Vicky, The city of Heilbronn is a local administrative office (in the US we would call it a county seat.), and as such may have been a reference point for a local village (just as we would do). There is the possibility he was from a local village. There are many records available for rent at your local LDS Family History Center for Heilbronn. These are the subject entries where the online LDS Family History Library catalog shows. ================================= Germany, Württemberg, Heilbronn - Church history Germany, Württemberg, Heilbronn - Church records Germany, Württemberg, Heilbronn - Civil registration Germany, Württemberg, Heilbronn - Court records Germany, Württemberg, Heilbronn - Description and travel Germany, Württemberg, Heilbronn - Directories Germany, Württemberg, Heilbronn - Emigration and immigration Germany, Württemberg, Heilbronn - Heraldry Germany, Württemberg, Heilbronn - History Germany, Württemberg, Heilbronn - Land and property Germany, Württemberg, Heilbronn - Naturalization and citizenship Germany, Württemberg, Heilbronn - Public records Germany, Württemberg, Heilbronn - Town records ================================= Your August BIRN is not shown in the online database called "Emigration from Southwest-Germany," but he may be listed in the "Würtemberg Emigration Index" (Ancestry.com - subscription required). If he is listed in the WEI, the exact village he was from will be identified. Failing to find him in the WEI, you could start by renting the microfilms of the local church records for Heilbronn. First you will need the family religion to reduce the number of churches. If he was Catholic you are out of luck, because there are only Evangelische (Lutheran) church records available for Heilbronn. ======================= Kirchenbuch, 1567-1953 Evangelische Kirche Heilbronn (OA. Heilbronn) (Main Author) Parish register of baptisms, marriages, burials, family books and indexes for Heilbronn, Württemberg, Germany. 90 Mikrofilmrollen ; 35 mm. ... Taufen 1874-1881 - FHL INTL Film [ 1055559 ] Kirchenbuch, 1607-1880 Evangelische Kirche Heilbronn (OA. Heilbronn) (Main Author) Parish register of births, marriages, deaths, confirmations and family books of the city of Heilbronn, Württemberg , includes Sontheim.. 13 Mikrofilmrollen ; 35 mm. ======================= At 02:01 AM 12/9/2008, you wrote: >From: "Vicky L Hannam" <vhannam@sympatico.ca> >Subject: [BW] August BIRN of Heilbronn >To: <BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <002c01c95992$14bd3010$3e379030$@ca> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >I am new to this list and to researching German records. I have spent 20 + >yrs researching English lines but have never been able to follow my mothers >German line. A Canadian birth certificate of one of his sons lists my >mothers father, August George Birn as being born on Dec 11 1878 in Hielbron >Wurttemberg. > >The newly opened Canadian immigrant database has him arriving in Canada in >1904 from Liverpool. > > >Is there anybody that can point me in the right direction of where to start >in Germany. I am not able to come up with any Birns surnames in Germany. > > > >I would appreciate any direction or help. > > > >I have also been sent a photo of the Birns family outside a home in >Europe..a huge longshot but would anybody be willing to look at the photo >and suggest date or location ...perhaps by the kind of cloths worn by the >family or such. > > > >All in all, a family of mystery. > >Any help gratefully received. > >Vicky Hannam > >Canada ____________________________________________________________ Click for online loan, fast & no lender fee, approval today http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/PnY6rx9LUCtiVSg2dptvUtv3iD48xVzUYAQaYmo52oo6yUdCGTcry/
Well David I guess I should say Hello cousin. I don't know how but I know my Simon Link ancester was the proprietor of the Guesthaus of the Krone in Erlenbach on the Main River, Leopold his son and my great grandfather came to America @1870. She married Maria Huber in 1878 in New York. Later they moved to New Jersey. Maybe some day we can find the connection. Have a wonderful holiday season. Hugs, Sally ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Stroebel" <davidstroebel@yahoo.com> To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [BW] For Sally Link Sally, You are correct in that your ancestors were from Erlenbach because the granddaughter of my Grandfather's