In a message dated 3/27/2009 3:13:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hohenzollern_strobele@yahoo.com writes: I use Google maps all the time, but this time I'm stumped. Has anyone ever heard of Inge Village in/near Veringenstadt, Baden-Wurttemberg? Thanks -Dave try Ingerkingen which is close to Veringenstadt Kent **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)

Hi, Ken, In 1937 Mr. Alfred Dochtermann founded the "Wappenarchiv Dochtermann" (coat of arms archive Dochtermann). In 1977 the name of this archive changed to "Wappenarchiv Stuttgart" (coat of arms archive Stuttgart). Mr. Dochtermann created about 10,000 to 20,000 coats of arms in his life. When Mr. Dochtermann died in the year 1986 his company was sold to a new owner Mr. Hans Winter and from now on was known as "Wappen-Gilde" (coat of arms guild). Both collections (say Dochtermann's as well as Winter's) are today actually owned by the company PRO HERALDICA Deutsche Forschungsgesellschaft für Heraldik und Genealogie mbH in Stuttgart. So my advice would be to contact that company directly and ask your questions there. You should be aware that they will probably charge you for their service. So be careful and ask for their possible charges immediately on first contact. Their homepage is http://www.pro-heraldica.de Near the bottom on the right you fill find the word "Kontakt" - click on it and a contact form pops up. Kind regards, Vera Nagel Message: 1 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:47:18 -0700 (PDT) From: kenneth oehrle <oehrle@sbcglobal.net> Subject: [BW] Coat of arms document To: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <153513.31641.qm@web83104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 ?Greetings; ? I received from my German cousin a copy of a document of the Oehrle Coat of Arms.? This document is identified as Quellennachwweis (Proof of Source) Wappen-Archiv Dochtermann and is dated Stuttgart, den? 17.7.1951.? I'm curious as to just what this means and how I can learn more about the history of this coat of arms.? The date of 1951 makes me wonder of this coat of arms was originated at that time. I have not been able to locate this coat of arms in the Heraldry of Baden-Wurttemberg,?Germany. ? Any help in resolving these questions would be much appreciated. ? Ken Oehrle oehrle@sbcglobal.net

It's not on the Michelin map of B-W, but Veringenstadt is. Prime location in the South Black Forest. Probably vacation property now. What time period are you looking for? These small hamlets and villages were absorbed by larger municipalities as Germany consolidated throughout the 19th century. You might find the name kept alive in street or place names of the remaining town. Enjoy your hunt. Eric Schaal -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Hohenzollern Strobele Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:08 PM To: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com Subject: [BW] Where is Inge Village in B-W? I use Google maps all the time, but this time I'm stumped. Has anyone ever heard of Inge Village in/near Veringenstadt, Baden-Wurttemberg? Thanks -Dave ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone have knowledge of any daily diaries, logs, etc that senior priests kept and passed on to incoming priests of parishes in Baden-Wurttemberg from 1850-1900? I first want to establish that the practice did exist. I'm not so much looking for church books for births, deaths, etc., I am looking for communication logs/diaries priests kept on a daily basis on the goings-on of church business. Thanks, -Dave

I use Google maps all the time, but this time I'm stumped. Has anyone ever heard of Inge Village in/near Veringenstadt, Baden-Wurttemberg? Thanks -Dave

I have Seitz in my line. HAven't come across a Regina yet but if I do I will let you know. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gay Eunson" <eunson5253@bigpond.com> To: <BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 1:45 AM Subject: [BW] Ammon family > Hi, > I am researching the Ammon family. My ancestor is John George Frederick > AMMON married to Rosina Barbara GEB (SEIZ) > Frederick was a locksmith in the town of Kirchberg. He handed the business > on to his son Julius Ammon who then passed the business on to his > son-in-law Paul Muhle. > If anyone thinks they may connect please contact me. > Looking forward to an answer, > Gay Eunson in Australia. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1975 - Release Date: 02/27/09 07:05:00

