Hello Christopher, I agree with Toy Schach's reading of the name. The first example uses the German sz character and the second one uses the equivalent ss. Remember that the -in at the end was added to denote female gender, and is not really part of the name. So her real maiden name was Hess spelled either with ss or sz (ALT key plus numeric keypad 0223). Greetings from California, Michael Searching around Rotenfels, Kreis Rastatt for: MAYER SCHMOLL HETZEL EISELE LANGENBACH KLUMPP

Angelika, Do you have the birth dates for the children? There are a number of people born in various German states, with the given names of these children in the 1880 census. Year of birth would help to sort them out and perhaps find some possibilities. Marleen Van Horne

My 5th great-grandfather, Anton Schoch was married to Maria Elisabetha Haes (that is her surname according to the IGI), but looking at the church records this does not appear to be her surname. I have posted to images of her name from Forbach, Baden, church records at: http://www.chrisbarttels.net/meschoch.html<http://www.chrisbarttels.net/meschoch.html> I would appreciate any input as to her correct surname. Thanks so much to all. Christopher Barttels Dayton, WA

Hi Don, I have learnt by now,that my ancestors arrived in New York with SS "Fresia" on the 19th of May in 1875 from Hamburg.But then i have no idea,where they disappeared.How can I trace them??? Any tips from your side??? IŽve learnt as well, that Katharina came back to Germany and her son Philipp as well(Philipp maybe about 1888) and the date for Katharina i dont know.But where were they staying inbetween? The story of Philipp was, that his mother disappeared on arrival and all three children were parted to 3 different families,but he came back under the name Maier,but he didnŽt know anything what happend to his brotherŽs and where they lived. Angelika *Von:* "Don Watson" <dwats@cox.net> *Gesendet:* 05.01.09 02:58:17 *An:* <BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@ROOTSWEB.COM> *Betreff:* Re: [BW] translation request Yep, I can translate it. dons-translations@cox.net :-) Don ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Sensationsangebot verlängert: WEB.DE FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL für nur 16,37 Euro/mtl.!* *http://dsl.web.de/?ac=OM.AD.AD008K15039B7069a* [http://dsl.web.de/?ac=OM.AD.AD008K15039B7069a]

My mother's aunt was Hannah Mingel (or Minkel) Pfister, born 1848, in Prussia. She was married to George Pfister, born 1846 in Wuerttemberg. They emigrated in 1867 to Phillipsburg, New Jersey. I am not sure the German localities are correct - they are copied from other documents and I think everyone was confused about German states at the time. Hannah's sister, my great-grandmother, married Johannes Fuehrer, from Hessen, and they came over later to join the Pfisters. (I am sure about the Hessen - they came from Oelshausen, according to a baptismal certificate). My father's mother was Wilhelmina Strobel, born 1864, 1867 or 1868, depending on the document you read. She emigrated in 1883. On the marriage record for her second marriage (to my grandfather) the pastor noted she was from Mohringen, in Wuerttemberg-Baden. She also spent some time in an orphanage in Switzerland. Her English was never good, and she died the year I was born, so I do not know much more than this. Thank you very much for any help you can give. Elizabeth C Michael Wolf wrote: > Dear Elizabeth, > > could you give me more details? > > There are so much papers and these are wrote in old german like sütterlin or current. > > Michael > > > *Von:* "Elizabeth Cunningham" <drybones@netreach.net> > *Gesendet:* 06.01.09 17:02:52 > *An:* baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > *Betreff:* Re: [BW] Familien in Hechingen - Hohenzollern > > > > I have a Pfister and a Strobel, so I would also appreciate information. > > Elizabeth C > > >

Thanks Elizabeth... --- On Wed, 1/7/09, Elizabeth Cunningham <drybones@netreach.net> wrote: > From: Elizabeth Cunningham <drybones@netreach.net> > Subject: Re: [BW] Familien in Hechingen - Hohenzollern > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 1:10 PM > My mother's aunt was Hannah Mingel (or Minkel) Pfister, > born 1848, in > Prussia. She was married to George Pfister, born 1846 in > Wuerttemberg. > They emigrated in 1867 to Phillipsburg, New Jersey. I am > not sure the > German localities are correct - they are copied from other > documents and > I think everyone was confused about German states at the > time. Hannah's > sister, my great-grandmother, married Johannes Fuehrer, > from Hessen, and > they came over later to join the Pfisters. (I am sure about > the Hessen - > they came from Oelshausen, according to a baptismal > certificate). > > My father's mother was Wilhelmina Strobel, born 1864, > 1867 or 1868, > depending on the document you read. She emigrated in 1883. > On the > marriage record for her second marriage (to my grandfather) > the pastor > noted she was from Mohringen, in Wuerttemberg-Baden. She > also spent > some time in an orphanage in Switzerland. Her English was > never good, > and she died the year I was born, so I do not know much > more than this. > > Thank you very much for any help you can give. > > Elizabeth C > > Michael Wolf wrote: > > Dear Elizabeth, > > > > could you give me more details? > > > > There are so much papers and these are wrote in old > german like sütterlin or current. > > > > Michael > > > > > > *Von:* "Elizabeth Cunningham" > <drybones@netreach.net> > > *Gesendet:* 06.01.09 17:02:52 > > *An:* baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > > *Betreff:* Re: [BW] Familien in Hechingen - > Hohenzollern > > > > > > > > I have a Pfister and a Strobel, so I would also > appreciate information. > > > > Elizabeth C > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

