bartenslager -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Carlisle Danzeisen's" <1833danzeisen@embarqmail.com> > Joanne, > Below is an entry I located that might help you. Could this be your > G-Grandfather? > > Name: J. J. Lang > Arrival Date: 3 Jun 1853 > Age: 26 (Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827) > Gender: Male > Port of Departure: Le Havre, France > Destination: United States of America > Place of Origin: Germany > Ethnicity/Race-/Nationality: German > Ship Name: "Franchise" > Port of Arrival: New York > Line: 29 > Microfilm Serial: M237 > Microfilm Roll: M237_126 > List Number: 495 > Port Arrival State: New York > Port Arrival Country: United States > > The manifest does not indicate the date that the ship "Franchise" departed > Le Havre, but it could have been at the end of April 1853. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of j paymal > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 1:03 AM > To: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BW] 1853 ship "Franchise" + LeHavre > > Does anyone know if there was an Emigrant ship named Franchise that sailed > from LeHavre, France to New York between April 23-29, 1853? The entry in my > Great Grandfather's Wanderbuch (an apprentist's record book) has an entry > made by "Le Comunissaire de police Deligue" which states something like "Vie > pour New York _____ mariner franchise Havre 23 ? April 1853" This entry is > approximate as it is difficult to read. The seal reads "Ville Du Havre - > Seine ?" > > Great Grandfather: Johann Jacob Lang from Weiler Wurttemberg born Feb 8, > 1827 > > Thanks for any help > Joanne Lang Paymal > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Joanne, I found the following on Ancestry.com. I will send you the manifest page under separate cover. Beverly Mack Zanon, researching OFFENBURG, NUSSBACH - Surname: BUSAM ____________________________________ Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Name: Johann Jakob Lang Year: 1853 Place: Pennsylvania Source Publication Code: 8057.10 Primary Immigrant: Lang, Johann Jakob Annotation: Date of application to emigrate and intended destination. In a few cases, date indexed indicates emigrant's undated application was indexed before the date cited. Also provides date and place of birth and film number. Extracted from a comprehensive indexi Source Bibliography: SCHENK, TRUDY and RUTH FROELKE. The Wuerttemberg Emigration Index. Volume 7. Salt Lake City, UT: Ancestry, 1998. 475p. Page: 236 ____________________________________ New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Name: Johann Lang Arrival Date: 27 Apr 1853 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Age: 26 Port of Departure: Antwerp, Belgium Place of Origin: Germany Ethnicity/Race&shy;/Nationality: German Ship Name: Maria Theresia : (http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?f2=Maria Theresia&db=passengerships) Port of Arrival: New York Line: 25 Microfilm Serial: M237 Microfilm Roll: M237_125 List Number: 322 Port Arrival State: New York Port Arrival Country: United States In a message dated 10/24/2008 2:02:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time, baden-wurttemberg-request@rootsweb.com writes: Does anyone know if there was an Emigrant ship named Franchise that sailed from LeHavre, France to New York between April 23-29, 1853? The entry in my Great Grandfather's Wanderbuch (an apprentist's record book) has an entry made by "Le Comunissaire de police Deligue" which states something like "Vie pour New York _____ mariner franchise Havre 23 ? April 1853" This entry is approximate as it is difficult to read. The seal reads "Ville Du Havre - Seine ?" Great Grandfather: Johann Jacob Lang from Weiler Wurttemberg born Feb 8, 1827 Thanks for any help Joanne Lang Paymal **************Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics – check it out! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir= http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame00000001)

