New information has led me to believe my ancestors spelled their last name differently than how my GGF was spelling his last name on many documents coming out of Sigmaringen, and that early "Stroebele" roots are in fact in Habstahl, just about 10 miles south of Sigmaringen. If you have any "Stroebele" surnames on any of your lists, please shoot me an email. Thanks, Dave Stroebel Freehold, NJ

Following up on the Ohio Union Army idea, a search of the Ohio Civil War Roster [an index] of the Ohio Genealogical Society uncovers one Henry Kalb who was in the 95th Ohio Infantry. A link from that search result will take you to the Civil War Soldiers and Sailors System (CWSS) [ www.civilwar.nps.gov/cwss/ ] where you will find Henry's general index record and a history of the 95th. Interestingly, they mustered in 19 Aug 1862 and mustered out Aug 1865. This would fit Carlisle's theory. > > Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:16:22 -0500 > From: "Carlisle Danzeisen's" <1833danzeisen@embarqmail.com> > Subject: Re: [BW] Henry Kalb born in Germany 1831 > To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <006001c9780e$eb9eadd0$c2dc0970$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I have no connection with KALB, but I do have a suggestion or two > that might > help you. > > You probably want to look for Ohio records for some of your answers. > Elizabeth and the first 5 of children (George, Henry, Elizabeth, > Conrad and > Catharine) were born in Ohio so chances are that Henry Kalb married > Elizabeth Wolf in Ohio. The marriage recording of Henry & > Elizabeth, or one > of the children's birth records may provide you additional > information. > > If Henry applied for naturalization Ohio, may be where he applied. > > It also looks like Henry immigrated in 1840 (according to the 1900 > census). > If this a correct year it means that he was about 9 years old when > he came > to America, so chances are that he either came to America with his > parents, > or as a servant. > > I noticed that there appears to be a four year gap between the birth > of two > children - Catharine and Anna; which is more years than between the > ages of > their other children. Based on age, Catharine would have been born > 1862/1863 and Anna would have been born about 1866/1867. During this > 1862/1863 and 1866/1867 time frame the family also moved from Ohio to > Illinois. Have you considered checking to see if Henry may have > joined an > Ohio Civil War unit and upon his return after the war that the > family moved > to Illinois? > > You may want to consider that Henry is an English version of the > German name > of Heinrich or Heimerich, amongst others. When you take this into > consideration this information might be something you are looking for: > Name: Heinrich Kalb > Arrival Date: 14 Oct 1840 > Age: 9 > Port of Arrival: New York > Port of Departure: Havre > Place of Origin: Deutschland > Ship: Ville de Lyon > > Good luck on your search. > > -----Original Message----- > From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Isabelle Newlin > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:11 AM > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BW] Henry Kalb born in Germany 1831 > > > I'm looking for the ancestors of Henry Kalb born September 4, 1831, in > Germany; died May 16, 1908, in Richland County, IL. Do know he is > listed on > both the 1870 census and the 1880 census for Richland County, IL. > The census > lists Henry's mother and father as being born in Germany. Also lists > his > wife's parents as being born in Germany. Do not know identity of any > of the > parents. He may have had a sister Margaret E. and maybe a brother > Michael. > Henry married Elizabeth Wolf and they had anywhere from 11-14 > children, one > of whom was also named Henry (DOB: 6/22/1857; DOD: 6/10/1938). > Others were > George, Conrad, Theodore, Clara, Minnie, Anna, Katherine, Emma, John, > Edward, Louise, and others. > > Any help would be appreciated. > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows LiveT: Keep your life in sync. > http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_0120 > 09 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:47:23 -0600 > From: "Marvin Hoerig" <mhoerig@wi.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [BW] Rastatt Prisoners > To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <90517C2F5D484B7EB607EBD98DDB2DFB@YOURB71A639E12> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Ren? Granacher > > Of all the spelling variations you have listed for Granacher, there > is only > one on the list of prisoners. It is one of the more incomplete > entries and > quite a disappointment. There is no given name, residence, or age. > It did > say that whoever he was, he was from Baden, a "milit?r soldat" and was > incarcerated in 1849. > > The remarks column stated: > > Korporal der 6. Kompanie des 1. Infanterie-Regiments, nach Angaben > vom 12. > M?rz 1850 von der Generalstaatskasse am 8. September 1849 [?] 60 > Gulden > L?hnung erhalten (237 / 2783: 12). > > As for the other surnames you have listed: > Baumgartner = more than 2 dozen listed > Boller = 5 listed > Bohler = many listed > Clauser = none listed > von Roth = none listed > Roth = too many listed > > I can check further if you like but will need given names. I didn't > even > look for Maier and the many variations of it because I have been there > before and without a given name, it's near impossible. > > Marvin Hoerig > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BADEN-WURTTEMBERG list administrator, send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BADEN-WURTTEMBERG mailing list, send an > email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 4, Issue 20 > ************************************************

