We always have a brick wall or two to climb, Elsie. Sounds like you are doing wonderfully well. I have been doing genealogy for fourty odd years and have a few brick walls, but my Dad's German background has been really hard to solve. I have a little information on my 3rd great-grandfather, Philip Groff/Graeff and a little more on his wife, my 3rd great-grandmother, Joanna Elisabetha Gintz. My Wurttemberg brick walls are Joseph Fox/Fuchs/Fose (have seen records in Ohio with all spellings) who was born in 1820 in Wurttemberg. His wife, Francizka/Frances Fisher was also born in Wurttemberg in 1822. They came to Ohio between 1850 and 1853. My Dad's genealogy is 100 percent German, no bits of anything except before coming to Germany very, very early on may have been from Switzerland. Thank you for your time and helpfulness, Elsie, I really appreciate it because you never know when something new could turn up. [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: saare <[email protected]> To: baden-wurttemberg <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Mar 27, 2012 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [BW] reading the old German script Ellen, I'm sorry for your plight. My parents were the immigrants so I knew he home towns. Unfortunately, I didn't learn the language very well but am earning it better by doing genealogy. What names are you looking for? erhaps I have some in my database of 25,000 people. All my roots are in uerttemberg except for one 10 great-grandfather who came from Switzerland. akes me 99.999% German, LOL. To commiserate, after 14 years we have made no progress on DHs reat-grandfather and several other of his ancestors. No further along than efore we began. But keep searching, especially on the LDS site. One of DHs randfather did pop up there and we got back to 1600. However, we don't know here the son, DHs grandfather was born. Seems ggf and a wife and 3 kids in ne town, then pops up onboard ship with another woman and a son. Don't know here that son was born. Found the woman's home town but the son is a brick all. Ah, such is the agony and ecstasy of research. Do send me some names, perhaps I or someone else knows something. lsie -----Original Message----- rom: [email protected] ent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:51 PM o: [email protected] ubject: Re: [BW] reading the old German script lsie, I so admire all you have accomplished. Wish I had a village or town n Wurttemberg to search for records. have names, years born and that they were born in Wurttemberg, had three hildren then immigrated around 850 to 1853 to Ohio. Three children were born in Wurttemberg the last one n 1850 and the next child was born n Ohio in 1853. That is all I have and after nearly 40 years I have not ound them anywhere, not in immigration lists r ships lists. Have gone searching for them in various areas of urttemberg to no avail. o I am happy for those of you who have had much better luck. istfully, llen [email protected] ----Original Message----- rom: saare <[email protected]> o: baden-wurttemberg <[email protected]> ent: Tue, Mar 27, 2012 2:36 pm ubject: Re: [BW] reading the old German script he other resouce I love, in addition to the German alphabet, is Ernest ode's book, German English Genealogical Dictionary. Without it, I would t be able to figure out the occupations, calendars, diseases, holy ys,etc. As long as you can read part of the word, you can usually find it the dictionary. I bought a copy for our local FHC. No connection to nest, etc. Good luck everyone. The Germans were such excellent record epers you can't afford to miss out. Give me a shout if you need help. lsie ----Original Message----- om: [email protected] nt: Sunday, March 25, 2012 1:05 PM : [email protected] bject: [BW] reading the old German script Elsie, thanks so very much. This is very helpful. I have the book If I n read German you can (brief) it is great. Thanks again for shaing. Walk in peace, Linn ------------------------------ unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without e quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] th the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of e message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without he quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Congratulations Kathy: My husband and I have been lucky enough to find relatives in other countries. They hardly speak English but through google we have been able to communicate fairly well. In the 2 1/2 years of first making contact we went to their country and enjoyed visiting with them and getting to know them What a grand experience. Through all of our communications we have become very close. In fact closer than some relatives here in our native country. Enjoy to the fullest. Walk in peace, Linn

