Marvin, Are there any Christmanns on the list? Carole

I have Müllers I'm my family line coming from Rotenfels (now Gaggenau), county of Rastatt, Baden. -Stuart Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 15:43:55 -0400 From: Bill Mueller <[email protected]> Subject: [BW] Valentin Mueller To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have trying to find out where in Baden, Germany my gGrandfather, Valentin Mueller was born. He was born Jan. 1835, he left Germany for la Harve, France around 1855 and came to the United States through New Orleans, La. He arrived in Jan. 1857. He made his way to St Louis, Mo. He settled there, married Henreitta Gihr, they had seven children, he had a dairy farm. He died in St. Louis in 1906. Bill Mueller

Thank you so much! Nancy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jonbar Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 1:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [BW] Wickenhauser / Wickenhiser Hi Nancy, I am afraid I havn´t found any, but I´ll make a more thorough check when I have more time. I am constructing one large index from around 80 indexes. I am upto 11,000 names but there are many more to go. Jon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Listers, The silent majority roared. Thank you, one and all. We are back in business. We have blessings from all the BW list administrators (including the big Kahuna himself) to post the requests for lookups and the findings on the BW site again. I had given out my personal email to get the "clutter off site" and now we should change back. You all responded (roared) and the "off site" decision was reversed. Now, however, it's time to return to using the BW site ([email protected];) This way everyone can benefit from our messages. If you send your request to me, only you and I will gain from findings. If sent to the BW site, others will also be able to see the messages. Hopefully someone will find that elusive clue they have been searching for. In the two or three years I've been doing this, we have found dozens of ancestors. The big payoff; the Raab List can take credit for destroying two brick walls. As before, I ask for only one or two surnames per request. Best to add a given name because so many of these names are fairly common. Even some of the less common surnames can have 8 or 10 prisoners listed and if I send all those to the list, we may not be able to roar loud enough the next time. Again, thanks for all the nice comments and thanks to the list administrators for their flexibility. Marvin

Hi Bill,   Have you seen this site?   http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jwkrussel&id=I47658 Also although this one is older than yours... perhaps an uncle?  http://ursula.foster.cc/page48.html   http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/Buecher6.htm  several children of Valentin Mueller in St. Louis buried in St. Marcus which is not a Catholic Cemetery here (I live in St. Louis)... it is Lutheran.    Hope something here helps!   Laura >________________________________ > From: Bill Mueller <[email protected]> >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 2:43 PM >Subject: [BW] Valentin Mueller > >    I have trying to find out where in Baden, Germany my gGrandfather, Valentin Mueller was born.  He was born Jan. 1835, he left Germany for la  Harve, France around 1855 and came to the United States through New Orleans, La.  He arrived in Jan. 1857.  He made his way to St Louis, Mo. He settled there, married Henreitta Gihr, they had seven children, he had a dairy farm. >He died in St. Louis in 1906. >      Bill Mueller > > > >Sent from my iPad > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Are you referring to the Raab list? Paul On Dé Máirt, 20 Márta, 2012, at 12:54, jonbar wrote: > Paul, > > Leo Reichle was a soldier on the run from the VIII infantry > regiment in 1850 641 > > > > > > > Jon > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In case this helps, my relative Christian Hirtzel made the same trip, but from the Alsace. My relatives recorded the story of him (and his family) arriving in New Orleans, and after much searching through the LDS site, I found the right ship passenger list. I think that I maybe obtained the film of the purported year of their arrival (1832) from the LDS, and then ordered the film, and scanned the film until I found them (with a "Hirzel" spelling). You might have the same luck. Paul On Dé Máirt, 20 Márta, 2012, at 12:43, Bill Mueller wrote: > I have trying to find out where in Baden, Germany my gGrandfather, Valentin Mueller was born. He was born Jan. 1835, he left Germany for la Harve, France around 1855 and came to the United States through New Orleans, La. He arrived in Jan. 1857. He made his way to St Louis, Mo. He settled there, married Henreitta Gihr, they had seven children, he had a dairy farm. > He died in St. Louis in 1906. > Bill Mueller > > > > Sent from my iPad > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, the name is Schreiner I misspelled it. They lived in jefferson Co, Wisconsin. Their home was Diersheim, Baden, Germany. I have a copy of the contract ticket the family (parents and younger three sons) used to immigrated to the US in 1849. > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 21:18:23 +0100 > From: jonbar <[email protected]> > Subject: [BW] Schenier / Schreiner > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed > > Barbara, > > did you mean Schreiner. It is a much more common surname > > Jon > > > i