 Greetings;   I received from my German cousin a copy of a document of the Oehrle Coat of Arms.  This document is identified as Quellennachwweis (Proof of Source) Wappen-Archiv Dochtermann and is dated Stuttgart, den  17.7.1951.  I'm curious as to just what this means and how I can learn more about the history of this coat of arms.  The date of 1951 makes me wonder of this coat of arms was originated at that time. I have not been able to locate this coat of arms in the Heraldry of Baden-Wurttemberg, Germany.   Any help in resolving these questions would be much appreciated.   Ken Oehrle oehrle@sbcglobal.net

baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com writes: > .. >came across this phrase in the baptism record for my great3grandmother who was baptized in Forbach 13 December 1796. "nata fuit circa horam secundam matutinam." Am I correct in assuming that this means something like she "was born around two in >the morning?" Yes. Kathleen March Professor of Spanish Department of Modern Languages & Classics 201 Little Hall University of Maine Orono, ME 04469 207-581-2088

Your words are a literal translation of the Latin words. Eric Schaal -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Barttels Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:56 PM To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Subject: [BW] Latin translation help I came across this phrase in the baptism record for my great3grandmother who was baptized in Forbach 13 December 1796. "nata fuit circa horam secundam matutinam." Am I correct in assuming that this means something like she "was born around two in the morning?" Thanks much. Christopher Barttels Dayton, WA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I came across this phrase in the baptism record for my great3grandmother who was baptized in Forbach 13 December 1796. "nata fuit circa horam secundam matutinam." Am I correct in assuming that this means something like she "was born around two in the morning?" Thanks much. Christopher Barttels Dayton, WA

Here are the listing for the two Weisenbach/Weissenbach from the Map Guide to German Parish Registers: Grandduchy of Baden: Weisenbach im Murgentahl Weißenbach [Weissenbach] (which is in Schönwald. Parish register of Schönwald, includes Weißenbach, Oberort, Hölltal, Schwarzenbach, Prisen and Bühl. Baptisms, marriages, deaths, confirmations.) The film notes at the FHL are here: http://tiny.cc/9EBny<http://tiny.cc/9EBny> Christopher Barttels Dayton, WA

Diana, ShtetlSeeker shows there are 8 villages with names similar to Weisenback in Germany: Weisenbach/Weißenbach/Weissenbach. Only 2 are in Baden (Black Forest) and both are spelled Weisenbach. Only one is in the online LDS Family History Library catalog. These records are microfilmed and can be rented at your local LDS Family History Center. ================= Kirchenbuch, 1580-1966 Katholische Kirche Weisenbach (A. Rastatt) (Main Author) Parish register of Weisenbach and vicinity, Reichental, Au (Rastatt), Langenbrandt, Au im Murgtal. Baptisms, marriages, deaths, family book. ================= Note: The village records of the other one may also be microfilmed, but it will require a catalog search of each local village to see if one references Weisenbach. BTW, when making a query on a regional mail list it is expected that the information will be exclusively relating to that region. I have clipped your message to that information. At 02:03 AM 3/22/2009, you wrote: >From: "Diana Ford" <dianaford3@comcast.net> >Subject: [BW] Schaefers in Weisenback Baden Prussia >To: <BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com> > >Looking for my Schaefer family in Weissenback 1860s.? How do I look for >church records in Weisenback???? Not sure of spelling. > >My great uncle Carl William Peter Schaefer >was born 1843 in Saarburg Reg. Trier,Prussia and as a young man was a deputy >forest ranger in the Black Forest, (Prussia)Germany near Weisseenbach, >following his fathers footsteps. Carl took part in the Prussia -Austrian >Battle of Koniggratz of 1866 and was injured by a saber during the charge. >During the campaign he sustained a head wound. In 1868, Carls father sent >Carl and his brother August to America so they wouldn't have to fight in any >more wars. He moved from the Village of Weissenbach, Germany to America and >I believe he lived in Wisconsin before moving to San Francisco. He is on the >1870 and 1880 census in San Francisco. ____________________________________________________________ Click here to find the perfect picture with our powerful photo search features. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/BLSrjpYR2bozftIbn4FmjWiqXA5KmTI6r1SlKg0XC5wD64R0i1XvNHyDTsk/

