Good idea, Helen. [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Helen <[email protected]> To: Carla Heller <[email protected]>; baden-wurttemberg <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Mar 19, 2012 3:37 pm Subject: Re: [BW] From the List Co-Administrator: On-List Lookups Have Been Invited to CONTINUE Carla - I couldn't be happier to hear this news. I do believe you have done he genealogical community a great service. I thank you most sincerely. In the interest of trying to keep everyone as happy as possible, perhaps the est of us can do our part by keeping the subject line consistent and learly identifiable, and also, when we reply to someone, to snip the parts f the original email to state only the part we are addressing. If we all ork together, we can resolves issues without resorting to censuring or rivate emails. Many thanks to all who spoke up, and again, thanks to Carla for revising the olicy. It is very much appreciated. Helen ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Thank you very much, Carla. Appreciate your attention and willingness to work with this great group. [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Carla Heller <[email protected]> To: B-W Mailing List <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Mar 19, 2012 3:18 pm Subject: [BW] From the List Co-Administrator: On-List Lookups Have Been Invited to CONTINUE Dear Baden-Wuerttemberg List Members, In view of the overwhelming show of interest and support for Marvin Hoerig's ind and generous offer to do information look ups for our list subscribers, we ave invited him to continue to do so on-list at his discretion. Please note that we had several earlier requests sent privately to the list dministrator to discontinue the growing thread of these messages, as evidently ome list members did not seem to appreciate them. However, it is now very pparent that a vast majority of our subscribers are interested in benefitting rom this exchange of information, and Mr. Hoerig has graciously indicated in everal on-list posts his willingness to continue to perform the lookups and hare the results on-list. Unless Mr. Hoerig decides otherwise, he is entirely elcome to do so, and we would like to offer our gratitude to him for his indness and generosity. We always want the Baden-Wuerttemberg Mailing List to be an informative and eneficial forum for our subscribers who are seeking family history details and esearching their roots. Your kind understanding and friendly cooperation in his regard is deeply appreciated. Wishing you the best in family research outcomes using this and other resources, Carla HELLER, Los Angeles, California USA [email protected] ist Co-Administrator, ROOTSWEB'S Baden-Wuerttemberg Mailing List ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Norma, Bower does not appear on the list. Sorry. Marvin Hoerig in WI -------------------------------------------------- From: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:22 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [BW] BW] BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, RAAB Index Lookup Request > Is there any names of Bower in the RAAB Index in Baden Baden area? I have > Benedick (Benedict) Thomas and Joseph in years 1780-1835. > Norma Bower Beil [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you in advance - Are there any Zurn, Zuern, Zorn (s) on the RAAB list? Very best regards, Jim Zurn This message and any attached documents contain information from QLogic Corporation or its wholly-owned subsidiaries that may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not read, copy, distribute, or use this information. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message.

Carla - I couldn't be happier to hear this news. I do believe you have done the genealogical community a great service. I thank you most sincerely. In the interest of trying to keep everyone as happy as possible, perhaps the rest of us can do our part by keeping the subject line consistent and clearly identifiable, and also, when we reply to someone, to snip the parts of the original email to state only the part we are addressing. If we all work together, we can resolves issues without resorting to censuring or private emails. Many thanks to all who spoke up, and again, thanks to Carla for revising the policy. It is very much appreciated. Helen

To All, Go to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinsheim I found many locations by searching on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki Joe Gosse

To All: Go to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinsheim I have found many loactions by searcing on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki Joe Gosse

Thank you so much Jon, I'll do some searching on these and see what I come up with. Thanks for the offer to provide more info. James Schafer SETexas, USA ________________________________ From: jonbar <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, March 19, 2012 2:40:08 PM Subject: [BW] Schaefer Hello James, I have Schaefer entries for - Philipp Anton from Steinsfurth deserted from army Martin from Marlon deserted from army Agnes Christoph Ernst Franz Joseph from Ketsch born 1824 Friedrich Gustav from Kuppenheim born 1827 Johann Ludwig Joseph (4 entries) Karolina Klemens from Muggensturm born 1824 Mathias Nepomuk and family emigrated 1847 Simon from Kuppenheim born 1824 Valentin from Iffezheim born 1827 Schaefer is unfortunately fairly common. Most were wanted or went bankrupt. I can send you more information if any are of interest. Jon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Is there anyone out there with the surname KLOE in their tree? Danke, Donald Kloe