Judy, you are right, I forgot to change the subject line - sorry! René Granacher Von: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von J. Eggers Gesendet: Freitag, 16. Januar 2009 18:02 An: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Betreff: Re: [BW] Schlageter emigration Hello, Will you all please change the subject when you address Marvin. Please do not use my subject -"Schlageter emigration". Thanks. Judy On Jan 16, 2009, at 8:45 AM, rene.granacher@dlh.de wrote: > Marvin, > > it would be very nice if you could have a loook at the records for > me! Most of all, I would be interested in anyone with the surname > Granacher, including the variations Gränacher (Graenacher), > Grönacher (Groenacher), Grünacher (Gruenacher). Other names I am > looking for during that period of time are: Baumgartner, Clauser, > von Roth, Boller. I also have numerous ancestors by the very common > name Maier. If there are any Maier/Mayer entries from either > Hohentengen or Herdern, that would also be very interesting. > > Thank you very much! > > René Granacher > > > > > Von: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com > ] Im Auftrag von Marvin Hoerig > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. Januar 2009 19:14 > An: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Betreff: Re: [BW] Schlageter emigration > > René Granacher > > I do not know of anything about the Rastatt prisoners on the web. > That > don't mean that there is nothing there, only that I have never had a > need to > look. > > I have been looking up names for people for several years and have > answered > more than a hundred requests. Not many of these 32,000 records are > of much > genealogical value but there are some that are a gold mine of > information. > Often, I can steer someone to a town or two where there surname > shows up > occasionally in the records. > > If you send me the surnames of interest to you, I will look them up > for you. > > Marin Hoerig > > > > > From: <rene.granacher@dlh.de> > To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:47 AM > Subject: Re: [BW] Schlageter emigration > > > Marvin, > > you seem to have access to complete information on the Rastatt > prisoners > during the 1848 revolution in Baden. Are these lists accessible > anywhere on > the internet? I would be highly interested to find out about any > prisoners > by the name of Granacher. My family is from the Waldshut area and > may well > have been involved in the revolutionary activities in some way. > > Regards, > > > > > Von: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von > Marvin Hoerig > Gesendet: Montag, 5. Januar 2009 19:35 > An: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Betreff: Re: [BW] Schlageter emigration > > > Judy Eggers, > > There were 25 Schlageter/Schlagetter/Sahlageders held in Fort A of the > Rastatt Prison during the 1848/49 Revolution. Unfortunately, they > are from > nearly that many different towns. It would have been nice to find > most from > the same town, giving you a good place to search for your Mathias. > Information on all 25 is very limited - - there are even three that > have no > given names listed. > > > > There is one Mathä Schlageter (male) listed from Lienheim, Waldshut, > Baden > but there is no age given in his record. No occupation listed > either but it > says he was incarcerated in 1848 for "highly treasonous activities". > > > > Is it possible that your Mathias, (who named one of his sons Joseph) > could > have had a brother Joseph or perhaps his father was a Joseph. There > are > three Josef Schlageters listed and again, no ages for any of them. > Do you > have any other given names that I might check for you ? I find that > the > vast majority of the 32,000 prisoners were, (when ages were listed) > in their > 20 so that makes your Mathias a good candidate for a visit to the > stockade. > > > > Nearly all these 25 Schlageters were from small towns fairly close > to a line > between Frieburg and Waldshut. I doubt that this is much help but it > narrows down the search area in Baden. If you like, I can send you > a list > of the towns of residence listed for all these Schlageters. > > > > Marvin Hoerig > > > [BW] Schlageter emigration > > >> Marvin, >> No I don't. All the documents I have from here in the US say he was >> born in Baden. >> >> His wife, Fredericka Lichtenberger, whom he married in New York was >> born in Karlsruhe. All her documents also say Baden but I have a copy >> of her emigration papers from 1851. She came alone. >> >> Judy >> On Jan 4, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Marvin Hoerig wrote: >> >>> Judy Eggers, >>> >>> Do you know the Baden birthplace of your Mathias Schlageter ? >>> >>> Marvin Hoerig > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Sitz der Gesellschaft / Corporate Headquarters: Deutsche Lufthansa > Aktiengesellschaft, Koeln, Registereintragung / Registration: > Amtsgericht > Koeln HR B 2168 > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats / Chairman of the Supervisory Board: > Dipl.