Joanne, Below is an entry I located that might help you. Could this be your G-Grandfather? Name: J. J. Lang Arrival Date: 3 Jun 1853 Age: 26 (Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827) Gender: Male Port of Departure: Le Havre, France Destination: United States of America Place of Origin: Germany Ethnicity/Race-/Nationality: German Ship Name: "Franchise" Port of Arrival: New York Line: 29 Microfilm Serial: M237 Microfilm Roll: M237_126 List Number: 495 Port Arrival State: New York Port Arrival Country: United States The manifest does not indicate the date that the ship "Franchise" departed Le Havre, but it could have been at the end of April 1853. -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of j paymal Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 1:03 AM To: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com Subject: [BW] 1853 ship "Franchise" + LeHavre Does anyone know if there was an Emigrant ship named Franchise that sailed from LeHavre, France to New York between April 23-29, 1853? The entry in my Great Grandfather's Wanderbuch (an apprentist's record book) has an entry made by "Le Comunissaire de police Deligue" which states something like "Vie pour New York _____ mariner franchise Havre 23 ? April 1853" This entry is approximate as it is difficult to read. The seal reads "Ville Du Havre - Seine ?" Great Grandfather: Johann Jacob Lang from Weiler Wurttemberg born Feb 8, 1827 Thanks for any help Joanne Lang Paymal ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone know if there was an Emigrant ship named Franchise that sailed from LeHavre, France to New York between April 23-29, 1853? The entry in my Great Grandfather's Wanderbuch (an apprentist's record book) has an entry made by "Le Comunissaire de police Deligue" which states something like "Vie pour New York _____ mariner franchise Havre 23 ? April 1853" This entry is approximate as it is difficult to read. The seal reads "Ville Du Havre - Seine ?" Great Grandfather: Johann Jacob Lang from Weiler Wurttemberg born Feb 8, 1827 Thanks for any help Joanne Lang Paymal

Hi Adam, Huzenbach is incorporated to 72270 Baiersbronn. It is located near Freudenstadt in the Black Forest = Schwarzwald, west of Stuttgart. I found a Jakob Friedrich Grammel born 10 May 1840 in Huzenbach, emigrated in Jan.1866. Then a Georg Grammel, 19 years from Huzenbach, emigrated in April 1860. And a Karl Grammel, 17 years, from Huzenbach, emigrated also April 1860. Probably family members. Regards Erika -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von adschul2@aol.com Gesendet: Montag, 20. Oktober 2008 22:57 An: Baden-Wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Betreff: [BW] Gottlieb GRAMMEL My grandfather,Gottlieb Grammel was born in Huzenbach, Schwartzwald, Wurttenberg, Germany according to a record I found.? Unsure where Huzenbach is.? He was born November 4, 1853.? He married Louisa Fredica Caspar on September 27,1883 and then came to the United States in December of 1883.? I know very little about Louisa and would like to know more.? Any help will be greatly appreicated.? Thank you.? Adam G.Schuler? adschul2@aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am looking for information on the family of John Schmidt who had a glass factore in Wurttemberg around 1850.  John came to America with his family, but the rest of the family remained.  It could have been a stained glass factory.  Any information would be helpful. Thanks,   Karen Dwyer

I am researching for my following emigrated relatives and theirs descendants. Carl Jonitz * 31 Jul. 1852 Langenbruecken emigr. year abt.1892 son of Bibiana Jonitz * 2.Dec. 1830 Langenbrüecken Vincens Weick *22. Jan. 1827 Langenbruecken emigr. year 1856 son of Franz J. Weick and Cunigunde Fischer Zachäus Weick *22 Aug.1834 Langenbruecken emigr. year 1870 son of Franz J. Weick and Cunigunde Fischer Konrad Knebel *8. Mar 1831 Langenbruecken emigr year 1862 son of Johannes Vitus Knebel and Elisabeth Westermann Vitus Knebel 26 Feb 1853 Langenbruecken emigr yaer 1886 son of Simon Knebel and Catharina Bauch Johann Michael * 5 Oct 1788 Langenbruecken emigr year 1844 son of Johannes Michael K. and M. Eva Cath. Hensi Lorenz Ehrbrecht * 26 Jun 1839 Kronau emigr year 1865 son of Josef Ehrbrecht and M. Anna Knebel Wilhelm Zolk *19 Apr 1931 Langenbruecken, emigr year 1852 son of Joh. Michael Zolk and Magdalena Weick A special thank to Marleen Van Horme, to Linda and to Jack w McConnell for the informationen about my Zolk relatives in America. Karlheinz