I have found a child was given a name at birth and died in the same year of birth. Several years later another new born child was given the same name. It was the name of the grandfather. It looks like the mother and father wanted to have a child honoring the grandparents name. This naming convention is quite common. Since newborn death was more common 100+ years ago I would suspect this re-naming convention may have been quite common. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Painter Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 9:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [BW] Naming Customs I have a question on naming customs. I'm working on the Benders of Kirchardt and have found that on several occassions where a wife has died and the husband remarried, that they named a child born to different mothers with the same father the same name. I have found two Wolffgang Benders in the same line and two Anna Catharina's in the same line born to different mothers with the same father. I have also found children who died and the next child received the dead child's name, but these children are very much alive. Has anyone else come across this? I would also appreciate some clarification to the term " grundbauren" if I have the spelling right. The word for ground and farmer, I read somewhere that it meant they were larger land holding farmers. I have a few translation books, but do not find the term in them. Thank you and thank you for the information on the marriage customs. Mark S. Painter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jan Harding 21 named Korn 13 named Kopf Send a given name Marvin Hoerig in WI -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jan Harding" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 7:33 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Raab List > Thank you for your kind offer to check names on your list. i am sorry > some people were so rude and selfish about using the site to post this > excellent source of information . could you please check Korn unsure of > place of birth and Kopf in area of Wieslach Thank you >

Ellen You better send a given name 11 Wenz 0 Wentz 0 Weickum 2 Wekum 0 Weigum Marvin Hoerig in WI -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ellen Schmand" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 6:12 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [BW] Raab list > Would be be so kind to check the list for Wentz/Wenz or > Weickum/Weikum/Weigum? > > Thank you, > Ellen

Mike, This is the only one on the prisoners list: Marvin Hoerig in WI Name--------------------- Itzin, Georg Birth Place--------------- Record-------------------- 40000021871 Number------------------- 15746 Name Variation-------- Residence---------------- Bellingen Profession---------------- Sex------------------------ m Nationality---------------- D Age------------------------- Year Incarcerated--------- 1848 Country of Origin-------- Baden Region--------------------- Müllheim Revolutionary Army------ Militia---------------------- Single----------------------- Married--------------------- Biography------------------ Der Beteiligung am Struveaufstand im September 1848 beschuldigt (305 / 73: 69). -------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Itzin" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 5:54 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [BW] RAAB Index Lookup request > Marvin, > > When you get a chance, please see if you have anything on " Itzin " > Thanks > > Mike Itzin > 7949 Idaho Ave N > Brooklyn Park, MN 55445-2614 > USA > [email protected] > 763-566-4094 > Cell 612-251-4557 > Fax 763-566-1746 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jon, Would you be able to check and see if there are any Wickenhisers/Wickenhausers on that list that would have reported for army duty? Thank you! Nancy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jonbar Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 11:18 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [BW] Wenz Ellen, Carl August Wenz from Koenigsbach, born 1827 didn´t report for army duty in 1849, and Samuel Wenz from Wiesloch born 1824 also didn´t report for army duty in 1849 Jon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jim, Which guy do you want ? Zürn, Georg Michael Zürn, Johann Zürn, Johann Karl Zürn, Karl Zorn, Georg Zorn, Jakob Zorn, Jakob Zorn, Karl Zorn, Mathias Marvin Hoerig in WI -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim Zurn" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 5:41 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [BW] Raab list > Thank you in advance - Are there any Zurn, Zuern, Zorn (s) on the RAAB > list? Very best regards, Jim Zurn >

Sandra, There are a bunch of Hucks but no Huckes. If interested send a given name. No Prechtels or Baechner Marvin Hoerig in WI -------------------------------------------------- From: "Sandra Sowers" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 5:15 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [BW] Raab list > Could you please check to see if the names Hucke, Prechtel or Baechner > appear? Thank you! Sandra Sowers > >

