Anyone on the BW list researching or familiar with an;y Hildebrands from mid 18th wurttemberg? Jack

Thanks so much. Kind words go a long way. If you have that "Rheinhold" in old script I'll be happy to take a look at it to check the spelling. No fee. :-) Don ----- Original Message ----- From: <rickh@thumpernet.com> To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [BW] Help please OOPS! Correcting the URL!!!! Don - Thanks for the referral - I very quickly logged on to it and saw that it was a sight which I want to peruse much more thoroughly. Including how to contact various offices over in Germany. My "brick wall" seems to have 3 names; Rheinhold [on the document I referred to in my plea], Reimus [enlistment papers in 1859 at Governor's Island, NY], and Raymund [on "Certificate of Matrimony" in New York City 1864 AND Gosheim's "Familian Register" of 1809]. Before I am convinced that the three names are all the same person I need to find out how and when he arrived. This is my great-grandfather. What a BRICK! Again many Thanks, Rick Hermle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Watson" <dwats@cox.net> To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [BW] Help please OOPS! Correcting the URL!!!! > ...............see good one below......... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don Watson" <dwats@cox.net> > To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 7:41 PM > Subject: Re: [BW] Help please > > > You may want to take a look at > > http://members.cox.net/hessen/archives.htm#Military > > The English "Raymond" translates to "Reimund". > > Rheinhold or Reinhold (ryanholdt) or Reinhard(t) is more closely related > to > Reynolds, Reginald. > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 1/15/2009 1:50:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, neysa@mchsi.com writes: Our Haussmann family records list Oberboihingen as the place from which Georg Adam Haussmann and family emigrated (application filed 1856). I have two photos which are both labeled only Haussmann; I assume they are George Adam and his wife Caroline, parents of Hermann, my many-great grandfather, since they apparently pre-date our photos of Hermann and his wife Katherine/Catherine Graf. If anyone thinks they can identify them I can attach the rather large files. If these are also your ancestors, I will share photos. Neysa in Cedar Falls, Iowa I will be no help on the photos but have lots of info on Haussmanns from Reudern, Tachenhausen and Oberboihingen backs to about 1450. Also Haussmanns from Zizishausen, Wolfschlugen and Nürtingen. All of these places are within 10 miles of each other. I do not have your Georg Adam as he is too recent. Kent Schach **************Inauguration '09: Get complete coverage from the nation's capital.(http://www.aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000027)

Our Haussmann family records list Oberboihingen as the place from which Georg Adam Haussmann and family emigrated (application filed 1856). I have two photos which are both labeled only Haussmann; I assume they are George Adam and his wife Caroline, parents of Hermann, my many-great grandfather, since they apparently pre-date our photos of Hermann and his wife Katherine/Catherine Graf. If anyone thinks they can identify them I can attach the rather large files. If these are also your ancestors, I will share photos. Neysa in Cedar Falls, Iowa