brother told me that twice. So there must be a connection to the Links and Lamprecht's because Mary Link was the owner of the grave that Magdalena Helen Stroebele (Nee Lamprecht), her husband Adolf Theodor Stroebele, and their son William A. Stroebele are buried in at Flower Hill Cemetery in North bergen, NJ. Dave --- On Sun, 12/7/08, Russ and Sally <scott1@embarqmail.com> wrote: > From: Russ and Sally <scott1@embarqmail.com> > Subject: Re: [BW] Archive for Birth Records for Rotenbach, Germany? > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 2:48 PM > Hello Could anyone tell me where the records of my family > could be located? > Prior to @1840's they lived in Laudenbach au main, > Then Simon Link( my > great great grand father) married Anna Maria Hohn in Worth > and then they > live in Anna Maria;s town of Erlenbach au main where Simon > was the > proprietor of a Gusthaus of the Krone. I don't know > anything about my > family's histories, and would love to know where to > write to locate it. I > think they were Catholic, Thank you for any help you might > be able to give > me, Sally Link Scott from Newton, New Jersey ----- > Original Message ----- > From: "Fred H Held" <fhheld@netzero.net> > To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com>; "David > Stroebel" > <davidstroebel@yahoo.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 5:21 PM > Subject: Re: [BW] Archive for Birth Records for Rotenbach, > Germany? > > > David, > > The Rotenbach you are describing is less than 1 > mile from the city of Ellwangen. It is very > likely the records you are looking for may be > rented at your local LDS Family History Center. > ================================ > Kirchenbuch, 1563-1903 > Katholische Kirche. Stadtpfarrei Sankt Vitus > Ellwangen (OA. Ellwangen) (Main Author) > Roman Catholic parish register of baptisms, > marriages, deaths, confirmations and family > registers for Ellwangen (OA. Ellwangen), > Württemberg, Germany. The family registers > (Familienregister) are divided into two groups: > the city of Ellwangen (Stadt) and the surrounding towns and > villages (Land). > 24 Mikrofilmrollen ; 35 mm. > ================================ > > At 02:01 AM 12/6/2008, you wrote: > >From: David Stroebel <davidstroebel@yahoo.com> > >Subject: [BW] Archive for Birth Records for Rotenbach, > Germany? > > > >(Rotenbach 73453 is 70Km east of Stuttgart) > > > >Hello all, > > > >Today I was told where my GGF was born, but do > >not know what archive to contact, and I cannot > >find a town web site for Rotenbach. Can someone > possible help me? > > > >Thanks so much, > > > >David > > ____________________________________________________________ > Looking for business phone systems? Click here to reduce > your phone bills > by up to 50%. > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/PnY6ryAzrQhHaofxiT483vowYLeojBKt496FdvPYSTYxQDsz3tntq/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I am new to this list and to researching German records. I have spent 20 + yrs researching English lines but have never been able to follow my mothers German line. A Canadian birth certificate of one of his sons lists my mothers father, August George Birn as being born on Dec 11 1878 in Hielbron Wurttemberg. The newly opened Canadian immigrant database has him arriving in Canada in 1904 from Liverpool. Is there anybody that can point me in the right direction of where to start in Germany. I am not able to come up with any Birns surnames in Germany. I would appreciate any direction or help. I have also been sent a photo of the Birns family outside a home in Europe..a huge longshot but would anybody be willing to look at the photo and suggest date or location ...perhaps by the kind of cloths worn by the family or such. All in all, a family of mystery. Any help gratefully received. Vicky Hannam Canada