Hi Laura, thank you for the suggestions. Will see if I can find anything new. Have used several German genealogy sites over the years and found very little on the Wurttemberg families the Fox/Fuchs and Fishers, had just a little better luck with my Rhineland-Pfalz families, Graeff and Gintz. Again I appreciate your time and the good ideas. Thank you. Ellen [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Ronald and Laura Bozzay <[email protected]> To: baden-wurttemberg <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Mar 27, 2012 4:30 pm Subject: Re: [BW] reading the old German script I have several ideas for finding family in Germany when you do not know the town besied the LDS site everyone knows about): . http://www.geneanet.org/?lang=en this is like the European version of ootsweb trees. Having said that there can be incorrect data in user donated rees but they can point you to the right places to do the research. There is a ree side and a pay side. Start with the free side. Use the advanced search nd select Germany for the place to narrow down results. . http://www.online-ofb.de/index.php select an area and go location by ocation within it to see if you can find your family. hese are the choices for Baden-Württemberg erlingen (70839), Weil im Schönbuch (71093), Schönaich (71101), Steinenbronn 71144), Ditzingen (71240), Beutelsbach (71384), Oberriexingen (71739), aihingen an er Enz (71665), Plochingen (73201), Oberesslingen (737..), Esslingen (737xx), rfeld (74736), Neibsheim/Bretten (75015), Spessart/Ettlingen (76275), inkenheim-Hochstetten (76351), Winterdorf (Rastatt) (76437), Durmersheim 76448), Huttenheim Philippsburg) (76661), Ulmer Land (89xxx), Öllingen (89129), Neenstetten 89189), Reicholzheim (97877) his is a German site and you will need to select Gesamtliste der amiliennamen" from the left hand options to open the area for an alphabetical isting of the family names for each location. ope this helps! aura ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [BW] reading the old German script Elsie, I so admire all you have accomplished. Wish I had a village or town in urttemberg to search for records. I have names, years born and that they were born in Wurttemberg, had three hildren then immigrated around 1850 to 1853 to Ohio. Three children were born in Wurttemberg the last one in 850 and the next child was born in Ohio in 1853. That is all I have and after nearly 40 years I have not found hem anywhere, not in immigration lists or ships lists. Have gone searching for them in various areas of Wurttemberg o no avail. So I am happy for those of you who have had much better luck. Wistfully, Ellen [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: saare <[email protected]> To: baden-wurttemberg <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Mar 27, 2012 2:36 pm Subject: Re: [BW] reading the old German script The other resouce I love, in addition to the German alphabet, is Ernest hode's book, German English Genealogical Dictionary. Without it, I would ot be able to figure out the occupations, calendars, diseases, holy ays,etc. As long as you can read part of the word, you can usually find it n the dictionary. I bought a copy for our local FHC. No connection to rnest, etc. Good luck everyone. The Germans were such excellent record eepers you can't afford to miss out. Give me a shout if you need help. Elsie -----Original Message----- rom: [email protected] ent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 1:05 PM o: [email protected] ubject: [BW] reading the old German script Elsie, thanks so very much. This is very helpful. I have the book If I an read German you can (brief) it is great. Thanks again for shaing. Walk in peace, Linn ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without he quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Ellen, I'm sorry for your plight. My parents were the immigrants so I knew the home towns. Unfortunately, I didn't learn the language very well but am learning it better by doing genealogy. What names are you looking for? Perhaps I have some in my database of 25,000 people. All my roots are in Wuerttemberg except for one 10 great-grandfather who came from Switzerland. Makes me 99.999% German, LOL. To commiserate, after 14 years we have made no progress on DHs great-grandfather and several other of his ancestors. No further along than before we began. But keep searching, especially on the LDS site. One of DHs grandfather did pop up there and we got back to 1600. However, we don't know where the son, DHs grandfather was born. Seems ggf and a wife and 3 kids in one town, then pops up onboard ship with another woman and a son. Don't know where that son was born. Found the woman's home