Dandy, Here are your Johann Fallers. Hope at least one belongs to you. Marvin Hoerig in WI Name--------------------- Faller, Johann Birth Place--------------- Record--------------------- 40000010550 Number------------------- 7440 Name Variation-------- Residence---------------- Donaueschingen Profession---------------- Hafner 2nd Occupation--------- Jäger Sex-------------------------- Nationality--------------- Age------------------------- Year Incarcerated------ Country of Origin------- Baden Region--------------------- Donaueschingen Revolutionary Army--- Militia---------------------- Single----------------------- Married------------------- Biography------------------ Jäger der Gemeinde Donaueschingen, aus Sicht der Behörden 'ein heftiger Schreier' (313 / 4243: 12-13). Name--------------------- Faller, Johann Birth Place--------------- Record-------------------- 40000010551 Number------------------- 7441 Name Variation-------- Residence---------------- Schonach Profession---------------- Sex------------------------- m Nationality--------------- D Age------------------------- Year Incarcerated------ 1849 Country of Origin------- Baden Region--------------------- Triberg Revolutionary Army--- Militia---------------------- Single----------------------- Yes Married------------------- Biography----------------- Wegen Majestätsbeleidigung am 15. November 1851 duch das Hofgericht in Freiburg zu fünf Monaten Kreisgefängnis verurteilt (StAF B 746 / 6 Nr. 75: 14). Name--------------------- Faller, Johann Birth Place--------------- Record-------------------- 40000010552 Number-------------------7442 Name Variation-------- Residence---------------- Hüfingen Profession---------------- Schneidermeister Sex--------------------------m Nationality---------------D Age------------------------- Year Incarcerated------ 1849 Country of Origin------ Baden Region-------------------- Hüfingen Revolutionary Army--- Militia---------------------- Single----------------------- Married------------------- Biography----------------- Untersuchung wegen Hochverrats mit Urteil des Hofgerichts Konstanz vom 28. Dezember 1850 ausgesetzt (237 / 16844*). Nach Angaben vom 7. November 1854 heimlich verschwunden (GASK, 1854, S. 393). Bis zum 8. März 1855 nicht gestellt, Staatsbürgerrecht aberkannt (GASK, 1855, S. 69). From: Sandy Faller Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 5:12 PM To: Marvin Hoerig Subject: Re: Look up Marvin, Sorry about that, I know time is precious,and I do apologize! The name would be: Johannes Faller Sincerely, Thank you.. Sandy Faller From: Marvin Hoerig <[email protected]> To: Sandy Faller <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 2:14 PM Subject: Re: Look up Sandy, There are 43 Fallers on the list. I'll need a given name. Marvin Hoerig in WI From: Sandy Faller Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 11:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Look up Dear Marvin, Would appreciate a look up for: Faller At you convience. Sincerely, Sandy Faller

Barb, Egenriether is not on the prisoner list. Sorry Marvin Hoerig in WI -------------------------------------------------- > Marvin, > > Are there any Egenriether on the list? > > Thanks, > > Barb

Hello, Looking for Conradt Eckert who came over on the ship the Samuel - August 1731 and his brother, Heinrich came over on the Pleasant 1732 (or vice versa on the ships). I don't have the information with me. Conradt's wife, Dorety Breiling was on the ship with him, under her maiden name. Any help would be appreciated in finding where they came from in Germany. Thanks, Anne Valliere > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 16:57:14 -0400 > Subject: Re: [BW] From the List Co-Administrator: On-List Lookups Have Been Invited to CONTINUE > > Thank you, Carla: > > That was a wise and welcomed decision. After all, anyone not interested > always has the dELETE option! > > Marilyn > Washington, DC > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carla Heller" <[email protected]> > To: "B-W Mailing List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:18 PM > Subject: [BW] From the List Co-Administrator: On-List Lookups Have Been > Invited to CONTINUE > > > > Dear Baden-Wuerttemberg List Members, > > > > In view of the overwhelming show of interest and support for Marvin > > Hoerig's kind and generous offer to do information look ups for our list > > subscribers, we have invited him to continue to do so on-list at his > > discretion. > > > > Please note that we had several earlier requests sent privately to the > > list administrator to discontinue the growing thread of these messages, as > > evidently some list members did not seem to appreciate them. However, it > > is now very apparent that a vast majority of our subscribers are > > interested in benefitting from this exchange of information, and Mr. > > Hoerig has graciously indicated in several on-list posts his willingness > > to continue to perform the lookups and share the results on-list. Unless > > Mr. Hoerig decides otherwise, he is entirely welcome to do so, and we > > would like to offer our gratitude to him for his kindness and generosity. > > > > We always want the Baden-Wuerttemberg Mailing List to be an informative > > and beneficial forum for our subscribers who are seeking family history > > details and researching their roots. Your kind understanding and friendly > > cooperation in this regard is deeply appreciated. > > > > Wishing you the best in family research outcomes using this and other > > resources, > > > > Carla HELLER, Los Angeles, California USA [email protected] > > List Co-Administrator, ROOTSWEB'S Baden-Wuerttemberg Mailing List > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Some of my relatives from what is now the Nordrhein-Westfalen Länder were soldiers serving in other German states. Did any appear in the index? Bert Balt Rochester, NY

Hi Marvin, That I do not know. My research has gone back to about 1809 in Russia and I am trying to make a connection to Germany. Any help would be appreciated.... Ellen -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marvin Hoerig Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 9:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BW] Wenz - Wekum Ellen You better send a given name 11 Wenz 0 Wentz 0 Weickum 2 Wekum 0 Weigum Marvin Hoerig in WI -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ellen Schmand" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 6:12 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [BW] Raab list > Would be be so kind to check the list for Wentz/Wenz or > Weickum/Weikum/Weigum? > > Thank you, > Ellen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message