...........when you follow some suggestions. Hi, I'm sure everyone has had experiences with research in Germany. I've been writing letters and making telephone calls since 1956. When Al Gore invented the internet, I jumped in with both feet. I confided with Germans in Germany about the proper approach. I met with several in Germany. I met in Dallas, Texas, with a gentleman from Germany. That's how I developed my website procedures, http://members.cox.net/hessen/hsstory.htm which leads to lots of other links. Since 1956 I have had one entity fail to respond and one respond by sending the response to my incorrect snail-mail mailing address. We worked around that, of course. I include address instructions at my website. I use E-Mail and the telephone to determine the appropriate entities in Germany to contact, whether church or civil archives. Sometimes it takes more than one E-Mail, more than one telephone call to nail it down. I rely heavily upon the German telephone directory, http://members.cox.net/hessen/telephones.htm (the only one with instructions) for addresses and telephone numbers of churches and municipal government. I use GOOGLE in an effort to acquire E-Mail addresses. All of my experiences have been incorporated into my website. If you have questions about contacting Germany, it is all there. While Germans are formal and direct in government, church staff are most cordial. I have the advantage of being able to speak, read, and write German. I offer my expertise to everyone through my website. Remember that the Germans don't conduct research for free. Government sets the fee schedule, and some churches follow it. Many churches accept simple donations. Read about it at the website. I'm older now and unable to devote full time and attention to German research. However, if you have a question that CANNOT BE ANSWERED at the website, contact me, dwats@cox.net for assistance, and the other E-Mail addy, dons-translations@cox.net for translations. Between 1956 and 2003 ALL of my services were free. Hundreds of letters, telephone calls, E-Mail messages, accurate translations. By 2003 the demand had become so great that I was spending more time at the computer than elsewhere. I began to charge for translations at that point. That resulted in a big drop in the number of inquiries, freeing up time for me to be with my wife, our children, grand-children, and great-grandchildren. Contact with German archives is possible and productive via letter, telephone, and E-Mail. Just don't do it in the English language with lots of extraneous information in your inquiry. Need a letter in German? They are free at my website. You can adjust the info as indicated there. Read carefully. Give the Germans the option to respond to you in English. An exception to that is the archives for the Evangelical Church in Hessen, at Kassel, where English-language inquiries are accepted, but that's not Baden-Wurttemberg. Don't send a Baden-Wurttemberg inquiry to Kassel! Thanks for readings........... :-) Don http://members.cox.net/hessen/donstrans.htm
Sandy, First, we discourage writing inquiry letters to the village, either city hall or church. Many of us on the various German mail lists have had the experience of having our letters ignored. The reason, we suspect, other than their statement that "they do not do genealogy", is that they know their old village records are available on microfilm at local LDS Family History Centers. Second, "au Main" means "on the Main River" which is out of the area served by the Baden-Würtemberg mail list. According to Wikipedia "Erlenbach am Main" is in the district of Miltenberg, in Bavaria. ShtetlSeeker shows Laudenbach as being 3.5 miles SSE of Erlenbach, also in Bavaria. You need to make your queries on a mail list that serves that area, such as http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/DEU/BAVARIAN-ANCESTORS.html At 02:01 AM 12/8/2008, you wrote: >From: "Russ and Sally" <scott1@embarqmail.com> >Subject: Re: [BW] Archive for Birth Records for Rotenbach, Germany? > >Hello Could anyone tell me where the records of my family could be located? >Prior to @1840's they lived in Laudenbach au main, Then Simon Link( my >great great grand father) married Anna Maria Hohn in Worth and then they >live in Anna Maria;s town of Erlenbach au main where Simon was the >proprietor of a Gusthaus of the Krone. I don't know anything about my >family's histories, and would love to know where to write to locate it. I >think they were Catholic, Thank you for any help you might be able to give >me, Sally Link Scott from Newton, New Jersey ____________________________________________________________ Click here to find the perfect picture with our powerful photo search features. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/PnY6rx8VZ6vVb3occ97mqnjfs6GHOVXDkzDEURNJPLT138ormGc8M/