René Granacher I do not know of anything about the Rastatt prisoners on the web. That don't mean that there is nothing there, only that I have never had a need to look. I have been looking up names for people for several years and have answered more than a hundred requests. Not many of these 32,000 records are of much genealogical value but there are some that are a gold mine of information. Often, I can steer someone to a town or two where there surname shows up occasionally in the records. If you send me the surnames of interest to you, I will look them up for you. Marin Hoerig ----- Original Message ----- From: <rene.granacher@dlh.de> To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:47 AM Subject: Re: [BW] Schlageter emigration Marvin, you seem to have access to complete information on the Rastatt prisoners during the 1848 revolution in Baden. Are these lists accessible anywhere on the internet? I would be highly interested to find out about any prisoners by the name of Granacher. My family is from the Waldshut area and may well have been involved in the revolutionary activities in some way. Regards, Von: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von Marvin Hoerig Gesendet: Montag, 5. Januar 2009 19:35 An: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Betreff: Re: [BW] Schlageter emigration Judy Eggers, There were 25 Schlageter/Schlagetter/Sahlageders held in Fort A of the Rastatt Prison during the 1848/49 Revolution. Unfortunately, they are from nearly that many different towns. It would have been nice to find most from the same town, giving you a good place to search for your Mathias. Information on all 25 is very limited - - there are even three that have no given names listed. There is one Mathä Schlageter (male) listed from Lienheim, Waldshut, Baden but there is no age given in his record. No occupation listed either but it says he was incarcerated in 1848 for "highly treasonous activities". Is it possible that your Mathias, (who named one of his sons Joseph) could have had a brother Joseph or perhaps his father was a Joseph. There are three Josef Schlageters listed and again, no ages for any of them. Do you have any other given names that I might check for you ? I find that the vast majority of the 32,000 prisoners were, (when ages were listed) in their 20 so that makes your Mathias a good candidate for a visit to the stockade. Nearly all these 25 Schlageters were from small towns fairly close to a line between Frieburg and Waldshut. I doubt that this is much help but it narrows down the search area in Baden. If you like, I can send you a list of the towns of residence listed for all these Schlageters. Marvin Hoerig [BW] Schlageter emigration > Marvin, > No I don't. All the documents I have from here in the US say he was > born in Baden. > > His wife, Fredericka Lichtenberger, whom he married in New York was > born in Karlsruhe. All her documents also say Baden but I have a copy > of her emigration papers from 1851. She came alone. > > Judy > On Jan 4, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Marvin Hoerig wrote: > >> Judy Eggers, >> >> Do you know the Baden birthplace of your Mathias Schlageter ? >> >> Marvin Hoerig ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Sitz der Gesellschaft / Corporate Headquarters: Deutsche Lufthansa Aktiengesellschaft, Koeln, Registereintragung / Registration: Amtsgericht Koeln HR B 2168 Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats / Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Dipl.-Ing. Dr.-Ing. E.h. Juergen Weber Vorstand / Executive Board: Wolfgang Mayrhuber (Vorsitzender / Chairman), Stephan Gemkow, Stefan Lauer ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.9.7/1873 - Release Date: 1/3/2009 2:14 PM

Hi, Dave........ In the German system a collection of towns within a district (county) is under the administrative jurisdiction of what is normally a larger town or city, a "city-seat". The latter is not the county-seat, but is included in it. http://members.cox.net/hessen/telephones.htm .......may help you to identify the "city-seat" for these groups of towns. Additionally, it will help you to identify the Catholic Parishes in the area you are interested in. In some cases the latter archives may have been centralized. Perhaps someone on the list, living in the area can sort it out for you much faster. :-) Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Stroebel" <davidstroebel@yahoo.com> To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 8:42 AM Subject: [BW] Help Locating Catholic Parishes in Area around Sigmaringen

Hi Elizabeth, I checked the documents. I can't find Wilhelmina Strobel and George Pfister. What I found is: some of a Pfister familie emigrated to Cincinnati / Ohio. kind regards Michael *Von:* "Elizabeth Cunningham" <drybones@netreach.net> *Gesendet:* 07.01.09 22:10:21 *An:* baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com *Betreff:* Re: [BW] Familien in Hechingen - Hohenzollern My mother's aunt was Hannah Mingel (or Minkel) Pfister, born 1848, in Prussia. She was married to George Pfister, born 1846 in Wuerttemberg. They emigrated in 1867 to Phillipsburg, New Jersey. I am not sure the German localities are correct - they are copied from other documents and I think everyone was confused about German states at the time. Hannah's sister, my great-grandmother, married Johannes Fuehrer, from Hessen, and they came over later to join the Pfisters. (I am sure about the Hessen - they came from Oelshausen, according to a baptismal certificate). My father's mother was Wilhelmina Strobel, born 1864, 1867 or 1868, depending on the document you read. She emigrated in 1883. On the marriage record for her second marriage (to my grandfather) the pastor noted she was from Mohringen, in Wuerttemberg-Baden. She also spent some time in an orphanage in Switzerland. Her English was never good, and she died the year I was born, so I do not know much more than this. Thank you very much for any help you can give. Elizabeth C Michael Wolf wrote: > Dear Elizabeth, > > could you give me more details? > > There are so much papers and these are wrote in old german like sütterlin or current. > > Michael > > > *Von:* "Elizabeth Cunningham" <drybones@netreach.net> > *Gesendet:* 06.01.09 17:02:52 > *An:* baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > *Betreff:* Re: [BW] Familien in Hechingen - Hohenzollern > > > > I have a Pfister and a Strobel, so I would also appreciate information. > > Elizabeth C > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Psssst! Schon vom neuen WEB.DE MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: *http://www.produkte.web.de/messenger/?did=3123* [http://www.produkte.web.de/messenger/?did=3123]