here you go .. it is from the All recipes site.... http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Pfeffernusse-Cookies/Detail.aspx?prop31=7 hope this helps.. Beth (Knappenberger) Rachas Pfeffernusse Cookies SUBMITTED BY: Thebeansma PHOTO BY: aplach "I have searched far and wide for a recipe that mimics my favorite, store-bought version of these cookies. I think, after days of thrown-out cookies, I have come as close as I can get." RECIPE RATING: Read Reviews (12) Review/Rate This Recipe -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PREP TIME 15 Min COOK TIME 15 Min READY IN 3 Hrs Original recipe yield 3 dozen cookies SERVINGS (Help) Servings US METRIC INGREDIENTS (Nutrition) a.. 1/2 cup molasses b.. 1/4 cup honey c.. 1/4 cup shortening d.. 1/4 cup margarine e.. 2 eggs f.. 4 cups all-purpose flour g.. 3/4 cup white sugar h.. 1/2 cup brown sugar i.. 1 1/2 teaspoons ground cardamom j.. 1 teaspoon ground nutmeg k.. 1 teaspoon ground cloves l.. 1 teaspoon ground ginger m.. 2 teaspoons anise extract n.. 2 teaspoons ground cinnamon o.. 1 1/2 teaspoons baking soda p.. 1 teaspoon ground black pepper q.. 1/2 teaspoon salt r.. 1 cup confectioners' sugar for dusting a.. Add to Recipe Box My folders: b.. Add to Shopping List c.. Add a Personal Note DIRECTIONS 1.. Stir together the molasses, honey, shortening, and margarine in a saucepan over medium heat; cook and stir until creamy. Remove from heat and allow to cool to room temperature. Stir in the eggs. 2.. Combine the flour, white sugar, brown sugar, cardamom, nutmeg, cloves, ginger, anise, cinnamon, baking soda, pepper, and salt in a large bowl. Add the molasses mixture and stir until thoroughly combines. Refrigerate at least 2 hours. 3.. Preheat oven to 325 degrees F (165 degrees C). Roll the dough into acorn-sized balls. Arrange on baking sheets, spacing at least 1 inch apart. 4.. Bake in preheated oven 10 to 15 minutes. Move to a rack to cool. Dust cooled cookies with confectioners' sugar. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm Woods" <nhwoods@yahoo.com> To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:44 PM Beth Subject: Re: [BW] Pfeffernuesse Angelika, I should be able to figure it out from the recipe. thank you so much for going to the trouble. Norm ________________________________ From: Norm Woods <nhwoods@yahoo.com> To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 6:11:54 PM Subject: Re: [BW] Pfeffernuesse Angelika, My german is basically non existant, so english would be preferred. Thanks, Norm ________________________________ From: Angelika Dannenberg <Angelika.Dannenberg@web.de> To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 6:42:54 AM Subject: Re: [BW] Pfeffernuesse Hi Norm, can you read the recipe in german, or must i translate in english? Angelika *Von:* "Norm Woods" <nhwoods@yahoo.com> *Gesendet:* 23.12.08 05:35:37 *An:* BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com *Betreff:* [BW] Pfeffernuesse I know this is off topic, but considering the season, does anyone have a recipe for Pfeffernuesse cookies? My mother made them and I can't find her recipe. Merry Christmas to all Norm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Sensationsangebot verlängert: WEB.DE FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL für nur 16,37 Euro/mtl.!* *http://dsl.web.de/?ac=OM.AD.AD008K15039B7069a* [http://dsl.web.de/?ac=OM.AD.AD008K15039B7069a] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Elizabeth, could you give me more details? There are so much papers and these are wrote in old german like sütterlin or current. Michael *Von:* "Elizabeth Cunningham" <drybones@netreach.net> *Gesendet:* 06.01.09 17:02:52 *An:* baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com *Betreff:* Re: [BW] Familien in Hechingen - Hohenzollern I have a Pfister and a Strobel, so I would also appreciate information. Elizabeth C Max Burgdorf wrote: > > > Any information relating to the PFISTER name will be greatly > appreciated. Thank you. > > Max Burgdorf pharmaxx@knology.net BODY { font-family:Arial, > Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; } > On Tue 01/06/09 4:04 AM , Michael Wolf S-M-Zak@web.de sent: > Hello, > I have information about following families from Hechingen, > Hohenzollern. > If you need information, please send a e-mail. > kind regards. > Michael > Hechingen - Hohenzollern > Name > Abele > Aichgasser > Alber > Bahr > Bailer > Bär > Barth > Bartholomä > Basso > Baur > Bausinger > Bayer > Bechtold > Beck > Berger > Berghofer (Perckhofer) > Beuter > Bieger > Birkle > Blumenstetter > Boll > Bosch > Breimesser > Brodrotti > Brucker > Bruckmaier > Buckenmaier > Bulach > Bürgen > Burkhard > Cammerer > Ciwinsky > Daiker > De Pay > Dettinger > Diebold > Dieboldt > Diengold > Dieringer > Dröscher > Eberle > Egert > Eggert > Egler > Eming > Faber > Fahlenschmid > Falkner > Fecker > Ferber > Feundrig > Fischer > Fixle > Freudemann > Frick > Fugler > Funk > Gaynus > Geiger > Gfrörer > Glockher > Grainer > Gransche > Grathwohl > Greißinger > Greyling > Gröber > Gsellen - Gsell > Güntner > Gunz > Haag > Hagßen > Hahn > Haimann > Hamden > Hanen > Hecht > Hehn > Hellstein > Hellstern > Henne > Hentsch > Herppen > Herri > Hipp > Hirlinger > Hirschauer > Höbel > Hochschild > Hofer > Höhnlin > Holzapfel > Hölzel > Horrer > Huber > Hummel > Hurrer > Jochum (Jochem) > Joos > Junele > Kaiser > Karch > Käßmodel > Kastenschmidt > Keck > Kezzner (Kessler) > Kimm > Kindler > Kipften > Kirner > Kleiner > Kleinmann > Klingler > Klotz > Knabich > Koch > Koderholden > Kofler > Kölle > Kömm > Kostanzer > Kreuttner > Kriechel > Kunanz > Lacher > Laib > Lämmle > Landolten > Langenegger > Langenstein > Lettich > Ling > Lintner > Locher > Lorch > Männel > Matter > Menz > Merkel > Metzger > Mezger > Moser > Mößmer > Müller > Nadler > Neher > Nerz > Neujahr > Niclaus > Oster > Österle > Ott > Öttinger > Pfister > Pflumm > Pfriemer > Pilser > Prarer > Regenhold > Regensburger > Reindel > Reiner > Ripp > Roder > Ruf > Ruff > Saile > Sauter > Schaufler > Scherer > Scherger > Schetter > Schirot > Schleicher > Schmid > Schneider > Schober > Schopf > Schört > Schraner > Schuler > Schwarz > Schweinler > Seitz > Sieber > Simmendinger > Speidel > Spitz > Stammler > Stappinski > Steeger > Steger > Stehle > Steimle > Steinheuser > Stengel > Stettmund > Steurer > Stotz > Sträßle > Streble > Strobel > Tückhen > Türckhen > Ulrich > Vitalowitz > Vogel > Volm > von Ow > Waidner > Wallishauser > Wannenmacher > Wegmann > Weiger > Werner > Wickle > Wiedel > Wieker > Wiest > Wild > Windlinger > Wolfer > Wolkenbaur > Zepfler > Zetschgi > Zettler > Ziegler > Zirn > Zoll > Zollen > Psssst! Schon vom neuen WEB.DE MultiMessenger gehört? > Der kann`s mit allen: > *http://www.produkte.web.de/messenger/?did=3123* [1] > [http://www.produkte.web.de/messenger/?did=3123] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com [2] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://www.produkte.web.de/messenger/?did=3123* > [2] mailto:BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Deutschlands größte Online-Videothek schenkt Ihnen 12.000 Videos!* *http://entertainment.web.de/de/entertainment/maxdome/index.html* [http://entertainment.web.de/de/entertainment/maxdome/index.html]