Karlheinz and Kathy, When posting a query to a mail list or message board it is advisable to supply detailed information about the specific individuals you are researching. The details should be full names and any dates, even estimated. Your information should be limited to that which occurred in old Germany. Others will help you search for your family and, if you are extremely lucky, you may find someone researching your family. At 02:01 AM 10/22/2008, you wrote: >From: "Karlheinz Zolk" <khzolk@alice-dsl.net> >Subject: [BW] new member >To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > >Hello everyone, >I am a new member. My name is Karlheinz Zolk. I am from the town of >Langenbruecken/Baden/Germany. >Langenbruecken is now a district of Bad-Schoenborn. Some of my >ancestors emigrated to America. >I am interested where and how they lived. And maybe I can made >contact to descendants of them. >My ancestors from Langenbruecken are: Zolk, Jonitz, Knebel, Weick >and from Kronau/Baden: Ehrbrecht, Fuchs, Moch. Last year I visited >Highland IL where many of emigrants from Langenbruecken, >Mingolsheim, Oestringen, Malsch and Rettigheim settled. Also >Sebastia Zolk an ancestor of me. I visited the old Zolk farm and >meet relatives and friends. A great trip. If you need information >about your Langenbruecken ancestors please contact me. Greetings >from Germany Karlheinz From: "Kathy Lund" <krlund@verizon.net> >Subject: [BW] Eckert Family >To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > >I am researching the Eckert family from Auerbach-Mosbach Baden >Germany is there anyone that is researching the same. >Jacob Eckert was born @ 1853 and emigrated to US around 1872. He >married Wilhelmina Wirth in Indianapolis. She was on the same ship as him. >They settled in Indianapolis Indiana. > >Thanks > >Kathy >krlund@verizon.net ____________________________________________________________ Click for free info on online degrees and make up to $150K/ year. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/Ioyw6i4ugvZhlUU2PmIlkwYdG2QGk6wxr6X8O1MhIzMuAZr3A5o5ec/

Hello Group! The local LDS Church branch library near my residence here in Cincinnati has been having administrative difficulties. For this reason, I'm asking the group if anyone has first hand access to the Weitenung films, which was a part of the Steinbach (Bühl) Baden parish. I've been looking for the town of origin for my great great grandfather Sebastian Stemmler born 20 January 1827. There are Stemmler families in Stollhofen, Schiftung, and Söllingen, but these locales do not have the baptism of Sebastian Stemmler. I've located the origins of his wife's Family SCHUH in Stollhofen. Sebastian eventually setlled in Dearborn County, Indiana, just west of Cincinnati. I beleive the year of emmigration is around 1837. So, if anyone has access, could you do a look up for me, please. Thanks! Greetings from Cincinnati, Tim Allgeyer **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002)

Judy, There is no Natendorf in the area served by the Baden-Wurttemberg mail list. The only one appears to be a small village about 300 miles N of Stuttgart in the district of Ülzen, in Lower Saxony (source: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natendorf>Wikipedia). You would be better served if you posted your query on the mail list that serves that region. BTW, it is advisable to supply more than the surname in your query. The query should include full names and dates of those events that occurred in old Germany. Others will help you search for your family and, if you are extremely lucky, you may find someone researching your family. At 02:01 AM 10/20/2008, you wrote: >From: Judith Schweitzer <junan37@hotmail.com> >Subject: [BW] OSB for the town of Natendorf >To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <BAY140-W2064D1141B7E2388879B7EB52F0@phx.gbl> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > >Does anyone know if there is an OSB for the city >of Natendorf. Iam looking for the BACKHAUS family. >Thank you >Judy ____________________________________________________________ Click to shop and compare great deals on new vehicles. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/Ioyw6i4uZUhIVSKfMJIdaey4iJzLZhNUYQFtte19sxnqqjHqITeiU0/

Hello everyone, I am a new member. My name is Karlheinz Zolk. I am from the town of Langenbruecken/Baden/Germany. Langenbruecken is now a district of Bad-Schoenborn. Some of my ancestors emigrated to America. I am interested where and how they lived. And maybe I can made contact to descendants of them. My ancestors from Langenbruecken are: Zolk, Jonitz, Knebel, Weick and from Kronau/Baden: Ehrbrecht, Fuchs, Moch. Last year I visited Highland IL where many of emigrants from Langenbruecken, Mingolsheim, Oestringen, Malsch and Rettigheim settled. Also Sebastia Zolk an ancestor of me. I visited the old Zolk farm and meet relatives and friends. A great trip. If you need information about your Langenbruecken ancestors please contact me. Greetings from Germany Karlheinz

I am researching the Eckert family from Auerbach-Mosbach Baden Germany is there anyone that is researching the same. Jacob Eckert was born @ 1853 and emigrated to US around 1872. He married Wilhelmina Wirth in Indianapolis. She was on the same ship as him. They settled in Indianapolis Indiana. Thanks Kathy krlund@verizon.net

Welcome Karlheinz, Do you have given names for the family names you have mentioned, where they might have gone and approximate dates of immigration? I have found many Zolks, Knebels, and Jonitz on our census records. One in particulare is Karl Jonitz, wife Emma and daughter Frida. They left Langenbruken around 1892 on the ship Wieland. They are on the 1900 census in the state of Ohio. Jack McConnell Georgia, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karlheinz Zolk" <khzolk@alice-dsl.net> To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 6:59 AM Subject: [BW] new member > Hello everyone, > I am a new member. My name is Karlheinz Zolk. I am from the town of > Langenbruecken/Baden/Germany. > Langenbruecken is now a district of Bad-Schoenborn. Some of my ancestors > emigrated to America. > I am interested where and how they lived. And maybe I can made contact to > descendants of them. > My ancestors from Langenbruecken are: Zolk, Jonitz, Knebel, Weick and > from Kronau/Baden: Ehrbrecht, Fuchs, Moch. Last year I visited Highland > IL where many of emigrants from Langenbruecken, Mingolsheim, Oestringen, > Malsch and Rettigheim settled. Also Sebastia Zolk an ancestor of me. I > visited the old Zolk farm and meet relatives and friends. A great trip. If > you need information about your Langenbruecken ancestors please contact > me. Greetings from Germany Karlheinz > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am looking for the children of M Johann Wendel Sterr. He was born 1640 in Nürtingen, graduated from the University of Tübingen in 1659. The U of T records said he became Pfarrer in Ennabeuren in 1666. He was married in Nürtingen Oct 1665 to Catharina Braünlin. The marriage records said he was Pfarrer in Spihlberg [nearest I can match is Spielberg]. He was Pfarrer in Kohlberg 1690 to 1703 when he died. If anyone has film # 1190244 Items 8-9 and could check if he was a Pastor there and the names of any children. I need the birth of Georg Wendel Sterr about 1681. There are 3 Spielberg's in Württemberg and 1 in Bavaria so the correct one will be harder to find. Thanks Kent Schach **************BUY Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull on DVD today! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1209326865x1200539441/aol?redir=http://www.indianajones.com/site/index.html)