town but the son is a brick wall. Ah, such is the agony and ecstasy of research. Do send me some names, perhaps I or someone else knows something. Elsie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BW] reading the old German script Elsie, I so admire all you have accomplished. Wish I had a village or town in Wurttemberg to search for records. I have names, years born and that they were born in Wurttemberg, had three children then immigrated around 1850 to 1853 to Ohio. Three children were born in Wurttemberg the last one in 1850 and the next child was born in Ohio in 1853. That is all I have and after nearly 40 years I have not found them anywhere, not in immigration lists or ships lists. Have gone searching for them in various areas of Wurttemberg to no avail. So I am happy for those of you who have had much better luck. Wistfully, Ellen [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: saare <[email protected]> To: baden-wurttemberg <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Mar 27, 2012 2:36 pm Subject: Re: [BW] reading the old German script The other resouce I love, in addition to the German alphabet, is Ernest hode's book, German English Genealogical Dictionary. Without it, I would ot be able to figure out the occupations, calendars, diseases, holy ays,etc. As long as you can read part of the word, you can usually find it n the dictionary. I bought a copy for our local FHC. No connection to rnest, etc. Good luck everyone. The Germans were such excellent record eepers you can't afford to miss out. Give me a shout if you need help. Elsie -----Original Message----- rom: [email protected] ent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 1:05 PM o: [email protected] ubject: [BW] reading the old German script Elsie, thanks so very much. This is very helpful. I have the book If I an read German you can (brief) it is great. Thanks again for shaing. Walk in peace, Linn ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without he quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Richard, You might find it interesting to search on "Oberriexingen Geschichte". Perhaps most interesting is a link to a Zeittafel (timeline) on the city's web site. Also references to a Roman wine cellar turned museum and educational center, the great fire of 1693 that is still evident in the scorch marks on the tower of St. George's church, the periodic major floods of the Enz river, the 1200-year anniversary of the city, and mention of a couple of recent history books. So folks are clearly interested in their history. Perhaps a vacation trip is in order with a chance to ask about local historians. David Bennett > > > 2. need help (Richard Swank) > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:06:14 -0700 > From: Richard Swank <[email protected]> > Subject: [BW] need help > To: baden-wurttemberg <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi. > I have a question. I have found my Johannes Schwenk who died in > Oberriexingen, Ludwigsburg, Wurttenburg, Germany in 1736. He was born > about 1670. I found this information on www.online-ofb.de and have > verified it with copies of the original records for the whole family. I > have been told by the attendants at the Family History Lib. in Salt Lake > City, Utah, that is about as far back as I can go. Is there a way to go > back farther on my Johannes Schwenk family? > I will thank you for any help that I get. > Richard Swank in So. California [email protected] > >

Elsie: Your right Thod's book, German English Genalogical dictionary is a great resource. Walk in peace, Linn On 03/27/12, [email protected] wrote: The other resouce I love, in addition to the German alphabet, is Ernest Thode's book, German English Genealogical Dictionary. Without it, I would not be able to figure out the occupations, calendars, diseases, holy days,etc. As long as you can read part of the word, you can usually find it in the dictionary. I bought a copy for our local FHC. No connection to Ernest, etc. Good luck everyone. The Germans were such excellent record keepers you can't afford to miss out. Give me a shout if you need help. Elsie -----Original Message----- From: [1][email protected] Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 1:05 PM To: [2][email protected] Subject: [BW] reading the old German script Elsie, thanks so very much. This is very helpful. I have the book If I can read German you can (brief) it is great. Thanks again for shaing. Walk in peace, Linn ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN[3][email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN[4][email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:[email protected] 2. mailto:[email protected] 3. mailto:[email protected] 4. mailto:[email protected]