Thank you so much for volunteering to look up some names in the index. I am a descendant of two German immigrants. They came to the USA in the mid-1850s. I did not know about this index before but would be very interested if they appear in the index. I have listed a father, his 3 sons, and 2 son-in-laws below. Their last name is spelled different ways. It could be Thraen, Thren, or even Thrain. Joseph Thraen b. 1795 Christopher John Thraen - b 1823 Johan Thraen b - 1826 Francis Thraen - b 1829 Michael Francis Germann - b in the 1830s most likely Valentin Kuebler not sure of birth day but in the 1830s most likely if not 1840s Thank you once again for your generosity! Jim

I would like to send a message to those that were disturbed by the 'excessive' posts regarding the RAAB index. You may not have any particular interest in the names that are being posted, and find it annoying to have your email inbox overflowing with posts. But someday you might discover a new name in your family history and one way to look for info on a new name is to go to archives and punch in a search. All of the matches from the search requests that have been submitted thus far will show up in the results, and you will not only have the info Marvin found, but a link to the person who requested it. With all the requests being submitted privately, the very name you might be seeking will never show up. A lost opportunity for us all. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marvin Hoerig" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 10:18 AM Subject: [BW] RAAB Index > > > Hello List, > > I have been requested to take the prisoner look-ups off list. Apparently, > we have offended some people by cluttering the list with this ongoing > thread. In the past I received requests for look-ups on both the list and > my private email. This time, I neglected to include my private email in > offering to do look-ups. My bad - - I apologize. > > I think the BW list is one of the finest lists I have seen and would not > want > to offend anyone; least of all our administrators who do such a fine job. > Unfortunately, I thought that getting surnames out in the open would > afford > more opportunities to connect with long lost relatives. Perhaps, even > knock > down a brick wall or two and find that elusive, "Place of Birth" for an > ancestor. > We will loose those opportunities with all our surnames hidden away in > private email boxes. That's sad ! > > So, in the future, I will continue to do look-ups for anyone that sends me > a > surname, BUT, only if they are sent to my private email. I will not > respond > to any requests for look-ups sent to the BW list, either past , present, > or > future. If > I haven't answered your request as yet, please re-send it again to: > > [email protected] > > As before, the best requests have a single surname with several spelling > variations, a given name, and any other information that may make the > search > easier. > > To the list administrators; if you find that the BW list is falling > asleep, > let me know and I'll be glad to liven it up again. > > To the complainers; I apologize to you but suggest you invest in a delete > key. > > Marvin Hoerig > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is there any names of Bower in the RAAB Index in Baden Baden area? I have Benedick (Benedict) Thomas and Joseph in years 1780-1835. Norma Bower Beil [email protected]

I totally agree that it is appropriate to keep these RAAB Index requests on list. Perhaps if people would begin a completely new request, rather than merely replying, thus avoiding long strings of previous messages in the thread/digest? Just a thought... ~Carol ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Carol Hornung - Michigan, USA [email protected] Researching HORNUNG (Lindemann, Hendel, Eichman), BENDER (Herzel, Merkel, Kindler), MANGES (Zuefle, Mertz, Scheuerle, Steffenhagen, Denz, Bommer, Goebel, Heil, Wagoner), and FREDERICKS (Mund, Spaulding) primarily in Germany and Western New York ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I am very disappointed that these searches will no longer be available to those of us who just throughly enjoy reading all requests. I have learned a great deal about my families lives even without finding all the names I want. Thank you to Marvin for all the generous help. Betsy

No, you are not confused. This is helpful to everybody to know this type of info is available. Carole in Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ellen Schmand" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [BW] RAAB Index > What a shame. I cannot believe this would offend anyone who is looking > for > ancestors. I gain information on all sorts of items, even if they are not > directly related to my research. Isn't this or other types of threads > what > the lists are all about? Or am I confused...... > Ellen > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marvin Hoerig > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 7:19 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [BW] RAAB Index > > > > Hello List, > > I have been requested to take the prisoner look-ups off list. Apparently, > we have offended some people by cluttering the list with this ongoing > thread. In the past I received requests for look-ups on both the list and > my private email. This time, I neglected to include my private email in > offering to do look-ups. My bad - - I apologize. > > I think the BW list is one of the finest lists I have seen and would not > want to offend anyone; least of all our administrators who do such a fine > job. > Unfortunately, I thought that getting surnames out in the open would > afford > more opportunities to connect with long lost relatives. Perhaps, even > knock > down a brick wall or two and find that elusive, "Place of Birth" for an > ancestor. > We will loose those opportunities with all our surnames hidden away in > private email boxes. That's sad ! > > So, in the future, I will continue to do look-ups for anyone that sends me > a > surname, BUT, only if they are sent to my private email. I will not > respond > to any requests for look-ups sent to the BW list, either past , present, > or > future. If I haven't answered your request as yet, please re-send it > again > to: > > [email protected] > > As before, the best requests have a single surname with several spelling > variations, a given name, and any other information that may make the > search > easier. > > To the list administrators; if you find that the BW list is falling > asleep, > let me know and I'll be glad to liven it up again. > > To the complainers; I apologize to you but suggest you invest in a delete > key. > > Marvin Hoerig > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you so much for responding so positively to the many requests. We all do appreciate your willingness to help. James Schafer SETexas, USA

Thank you! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 12:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [BW] Location Searches To All, Go to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinsheim I found many locations by searching on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki Joe Gosse ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Baden-Wuerttemberg List Members, In view of the overwhelming show of interest and support for Marvin Hoerig's kind and generous offer to do information look ups for our list subscribers, we have invited him to continue to do so on-list at his discretion. Please note that we had several earlier requests sent privately to the list administrator to discontinue the growing thread of these messages, as evidently some list members did not seem to appreciate them. However, it is now very apparent that a vast majority of our subscribers are interested in benefitting from this exchange of information, and Mr. Hoerig has graciously indicated in several on-list posts his willingness to continue to perform the lookups and share the results on-list. Unless Mr. Hoerig decides otherwise, he is entirely welcome to do so, and we would like to offer our gratitude to him for his kindness and generosity. We always want the Baden-Wuerttemberg Mailing List to be an informative and beneficial forum for our subscribers who are seeking family history details and researching their roots. Your kind understanding and friendly cooperation in this regard is deeply appreciated. Wishing you the best in family research outcomes using this and other resources, Carla HELLER, Los Angeles, California USA [email protected] List Co-Administrator, ROOTSWEB'S Baden-Wuerttemberg Mailing List

That is the shame of it Marvin, many of us are losing a great opportunity and it isn't how it should be. There has to be a better way, the complainers have other ways to avoid so many posts if they don't want them, I was having a great time hunting clues, though none of the surnames are mine, there could a reference to one of mine. [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Marvin Hoerig <[email protected]> To: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Mar 19, 2012 11:44 am Subject: Re: [BW] Fw: RAAB Index James, I can handle the deluge as long as folks are patient with me. Some of our ellow listers complained to the administrators and I was asked to cease the ook-ups on the BW list and go private. I am saddened but I will comply. his is still one of the best maintained lists on the web. I don't see this ill make it a better but then, who am I - - - ? I really don't know why anyone would object to seeing all kinds of surnames isted. It seems to me that hiding them in private email boxes is terribly ad. Opportunities to find information will be lost. Only two people will ain from taking these look-ups off list; the person making the request and yself. Marvin Hoerig -------------------------------------------------- rom: "BroJames" <[email protected]> ent: Monday, March 19, 2012 8:44 AM o: <[email protected]> ubject: [BW] Fw: RAAB Index > Thanks Marvin, is your decision because there are too many listed? Just curious. Thanks again for all your help to the members of the list. James Schafer SETexas, USA ________________________________ From: Marvin Hoerig <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, March 18, 2012 10:33:07 PM Subject: Re: [BW] RAAB Index James, That would be a chore I'd rather not tackle. Marvin Hoerig in WI -------------------------------------------------- From: "BroJames" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 2:39 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BW] RAAB Index > Marvin, > > How would I go about getting a list of the Schäfer's you mentioned. I'm > interested in doing follow up on any/all of them > > Thanks again, > > James Schafer > SETexas USA > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Marvin Hoerig <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sat, March 17, 2012 9:34:31 PM > Subject: Re: [BW] RAAB Index > > James, > > The only spelling I found from your list was Schäfer but there was no > Richard. Sorry > > Marvin Hoerig in WI > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "BroJames" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 2:00 PM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [BW] RAAB Index > >> Marvin, thanks for your generous offer. I have been searching for ANY >> information on my Great-Grandfather, but have found nothing beyond his >> immigration to the USA in 1867. >> >> Although he would have been too young, I think, he was born in 1841 or >> 1844 >> (conflicting dates), perhaps his father would have been involved in the >> revolution. I only have my GGF's given name, but no information on his >> father. >> >> Surname: >> Schaefer >> Schafer >> Shaefer >> Shafer >> >> For what it's worth my GGF given name was: Richard >> >> I've been down dead-ends before and this may be another, but I hold out >> hope. >> Thank you again. >> >> James Schafer >> SETexas, USA >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Marvin Hoerig <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Sat, March 17, 2012 9:57:00 AM >> Subject: [BW] RAAB Index >> >> Peter et al, >> >> Heinrich Raab compiled a list of prisoners that were held at the prison >> at >> Rastatt, Baden - Fort A - during the Baden Revolution in 1848 and 1849. >> There are 38,431 persons listed. Some records show nearly no >> information >> about the prisoner - last name only, sex, and nationality, which is very >> disappointing. Others records are treasure trove of genealogical >> information that may even include a detailed biography of the prisoner. >> Most records fall between these two extremes. >> >> I have a copy of Raab's list and have been doing look-ups for people for >> years. In the hundreds of look-ups I've done, there have been some very >> rewarding discoveries, where some one learned something about and >> ancestor >> that tore down a brick wall for them. These finds are my reward. >> >> Here are a few facts about these records: >> >> More than 1/2 the prisoners were from Baden >> Country of origin is usually listed >> Listed residences are not necessarily birth places >> Few records show a birth place >> Few records show an age >> Even fewer records show a birth date >> Spelling of names is often different than expected >> The majority of prisoners were male, but not all >> The majority were German, but not all >> Most were between 18 and 50 years old, but not all >> Year of incarceration is almost always listed >> Membership in the Revolutionary Army or Militia may be noted >> Marital status is seldom noted >> >> >> If some records show little useful information, it should be kept in >> mind >> that the information was, no doubt, gathered from a single source - - >> the >> prisoner himself. This source may have been less than cooperative with >> the >> interrogator when facing a visit to Fort A. >> >> I will do look-ups for anyone that thinks their ancestor might be on >> this >> list. I ask only that you give me only one surname per request. If the >> surname is a common name (Schmidt, Mueller, Meyer), I will need a given >> name >> as well and any other information you have on the person. If you have >> several spelling variations, include them also. The more information >> you >> can furnish, the easier my job will be. >> >> There are no guarantees of success but, who knows, we may strike it rich >> or >> at least uncover an important clue to an ancestor's past. >> >> Marvin Hoerig >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Peter Elias" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 10:34 PM >> To: <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [BW] RAAB Index >> >>> http://www.amazon.com/Heinrich-Raab/e/B001K75GL0 >>> >>> Peter Elias >>> >>> On 2012.03.16, at 11:20 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>> >>>> Does anyone know what "Rabb's Index" is? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> Peter Elias >>> ************ >>> >>> http://petereliasmd.com >>> http://www.pheski.smugmug.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message