Looking for my Schaefer family in Weissenback 1860s.  How do I look for church records in Weisenback???? Not sure of spelling. My great uncle Carl William Peter Schaefer was born 1843 in Saarburg Reg. Trier,Prussia and as a young man was a deputy forest ranger in the Black Forest, (Prussia)Germany near Weisseenbach, following his fathers footsteps. Carl took part in the Prussia -Austrian Battle of Koniggratz of 1866 and was injured by a saber during the charge. During the campaign he sustained a head wound. In 1868, Carls father sent Carl and his brother August to America so they wouldn't have to fight in any more wars. He moved from the Village of Weissenbach, Germany to America and I believe he lived in Wisconsin before moving to San Francisco. He is on the 1870 and 1880 census in San Francisco. Carl started one of the first German newspapers in San Francisco and he later went into acting. Carl was a well known German stage vetereran along with Ottilie Genee at Breuws Cafe at 70 3rd Street San Francisco Carl's wife Marie opened a costuming shop at 101 O'Farrell Street and Stockton Street in San Francisco, California and she supplied most of the costumes for the opera. Carl's nephew Louis Schafer with wife Mina lived above the costuming shop until the costuming business burned in the San Francisco earthquake in 1906. Louie and Mina had moved from Hamilton, Washington and married in Alameda County, California. Carl and Marie's daughter Louisa with husband William Fischer lived on Van Ness Street in San Francisco and fearing their home would be blasted to stop the fire after the earthquake, they buried all their silver and belongings. Fortunately it wasn't destroyed. Carl, Marie, Louie and Mina lived with Louisa and her husband William on Van Ness Street until they resettled in Oregon. So as to not fight in the war in Germany. Carl's brother Augustin (my great grandfather) was sent to America to teach German in Wisconsin. He met Dorothea Gable and converted to the Catholic faith in Milwaukee, Wisconsin where they were married. He taught in country schools and later became a principal in the Milwaukee school district and taught at a Business College. My aunt Marguerite Schafer Eminson said that her grandfather August taught school at Marquette University, Milwaukee, WI., German and Music. Around 1881-1895 August and Dorothea later moved to Union Hill, Minnesota. He taught grades one through eight from 1895 until his death in 1897. August had celebrated his Silver Jubilee about this time. He also was an organist and was active with a local lodge. August and Dorothea's son August was living in Hamilton, Washington at the time of Augusts death. Son August and his wife Cora returned to Union Hill where August finished up the school term for his father. At the end of the term his mother Dorothea with her other children Louis and William moved to Hamilton along with August and Dorothea. Daughter Amalia (Molly) was living in Eden Valley, Minnesota with her husband John Ruhland. My great grandfather August Schafer was born in Saarsburg Reg. Trier, Prussia June 07, 1849 and his father,? Schafer moved his family to Weissenbach, Germany where Augustin was an overseer in the Black Forest in Germany. Because of the many wars in Germany, Austria and France, the father decided to send seven of his sons to different countries to live. Carl had been injured in the Austrian War of 1865 and this is when Carls father made his decision to send his sons to other countries. His son August went to America to teach German in Milwaukee Wisconsin and his son Carl went to San Francisco to start a German newspaper. Other sons were sent to Oxford, England; Cambray, Cheltenham, England ; and Canada. There were several daughters who remained in Germany. I believe there were Schaefer families already living in Milwaukee when August arrived. August lived in Hales Corner for awhile and married Dorothea Gabel of Greenfield, WI Aug 23, 1974.