Sally, You are correct in that your ancestors were from Erlenbach because the granddaughter of my Grandfather's brother told me that twice. So there must be a connection to the Links and Lamprecht's because Mary Link was the owner of the grave that Magdalena Helen Stroebele (Nee Lamprecht), her husband Adolf Theodor Stroebele, and their son William A. Stroebele are buried in at Flower Hill Cemetery in North bergen, NJ. Dave --- On Sun, 12/7/08, Russ and Sally <scott1@embarqmail.com> wrote: > From: Russ and Sally <scott1@embarqmail.com> > Subject: Re: [BW] Archive for Birth Records for Rotenbach, Germany? > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 2:48 PM > Hello Could anyone tell me where the records of my family > could be located? > Prior to @1840's they lived in Laudenbach au main, > Then Simon Link( my > great great grand father) married Anna Maria Hohn in Worth > and then they > live in Anna Maria;s town of Erlenbach au main where Simon > was the > proprietor of a Gusthaus of the Krone. I don't know > anything about my > family's histories, and would love to know where to > write to locate it. I > think they were Catholic, Thank you for any help you might > be able to give > me, Sally Link Scott from Newton, New Jersey ----- > Original Message ----- > From: "Fred H Held" <fhheld@netzero.net> > To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com>; "David > Stroebel" > <davidstroebel@yahoo.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 5:21 PM > Subject: Re: [BW] Archive for Birth Records for Rotenbach, > Germany? > > > David, > > The Rotenbach you are describing is less than 1 > mile from the city of Ellwangen. It is very > likely the records you are looking for may be > rented at your local LDS Family History Center. > ================================ > Kirchenbuch, 1563-1903 > Katholische Kirche. Stadtpfarrei Sankt Vitus > Ellwangen (OA. Ellwangen) (Main Author) > Roman Catholic parish register of baptisms, > marriages, deaths, confirmations and family > registers for Ellwangen (OA. Ellwangen), > Württemberg, Germany. The family registers > (Familienregister) are divided into two groups: > the city of Ellwangen (Stadt) and the surrounding towns and > villages (Land). > 24 Mikrofilmrollen ; 35 mm. > ================================ > > At 02:01 AM 12/6/2008, you wrote: > >From: David Stroebel <davidstroebel@yahoo.com> > >Subject: [BW] Archive for Birth Records for Rotenbach, > Germany? > > > >(Rotenbach 73453 is 70Km east of Stuttgart) > > > >Hello all, > > > >Today I was told where my GGF was born, but do > >not know what archive to contact, and I cannot > >find a town web site for Rotenbach. Can someone > possible help me? > > > >Thanks so much, > > > >David > > ____________________________________________________________ > Looking for business phone systems? Click here to reduce > your phone bills > by up to 50%. > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/PnY6ryAzrQhHaofxiT483vowYLeojBKt496FdvPYSTYxQDsz3tntq/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message
If they aren't at the FHC LDS in Salt Lake....... http://familysearch.org, then....... B C/B MD records are normally in the church before 1874-76. You would contact the church in Laudenbach am Main to start with. Napoleon influenced records-keeping when he was out rampaging across Europe, so some civil governments started records-keeping before 1874. Look up the addy for each Catholic church at http://members.cox.net/hessen/telephones.htm the only on with instructions. Detailed research instructions are at http://members.cox.net/hessen/hsstory.htm if you are just beginning your search. :-) Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russ and Sally" <scott1@embarqmail.com> Hello Could anyone tell me where the records of my family could be located? Prior to @1840's they lived in Laudenbach au main, Then Simon Link( my great great grand father) married Anna Maria Hohn in Worth and then they live in Anna Maria;s town of Erlenbach au main