Elsie, I so admire all you have accomplished. Wish I had a village or town in Wurttemberg to search for records. I have names, years born and that they were born in Wurttemberg, had three children then immigrated around 1850 to 1853 to Ohio. Three children were born in Wurttemberg the last one in 1850 and the next child was born in Ohio in 1853. That is all I have and after nearly 40 years I have not found them anywhere, not in immigration lists or ships lists. Have gone searching for them in various areas of Wurttemberg to no avail. So I am happy for those of you who have had much better luck. Wistfully, Ellen [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: saare <[email protected]> To: baden-wurttemberg <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Mar 27, 2012 2:36 pm Subject: Re: [BW] reading the old German script The other resouce I love, in addition to the German alphabet, is Ernest hode's book, German English Genealogical Dictionary. Without it, I would ot be able to figure out the occupations, calendars, diseases, holy ays,etc. As long as you can read part of the word, you can usually find it n the dictionary. I bought a copy for our local FHC. No connection to rnest, etc. Good luck everyone. The Germans were such excellent record eepers you can't afford to miss out. Give me a shout if you need help. Elsie -----Original Message----- rom: [email protected] ent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 1:05 PM o: [email protected] ubject: [BW] reading the old German script Elsie, thanks so very much. This is very helpful. I have the book If I an read German you can (brief) it is great. Thanks again for shaing. Walk in peace, Linn ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without he quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

I would like to report that I also have had great luck with Geneanet. - the free version! Thru it I recently located a 7th cousin 1x removed who took my Giffels family back to the early 1600's in Wadenheim, Ahrweiler, Rheinland-Pfalz, Prussia. I was ecstatic! She doesn't speak a lot of English, so I have utilized Google Translate to send her my messages in German. We have done okay by this method! Good luck! Kathy in San Andreas, California -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 2:49 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [BW] reading the old German script Hi Laura, thank you for the suggestions. Will see if I can find anything new. Have used severalGerman genealogy sites over the years and found very little on the Wurttemberg families the Fox/Fuchs and Fishers, had justa little better luck with my Rhineland-Pfalz families, Graeff and Gintz.Again I appreciate your time and the good ideas. Thank you.Ellen [email protected] -----Original Message-----From: Ronald and Laura Bozzay <[email protected]>To: baden-wurttemberg <[email protected]>Sent: Tue, Mar 27, 2012 4:30 pmSubject: Re: [BW] reading the old German script I have several ideas for finding family in Germany when you do not know the town besied the LDS site everyone knows about): . http://www.geneanet.org/?lang=en this is like the European version of ootsweb trees. Having said that there can be incorrect data in user donated rees but they can point you to the right places to do the research. There is a free side and a pay side. Start with the free side. Use the advanced search and select Germany for the place to narrow down results. . http://www.online-ofb.de/index.php select an area and go location by ocation within it to see if you can find your family. hese are the choices for Baden-Württembergerlingen (70839), Weil im Schönbuch (71093), Schönaich (71101), Steinenbronn 71144), Ditzingen (71240), Beutelsbach (71384), Oberriexingen (71739), aihingen an er Enz (71665), Plochingen (73201), Oberesslingen (737..), Esslingen (737xx), rfeld (74736), Neibsheim/Bretten (75015), Spessart/Ettlingen (76275), inkenheim-Hochstetten (76351), Winterdorf (Rastatt) (76437), Durmersheim 76448), Huttenheim Philippsburg) (76661), Ulmer Land (89xxx), Öllingen (89129), Neenstetten 89189), Reicholzheim (97877) his is a German site and you will need to select Gesamtliste der amiliennamen" from the left hand options to open the area for an alphabetical isting of the family names for each location. ope this helps! aura ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 2:51 PMSubject: Re: [BW] reading the old German script Elsie, I so admire all you have accomplished. Wish I had a village or town in urttemberg to search for records.I have names, years born and that they were born in Wurttemberg, had three hildren then immigrated around1850 to 1853 to Ohio. Three children were born in Wurttemberg the last one in 850 and the next child was bornin Ohio in 1853. That is all I have and