-Ing. Dr.-Ing. E.h. 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Greetings -- This is my first post to this maillist. I have been working for many years on a line of "Beerhalter" which emmigrated to Philadelphia PA shortly before or around 1850. The names which interest me are Henry (my ancestor) and Henry's brothers, Charles and Moritz. I have naturaltization information on the two latter, but have never been able to get any for Henry. I know that Henry had a daughter born in Philadelphia in 1855, named Sophia, and that Henry married a woman by the name of Margrete Ege. Henry died in Spring Bay, ILL near Peoria in 1859. I know absolutely nothing about the parentage of the three brothers.except that the U.S. census states the brothers were from Wuerttemberg which they list for almost all immigrants. Any help would be appreciated. I have seen the namwe in the 1850 census spelled as Bierhaltre. George Reamer greamer@fastmail.fm

Hello Michael, I would appreciate anything you can share on "SCHOBER"! Thank you in advance. Regards, Chuck Schober ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Wolf" <S-M-Zak@web.de> To: <BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:04 AM Subject: [BW] Familien in Hechingen - Hohenzollern Hello, I have information about following families from Hechingen, Hohenzollern. If you need information, please send a e-mail. kind regards. Michael Hechingen - Hohenzollern Name . .. Schober . . **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)

To all members of the BW-List, some members of this BW-list recently complained about missing or delayed posts to this list, even the term "censorship!!!" was used by one of them. Please take note there is no censorship or something like that on this list. Fact is that Rootsweb is flooded by spam. In December the spam level has increased by a factor of ten compared to earlier months. Rootsweb is working therefore to adapt their spam filtering methods to this extreme situation. This may cause temporarily unwanted effects like those the listers are complaining about. We have recently observed that even our own post from the administration to the list were delayed by several days. The only thing we can do is to hope that Rootsweb will solve the problem soon. They say: "We know about that, we're working on it" Dieter -- Dieter Joos Ueberlingen / Bodensee, Germany Webmaster of RootsWeb's Baden-Wuerttemberg Mailing List

René Granacher Of all the spelling variations you have listed for Granacher, there is only one on the list of prisoners. It is one of the more incomplete entries and quite a disappointment. There is no given name, residence, or age. It did say that whoever he was, he was from Baden, a "militär soldat" and was incarcerated in 1849. The remarks column stated: Korporal der 6. Kompanie des 1. Infanterie-Regiments, nach Angaben vom 12. März 1850 von der Generalstaatskasse am 8. September 1849 [?] 60 Gulden Löhnung erhalten (237 / 2783: 12). As for the other surnames you have listed: Baumgartner = more than 2 dozen listed Boller = 5 listed Bohler = many listed Clauser = none listed von Roth = none listed Roth = too many listed I can check further if you like but will need given names. I didn't even look for Maier and the many variations of it because I have been there before and without a given name, it's near impossible. Marvin Hoerig

Marvin, it would be very nice if you could have a loook at the records for me! Most of all, I would be interested in anyone with the surname Granacher, including the variations Gränacher (Graenacher), Grönacher (Groenacher), Grünacher (Gruenacher). Other names I am looking for during that period of time are: Baumgartner, Clauser, von Roth, Boller. I also have numerous ancestors by the very common name Maier. If there are any Maier/Mayer entries from either Hohentengen or Herdern, that would also be very interesting. Thank you very much! René Granacher Von: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von Marvin Hoerig Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. Januar 2009 19:14 An: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Betreff: Re: [BW] Schlageter emigration René Granacher I do not know of anything about the Rastatt prisoners on the web. That don't mean that there is nothing there, only that I have never had a need to look. I have been looking up names for people for several years and have answered more than a hundred requests. Not many of these 32,000 records are of much genealogical value but there are some that are a gold mine of information. Often, I can steer someone to a town or two where there surname shows up occasionally in the records. If you send me