Dear Ann, please send me the names of the person and bithday or ....., where are you looking for. These so much pages, I can't send these all. Michael *Von:* "Ann Francesconi" <annf@usa2net.net> *Gesendet:* 06.01.09 14:24:46 *An:* baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com *Betreff:* Re: [BW] Familien in Hechingen - Hohenzollern Dear Michael, Can you send me the information on the following: Junele , Lacher, Pfister, Schmid, Schneider , Ulrich Thanks Ann Michael Wolf wrote: > Hello, > > I have information about following families from Hechingen, Hohenzollern. > > If you need information, please send a e-mail. > > kind regards. > > Michael > > Hechingen - Hohenzollern > > Name > Abele > Aichgasser > Alber > Bahr > Bailer > Bär > Barth > Bartholomä > Basso > Baur > Bausinger > Bayer > Bechtold > Beck > Berger > Berghofer (Perckhofer) > Beuter > Bieger > Birkle > Blumenstetter > Boll > Bosch > Breimesser > Brodrotti > Brucker > Bruckmaier > Buckenmaier > Bulach > Bürgen > Burkhard > Cammerer > Ciwinsky > Daiker > De Pay > Dettinger > Diebold > Dieboldt > Diengold > Dieringer > Dröscher > Eberle > Egert > Eggert > Egler > Eming > Faber > Fahlenschmid > Falkner > Fecker > Ferber > Feundrig > Fischer > Fixle > Freudemann > Frick > Fugler > Funk > Gaynus > Geiger > Gfrörer > Glockher > Grainer > Gransche > Grathwohl > Greißinger > Greyling > Gröber > Gsellen - Gsell > Güntner > Gunz > Haag > Hagßen > Hahn > Haimann > Hamden > Hanen > Hecht > Hehn > Hellstein > Hellstern > Henne > Hentsch > Herppen > Herri > Hipp > Hirlinger > Hirschauer > Höbel > Hochschild > Hofer > Höhnlin > Holzapfel > Hölzel > Horrer > Huber > Hummel > Hurrer > Jochum (Jochem) > Joos > Junele > Kaiser > Karch > Käßmodel > Kastenschmidt > Keck > Kezzner (Kessler) > Kimm > Kindler > Kipften > Kirner > Kleiner > Kleinmann > Klingler > Klotz > Knabich > Koch > Koderholden > Kofler > Kölle > Kömm > Kostanzer > Kreuttner > Kriechel > Kunanz > Lacher > Laib > Lämmle > Landolten > Langenegger > Langenstein > Lettich > Ling > Lintner > Locher > Lorch > Männel > Matter > Menz > Merkel > Metzger > Mezger > Moser > Mößmer > Müller > Nadler > Neher > Nerz > Neujahr > Niclaus > Oster > Österle > Ott > Öttinger > Pfister > Pflumm > Pfriemer > Pilser > Prarer > Regenhold > Regensburger > Reindel > Reiner > Ripp > Roder > Ruf > Ruff > Saile > Sauter > Schaufler > Scherer > Scherger > Schetter > Schirot > Schleicher > Schmid > Schneider > Schober > Schopf > Schört > Schraner > Schuler > Schwarz > Schweinler > Seitz > Sieber > Simmendinger > Speidel > Spitz > Stammler > Stappinski > Steeger > Steger > Stehle > Steimle > Steinheuser > Stengel > Stettmund > Steurer > Stotz > Sträßle > Streble > Strobel > Tückhen > Türckhen > Ulrich > Vitalowitz > Vogel > Volm > von Ow > Waidner > Wallishauser > Wannenmacher > Wegmann > Weiger > Werner > Wickle > Wiedel > Wieker > Wiest > Wild > Windlinger > Wolfer > Wolkenbaur > Zepfler > Zetschgi > Zettler > Ziegler > Zirn > Zoll > Zollen > > > > > Psssst! Schon vom neuen WEB.DE MultiMessenger gehört? > Der kann`s mit allen: *http://www.produkte.web.de/messenger/?did=3123* [http://www.produkte.web.de/messenger/?did=3123] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Sensationsangebot verlängert: WEB.DE FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL für nur 16,37 Euro/mtl.!* *http://dsl.web.de/?ac=OM.AD.AD008K15039B7069a* [http://dsl.web.de/?ac=OM.AD.AD008K15039B7069a]