after nearly 40 years I have not found hem anywhere, not in immigration listsor ships lists. Have gone searching for them in various areas of Wurttemberg o no avail.So I am happy for those of you who have had much better luck.Wistfully,Ellen [email protected] -----Original Message-----From: saare <[email protected]>To: baden-wurttemberg <[email protected]>Sent: Tue, Mar 27, 2012 2:36 pmSubject: Re: [BW] reading the old German script The other resouce I love, in addition to the German alphabet, is Ernest hode's book, German English Genealogical Dictionary. Without it, I would ot be able to figure out the occupations, calendars, diseases, holy ays,etc. As long as you can read part of the word, you can usually find it n the dictionary. I bought a copy for our local FHC. No connection to rnest, etc. Good luck everyone. The Germans were such excellent record eepers you can't afford to miss out. Give me a shout if you need help.Elsie-----Original Message----- rom: [email protected]: Sunday, March 25, 2012 1:05 PMo: [email protected]: [BW] reading the old German script Elsie, thanks so very much. This is very helpful. I have the book If I an read German you can (brief) it is great. Thanks again for shaing. 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The other resouce I love, in addition to the German alphabet, is Ernest Thode's book, German English Genealogical Dictionary. Without it, I would not be able to figure out the occupations, calendars, diseases, holy days,etc. As long as you can read part of the word, you can usually find it in the dictionary. I bought a copy for our local FHC. No connection to Ernest, etc. Good luck everyone. The Germans were such excellent record keepers you can't afford to miss out. Give me a shout if you need help. Elsie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 1:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [BW] reading the old German script Elsie, thanks so very much. This is very helpful. I have the book If I can read German you can (brief) it is great. Thanks again for shaing. Walk in peace, Linn ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

How right you are, Ted. I have found great tidbits in the margins or notes of an entry, one saying a great uncle died in 1892 aboard the USS New York in the vicinity of Cuba. That told me he immigrated, he was in the Spanish-American War, and when he died. I then contacted NARA for the entry in the ship's log concerning his death. He is not mentioned in any of the Spanish-American War books of which there are few. Just an example for others. Glad to see that you are still in the genealogy researching pool. LOL. Elsie -----Original Message----- From: Ted Snediker Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 2:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BW] reading the old German script Elsie, My hat's off to you for your grit and determination in learning all this. I did too, and it was self-taught for the most part, so I can appreciate your effort. My only advantage was that I started the process with a pretty fluent knowledge of written and spoken German. My point is, though, that it can be done, even if it takes some effort. And the rewards are plentiful. You will appreciate what I mean by the value and interest to be found in the many marginal notes that you will find in these registers, brief annotations which will often lead you to tidbits that you would not learn of otherwise. Regards, Ted Snediker

I have several ideas for finding family in Germany when you do not know the town (besied the LDS site everyone knows about):   1.  http://www.geneanet.org/?lang=en   this is like the European version of rootsweb trees.  Having said that there can be incorrect data in user donated trees but they can point you to the right places to do the research.  There is a free side and a pay side.  Start with the free side.  Use the advanced search and select Germany for the place to narrow down results.    2.  http://www.online-ofb.de/index.php  select an area and go location by location within it to see if you can find your family.   These are the choices for Baden-Württemberg Gerlingen (70839), Weil im Schönbuch (71093), Schönaich (71101), Steinenbronn (71144), Ditzingen (71240), Beutelsbach (71384), Oberriexingen (71739), Vaihingen an der Enz (71665), Plochingen (73201), Oberesslingen (737..), Esslingen (737xx), Erfeld (74736), Neibsheim/Bretten (75015), Spessart/Ettlingen (76275), Linkenheim-Hochstetten (76351), Winterdorf (Rastatt) (76437), Durmersheim (76448), Huttenheim (Philippsburg) (76661), Ulmer Land (89xxx), Öllingen (89129), Neenstetten (89189), Reicholzheim (97877) This is a German site and you will need to select "Gesamtliste der Familiennamen" from the left hand options to open the area for an alphabetical listing of the family names for each location.     