yes, and polish and Scottish and Irish too. : ) |---------+--------------------------------------> | | zwonk@aol.com | | | Sent by: | | | baden-wurttemberg-bounces@| | | rootsweb.com | | | 01/08/2009 04:51 PM | | | Please respond to | | | baden-wurttemberg | |---------+--------------------------------------> >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | | | To| | baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com | | cc| | | | Subject| | Re: [BW] RAFF | | | | | | | | | | | | | >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| It's time you learned. -----Original Message----- From: Pat.Raff@Fluor.com To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 3:00 pm Subject: Re: [BW] RAFF Hello Don. Thanks you but I can not write or read German. Patrick |---------+--------------------------------------> | | "Don Watson" | | | <dwats@cox.net> | | | Sent by: | | | baden-wurttemberg-bounces@| | | rootsweb.com | | | 01/05/2009 06:44 PM | | | Please respond to | | | baden-wurttemberg | |---------+--------------------------------------> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | | | To| | <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> | | cc| | | | Subject| | Re: [BW] RAFF | | | | | | | | | | | | | >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| Yea Kent! ______________ Hi Pat I have ancesters from Weilheim an der Teck, ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. ------------------------------------------------------------

Hi everyone, I have narrowed-down the birth place of my great grandfather (Johann Josef Strobele) to a narrow 5-mile wide, 25-mile long corridor begining in Veringendorf, Baden-Wurttemberg, and south to Habsthal, located 15 miles south of Sigmaringen. What information do I need to know so I can order the films at my local FHC? Also, which local city archives covers this 25-mile long, 5-mile wide area besides the Sigmaringen city archives? I already asked them if they have my GGF's Catholic baptism records and they do not. Many thanks, Dave

Henry Rightmyer the 1744 immigrant was a member of the German Reformed church in Reading PA and the familty remained German Reformed until my grandfather Lewis moved th Chester, PA, in the 1880's, married an Episcopalian, and joined St. Paul's Episcopal Church, Chester. We've been Episcopalians since. The German Reformed Church in Reading became part of the Evangelical and Reformed Church and when that denomiation merged with the Congregational Christians to form the United Church of Christ it became First UCC Church. The Wikipedia article on Bruchsal says it was Catholic. The Woessingen church near Durlach is Reformed and that makes me think that Henry - and Felicitas Froebel his mother - were from that community. But I don't know if those records have been transcribed or copied and are available anywhere. Can one of our members help? Tom Rightmyer trightmy@juno.com Asheville, NC On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 08:41:36 EST ToySchach@aol.com writes: > > > > Am 09.01.2009 um 02:12 schrieb Thomas Rightmyer: > > > While English-speaking port authorities and others have > found > > lots of ways to spell my surname all the records I can find > written by > > family members spell it as I do. > > > > But I have no idea how it was spelled in Baden. My > immigrant > > ancestor's name has come down in the family as Henry Rightmyer. > He > > landed > > in Philadelphia in 1744 from Amsterdam and said he was from > > Unterwoessingen nr. Durlach. I have found Woessingen northeast > of > > Karlsruhe and Durlach, but have no idea how to proceed further. > > > > > > Try Unteröwisheim which is a city in the Bruchsal district. > > Kent > > > **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is > making > headlines. (http://news.aol.com?ncid=emlcntusnews00000002) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Tom Rightmyer trightmy@juno.com Asheville, NC ____________________________________________________________ Click here to find old friends, lovers or family. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw3ZEa0wKlkLiNOMefmxifqs5r1s0huMjMjGKPDJDI2xiiuTS/