Hello Could anyone tell me where the records of my family could be located? Prior to @1840's they lived in Laudenbach au main, Then Simon Link( my great great grand father) married Anna Maria Hohn in Worth and then they live in Anna Maria;s town of Erlenbach au main where Simon was the proprietor of a Gusthaus of the Krone. I don't know anything about my family's histories, and would love to know where to write to locate it. I think they were Catholic, Thank you for any help you might be able to give me, Sally Link Scott from Newton, New Jersey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred H Held" <fhheld@netzero.net> To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com>; "David Stroebel" <davidstroebel@yahoo.com> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [BW] Archive for Birth Records for Rotenbach, Germany? David, The Rotenbach you are describing is less than 1 mile from the city of Ellwangen. It is very likely the records you are looking for may be rented at your local LDS Family History Center. ================================ Kirchenbuch, 1563-1903 Katholische Kirche. Stadtpfarrei Sankt Vitus Ellwangen (OA. Ellwangen) (Main Author) Roman Catholic parish register of baptisms, marriages, deaths, confirmations and family registers for Ellwangen (OA. Ellwangen), Württemberg, Germany. The family registers (Familienregister) are divided into two groups: the city of Ellwangen (Stadt) and the surrounding towns and villages (Land). 24 Mikrofilmrollen ; 35 mm. ================================ At 02:01 AM 12/6/2008, you wrote: >From: David Stroebel <davidstroebel@yahoo.com> >Subject: [BW] Archive for Birth Records for Rotenbach, Germany? > >(Rotenbach 73453 is 70Km east of Stuttgart) > >Hello all, > >Today I was told where my GGF was born, but do >not know what archive to contact, and I cannot >find a town web site for Rotenbach. Can someone possible help me? > >Thanks so much, > >David ____________________________________________________________ Looking for business phone systems? Click here to reduce your phone bills by up to 50%. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/PnY6ryAzrQhHaofxiT483vowYLeojBKt496FdvPYSTYxQDsz3tntq/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
David, The Rotenbach you are describing is less than 1 mile from the city of Ellwangen. It is very likely the records you are looking for may be rented at your local LDS Family History Center. ================================ Kirchenbuch, 1563-1903 Katholische Kirche. Stadtpfarrei Sankt Vitus Ellwangen (OA. Ellwangen) (Main Author) Roman Catholic parish register of baptisms, marriages, deaths, confirmations and family registers for Ellwangen (OA. Ellwangen), Württemberg, Germany. The family registers (Familienregister) are divided into two groups: the city of Ellwangen (Stadt) and the surrounding towns and villages (Land). 24 Mikrofilmrollen ; 35 mm. ================================ At 02:01 AM 12/6/2008, you wrote: >From: David Stroebel <davidstroebel@yahoo.com> >Subject: [BW] Archive for Birth Records for Rotenbach, Germany? > >(Rotenbach 73453 is 70Km east of Stuttgart) > >Hello all, > >Today I was told where my GGF was born, but do >not know what archive to contact, and I cannot >find a town web site for Rotenbach. Can someone possible help me? > >Thanks so much, > >David ____________________________________________________________ Looking for business phone systems? Click here to reduce your phone bills by up to 50%. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/PnY6ryAzrQhHaofxiT483vowYLeojBKt496FdvPYSTYxQDsz3tntq/
David, I don't know how long you are researching your ancestors in Germany. If you are still not experienced you will learn soon that in this country you will never get a simple answer to a simple question :-). The history of Germany is rather complicated and and so is the history of its administration. And Rosna the small village you are interested in is even a worse case than a usual one. Unfortunately it lies in a region were the the pride, the jealousy and the religion of three states interfered: the Grand Duchy of Baden, the Kingdom of Württemberg and the Princedom of Hohenzollern. So there is no way to find out where the files about the former teachers of Rosna are preserved than to ask those who are responsible for the education of today's Rosna: the administration of the town Mengen. I recommend to write a letter to Mayor of city of Mengen. He certainly will forward your letter to the right place. This is the address: Herrn Buergermeister Stefan Bubeck Rathaus Hauptstraße 90 88512 Mengen Germany If you are lucky he addresses you to knowledgeable person of this region. Stroebel is a rather common name there and possibly some research has already been done by other persons. Good luck Dieter PS If you encounter severe problems let me know. I live only dozens of miles south of Rosna resp. Mengen. On 5 Dec 2008 at 13:14, David Stroebel wrote: > Thanks very much Dieter, > > Do you know if any school records exist that will reveal my GGF's > first name, address, etc when he was a