the surnames of interest to you, I will look them up for you. Marin Hoerig From: <rene.granacher@dlh.de> To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:47 AM Subject: Re: [BW] Schlageter emigration Marvin, you seem to have access to complete information on the Rastatt prisoners during the 1848 revolution in Baden. Are these lists accessible anywhere on the internet? I would be highly interested to find out about any prisoners by the name of Granacher. My family is from the Waldshut area and may well have been involved in the revolutionary activities in some way. Regards, Von: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von Marvin Hoerig Gesendet: Montag, 5. Januar 2009 19:35 An: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Betreff: Re: [BW] Schlageter emigration Judy Eggers, There were 25 Schlageter/Schlagetter/Sahlageders held in Fort A of the Rastatt Prison during the 1848/49 Revolution. Unfortunately, they are from nearly that many different towns. It would have been nice to find most from the same town, giving you a good place to search for your Mathias. Information on all 25 is very limited - - there are even three that have no given names listed. There is one Mathä Schlageter (male) listed from Lienheim, Waldshut, Baden but there is no age given in his record. No occupation listed either but it says he was incarcerated in 1848 for "highly treasonous activities". Is it possible that your Mathias, (who named one of his sons Joseph) could have had a brother Joseph or perhaps his father was a Joseph. There are three Josef Schlageters listed and again, no ages for any of them. Do you have any other given names that I might check for you ? I find that the vast majority of the 32,000 prisoners were, (when ages were listed) in their 20 so that makes your Mathias a good candidate for a visit to the stockade. Nearly all these 25 Schlageters were from small towns fairly close to a line between Frieburg and Waldshut. I doubt that this is much help but it narrows down the search area in Baden. If you like, I can send you a list of the towns of residence listed for all these Schlageters. Marvin Hoerig [BW] Schlageter emigration > Marvin, > No I don't. All the documents I have from here in the US say he was > born in Baden. > > His wife, Fredericka Lichtenberger, whom he married in New York was > born in Karlsruhe. All her documents also say Baden but I have a copy > of her emigration papers from 1851. 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I have no connection with KALB, but I do have a suggestion or two that might help you. You probably want to look for Ohio records for some of your answers. Elizabeth and the first 5 of children (George, Henry, Elizabeth, Conrad and Catharine) were born in Ohio so chances are that Henry Kalb married Elizabeth Wolf in Ohio. The marriage recording of Henry & Elizabeth, or one of the children's birth records may provide you additional information. If Henry applied for naturalization Ohio, may be where he applied. It also looks like Henry immigrated in 1840 (according to the 1900 census). If this a correct year it means that he was about 9 years old when he came to America, so chances are that he either came to America with his parents, or as a servant. I noticed that there appears to be a four year gap between the birth of two children - Catharine and Anna; which is more years than between the ages of their other children. Based on age, Catharine would have been born 1862/1863 and Anna would have been born about 1866/1867. During this 1862/1863 and 1866/1867 time frame the family also moved from Ohio to Illinois. Have you considered checking to see if Henry may have joined an Ohio Civil War unit and upon his return after the war that the family moved to Illinois? You may want to consider that Henry is an English version of the German name of Heinrich or Heimerich, amongst others. When you take this into consideration this information might be something you are looking for: Name: Heinrich Kalb Arrival Date: 14 Oct 1840 Age: 9 Port of Arrival: New York Port of Departure: Havre Place of Origin: Deutschland Ship: Ville de Lyon Good luck on your search. -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Isabelle Newlin Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:11 AM To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Subject: [BW] Henry Kalb born in Germany 1831 I'm looking for the ancestors of Henry Kalb born September 4, 1831, in Germany; died May 16, 1908, in Richland County, IL. Do know he is listed on both the 1870 census and the 1880 census for Richland County, IL. The census lists Henry's mother and father as being born in Germany. Also lists his wife's parents as being born in Germany. Do not know identity of any of the parents. He may have had a sister Margaret E. and maybe a brother Michael. Henry married Elizabeth Wolf and they had anywhere from 11-14 children, one of whom was also named Henry (DOB: 6/22/1857; DOD: 6/10/1938). Others were George, Conrad, Theodore, Clara, Minnie, Anna, Katherine, Emma, John, Edward, Louise, and others. Any help would be appreciated. _________________________________________________________________ Windows LiveT: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_0120 09 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, Will you all please change the subject when you address Marvin. Please do not use my subject -"Schlageter emigration". Thanks. Judy On Jan 16, 2009, at 8:45 AM, rene.granacher@dlh.de wrote: > Marvin, > > it would be very nice if you could have a loook at the records for > me! Most of all, I would be interested in anyone with the surname > Granacher, including the variations Gränacher (Graenacher), > Grönacher (Groenacher), Grünacher (Gruenacher). Other names I am > looking for during that period of time are: Baumgartner, Clauser, > von Roth, Boller. I also have numerous ancestors by the very common > name Maier. If there are any Maier/Mayer entries from either > Hohentengen or Herdern, that would also be very interesting. > > Thank you very much! > > René Granacher > > > > > Von: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com > ] Im Auftrag von Marvin Hoerig > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. Januar 2009 19:14 > An: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Betreff: Re: [BW] Schlageter emigration > > René Granacher > > I do not know of anything about the Rastatt prisoners on the web. > That > don't mean that there is nothing there, only that I have never had a > need to > look. > > I have been looking up names for people for several years and have > answered > more than a hundred requests. Not many of these 32,000 records are > of much > genealogical value but there are some that are a gold mine of > information. > Often, I can steer someone to a town or two where there surname > shows up > occasionally in the records. > > If you send me the surnames of interest to you, I will look them up > for you. > > Marin Hoerig > > > > > From: <rene.granacher@dlh.de> > To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:47 AM > Subject: Re: [BW] Schlageter emigration > > > Marvin, > > you seem to have access to complete information on the Rastatt > prisoners > during the 1848 revolution in Baden. Are these lists accessible > anywhere on > the internet? I would be highly interested to find out about any > prisoners > by the name of Granacher. My family is from the Waldshut area and > may well > have been involved in the revolutionary activities in some way. > > Regards, > > > > > Von: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von > Marvin Hoerig > Gesendet: Montag, 5. Januar 2009 19:35 > An: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Betreff: Re: [BW] Schlageter emigration > > > Judy Eggers, > > There were 25 Schlageter/Schlagetter/Sahlageders held in Fort A of the > Rastatt Prison during the 1848/49 Revolution. Unfortunately, they > are from > nearly that many different towns. It would have been nice to find > most from > the same town, giving you a good place to search for your Mathias. > Information on all 25 is very limited - - there are even three that > have no > given names listed. > > > > There is one Mathä Schlageter (male) listed from Lienheim, Waldshut, > Baden > but there is no age given in his record. No occupation listed > either but it > says he was incarcerated in 1848 for "highly treasonous activities". > > > > Is it possible that your Mathias, (who named one of his sons Joseph) > could > have had a brother Joseph or perhaps his father was a Joseph. There > are > three Josef Schlageters listed and again, no ages for any of them. > Do you > have any other given names that I might check for you ? I find that > the > vast majority of the 32,000 prisoners were, (when ages were listed) > in their > 20 so that makes your Mathias a good candidate for a visit to the > stockade. > > > > Nearly all these 25 Schlageters were from small towns fairly close > to a line > between Frieburg and Waldshut. I doubt that this is much help but it > narrows down the search area in Baden. If you like, I can send you > a list > of the towns of residence listed for all these Schlageters. > > > > Marvin Hoerig > > > [BW] Schlageter emigration > > >> Marvin, >> No I don't. All the documents I have from here in the US say he was >> born in Baden. >> >> His wife, Fredericka Lichtenberger, whom he married in New York was >> born in Karlsruhe. All her documents also say Baden but I have a copy >> of her emigration papers from 1851. She came alone. >> >> Judy >> On Jan 4, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Marvin Hoerig wrote: >> >>> Judy Eggers, >>> >>> Do you know the Baden birthplace of your Mathias Schlageter ? >>> >>> Marvin Hoerig > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Sitz der Gesellschaft / Corporate Headquarters: Deutsche Lufthansa > Aktiengesellschaft, Koeln, Registereintragung / Registration: > Amtsgericht > Koeln HR B 2168 > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats / Chairman of the Supervisory Board: > Dipl.-Ing. Dr.-Ing. E.h. 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Hi Daniela, I will check my documenst. I will send you, what I found. best wishes Michael Hechingen- Germany *Von:* "Daniela OConnor" <danieoc@sbcglobal.net> *Gesendet:* 15.01.09 18:15:17 *An:* baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com *Betreff:* Re: [BW] Familien in Hechingen - Hohenzollern Hello Michael, Thank you for your offer of information. I have a 4GreatGrandmother, Regina Seitz, that I am still looking for. She landed in Austria-Hungary in the late 1780's, but I have no indication of her home in Germany. Thank you again. Daniela ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Deutschlands größte Online-Videothek schenkt Ihnen 12.000 Videos!* *http://entertainment.web.de/de/entertainment/maxdome/index.html* [http://entertainment.web.de/de/entertainment/maxdome/index.html]