Would the name GEISELMANN be listed in the book? Thank you. Rita Broeker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry & Kay Holman" <klholman@bellsouth.net> To: <baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [BW] BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 4, Issue 67 > Mary, > > Are there any surnames of Holman, Heilman(n) or variants listed in this > book? Thanks. > > Larry Holman > > -----Original Message----- > From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > baden-wurttemberg-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 2:02 AM > To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com > Subject: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 4, Issue 67 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Emigration from Echterdingen and vicinity (Mary Ross) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:09:27 -0400 > From: Mary Ross <mross3@columbus.rr.com> > Subject: [BW] Emigration from Echterdingen and vicinity > To: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <p06240817c5e92cb9875f@[10.0.1.2]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" > > Dear list members, > > In the past, I have corresponded with several > people on the list about families from the > Echterdingen area. For those that might be > interested, the following book has just been > published: > > Brigitte Schweizer und G?nther Schweizer: Echterdinger Auswanderer in > Amerika > > (Leinfelden-Echterdingen 2009, 160 pages) > > It includes photos and letters pertaining to the > families STAEBLER, STIERLE, GOLLMAR, HOWALD and > others who emigrated to America as well as a 50 > page list of emigrants from the towns of > Echterdingen, Stetten, Hof, Weidach, Musberg, > Leinfelden, Oberaichen and Unteraichen. > > In addition to the names listed above, the following names are often > mentioned: > AUCH; BECK; BUEHL (BEAL); BURCKHARDT; GRAF; > GROSS; HAUSER; HEIMERDINGER; HERTFELDER, > KAERCHER; KRAEMER; LAUBENGAIER; RENZ; SCHLECHT; > STAIGER; STECKDAUB; STOLLSTEIMER; STROBEL; > WALTER; WIEDERODER; WILD; WOLF; ZAHN. > > The book is available for 18 Euro from: > Foerderkreise Stadtmuseum > Leinfelden-Echterdingen e. V. > Hauptstrasse 79 > 70771 Echterdingen > Germany > > > Best regards, > > Mary Ross > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Mary, Are there any surnames of Holman, Heilman(n) or variants listed in this book? Thanks. Larry Holman -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of baden-wurttemberg-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 2:02 AM To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Subject: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 4, Issue 67 Today's Topics: 1. Emigration from Echterdingen and vicinity (Mary Ross) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:09:27 -0400 From: Mary Ross <mross3@columbus.rr.com> Subject: [BW] Emigration from Echterdingen and vicinity To: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <p06240817c5e92cb9875f@[10.0.1.2]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Dear list members, In the past, I have corresponded with several people on the list about families from the Echterdingen area. For those that might be interested, the following book has just been published: Brigitte Schweizer und G?nther Schweizer: Echterdinger Auswanderer in Amerika (Leinfelden-Echterdingen 2009, 160 pages) It includes photos and letters pertaining to the families STAEBLER, STIERLE, GOLLMAR, HOWALD and others who emigrated to America as well as a 50 page list of emigrants from the towns of Echterdingen, Stetten, Hof, Weidach, Musberg, Leinfelden, Oberaichen and Unteraichen. In addition to the names listed above, the following names are often mentioned: AUCH; BECK; BUEHL (BEAL); BURCKHARDT; GRAF; GROSS; HAUSER; HEIMERDINGER; HERTFELDER, KAERCHER; KRAEMER; LAUBENGAIER; RENZ; SCHLECHT; STAIGER; STECKDAUB; STOLLSTEIMER; STROBEL; WALTER; WIEDERODER; WILD; WOLF; ZAHN. The book is available for 18 Euro from: Foerderkreise Stadtmuseum Leinfelden-Echterdingen e. V. Hauptstrasse 79 70771 Echterdingen Germany Best regards, Mary Ross

Dear list members, In the past, I have corresponded with several people on the list about families from the Echterdingen area. For those that might be interested, the following book has just been published: Brigitte Schweizer und Günther Schweizer: Echterdinger Auswanderer in Amerika (Leinfelden-Echterdingen 2009, 160 pages) It includes photos and letters pertaining to the families STAEBLER, STIERLE, GOLLMAR, HOWALD and others who emigrated to America as well as a 50 page list of emigrants from the towns of Echterdingen, Stetten, Hof, Weidach, Musberg, Leinfelden, Oberaichen and Unteraichen. In addition to the names listed above, the following names are often mentioned: AUCH; BECK; BUEHL (BEAL); BURCKHARDT; GRAF; GROSS; HAUSER; HEIMERDINGER; HERTFELDER, KAERCHER; KRAEMER; LAUBENGAIER; RENZ; SCHLECHT; STAIGER; STECKDAUB; STOLLSTEIMER; STROBEL; WALTER; WIEDERODER; WILD; WOLF; ZAHN. The book is available for 18 Euro from: Foerderkreise Stadtmuseum Leinfelden-Echterdingen e. V. Hauptstrasse 79 70771 Echterdingen Germany Best regards, Mary Ross

I am interested in the SCHWILK family who lived in Fellbach and Hohengehren. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009

You need to contact Joan Gunn, she has inputted a lot of Fellbach families into her database. Her database is on the WorldConnect Project: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=jgunn_fellbach&re cno=26460 kathy bonnell -----Original Message----- From: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ardell schwilk Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:14 PM To: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Subject: [BW] Schwilk I am interested in the SCHWILK family who lived in Fellbach and Hohengehren. _________________________________________________________________ HotmailR is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.18/2009 - Release Date: 03/19/09 19:03:00

Hi Cathy, the connection "Menold & Ben(t)z" I do not know. Do you have more data of Regina Menold? Here a link from my few information to the family "Ben(t)z": http://gw0.geneanet.org/index.php3?b=dradk&lang=de;m=N;v=Bentz;t=A The connection "Kölle & Seybold" I do not know, too. Johann Christian Seybold know I however several. Do you have more data of Johann Christian Seybold? Here a link from my few information to the family "Rösch": http://gw0.geneanet.org/index.php3?b=dradk&lang=de;m=N;v=R%C3%B6sch;t=A Mit freundlichen Grüßen Andreas Draeger -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:baden-wurttemberg-bounces@rootsweb.com]Im Auftrag von Cathy Claycamp Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. März 2009 04:11 An: baden-wurttemberg@rootsweb.com Betreff: Re: [BW] BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, Vol 4, Issue 62 Andreas,   I'm researching the Gerlach, Benz and Rösch families from Lauffen a. N.    Don't know if you have this information:  Regina Menold married Johann David Benz on 16 Jan 1715.    Katharina Dorthea Koelle (Kölle) married Johann Christian Seybold on 11 Sept 1836.  Kathraina is the niece of my ancester Johanna Regina Roesch (Rösch ) who married Christoph Friedrich Gerlach and Johann Gottfried Weigle.   I'm willing to share what I little have.   Cathy Message: 1 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:51:53 +0100 From: "Andreas Draeger" <andreas.draeger@gmx.de> Subject: [BW] Lauffen a.N. : Eberbach, Allinger, B?hner, Seybold, Amos, K?hner, Menold, Donner, Metzger, ?ttlin To: <BADEN-WURTTEMBERG@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <NLELLPCJKPKCENEKMKLPOEDGCCAA.andreas.draeger@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello * I look for contact to ancestor researchers with families from Lauffen a.N. Who still researches to the following families? a.. Eberbach b.. Allinger (Aldinger) c.. B?hner (B?hner) d.. Seybold (Seibold) e.. Amos (Ames) f.. K?hner (K?fner) g.. Menold h.. Donner i.. Metzger (Mezger) j.. ?ttlin Data incompletely starting from 1500 available. Perhaps we can exchange ourselves ... Mit freundlichen Gr??en Andreas Draeger Researching: Claycamp, Gerlach, Grindle, Magin, Mersinger, Reader, Singleton ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have found that my ancestor may have been from Seistadt in the Heystemm Circuit-Duchy of Wurttemberg. This would have been around 1750 and earlier. Does anyone have information on this area or the name of Hildebrand from there? Jack McConnell Monroe, Georgia