teacher around 1844-1865? > > Thanks > > Dave > > > --- On Fri, 12/5/08, Dieter Joos <djoos@dieter-joos.de> wrote: > > > From: Dieter Joos <djoos@dieter-joos.de> > > Subject: Re: [BW] Anyone Ever Lived in Rosna, Sigmaringendoft Dist? > > To: "David Stroebel" <davidstroebel@yahoo.com>, > > baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 12:32 > > PM David > > > > Rosna is a small village of 320 inhabitants, nowadays > > integrated into the > > town Mengen. Here is a link: > > http://www.mengen.de/wDeutsch/stadtportrait/ortsteile/rosna.php?navi > > d=102 > > > > Dieter > > -- > > Dieter Joos > > Ueberlingen / Bodensee, Germany > > Webmaster of RootsWeb's Baden-Wuerttemberg Mailing List > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5 Dec 2008 at 11:52, David Stroebel wrote: > > > > > I am seeking anyone familiar with Rosna, near > > Sigmaringen in > > > Baden-Wurttemberg? I am seeking a web link (I already > > tried looking > > > for it) that will give me all the schoools in the > > Rosna area. > > > > > > I learned today that my great great grandfather was a > > teacher in this > > > town, but his first name is not known. > > > > > > Thanks so much, > > > > > > David
David Rosna is a small village of 320 inhabitants, nowadays integrated into the town Mengen. Here is a link: http://www.mengen.de/wDeutsch/stadtportrait/ortsteile/rosna.php?navid=102 Dieter -- Dieter Joos Ueberlingen / Bodensee, Germany Webmaster of RootsWeb's Baden-Wuerttemberg Mailing List On 5 Dec 2008 at 11:52, David Stroebel wrote: > I am seeking anyone familiar with Rosna, near Sigmaringen in > Baden-Wurttemberg? I am seeking a web link (I already tried looking > for it) that will give me all the schoools in the Rosna area. > > I learned today that my great great grandfather was a teacher in this > town, but his first name is not known. > > Thanks so much, > > David > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Need to know WHO WHERE WHEN WHAT you already know, his FAITH, and WHAT you need to know. Then I can assist you rather easily. :-) Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Stroebel" <davidstroebel@yahoo.com> To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:44 PM Subject: [BW] Archive for Birth Records for Rotenbach, Germany? (Rotenbach 73453 is 70Km east of Stuttgart) Hello all, Today I was told where my GGF was born, but do not know what archive to contact, and I cannot find a town web site for Rotenbach. Can someone possible help me? Thanks so much, David ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I am seeking anyone familiar with Rosna, near Sigmaringen in Baden-Wurttemberg? I am seeking a web link (I already tried looking for it) that will give me all the schoools in the Rosna area. I learned today that my great great grandfather was a teacher in this town, but his first name is not known. Thanks so much, David
(Rotenbach 73453 is 70Km east of Stuttgart) Hello all, Today I was told where my GGF was born, but do not know what archive to contact, and I cannot find a town web site for Rotenbach. Can someone possible help me? Thanks so much, David
Hi Carlisle, i think, it should be SFO/California. *Von:* "Carlisle Danzeisen's" <1833danzeisen@embarqmail.com> *Gesendet:* 30.11.08 17:55:39 *An:* <BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@ROOTSWEB.COM> *Betreff:* Re: [BW] Maier-family Angelika, Do you know which state the San Francisco is in? There is a San Francisco in both California and Minnesota. -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Angelika Dannenberg Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 1:58 PM To: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com Subject: [BW] Maier-family I have learnt today,that Joseph Maier(the youngest brother,born07.01.1875) maybe passed away on 19.09.1959 in San Francisco. Does anybody know anything about that,thats not too long back. Angelika Dannenberg Psssst! Schon vom neuen WEB.DE MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: *http://www.produkte.web.de/messenger/?did=3123* [http://www.produkte.web.de/messenger/?did=3123] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Psssst! Schon vom neuen WEB.DE MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: *http://www.produkte.web.de/messenger/?did=3123* [http://www.produkte.web.de/messenger/?did=3123]