I was wondering about that. I guess the same problem exists with other boards, namely Hannover, I never did see my post on line and I sent about 6 days ago, I was beginning toi think I need to change my brand of deoderant. BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; } On Fri 01/16/09 10:46 AM , "List Admin" djoos@dieter-joos.de sent: To all members of the BW-List, some members of this BW-list recently complained about missing or delayed posts to this list, even the term "censorship!!!" was used by one of them. Please take note there is no censorship or something like that on this list. Fact is that Rootsweb is flooded by spam. In December the spam level has increased by a factor of ten compared to earlier months. Rootsweb is working therefore to adapt their spam filtering methods to this extreme situation. This may cause temporarily unwanted effects like those the listers are complaining about. We have recently observed that even our own post from the administration to the list were delayed by several days. The only thing we can do is to hope that Rootsweb will solve the problem soon. They say: "We know about that, we're working on it" Dieter -- Dieter Joos Ueberlingen / Bodensee, Germany Webmaster of RootsWeb's Baden-Wuerttemberg Mailing List ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com [1] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Links: ------ [1] mailto:BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com

Thank you in advance, Michael.  Daniela ________________________________ From: Michael Wolf <S-M-Zak@web.de> To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 4:51:31 AM Subject: Re: [BW] Familien in Hechingen - Hohenzollern Hi Daniela, I will check my documenst. I will send you, what I found. best wishes Michael Hechingen- Germany *Von:* "Daniela OConnor" <danieoc@sbcglobal.net> *Gesendet:* 15.01.09 18:15:17 *An:* baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com *Betreff:* Re: [BW] Familien in Hechingen - Hohenzollern Hello Michael, Thank you for your offer of information. I have a 4GreatGrandmother, Regina Seitz, that I am still looking for. She landed in Austria-Hungary in the late 1780's, but I have no indication of her home in Germany. Thank you again. Daniela ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message         Deutschlands größte Online-Videothek schenkt Ihnen 12.000 Videos!* *http://entertainment.web.de/de/entertainment/maxdome/index.html* [http://entertainment.web.de/de/entertainment/maxdome/index.html] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here is more than you may want on the surname REINHOLD: The name REINHOLD - What we have here is an ancient Germanicname describing a smart person or one who gives wise counsel.The name goes back into pre-history and hundreds of newerversions have come out of it in both surnames and given names.It is something that father apparently liked to pass down to hisson and therefore the huge volume of names. Fred Rump or CompuData, Inc from the Internet 1995 >From German surnames REINHOLD = ruler of council. REYNOLD English: from a Germanic personal name composed of theelements 'ragin' counsel + 'wald' rule, which was firstintroduced to England by Scandinavian settlers in the Old Norseform 'Rognvaldr' [.. over o], and greatly reinforced after theConquest by the Norman forms of 'Reinald', 'Reynaud'. Thesurname is occasionally also borne by Jews, in which case itpresumably represents an Anglicization of one or morelike-sounding Jewish surnames. Vars.: Reynell, Rennell, Rennoll, Rennold; Renaud, Renaut. Cogns.: German: Rein(h)old (also Jewish, presumably adoptions of the German surname); Regenold, Rien(h)olt, Reinholdt, Re(i)nelt Low German: Reinwald(t), Reinwold. Patrs.: English: Reynolds, Reynalds, Rennolds, Renals, Rennels;Reynoldson. There are other variations of REYNOLD. , The variants of the surname Reinhold are Reinholt, Rhineholt,Reinelt, and Rynoll. In Old High German the name was RAGINWALD,meaning ruling by counsel the ending hold gracious due topopular etymology. The name is of Teutonic origin meaning "ofinvincible strength". Also, Reinholdt, Reinholt, Reinhole, Rinehold, Reinoel,Reinoehl, Rhinehold(t), Rheinhold, Rhynhold, Rainhold, Rineholdt Reinhold, a 2-syllable boy's name of Germanic origin, means:Mighty, decisive ruler. Reinhold's ethnic backgrounds include *German . ----- Original Message ----- From: <rickh@thumpernet.com> To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [BW] Help please OOPS! Correcting the URL!!!! > Don - Thanks for the referral - I very