Adam, If you have not done it already, you may want to order the microfilm of the church records for Huzenbach that you can order from FamilySearch. It looks like they have three reels with records back until 1603. The reel numbers are 1884461, 1884462 and 1884463. Good luck. -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Eric Schaal Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 7:25 PM To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BW] Gottlieb GRAMMEL Starting with your first question, Huzenbach is a village in the Black Forest section of Wurttemberg, south and east of Baden-Baden on highway no. 462. It looks like the center of the really forested part of that area. You can get more information by simply googling the name. I then searched the name Grammel at Familysearch.org and found a lot of people from all over Germany with that name or variations. There was a woman actually from Huzenbach whose name was Agathe Elizabetha Grammel, born 30 May 1822. She is likely related to your ancestor, given the apparent size of Huzenbach. You may want to replicate this search. You may find others. I did not find anything searching the name Gottlieb Grammel. You may want to try the same thing with the Caspar name. Just go to the search menu at Familysearch.org and type in the last name and select Germany as the country. You will have to scroll through a lot of names but you will see everyone named Grammel or Caspar that is in their system. Good luck. Eric Schaal -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of adschul2@aol.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 2:57 PM To: Baden-Wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Subject: [BW] Gottlieb GRAMMEL My grandfather,Gottlieb Grammel was born in Huzenbach, Schwartzwald, Wurttenberg, Germany according to a record I found.? Unsure where Huzenbach is.? He was born November 4, 1853.? He married Louisa Fredica Caspar on September 27,1883 and then came to the United States in December of 1883.? I know very little about Louisa and would like to know more.? Any help will be greatly appreicated.? Thank you.? Adam G.Schuler? adschul2@aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Starting with your first question, Huzenbach is a village in the Black Forest section of Wurttemberg, south and east of Baden-Baden on highway no. 462. It looks like the center of the really forested part of that area. You can get more information by simply googling the name. I then searched the name Grammel at Familysearch.org and found a lot of people from all over Germany with that name or variations. There was a woman actually from Huzenbach whose name was Agathe Elizabetha Grammel, born 30 May 1822. She is likely related to your ancestor, given the apparent size of Huzenbach. You may want to replicate this search. You may find others. I did not find anything searching the name Gottlieb Grammel. You may want to try the same thing with the Caspar name. Just go to the search menu at Familysearch.org and type in the last name and select Germany as the country. You will have to scroll through a lot of names but you will see everyone named Grammel or Caspar that is in their system. Good luck. Eric Schaal -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of adschul2@aol.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 2:57 PM To: Baden-Wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Subject: [BW] Gottlieb GRAMMEL My grandfather,Gottlieb Grammel was born in Huzenbach, Schwartzwald, Wurttenberg, Germany according to a record I found.? Unsure where Huzenbach is.? He was born November 4, 1853.? He married Louisa Fredica Caspar on September 27,1883 and then came to the United States in December of 1883.? I know very little about Louisa and would like to know more.? Any help will be greatly appreicated.? Thank you.? Adam G.Schuler? adschul2@aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My grandfather,Gottlieb Grammel was born in Huzenbach, Schwartzwald, Wurttenberg, Germany according to a record I found.? Unsure where Huzenbach is.? He was born November 4, 1853.? He married Louisa Fredica Caspar on September 27,1883 and then came to the United States in December of 1883.? I know very little about Louisa and would like to know more.? Any help will be greatly appreicated.? Thank you.? Adam G.Schuler? adschul2@aol.com.

Hello Judy The town of Natendorf is not in the area of Baden-Wuerttemberg. Natendorf is located in "Niedersachsen" in the north of Germany. www.natendorf.de An OFB is published in 2008 see below: Titel: Die Familien und Einwohner des Kirchspiels Natendorf Untertitel: Ortsfamilienbuch 1698-1875, Untersuchung zur Bevölkerungsgeschichte, Besitzerfolgen der Höfe und Adressbücher 1907-1978 Autor / Hrsg.: Eberhard Behnke - Heinrich Porth. Hrsg.: Museums- und Heimatverein des Kreises Uelzen e. V. Auflage: 1 Erscheinungsort: Uelzen Erscheinungsjahr: 2008 Umfang: 370 Seiten, 30 Abbildungen, 15 Tabellen ISBN: ISBN 3-929864-14-2 Reihe ; Band: Quellen und Darstellungen zur Geschichte von Stadt und Kreis Uelzen; Band 8 Viele Grüße from Germany Karlheinz (Zolk)