I assume that that is the Spielbach which is North East of Schrozberg. I have done some research in the area but I have no info on the surname RATHGEBER. Are there any other surnames that you are interested in from that area? Ernie Kuemmerer In a message dated 1/14/2009 8:27:02 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, Billco60@aol.com writes: I am interested in exchanging information with anyone researching the RATHGEBER family of Spielbach and area. Thank you. William Cochran New Jersey, USA **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http: //www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)

Hi Marvin. Mathias and Fredericka had a son Carl and twins Mathias and Joseph, daughters Emma, Caroline, Anna Maria, and Rosina who died as an infant. Names on Fredericka's' side are Ludwig, Andreas, Catharina, Johan and Rosina. My guess is the names of their children were taken from Mathias side of the family. His death certificate says his father's name was Anton. This was completed by his daughter Caroline, my GGrandmother. Perhaps she really didn't know the name but is is one that appears no where else. In 1849, there is a Mathias Schlageter age 27 from Baden, who arrived in New Orleans aboard the CHARLEMAGNE, May 18, 1849. He was apparently traveling alone. This is a possibility. He must have traveled to New York because that is where all the family lived and where the records are. I also have naturalization papers from 1854 for a Mathias Schlageter,and In 1863, a 38 yo Mathias Schlageter served as a Pvt. in the 6th Regiment of the New York National Guard, Company B . Mustered in June 22, 1863 , mustered out July 22, 1863 with Company in New York City. I am assuming that it is our Mathias. The age (38) matches information on his death certificate. None of the documents collectively give, age birthplace and birthdate. Any assistance is appreciated. Thank you. Judy On Jan 5, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Marvin Hoerig wrote: > > Judy Eggers, > > There were 25 Schlageter/Schlagetter/Sahlageders held in Fort A of the > Rastatt Prison during the 1848/49 Revolution. Unfortunately, they > are from > nearly that many different towns. It would have been nice to find > most from > the same town, giving you a good place to search for your Mathias. > Information on all 25 is very limited - - there are even three that > have no > given names listed. > > > > There is one Mathä Schlageter (male) listed from Lienheim, Waldshut, > Baden > but there is no age given in his record. No occupation listed > either but it > says he was incarcerated in 1848 for "highly treasonous activities". > > > > Is it possible that your Mathias, (who named one of his sons Joseph) > could > have had a brother Joseph or perhaps his father was a Joseph. There > are > three Josef Schlageters listed and again, no ages for any of them. > Do you > have any other given names that I might check for you ? I find that > the > vast majority of the 32,000 prisoners were, (when ages were listed) > in their > 20 so that makes your Mathias a good candidate for a visit to the > stockade. > > > > Nearly all these 25 Schlageters were from small towns fairly close > to a line > between Frieburg and Waldshut. I doubt that this is much help but it > narrows down the search area in Baden. If you like, I can send you > a list > of the towns of residence listed for all these Schlageters. > > > > Marvin Hoerig > > > [BW] Schlageter emigration > > >> Marvin, >> No I don't. All the documents I have from here in the US say he was >> born in Baden. >> >> His wife, Fredericka Lichtenberger, whom he married in New York was >> born in Karlsruhe. All her documents also say Baden but I have a copy >> of her emigration papers from 1851. She came alone. >> >> Judy >> On Jan 4, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Marvin Hoerig wrote: >> >>> Judy Eggers, >>> >>> Do you know the Baden birthplace of your Mathias Schlageter ? >>> >>> Marvin Hoerig > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message J. Eggers Msgene@mac.com