Hope this helps!   Laura   >________________________________ > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 2:51 PM >Subject: Re: [BW] reading the old German script > > >Elsie, I so admire all you have accomplished.  Wish I had a village or town in Wurttemberg to search for records. >I have names, years born and that they were born in Wurttemberg, had three children then immigrated around >1850 to 1853 to Ohio.  Three children were born in Wurttemberg the last one in 1850 and the next child was born >in Ohio in 1853.  That is all I have and after nearly 40 years I have not found them anywhere, not in immigration lists >or ships lists.  Have gone searching for them in various areas of Wurttemberg to no avail. >So I am happy for those of you who have had much better luck. >Wistfully, >Ellen > > >[email protected] > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: saare <[email protected]> >To: baden-wurttemberg <[email protected]> >Sent: Tue, Mar 27, 2012 2:36 pm >Subject: Re: [BW] reading the old German script > > >The other resouce I love, in addition to the German alphabet, is Ernest >hode's book, German English Genealogical Dictionary. Without it, I would >ot be able to figure out the occupations, calendars, diseases, holy >ays,etc. As long as you can read part of the word, you can usually find it >n the dictionary. I bought a copy for our local FHC. No connection to >rnest, etc. Good luck everyone. The Germans were such excellent record >eepers you can't afford to miss out. Give me a shout if you need help. >Elsie >-----Original Message----- >rom: [email protected] >ent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 1:05 PM >o: [email protected] >ubject: [BW] reading the old German script > >  Elsie, thanks so very much.  This is very helpful.  I have the book If I >an >  read German you can (brief) it is great. >  Thanks again for shaing. >  Walk in peace, >  Linn >------------------------------- >o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >he quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------ >o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of >he message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

The state of Hesse is north of Baden-Württemberg. Darmstadft is a city within Hesse. C > To: [email protected] > From: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:01:17 -0400 > Subject: [BW] Kessler-Ruh > > I am new to this list. I have no idea what area I should be asking about. I am searching Philip Kessler His wife may have been Eva Ruh. The information I have is they came from Hesse Darmstardt. Sometime in the 1850's to Brooklyn NY What port would they have left from? I find them with a Scrader family. I don't know if they are related. Would appreciate any help. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

When the Family History Center told you that you couldn't go back any further in tracing your Schwank ancestors, they may have meant that they didn't have any films going back before that date. You can check that by going to the library catalog at familysearch.org. Or it may mean that any earlier records for your village were destroyed in one of the wars that ravaged the area, most likely the Thirty Years' War. Although Luther ordered the Evangelisch churches to begin to keep records in the mid-1500s, not all churches started at the exact same date; and not all the records have survived war, fire, insects, or other destruction. I would start by looking at the familysearch.org catalog. Beyond that, I would write to the Evangelisch church in your village and ask how early the surviving records go. Teva Scheer -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Kemle Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:12 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BW] need help Yes You can. For example, I have my ancestry back to 1558. On Familysearch.org you may find more ancestors related to your Johannes Scchwank. Or on Ancestry.com which has a 14 day free trial. David Kemle ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Swank<mailto:[email protected]> To: baden-wurttemberg<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:06 AM Subject: [BW] need help Hi. I have a question. I have found my Johannes Schwenk who died in Oberriexingen, Ludwigsburg, Wurttenburg, Germany in 1736. He was born about 1670. I found this information on www.online-ofb.de<http://www.online-ofb.de/> and have verified it with copies of the original records for the whole family. I have been told by the attendants at the Family History Lib. in Salt Lake City, Utah, that is about as far back as I can go. Is there a way to go back farther on my Johannes Schwenk family? I