Hi Ralph, in Goldscheuer is a historical club = Heimatverein. I would recomment you write to them to get more info. Hope they understand english. This is the mailing address: Heimatverein Hans R o s e r Lessingweg 4 77694 Kehl-Goldscheuer or e-mail: heimatverein.gmk@t-online.de Just try it, usually they have very good and interesting information. Regards Erika (Stuttgart, Germany) -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von Ralph Haus Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. Dezember 2008 17:21 An: Baden-Wurttemberg Betreff: [BW] Goldscheuer-Marlen Research Help List, I have been researching my Batschka ancestry, in particular the HAUS line, and have finally had a possible break through in the quest to discover the German origin for this line of the family. I have information that now places an ancestor, Andreas HAUS, b abt 1740, as having been born in Goldscheuer. Andreas HAUS appears on the Stader list and also in the Harjung & Reimann and Schuy-Tuffner Hodschag OSBs. My initial research for Goldscheuer information indicates that some of the early church records (Catholic) for this district were destroyed in a fire and research prior to the 1820's would be impossible. So I am now trying to discover families in the area who are either associated with, descendants of, this generation of relatives, and enjoy genealogy. Or find a resource that has additional information, such as civil records. My research would start somewhere in the 1760's. This is when Andreas HAUS was noted as having migrated to the Batschka region, in particular the village of Hodschag. What I know. My family has always had Catholic roots (at least until the 20th century), So I would be confident on the point of religious affiliation. The detail that I have is as follows (according to the Harjung & Reimann Hodschag OSB): Andreas HAUS * 1744 in Goldscheuer oo 15.02.1762 to Anna Maria THORER (DORER, TORER) *1744 8 Children Stader lists this couple as marrying in Hodschag, but I hold out hope that they either knew each other prior to migration or their families came from the same area. So research on the wife's name would also be important. One complication is that there is an additional Andreas HAUS listed in the Harjung & Reimann Hodschag OSB. This second Andreas has the same approximate birth date and is listed as marrying a Magdalena WACHSTLER and having 8 children. My suspicion is that the OSB authors missed a first name and only picked up on the second name. What is interesting is that this second Andreas (nor anyone resembling him) appears in the Schuy-Tuffner Hodschag OSB. In this OSB the children (the names and birth dates match between them) are solely attributed to the Andreas HAUS that married Anna Maria THORER. Very confusing. But this does not change the German origin place name, Goldscheuer. Only possibly adding another surname for research, WACHSTLER. One other clue, unsupported, but suspicious. In the Schuy-Tuffner Hodschag OSB there is a Lorenz HAUS who, by my intuition, appears to be Andreas' brother. He married a Anna Maria LAUBER (LEBER). I know this is a lot of information. My basic goal is to find someone in the Goldscheuer region who may have knowledge of these families. A search in the German white pages reveled no HAUS names. Ralph Haus ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
You can test various spellings of the surname at http://members.cox.net/hessen/telephones.htm German families often named children the same first name, then the second child and beyond went by a second name. :-) Don
In a message dated 12/2/2008 11:23:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, rhaus@hughes.net writes: List, I have been researching my Batschka ancestry, in particular the HAUS line, and have finally had a possible break through in the quest to discover the German origin for this line of the family. I have information that now places an ancestor, Andreas HAUS, b abt 1740, as having been born in Goldscheuer. Andreas HAUS appears on the Stader list and also in the Harjung & Reimann and Schuy-Tuffner Hodschag OSBs. My initial research for Goldscheuer information indicates that some of the early church records (Catholic) for this district were destroyed in a fire and research prior to the 1820's would be impossible. Have you looked at this LDS microfilm? Kent Title Kirchenbuch, 1743-1816 Authors Katholische Kirche Marlen (A. Offenburg) (Main Author) Notes Mikrofilm aufgenommen von Manuskripten im Erzbischöflichen Archiv Freiburg. Parish register of baptisms, marriages, deaths and family registers for Marlen, Baden, Germany. Includes Goldscheuer and Kittersburg. Subjects Germany, Baden, Marlen - Church records Germany, Baden, Kittersburg - Church records Germany, Baden, Goldscheuer - Church records Format Manuscript (On Film) Language German Publication Salt Lake City, Utah : Gefilmt durch The Genealogical Society of Utah, 1977 Physical 1 Mikrofilmrolle ; 35 mm Film Notes Note - Location [Film] Taufen, Heiraten, Tote 1743 Familienbuch ab 1758 Heiraten 1758-1816 Familienbuch ab 1758 - FHL INTL Film [ 1056241 ] **************Finally, one site has it all: your friends, your email, your favorite sites. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000006)
List, I have been researching my Batschka ancestry, in particular the HAUS line, and have finally had a possible break through in the quest to discover the German origin for this line of the family. I have information that now places an ancestor, Andreas HAUS, b abt 1740, as having been born in Goldscheuer. Andreas HAUS appears on the Stader list and also in the Harjung & Reimann and Schuy-Tuffner Hodschag OSBs. My initial research for Goldscheuer information indicates that some of the early church records (Catholic) for this district were destroyed in a fire and research prior to the 1820's would be impossible. So I am now trying to discover families in the area who are either associated with, descendants of, this generation of relatives, and enjoy genealogy. Or find a resource that has additional information, such as civil records. My research would start somewhere in the 1760's. This is when Andreas HAUS was noted as having migrated to the Batschka region, in particular the village of Hodschag. What I know. My family has always had Catholic roots (at least until the 20th century), So I would be confident on the point of religious affiliation. The detail that I have is as follows (according to the Harjung & Reimann Hodschag OSB): Andreas HAUS * 1744 in Goldscheuer oo 15.02.1762 to Anna Maria THORER (DORER, TORER) *1744 8 Children Stader lists this couple as marrying in Hodschag, but I hold out hope that they either knew each other prior to migration or their families came from the same area. So research on the wife's name would also be important. One complication is that there is an additional Andreas HAUS listed in the Harjung & Reimann Hodschag OSB. This second Andreas has the same approximate birth date and is listed as marrying a Magdalena WACHSTLER and having 8 children. My suspicion is that the OSB authors missed a first name and only picked up on the second name. What is interesting is that this second Andreas (nor anyone resembling him) appears in the Schuy-Tuffner Hodschag OSB. In this OSB the children (the names and birth dates match between them) are solely attributed to the Andreas HAUS that married Anna Maria THORER. Very confusing. But this does not change the German origin place name, Goldscheuer. Only possibly adding another surname for research, WACHSTLER. One other clue, unsupported, but suspicious. In the Schuy-Tuffner Hodschag OSB there is a Lorenz HAUS who, by my intuition, appears to be Andreas' brother. He married a Anna Maria LAUBER (LEBER). I know this is a lot of information. My basic goal is to find someone in the Goldscheuer region who may have knowledge of these families. A search in the German white pages reveled no HAUS names. Ralph Haus
Dear List Members, I'm writing a short piece on money and other measures which were used in Germany, particularly in Baden and Württemberg, during the early modern period (late 1500s to the early 1800s). There were many types of coins and coinage systems in existence in Baden and Württemberg during that period, but the most common seemed to be the Gulden (also called the Florin). In general, each Gulden was worth 60 Kreuzer, which was a small coin imprinted with a cross. Each Kreuzer was worth 4 Pfennige (pennies) or 8 Heller. Of course, those facts dont tell us the value of these coins. I have looked in vain, through many books and Internet sites, to find examples of what the coins bought during the early modern period. What did a cow cost? Or a wagon? What did a blacksmith charge to shoe a horse, or a shoemaker for a pair of shoes? How much did a common laborer earn for a days work? Can any of you help me to come up with some examples? If so, I would also need your sources, i.e., where you found your examples. Thanks in advance, Teva Scheer