Hi Dion, There are films of both Lutheran and Roman Catholic parishes in Obergimpern available via your local Family History Library. http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=localitysearch&columns=*,0,0 The above link should take you to the web page to look at the films. This is the place search page, in the FHL (www.familysearch.org) library catalog. If that's not clear, let me know and I'll walk you through it in more detail. Regards, Paul in Portland, Oregon ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------------------------------------------- From: "Dion Detterer" <diond@exemail.com.au> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 5:50 PM To: <BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com> Subject: [BW] Detterer/Dederer, 17th/18th century > Hi all, > > I've been researching my surname and lineage. The Detterers were Volga > Germans in Russia who trace back to Johann Adam Dederer/Detterer, > Christened in 1730 in Obergimpern in Heidelberg, Baden. His father's > name was Johann Esaias Dederer and his mother was Maria Christina. > > What I'm wondering is, is this a brick wall? I've found quite a few > other Dederer/Detterer names from that period and area (just via > FamilySearch.org), but no other mention of Esaias. > > What would be the approach to take from this point? > > Dion > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Don - Thanks for the referral - I very quickly logged on to it and saw that it was a sight which I want to peruse much more thoroughly. Including how to contact various offices over in Germany. My "brick wall" seems to have 3 names; Rheinhold [on the document I referred to in my plea], Reimus [enlistment papers in 1859 at Governor's Island, NY], and Raymund [on "Certificate of Matrimony" in New York City 1864 AND Gosheim's "Familian Register" of 1809]. Before I am convinced that the three names are all the same person I need to find out how and when he arrived. This is my great-grandfather. What a BRICK! Again many Thanks, Rick Hermle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Watson" <dwats@cox.net> To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [BW] Help please OOPS! Correcting the URL!!!! > ...............see good one below......... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don Watson" <dwats@cox.net> > To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 7:41 PM > Subject: Re: [BW] Help please > > > You may want to take a look at > > http://members.cox.net/hessen/archives.htm#Military > > The English "Raymond" translates to "Reimund". > > Rheinhold or Reinhold (ryanholdt) or Reinhard(t) is more closely related > to > Reynolds, Reginald. >

Unfortunately I can't help a bit. But thank you for sharing those wonderful portraits If you are able can you tell us about the breast shield one gentleman is wearing and another portrait of someone in uniform. Curious Max BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; } On Wed 01/14/09 10:40 AM , Donald Schwert donald.schwert@ndsu.edu sent: This is a followup to my posting of yesterday. The photographs of the Malsch and Hecht families of Staffort that I am seeking to identify are posted at: http://schwertfamily.net/malsch/ [1] If you can help, please reply to me at d_schwert@hotmail.com [2] . Thank you! Also, if anyone can help with the Ehrlers and Neumaiers of Weisweil and Heitersheim, I'd appreciate hearing from you. Regards, Donald Schwert Fargo, North Dakota, USA (-26 F today) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com [3] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Links: ------ [1] http://schwertfamily.net/malsch/ [2] mailto:d_schwert@hotmail.com [3] mailto:BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com

This is a followup to my posting of yesterday. The photographs of the Malsch and Hecht families of Staffort that I am seeking to identify are posted at: http://schwertfamily.net/malsch/ If you can help, please reply to me at d_schwert@hotmail.com . Thank you! Also, if anyone can help with the Ehrlers and Neumaiers of Weisweil and Heitersheim, I'd appreciate hearing from you. Regards, Donald Schwert Fargo, North Dakota, USA (-26 F today)