will thank you for any help that I get. Richard Swank in So. California [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected] sweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes You can. For example, I have my ancestry back to 1558. On Familysearch.org you may find more ancestors related to your Johannes Scchwank. Or on Ancestry.com which has a 14 day free trial. David Kemle ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Swank<mailto:[email protected]> To: baden-wurttemberg<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:06 AM Subject: [BW] need help Hi. I have a question. I have found my Johannes Schwenk who died in Oberriexingen, Ludwigsburg, Wurttenburg, Germany in 1736. He was born about 1670. I found this information on www.online-ofb.de<http://www.online-ofb.de/> and have verified it with copies of the original records for the whole family. I have been told by the attendants at the Family History Lib. in Salt Lake City, Utah, that is about as far back as I can go. Is there a way to go back farther on my Johannes Schwenk family? I will thank you for any help that I get. Richard Swank in So. California [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi. I have a question. I have found my Johannes Schwenk who died in Oberriexingen, Ludwigsburg, Wurttenburg, Germany in 1736. He was born about 1670. I found this information on www.online-ofb.de and have verified it with copies of the original records for the whole family. I have been told by the attendants at the Family History Lib. in Salt Lake City, Utah, that is about as far back as I can go. Is there a way to go back farther on my Johannes Schwenk family? I will thank you for any help that I get. Richard Swank in So. California [email protected]

Thanks Marvin Barbara Barbara Coakley [email protected] ________________________________ From: Marvin Hoerig <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, March 26, 2012 9:07:21 AM Subject: Re: [BW] Ziebold - Zebold Barbara, There is little information on either but what was there is listed below. Marvin Hoerig in WI Name-------------------Sebold, Josef Birth Place------------ Record-----------------40000052611 Number----------------37818 Name Variation------- Residence------------- Kaiserslautern Profession------------- Sex--------------------- m Nationality------------- D Age--------------------- Year Incarcerated----- 1849 Country of Origin----- Bayern Region----------------- Pfalz Revolutionary Army--Militia----------------- Single------------------ Married---------------- Biography------------- Am 29. Juli 1849 Gefangener im Rastatter Fort C (49 / 2410*: 44). Name------------------- Ziebold, Gottlieb Birth Place------------ Record----------------- 40000052736 Number---------------- Name Variation-------- Residence------------- Köndringen Profession------------- Sex--------------------- m Nationality------------- D Age--------------------- Year Incarcerated----- 1848 Country of Origin----- Baden Region----------------- Emmendingen Revolutionary Army--Militia----------------- Single------------------ Married---------------- Biography------------- Abonnent des 'Volksführers' (236 / 8567*: 40). -------------------------------------------------- From: "Barbara Coakley" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 9:45 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BW] Ziebold > Gottlieb is my g g grandfather and Josef is his brother > > Thanks > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 20, 2012, at 6:57 AM, "Marvin Hoerig" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Barbara, >> There is one Gottlieb Ziebold and also one Josef Zebold >> >> Marvin Hoerig in WI >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Barbara Coakley" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 9:04 AM >> To: <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [BW] RAAB Index >> >>> Martin would you please check Ziebold? >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can you search for someone else on the passenger list. I recently "lost" my 3rd great grandfather when Ancestry decided to upgrade their index and went with the wrong spelling of his name. I finally found the record but had to work for a couple of hours to find it. To prevent it happening again, a printed the record to a PDF and saved the information to my hard drive. On 3/26/2012 11:16 AM, Jim Herter wrote: > That is really odd. I just searched for my GGreat Grandfather, Ezechiel Herter > and a search with just Herter and he didn't appear. Castle Garden is where I > found him originally that eventually led to my Moessingen connections. I even > recall the date: Dec 1 1860 and the ship: Bark Jubilaeum. Keep us apprised as to > the castlegarden.org response. > > > Jim Herter > Lonesome Oak Business Development Group > (269) 414-2230 > http://jherter.wordpress.com/ > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Walter Blenderman<[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, March 26, 2012 10:47:31 AM > Subject: Re: [BW] Immigration to America -Transportation etc. > > Jim and All, > > Just as a heads-up: I recently searched the Castle Garden site, and could NOT > find some entries that I had found previously. Something strange is going on > there. I wrote them to ask why my earlier finds were missing, but they haven't > answered. > > Walter G. Blenderman > > > > On Mar 26, 2012, at 3:01 AM, [email protected] wrote: > >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:07:18 -0700 (PDT) >> From: Jim Herter<jherter195[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [BW] Immigration to America -Transportation etc. >> To: [email protected] >> Message-ID:<[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Morris: >> >> I did a search on the castlegarden.org site and found several Felders but no >> Ricard Leopold. Castle Garden was the processing center before Ellis Island in >> NYC. >> >> Possibly New Orleans!? >> >> >> >> You wrote: Trying to find on what ship my relative used to come to America >> around 1851-1853?? >> Ricard Leopold Felder applied for immigration in 1851 from Baden,Germany >> >> . >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > ************************************************************************************ > > "We must, indeed, all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang > separately." > Benj. Franklin, 1776. > > Walter G. Blenderman, Lynn K. Blenderman, N. Plainfield, NJ, USA > **mailto:[email protected]*******************************http://www.blenderman.net** > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you so much Marvin. I appreciate your help with my ancestors. The record is indeed interesting. It seems Peter died in prison though all I had was the date and the village nearby. Have a great day. Walk in peace, Linn On 03/26/12, Marvin Hoerig<[email protected]> wrote: Linn, There were no Jacob or Peter Steiners. Sorry. Your Peter Stahler's record is unusual in that it includes a death date and place. I assume from that, that he died in prison. Makes one wonder about the circumstances about the death. Marvin Hoerig in WI Name-------------------Stahler, Peter Birth Place------------ Death Date------------ 20.09.1849 Place of Death ------- Rastatt Record-----------------40000045800 Number---------------- 32490 Name Variation------- Pahler ? Residence------------- R�dersheim Profession------------- Sex-------- ------------- m Nationality------------- D Age--------------------- Year Incarcerated----- 1849 Country of Origin----- Bayern Region----------------- Pfalz Revolutionary Army-- Militia----------------- Single------------------ Married---------------- Biography------------- Gefangener im Rastatter Fort B; am 20. September 1849 gestorben (N Mone Nr. 28*: 80). -------------------------------------------------- From: <[1][email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 10:17 AM To: <[2][email protected]> Subject: [BW] Look up > > Marvin, thank you so very much. Yes Peter Stahler will in all probablity > be mine. For the Steiners I am looking for Jacob Steiner and Peter > Steiner. Thank you so much for all that you are doing for so many. It has > been a lot of work, kindness and generosity on your part. I truly > appreciate it. > Walk in peace, > Linn ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN[3][email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:[email protected] 2. mailto:[email protected] 3. mailto:[email protected]

I am new to this list. I have no idea what area I should be asking about. I am searching Philip Kessler His wife may have been Eva Ruh. The information I have is they came from Hesse Darmstardt. Sometime in the 1850's to Brooklyn NY What port would they have left from? I find them with a Scrader family. I don't know if they are related. Would appreciate any help.

Welcome. Have you tried [1]www.familysearch.org fill in the blanks and you may be lucky and get some hits. Walk in peace, Linn On 03/26/12, [email protected] wrote: I am new to this list. I have no idea what area I should be asking about. I am searching Philip Kessler His wife may have been Eva Ruh. The information I have is they came from Hesse Darmstardt. Sometime in the 1850's to Brooklyn NY What port would they have left from? I find them with a Scrader family. I don't know if they are related. Would appreciate any help. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BADEN[2][email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. http://www.familysearch.org/ 2. mailto:[email protected]