quickly logged on to it and saw > that > it was a sight which I want to peruse much more thoroughly. Including how > to contact various offices over in Germany. > > My "brick wall" seems to have 3 names; Rheinhold [on the document I > referred to in my plea], Reimus [enlistment papers in 1859 at Governor's > Island, NY], and Raymund [on "Certificate of Matrimony" in New York City > 1864 AND Gosheim's "Familian Register" of 1809]. Before I am convinced > that > the three names are all the same person I need to find out how and when he > arrived. This is my great-grandfather. What a BRICK! > > Again many Thanks, Rick Hermle > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don Watson" <dwats@cox.net> > To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 8:51 PM > Subject: Re: [BW] Help please OOPS! Correcting the URL!!!! > > >> ...............see good one below......... >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Don Watson" <dwats@cox.net> >> To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 7:41 PM >> Subject: Re: [BW] Help please >> >> >> You may want to take a look at >> >> http://members.cox.net/hessen/archives.htm#Military >> >> The English "Raymond" translates to "Reimund". >> >> Rheinhold or Reinhold (ryanholdt) or Reinhard(t) is more closely related >> to >> Reynolds, Reginald. >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We've been to Ueberlingen / Bodensee, Dieter. We have friends who live not far from there. From The Bodensee it is just a short drive to Vaduz. Turn left in Liechtenstein into Austria, right to Switzerland. Wonderful, wonderful! O, to be young again! :-) Don

I'm looking for the ancestors of Henry Kalb born September 4, 1831, in Germany; died May 16, 1908, in Richland County, IL. Do know he is listed on both the 1870 census and the 1880 census for Richland County, IL. The census lists Henry's mother and father as being born in Germany. Also lists his wife's parents as being born in Germany. Do not know identity of any of the parents. He may have had a sister Margaret E. and maybe a brother Michael. Henry married Elizabeth Wolf and they had anywhere from 11-14 children, one of whom was also named Henry (DOB: 6/22/1857; DOD: 6/10/1938). Others were George, Conrad, Theodore, Clara, Minnie, Anna, Katherine, Emma, John, Edward, Louise, and others. Any help would be appreciated. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_012009

Am searching for Robert Bauer (or Bower) who, according to family records, came to America circa 1832. At that time he had a wife and 4 children, all unidentified. He was born in the Viillage of Wormelinga, in Wurtemburg, Germany in the year 1796. Am also searching for parents of Henry Kalb who was born September 4, 1831, in Germany. He is alternatively listed as having been born in Bogard, Rieschweiler, and Bavaria, Germany. Do not know what year he came to this country nor any information about his parents, etc. Thanks for your help. Isabelle Newlin > From: mhoerig@wi.rr.com> To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:14:05 -0600> Subject: Re: [BW] Schlageter emigration> > René Granacher> > I do not know of anything about the Rastatt prisoners on the web. That > don't mean that there is nothing there, only that I have never had a need to > look.> > I have been looking up names for people for several years and have answered > more than a hundred requests. Not many of these 32,000 records are of much > genealogical value but there are some that are a gold mine of information. > Often, I can steer someone to a town or two where there surname shows up > occasionally in the records.> > If you send me the surnames of interest to you, I will look them up for you.> > Marin Hoerig> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <rene.granacher@dlh.de>> To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:47 AM> Subject: Re: [BW] Schlageter emigration> > > Marvin,> > you seem to have access to complete information on the Rastatt prisoners > during the 1848 revolution in Baden. Are these lists accessible anywhere on > the internet? I would be highly interested to find out about any prisoners > by the name of Granacher. My family is from the Waldshut area and may well > have been involved in the revolutionary activities in some way.> > Regards,> > > > > Von: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von Marvin Hoerig> Gesendet: Montag, 5. Januar 2009 19:35> An: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Betreff: Re: [BW] Schlageter emigration> > > Judy Eggers,> > There were 25 Schlageter/Schlagetter/Sahlageders held in Fort A of the> Rastatt Prison during the 1848/49 Revolution. Unfortunately, they are from> nearly that many different towns. It would have been nice to find most from> the same town, giving you a good place to search for your Mathias.> Information on all 25 is very limited - - there are even three that have no> given names listed.> > > > There is one Mathä Schlageter (male) listed from Lienheim, Waldshut, Baden> but there is no age given in his record. No occupation listed either but it> says he was incarcerated in 1848 for "highly treasonous activities".