----- Original Message ----- From: "Lutz Cheryl" <cherylann402@yahoo.com> To: <baden-wurttemberg-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 12:03 AM Subject: Re: [BW] Help please Hermle I found this entry at one of the online data bases HERMLE RAG. 30 Hi Cheryl -Many many thanks I found the ship Rag (female - farmer) came over to USA on - it was the Rattler port of departure was Harve - dt of arrival 14 Sep 1854 (I think) Let me give you some more info about my brick wall: My cousin has the original marriage certificate of our great-grandfather and great-grandmother "Raymund Hermle & Margaretha Hoffmann". The marriage took place in New York City in 1864. The document does not give the name of a church. The "Certificate of Matrimony" also states that Raymund is 36 years of age and is a native of Gosheim. Working backwards from that, I have documentation that "Reimus Hermlo" enlisted in the Union Army at Governor's Island in 1859. The supporting documents are his discharge papers from the union army and the pensioner paperwork my great grandmother had to file to get living expenses after my g-grandfather disappeared. The Rheinhold comes from a document which my cousin' son has in his possession. He had a friend translate it. It appears to be a possible recommendation for some reason. Also I have the Gosheim "Family Register" from 1809 I did find a Raymund Hermle with the correct birth date but it does not say anything about Amerika as it does for other siblings. I'm just trying to resolve the Rheinhold, Reimus, Raymund situation and confirming passage to the USA. Again thank you so much, Rick Hermle

I found this entry at one of the online data bases HERMLE RAG. 30 1857You have to pay for this info but if this is your Reimund at least you have a date to start with . If you want the address of this site let me know it is in English.Cheryl --- On Tue, 1/13/09, Lutz Cheryl <cherylann402@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Lutz Cheryl <cherylann402@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [BW] Help please To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 8:09 PM I checked 3 different German emigration sites & no Rheinhold shows up. Did he perhaps have a different first name but went by Rheinhold?  Have you checked at Immigrant Ships Trancriber Guild. You can check all their lists by checking by surname. Cheryl --- On Tue, 1/13/09, rickh@thumpernet.com <rickh@thumpernet.com> wrote: From: rickh@thumpernet.com <rickh@thumpernet.com> Subject: [BW] Help please To: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 6:51 PM I am new to the list and am asking for help. Unfortunately, I speak and read very little German. I am looking for Rheinhold Hermle, born 31 Aug 1827, Blacksmith who served 6 years in the Army of BADEN-WURTTEMBERG. Height 5'8 1/2". Served 6 years in the regular army as a Rifleman. He was given a proper discharge with good conduct. However, he was obligated to serve in the Landwurt for an undetermined length of Time. Signed in Stuttgart on 1 Apr 1854 by Colonel of Regiment Meerdorf. I believe that at some point in time the above Rheinhold Hermle came to the United States of American and married Margaretha Hoffman. Margaretha bore two sons Raymond and Henry Hermle. Raymond married Matilda Gunther and had four children - one of which was my father Henry C Hermle. I know there is a large collection of Hermle families in Gosheim. Is Raymond and English translation of Rheinhold? I will appreciate any advice and/or suggestions on how to continue my search. Richard C Hermle rickh@thumpernet.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

...............see good one below......... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Watson" <dwats@cox.net> To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [BW] Help please You may want to take a look at http://members.cox.net/hessen/archives.htm#Military The English "Raymond" translates to "Reimund". Rheinhold or Reinhold (ryanholdt) or Reinhard(t) is more closely related to Reynolds, Reginald. It was a popular first name in the Middle Ages, bearing somewhat the signficance of godly or holy decision-making. I doubt that any of that carried over into the "New World." :-) Don ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You may want to take a look at http://members.cox.net/hessen/archive.htm#Military The English "Raymond" translates to "Reimund". Rheinhold or Reinhold (ryanholdt) or Reinhard(t) is more closely related to Reynolds, Reginald. It was a popular first name in the Middle Ages, bearing somewhat the signficance of godly or holy decision-making. I doubt that any of that carried over into the "New World." :-) Don