In municipalities the Stadtverwaltung is for cities and the Gemeindeverwaltung for smaller towns. You can discover which is which at....... http://members.cox.net/hessen/telephones.htm The office that handles citizen's records is the Standesamt. Many towns in Germany switched from church to civil records after Napoleon turned the German system upside down. Others didn't switch until 1874-76. During the 1990s-early 2000's German genealogy anslaught, lots of local church archives were overwhelmed. Old records since then have, in many cases, been placed in central archives for a particular area or region. The Germans have developed quite a database since the early years of German genealogy and it gets better every day. Their awesome database is found at........ http://www.genealogienetz.de/ Here is a link that might be helpful BEFORE church archives: http://www.kinquest.com/degenealogy/researching.php :-) Don

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=pfeffernusse+recipe&aq=3&oq=pfeffer Pfeffernuesse Recipes! :-) Don

Angelika, I should be able to figure it out from the recipe.  thank you so much for going to the trouble. Norm ________________________________ From: Norm Woods <nhwoods@yahoo.com> To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 6:11:54 PM Subject: Re: [BW] Pfeffernuesse Angelika, My german is basically non existant, so english would be preferred. Thanks, Norm ________________________________ From: Angelika Dannenberg <Angelika.Dannenberg@web.de> To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 6:42:54 AM Subject: Re: [BW] Pfeffernuesse Hi Norm, can you read the recipe in german, or must i translate in english? Angelika *Von:* "Norm Woods" <nhwoods@yahoo.com> *Gesendet:* 23.12.08 05:35:37 *An:* BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com *Betreff:* [BW] Pfeffernuesse I know this is off topic, but considering the season, does anyone have a recipe for Pfeffernuesse cookies? My mother made them and I can't find her recipe. Merry Christmas to all Norm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message         Sensationsangebot verlängert: WEB.DE FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL für nur 16,37 Euro/mtl.!* *http://dsl.web.de/?ac=OM.AD.AD008K15039B7069a* [http://dsl.web.de/?ac=OM.AD.AD008K15039B7069a] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There are a few sites I have looked at, but am sure more available. The ones I have used are: www.ancestorsfromrussia.com www.angelfire.com/ks/gerrus/ www.feefhs.org/ If you google a search for Germans From Russia, you will probably find many more. Carole in Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dion Detterer" <diond@exemail.com.au> To: <BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:11 PM Subject: [BW] Detterer/Dederer, 17th/18th century > (Resending this because I don't think it went through yesterday.) > > Hi all, > > I've been researching my surname and lineage. The Detterers were Volga > Germans in Russia who trace back to Johann Adam Dederer/Detterer, > Christened in 1730 in Obergimpern in Heidelberg, Baden. His father's > name was Johann Esaias Dederer and his mother was Maria Christina. > > What I'm wondering is, is this a brick wall? I've found quite a few > other Dederer/Detterer names from that period and area (just via > FamilySearch.org), but no other mention of Esaias. > > What would be the approach to take from this point? > > Dion > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3741 (20090105) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > >

I have a Pfister and a Strobel, so I would also appreciate information. Elizabeth C Max Burgdorf wrote: > > > Any information relating to the PFISTER name will be greatly > appreciated. Thank you. > > Max Burgdorf pharmaxx@knology.net BODY { font-family:Arial, > Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; } > On Tue 01/06/09 4:04 AM , Michael Wolf S-M-Zak@web.de sent: > Hello, > I have information about following families from Hechingen, > Hohenzollern. > If you need information, please send a e-mail. > kind regards. > Michael > Hechingen - Hohenzollern > Name > Abele > Aichgasser > Alber > Bahr > Bailer > Bär > Barth > Bartholomä > Basso > Baur > Bausinger > Bayer > Bechtold > Beck > Berger > Berghofer (Perckhofer) > Beuter > Bieger > Birkle > Blumenstetter > Boll > Bosch > Breimesser > Brodrotti > Brucker > Bruckmaier > Buckenmaier > Bulach > Bürgen > Burkhard > Cammerer > Ciwinsky > Daiker > De Pay > Dettinger > Diebold > Dieboldt > Diengold > Dieringer > Dröscher > Eberle > Egert > Eggert > Egler > Eming > Faber > Fahlenschmid > Falkner > Fecker > Ferber > Feundrig > Fischer > Fixle > Freudemann > Frick > Fugler > Funk > Gaynus > Geiger > Gfrörer > Glockher > Grainer > Gransche > Grathwohl > Greißinger > Greyling > Gröber > Gsellen - Gsell > Güntner > Gunz > Haag > Hagßen > Hahn > Haimann > Hamden > Hanen > Hecht > Hehn > Hellstein > Hellstern > Henne > Hentsch > Herppen > Herri > Hipp > Hirlinger > Hirschauer > Höbel > Hochschild > Hofer > Höhnlin > Holzapfel > Hölzel > Horrer > Huber > Hummel > Hurrer > Jochum (Jochem) > Joos > Junele > Kaiser > Karch > Käßmodel > Kastenschmidt > Keck > Kezzner (Kessler) > Kimm > Kindler > Kipften > Kirner > Kleiner > Kleinmann > Klingler > Klotz > Knabich > Koch > Koderholden > Kofler > Kölle > Kömm > Kostanzer > Kreuttner > Kriechel > Kunanz > Lacher > Laib > Lämmle > Landolten > Langenegger > Langenstein > Lettich > Ling > Lintner > Locher > Lorch > Männel > Matter > Menz > Merkel > Metzger > Mezger > Moser > Mößmer > Müller > Nadler > Neher > Nerz > Neujahr > Niclaus > Oster > Österle > Ott > Öttinger > Pfister > Pflumm > Pfriemer > Pilser > Prarer > Regenhold > Regensburger > Reindel > Reiner > Ripp > Roder > Ruf > Ruff > Saile > Sauter > Schaufler > Scherer > Scherger > Schetter > Schirot > Schleicher > Schmid > Schneider > Schober > Schopf > Schört > Schraner > Schuler > Schwarz > Schweinler > Seitz > Sieber > Simmendinger > Speidel > Spitz > Stammler > Stappinski > Steeger > Steger > Stehle > Steimle > Steinheuser > Stengel > Stettmund > Steurer > Stotz > Sträßle > Streble > Strobel > Tückhen > Türckhen > Ulrich > Vitalowitz > Vogel > Volm > von Ow > Waidner > Wallishauser > Wannenmacher > Wegmann > Weiger > Werner > Wickle > Wiedel > Wieker > Wiest > Wild > Windlinger > Wolfer > Wolkenbaur > Zepfler > Zetschgi > Zettler > Ziegler > Zirn > Zoll > Zollen > Psssst! Schon vom neuen WEB.DE MultiMessenger gehört? > Der kann`s mit allen: > *http://www.produkte.web.de/messenger/?did=3123* [1] > [http://www.produkte.web.de/messenger/?did=3123] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com [2] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://www.produkte.web.de/messenger/?did=3123* > [2] mailto:BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marvin, you seem to have access to complete information on the Rastatt prisoners during the 1848 revolution in Baden. Are these lists accessible anywhere on the internet? I would be highly interested to find out about any prisoners by the name of Granacher. My family is from the Waldshut area and may well have been involved in the revolutionary activities in some way. Regards, René Granacher Von: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von Marvin Hoerig Gesendet: Montag, 5. Januar 2009 19:35 An: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Betreff: Re: [BW] Schlageter emigration Judy Eggers, There were 25 Schlageter/Schlagetter/Sahlageders held in Fort A of the Rastatt Prison during the 1848/49 Revolution. Unfortunately, they are from nearly that many different towns. It would have been nice to find most from the same town, giving you a good place to search for your Mathias. Information on all 25 is very limited - - there are even three that have no given names listed. There is one Mathä Schlageter (male) listed from Lienheim, Waldshut, Baden but there is no age given in his record. No occupation listed either but it says he was incarcerated in 1848 for "highly treasonous activities". Is it possible that your Mathias, (who named one of his sons Joseph) could have had a brother Joseph or perhaps his father was a Joseph. There are three Josef Schlageters listed and again, no ages for any of them. Do you have any other given names that I might check for you ? I find that the vast majority of the 32,000 prisoners were, (when ages were listed) in their 20 so that makes your Mathias a good candidate for a visit to the stockade. Nearly all these 25 Schlageters were from small towns fairly close to a line between Frieburg and Waldshut. I doubt that this is much help but it narrows down the search area in Baden. If you like, I can send you a list of the towns of residence listed for all these Schlageters. Marvin Hoerig [BW] Schlageter emigration > Marvin, > No I don't. All the documents I have from here in the US say he was > born in Baden. > > His wife, Fredericka Lichtenberger, whom he married in New York was > born in Karlsruhe. All her documents also say Baden but I have a copy > of her emigration papers from 1851. She came alone. > > Judy > On Jan 4, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Marvin Hoerig wrote: > >> Judy Eggers, >> >> Do you know the Baden birthplace of your Mathias Schlageter ? >> >> Marvin Hoerig ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Sitz der Gesellschaft / Corporate Headquarters: Deutsche Lufthansa Aktiengesellschaft, Koeln, Registereintragung / Registration: Amtsgericht Koeln HR B 2168 Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats / Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Dipl.-Ing. Dr.-Ing. E.h. Juergen Weber Vorstand / Executive Board: Wolfgang Mayrhuber (Vorsitzender / Chairman), Stephan Gemkow, Stefan Lauer

Hello, I have information about following families from Hechingen, Hohenzollern. If you need information, please send a e-mail. kind regards. Michael Hechingen - Hohenzollern Name Abele Aichgasser Alber Bahr Bailer Bär Barth Bartholomä Basso Baur Bausinger Bayer Bechtold Beck Berger Berghofer (Perckhofer) Beuter Bieger Birkle Blumenstetter Boll Bosch Breimesser Brodrotti Brucker Bruckmaier Buckenmaier Bulach Bürgen Burkhard Cammerer Ciwinsky Daiker De Pay Dettinger Diebold Dieboldt Diengold Dieringer Dröscher Eberle Egert Eggert Egler Eming Faber Fahlenschmid Falkner Fecker Ferber Feundrig Fischer Fixle Freudemann Frick Fugler Funk Gaynus Geiger Gfrörer Glockher Grainer Gransche Grathwohl Greißinger Greyling Gröber Gsellen - Gsell Güntner Gunz Haag Hagßen Hahn Haimann Hamden Hanen Hecht Hehn Hellstein Hellstern Henne Hentsch Herppen Herri Hipp Hirlinger Hirschauer Höbel Hochschild Hofer Höhnlin Holzapfel Hölzel Horrer Huber Hummel Hurrer Jochum (Jochem) Joos Junele Kaiser Karch Käßmodel Kastenschmidt Keck Kezzner (Kessler) Kimm Kindler Kipften Kirner Kleiner Kleinmann Klingler Klotz Knabich Koch Koderholden Kofler Kölle Kömm Kostanzer Kreuttner Kriechel Kunanz Lacher Laib Lämmle Landolten Langenegger Langenstein Lettich Ling Lintner Locher Lorch Männel Matter Menz Merkel Metzger Mezger Moser Mößmer Müller Nadler Neher Nerz Neujahr Niclaus Oster Österle Ott Öttinger Pfister Pflumm Pfriemer Pilser Prarer Regenhold Regensburger Reindel Reiner Ripp Roder Ruf Ruff Saile Sauter Schaufler Scherer Scherger Schetter Schirot Schleicher Schmid Schneider Schober Schopf Schört Schraner Schuler Schwarz Schweinler Seitz Sieber Simmendinger Speidel Spitz Stammler Stappinski Steeger Steger Stehle Steimle Steinheuser Stengel Stettmund Steurer Stotz Sträßle Streble Strobel Tückhen Türckhen Ulrich Vitalowitz Vogel Volm von Ow Waidner Wallishauser Wannenmacher Wegmann Weiger Werner Wickle Wiedel Wieker Wiest Wild Windlinger Wolfer Wolkenbaur Zepfler Zetschgi Zettler Ziegler Zirn Zoll Zollen Psssst! Schon vom neuen WEB.DE MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: *http://www.produkte.web.de/messenger/?did=3123* [http://www.produkte.web.de/messenger/?did=3123]

And ofcourse i can send you my information on the Raff side. Pales in comparison to all that you sent me however. |---------+--------------------------------------> | | "klbonnell" | | | <klbonnell@bellsouth.net> | | | Sent by: | | | baden-wurttemberg-bounces@| | | rootsweb.com | | | 01/05/2009 06:46 PM | | | Please respond to | | | baden-wurttemberg | |---------+--------------------------------------> >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | | | To| | <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> | | cc| | | | Subject| | Re: [BW] RAFF | | | | | | | | | | | | | >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| Pauline Karoline Ochsenwadel (born 1 April 1882 in Boll) was my 6th cousin 3 times removed. You can see her in my online database on the WorldConnect Project: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=kbonnell&id=I26893 0 If you would like to contact me offline, I would be happy to send you a gedcom of her ancestors. kathy bonnell kbonnell@byu.net -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat.Raff@Fluor.com Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:47 PM To: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com Subject: [BW] RAFF I am looking for information on the Raff family tree. My grandfather was Ludwig Karl Raff born June 18th, 1905 in Weilheim/ teck Germany. His parents were Ludwig raff born Feb 28, 1881 also in weilheim/ teck and Karoline Ochsenwadel born April 1, 1882 in Boll/ wurtttemberg. Ludwig was son of Ludwig Johann Raff who died Nov 12, 1909 Kirkheim/ wurttemberg married Luise Ursula Siegal. Ludwig Johann Raff was son of Johann Gottlob Raff and Marie Catharina Scheufele. Luise Ursula Siegal was daughter of Heinrich Conrad Siegal and Ursula Schwenk. I am looking for any information beyonds this, the information a have is minimal and my German is very lacking. Thank you for any and all help. ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1876 - Release Date: 1/5/2009 9:44 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1876 - Release Date: 1/5/2009 9:44 AM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. ------------------------------------------------------------

Any information relating to the PFISTER name will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Max Burgdorf pharmaxx@knology.net BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; } On Tue 01/06/09 4:04 AM , Michael Wolf S-M-Zak@web.de sent: Hello, I have information about following families from Hechingen, Hohenzollern. If you need information, please send a e-mail. kind regards. Michael Hechingen - Hohenzollern Name Abele Aichgasser Alber Bahr Bailer Bär Barth Bartholomä Basso Baur Bausinger Bayer Bechtold Beck Berger Berghofer (Perckhofer) Beuter Bieger Birkle Blumenstetter Boll Bosch Breimesser Brodrotti Brucker Bruckmaier Buckenmaier Bulach Bürgen Burkhard Cammerer Ciwinsky Daiker De Pay Dettinger Diebold Dieboldt Diengold Dieringer Dröscher Eberle Egert Eggert Egler Eming Faber Fahlenschmid Falkner Fecker Ferber Feundrig Fischer Fixle Freudemann Frick Fugler Funk Gaynus Geiger Gfrörer Glockher Grainer Gransche Grathwohl Greißinger Greyling Gröber Gsellen - Gsell Güntner Gunz Haag Hagßen Hahn Haimann Hamden Hanen Hecht Hehn Hellstein Hellstern Henne Hentsch Herppen Herri Hipp Hirlinger Hirschauer Höbel Hochschild Hofer Höhnlin Holzapfel Hölzel Horrer Huber Hummel Hurrer Jochum (Jochem) Joos Junele Kaiser Karch Käßmodel Kastenschmidt Keck Kezzner (Kessler) Kimm Kindler Kipften Kirner Kleiner Kleinmann Klingler Klotz Knabich Koch Koderholden Kofler Kölle Kömm Kostanzer Kreuttner Kriechel Kunanz Lacher Laib Lämmle Landolten Langenegger Langenstein Lettich Ling Lintner Locher Lorch Männel Matter Menz Merkel Metzger Mezger Moser Mößmer Müller Nadler Neher Nerz Neujahr Niclaus Oster Österle Ott Öttinger Pfister Pflumm Pfriemer Pilser Prarer Regenhold Regensburger Reindel Reiner Ripp Roder Ruf Ruff Saile Sauter Schaufler Scherer Scherger Schetter Schirot Schleicher Schmid Schneider Schober Schopf Schört Schraner Schuler Schwarz Schweinler Seitz Sieber Simmendinger Speidel Spitz Stammler Stappinski Steeger Steger Stehle Steimle Steinheuser Stengel Stettmund Steurer Stotz Sträßle Streble Strobel Tückhen Türckhen Ulrich Vitalowitz Vogel Volm von Ow Waidner Wallishauser Wannenmacher Wegmann Weiger Werner Wickle Wiedel Wieker Wiest Wild Windlinger Wolfer Wolkenbaur Zepfler Zetschgi Zettler Ziegler Zirn Zoll Zollen Psssst! Schon vom neuen WEB.DE MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: *http://www.produkte.web.de/messenger/?did=3123* [1] [http://www.produkte.web.de/messenger/?did=3123] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com [2] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Links: ------ [1] http://www.produkte.web.de/messenger/?did=3123* [2] mailto:BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com

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Hello Michael, I would appreciate anything you can share on Ulrich! Regards, Liz Shea I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. (Thomas Edison) http://www.youravon.com/ebedfordshea http://eshea.t35.com http://genealogy.eshea.us ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Wolf" <S-M-Zak@web.de> To: <BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:04 AM Subject: [BW] Familien in Hechingen - Hohenzollern Hello, I have information about following families from Hechingen, Hohenzollern. If you need information, please send a e-mail. kind regards. Michael Hechingen - Hohenzollern Name Abele Aichgasser Alber Bahr Bailer Bär Barth Bartholomä Basso Baur Bausinger Bayer Bechtold Beck Berger Berghofer (Perckhofer) Beuter Bieger Birkle Blumenstetter Boll Bosch Breimesser Brodrotti Brucker Bruckmaier Buckenmaier Bulach Bürgen Burkhard Cammerer Ciwinsky Daiker De Pay Dettinger Diebold Dieboldt Diengold Dieringer Dröscher Eberle Egert Eggert Egler Eming Faber Fahlenschmid Falkner Fecker Ferber Feundrig Fischer Fixle Freudemann Frick Fugler Funk Gaynus Geiger Gfrörer Glockher Grainer Gransche Grathwohl Greißinger Greyling Gröber Gsellen - Gsell Güntner Gunz Haag Hagßen Hahn Haimann Hamden Hanen Hecht Hehn Hellstein Hellstern Henne Hentsch Herppen Herri Hipp Hirlinger Hirschauer Höbel Hochschild Hofer Höhnlin Holzapfel Hölzel Horrer Huber Hummel Hurrer Jochum (Jochem) Joos Junele Kaiser Karch Käßmodel Kastenschmidt Keck Kezzner (Kessler) Kimm Kindler Kipften Kirner Kleiner Kleinmann Klingler Klotz Knabich Koch Koderholden Kofler Kölle Kömm Kostanzer Kreuttner Kriechel Kunanz Lacher Laib Lämmle Landolten Langenegger Langenstein Lettich Ling Lintner Locher Lorch Männel Matter Menz Merkel Metzger Mezger Moser Mößmer Müller Nadler Neher Nerz Neujahr Niclaus Oster Österle Ott Öttinger Pfister Pflumm Pfriemer Pilser Prarer Regenhold Regensburger Reindel Reiner Ripp Roder Ruf Ruff Saile Sauter Schaufler Scherer Scherger Schetter Schirot Schleicher Schmid Schneider Schober Schopf Schört Schraner Schuler Schwarz Schweinler Seitz Sieber Simmendinger Speidel Spitz Stammler Stappinski Steeger Steger Stehle Steimle Steinheuser Stengel Stettmund Steurer Stotz Sträßle Streble Strobel Tückhen Türckhen Ulrich Vitalowitz Vogel Volm von Ow Waidner Wallishauser Wannenmacher Wegmann Weiger Werner Wickle Wiedel Wieker Wiest Wild Windlinger Wolfer Wolkenbaur Zepfler Zetschgi Zettler Ziegler Zirn Zoll Zollen Psssst! Schon vom neuen WEB.DE MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: *http://www.produkte.web.de/messenger/?did=3123* [http://www.produkte.web.de/messenger/?did=3123] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 1/6/2009 7:56 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 1/6/2009 7:56 AM