> > > > Is it possible that your Mathias, (who named one of his sons Joseph) could> have had a brother Joseph or perhaps his father was a Joseph. There are> three Josef Schlageters listed and again, no ages for any of them. Do you> have any other given names that I might check for you ? I find that the> vast majority of the 32,000 prisoners were, (when ages were listed) in their> 20 so that makes your Mathias a good candidate for a visit to the stockade.> > > > Nearly all these 25 Schlageters were from small towns fairly close to a line> between Frieburg and Waldshut. I doubt that this is much help but it> narrows down the search area in Baden. If you like, I can send you a list> of the towns of residence listed for all these Schlageters.> > > > Marvin Hoerig> > > [BW] Schlageter emigration> > > > Marvin,> > No I don't. All the documents I have from here in the US say he was> > born in Baden.> >> > His wife, Fredericka Lichtenberger, whom he married in New York was> > born in Karlsruhe. All her documents also say Baden but I have a copy> > of her emigration papers from 1851. She came alone.> >> > Judy> > On Jan 4, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Marvin Hoerig wrote:> >> >> Judy Eggers,> >>> >> Do you know the Baden birthplace of your Mathias Schlageter ?> >>> >> Marvin Hoerig> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > Sitz der Gesellschaft / Corporate Headquarters: Deutsche Lufthansa > Aktiengesellschaft, Koeln, Registereintragung / Registration: Amtsgericht > Koeln HR B 2168> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats / Chairman of the Supervisory Board: > Dipl.-Ing. Dr.-Ing. E.h. 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Thank you very much for taking a look. Some Pfisters may have gone to Cincinnati - the ones I had in mind went to Phillipsburg, NJ. Thanks again for looking. Elizabeth C Michael Wolf wrote: > Hi Elizabeth, > > I checked the documents. I can't find Wilhelmina Strobel and George Pfister. > > What I found is: some of a Pfister familie emigrated to Cincinnati / Ohio. > > kind regards > > Michael > > > *Von:* "Elizabeth Cunningham" <drybones@netreach.net> > *Gesendet:* 07.01.09 22:10:21 > *An:* baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > *Betreff:* Re: [BW] Familien in Hechingen - Hohenzollern > > > > My mother's aunt was Hannah Mingel (or Minkel) Pfister, born 1848, in > Prussia. She was married to George Pfister, born 1846 in Wuerttemberg. > They emigrated in 1867 to Phillipsburg, New Jersey. I am not sure the > German localities are correct - they are copied from other documents and > I think everyone was confused about German states at the time. Hannah's > sister, my great-grandmother, married Johannes Fuehrer, from Hessen, and > they came over later to join the Pfisters. (I am sure about the Hessen - > they came from Oelshausen, according to a baptismal certificate). > > My father's mother was Wilhelmina Strobel, born 1864, 1867 or 1868, > depending on the document you read. She emigrated in 1883. On the > marriage record for her second marriage (to my grandfather) the pastor > noted she was from Mohringen, in Wuerttemberg-Baden. She also spent > some time in an orphanage in Switzerland. Her English was never good, > and she died the year I was born, so I do not know much more than this. > > Thank you very much for any help you can give. > > Elizabeth C > > >

If you don't know the exact location of the parish, you may have to order films from several places until you find the right one. I took a quick look at the LDS library and they have Catholic records from a couple of the places you mention. You might want to try the IGI index to see if you can further pinpoint the place of origin. Good luck. Eric Schaal -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Stroebel Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 8:42 AM To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Subject: [BW] Help Locating Catholic Parishes in Area around Sigmaringen Hi everyone, I have narrowed-down the birth place of my great grandfather (Johann Josef Strobele) to a narrow 5-mile wide, 25-mile long corridor begining in Veringendorf, Baden-Wurttemberg, and south to Habsthal, located 15 miles south of Sigmaringen. What information do I need to know so I can order the films at my local FHC? Also, which local city archives covers this 25-mile long, 5-mile wide area besides the Sigmaringen city archives? I already asked them if they have my GGF's Catholic baptism records and they do not. Many thanks, Dave ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My HILLENBRAND grandfather came from Markelsheim, and when I did the German church record books at LDS on his family and ancestors back several generations, they were all spelled the same way exactly every time. Hillenbrand. I really was surprised and expected to see it spelled every which way. Dick Hillenbrand Upstate New York Genealogy www.unyg.com On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Jack McConnell <jacmac138@comcast.net>wrote: > Anyone on the BW list researching or familiar with an;y Hildebrands from > mid 18th wurttemberg? > Jack > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >