Any info on these folks descendents welcome: Margarethe REBMANN was born on 5 Jul 1607 in Sindelfingen, Boeblingen, Wuerttemberg, Germany. She died on 19 Oct 1638 in Sindelfingen, Boeblingen, Wuerttemberg, Germany. Margarethe married Hans LAURER, son of Hans LAURER Unlinked, on 11 Nov 1636 in Sindelfingen, Boeblingen, Wuerttemberg, Germany. Hans was born on 19 May 1611 in Sindelfingen, Boeblingen, Wuerttemberg, Germany. He died on 10 Aug 1670 in Sindelfingen, Boeblingen, Wuerttemberg, Germany. Ted

Thanks so very much Marvin. I appreciate all your help. Walk in peace, Linn Name------------------- Stahler, Peter Birth Place------------- Death Date------------- 20.09.1849 Death Place------------ Rastatt Record-----------------40000045800 Number---------------- 32490 Name Variation-------- Pahler ? Residence------------- R�dersheim Profession------------- Sex--------------------- m Nationality------------- D Age--------------------- Year Incarcerated----- 1849 Country of Origin----- Bayern Region----------------- Pfalz Revolutionary Army--Militia----------------- Single------------------ Married---------------- Biography------------- Gefangener im Rastatter Fort B; am 20. September 1849 gestorben (N Mone Nr. 28*: 80).

Hi Cathy, I have direct Fuchs ancestors from Gündlingen, Baden which is the next town to Niederrimsingen and Oberrimsingen. May be there is a connection between our families. Please tell me more about your Fuchs family. Andreas, Karlsruhe, Baden On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 4:17 AM, Cathy Claycamp <[email protected]> wrote: > Ellen, > > My Fuchs family came from the Neider Rimsingen Alt Breisah and Niederrimsingen, area of Baden.  It might give you an area to look in.  I haven't done a lot of research on them. > > > Cathy Claycamp > > > Researching: Claycamp, Gerlach, Grindle, Magin, Mersinger, Reader, Singleton > > > ________________________________ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you, Jerry. [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Slagle <[email protected]> To: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Mar 28, 2012 6:30 am Subject: [BW] SCHLEGEL, SUPPINGER, and WILLIG surnames from Niederrimsingen, Baden Hello list, I am also researching the following surnames from Niederrimsingen, Baden. CHLEGEL, SUPPINGER, and WILLIG. Pre 1835 time period. Have no FUCHS from this own in my database, but have one listed from Glarus, Switzerland. Jerry ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Hope you can make a connection, Andreas. I will check there for sure for my Fuchs'. [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: gundlingen <[email protected]> To: Cathy Claycamp <[email protected]>; baden-wurttemberg <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Mar 28, 2012 4:26 am Subject: Re: [BW] Fuchs family Hi Cathy, I have direct Fuchs ancestors from Gündlingen, Baden which is the next own to Niederrimsingen and Oberrimsingen. May be there is a onnection between our families. Please tell me more about your Fuchs family. Andreas, Karlsruhe, Baden On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 4:17 AM, Cathy Claycamp <[email protected]> wrote: Ellen, My Fuchs family came from the Neider Rimsingen Alt Breisah and iederrimsingen, area of Baden. It might give you an area to look in. I aven't done a lot of research on them. Cathy Claycamp Researching: Claycamp, Gerlach, Grindle, Magin, Mersinger, Reader, Singleton ________________________________ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Thank you, Cathy, I appreciate your input. I will certainly check that area. Census says they were born in Wurttemberg, but they have been wrong before. Thanks again. [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Cathy Claycamp <[email protected]> To: baden-wurttemberg <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Mar 27, 2012 10:20 pm Subject: [BW] Fuchs family Ellen, My Fuchs family came from the Neider Rimsingen Alt Breisah and Niederrimsingen, rea of Baden. It might give you an area to look in. I haven't done a lot of esearch on them. athy Claycamp esearching: Claycamp, Gerlach, Grindle, Magin, Mersinger, Reader, Singleton _______________________________ ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Ellen, I hope there is a clue for you in these. Marvin Hoerig in WI Name------------------- Wenz, Georg Birth Place------------ Record----------------- 40000050790 Number---------------- 36416 Name Variation--------Wentz Residence------------- Pforzheim Profession------------- Goldarbeiter Sex--------------------- m Nationality------------- D Age--------------------- Year Incarcerated----- 1849 Country of Origin----- Baden Region----------------- Pforzheim Revolutionary Army--Militia----------------- Yes Single------------------ Married---------------- Biography------------- Bei der Bürgerwehr und der Rathauswache (171 / 2378*: 326, 436; 171 / 2380*: 522). Teilnehmer am Rathaustumult (171 / 2381*: 172, 190, 210-211; 171 / 2380*: 475). Revolutionsteilnehmer, bis 1850 noch kein Urteil erlassen (237 / 2699: 48). Untersuchung wegen Hochverrats mit Urteil des Hofgerichts Bruchsal vom 7. Juni 1850 ausgesetzt (237 / 16844*, 16845). Nach Angaben vom 4. Dezember 1851 kein Grund zur strafrechtlicher Verfolgung vorhanden (237 / 2748: 6, 37-38). Name-------------------Wenz, Johann Birth Place------------ Record----------------- 40000050795 Number---------------- 36419 Name Variation-------- Residence------------- Hohenwettersbach Profession------------- Sex--------------------- m Nationality------------- D Age--------------------- Year Incarcerated----- 1849 Country of Origin----- Baden Region----------------- Durlach Revolutionary Army--Militia----------------- Single------------------ Married---------------- Biography------------- Im August 1849 als politischer Gefangener aufgeführt (236 / 8561*: 98). Name------------------- Wenz, Johann Birth Place------------ Record----------------- 40000050796 Number---------------- 36420 Name Variation-------- Residence------------- Munzingen Profession------------- Militär, Soldat Sex--------------------- m Nationality------------- D Age--------------------- Year Incarcerated----- 1849 Country of Origin----- Baden Region----------------- Freiburg, Land Revolutionary Army-- YesMilitia----------------- Single------------------ Married---------------- Biography------------- Soldat des 3. Infanterie-Regiments. 'Hat in Gemeinschaft mit den Soldaten Mohr, Doll, Sommer und Burkhard an Weihnachten 1848 an ihren Kompaniekommandanten, den Hauptmann Villiez, einen anonymen Brief mit Schmähungen und Drohungen geschrieben, wurde hierwegen in Untersuchung gezogen und in Lörrach verhaftet, beim Soldatenaufstand befreit, verfolgte hierauf treugebliebene Soldaten, namentlich diejenigen, welche gegen ihn gezeugt haben und bewirkte zugleich die Absetzung des Hauptmanns v. Villiez durch die Meuterer' (233 / 31153: 270-272). Am 29. Juli 1849 Gefangener im Rastatter Fort C (49 / 2410*: 38). Wegen Meuterei und 'Treulosigkeit' am 16. April 1850 vom Kriegsgericht in Rastatt zu dreizehn Jahren Zuchthaus verurteilt (237 / 2788: 56-57; 237 / 2826: 7-8, 44-46; 233 / 31153: 270-272). Wegen Entschädigung. Nach Angaben vom März/ April 1851 Häftling in der Strafanstalt Freiburg (269 Zug. 1952 / 39 Nr. 18: 11, 17, 48). Am 22. April 1851 zur Auswanderung begnadigt (233 / 31153: 270-272). Am 30. Mai 1851 noch in Haft (269 Zug. 1927 / 30 Nr. 1: 60). Eltern: Leopold Wenz und Josepha Hartenbach (237 / 2776*: 65-66). Name------------------- Wenz, Johann Michael Birth Place------------ Paimar Birth Date ------------ 27.04.1813 Record-----------------40000050797 Number---------------- 36421 Name Variation-------- Wanz Residence------------- Buchen Other Residence------ Stein, Neudenau Profession------------- Geistlicher, kath. Sex--------------------- m Nationality------------- D Age--------------------- 36 Year Incarcerated----- Country of Origin----- Baden Region----------------- Buchen Revolutionary Army--Militia----------------- Single------------------ Married---------------- Biography------------- Pfarrverweser in Buchen. Vor der Revolution Sprecher bzw. Vorstand des Volksvereins in Stein (298 / 13: 17; 236 / 8208*: 169-170; 364 / 540: 49, 55; 236 / 8509*: 32). 'Hat am 13. Mai 1849 öffentlich in der Kirche von der Kanzel herab eine revolutionäre Rede gehalten und dabei zum Kampf gegen die Fürsten aufgefordert' (69 v. Freydorf Nr. 117: 34; 235 / 247*: 8-9, 19; 236 / 8535*: 133-134; 236 / 8510*: 7; 236 / 8537*: 278; 236 / 8535*: 133-134). 'Hat am 22. Juni 1849 die Herbeiziehung eines zuverlässigen Aufgebots vorgeschlagen, um die Buchener zum Mitziehen in den Kampf zu zwingen und den Preußen in den Rücken zu fallen. Den Zurückbleibenden sollten die Häuser angezündet werden' (69 v. Freydorf Nr. 117: 34). Nach Angaben vom 23. August 1849 in Haft (236 / 8535*: 133-134). Mannheimer Standgerichtsakten gegen Priester Wenz von Buchen wegen Aufforderung zum Hochverrat und zum Widerstand gegen die bewaffnete Macht (69 v. Freydorf Nr. 128). Fall gemäß Erlaß vom 27. Oktober 1849 nicht mehr beim Standgericht Mannheim verhandelt (69 v. Freydorf Nr. 117: 18). In gerichtlicher Untersuchung (234 / 1409*: 85-86; 235 / 247*: 8-9, 19). Wegen Auswanderung (234 / 10215*: 386). Nach Angaben vom 9. Dezember 1849 festgenommen (236 / 8577*: 35). Untersuchungsakten (298 / 12-13). Untersuchung durch das Bezirksamt Gerlachsheim. Am 18. Dezember 1849 wegen Rebellion und Hochverrats vom Hofgericht Mannheim zu einem Jahr Zuchthaus verurteilt (234 / 10209*: 60-61, 108; 237 / 2788: 10-11; 298 / 12: 95; 237 / 2710: 7-8; 237 / 16844*, 16845). Nach Angaben vom 15. Januar 1850 am letzten Aufstand beteiligt. Rekurs eingelegt (237 / 2710: 4, 7-8). Am 2. November 1850 vom Oberhofgericht für 'klagfrei' erklärt (234 / 10209*: 352; 237 / 2825: 3; 298 / 12: 174; 237 / 16844*, 16845). Name------------------- Wenz, Peter Birth Place------------ Record----------------- 40000050801 Number---------------- 36425 Name Variation-------- Residence------------- Graben Profession------------- Militär, Soldat Sex-------------------- m Nationality------------- D Age--------------------- Year Incarcerated-----1849 Country of Origin----- Baden Region----------------- Karlsruhe, Land Revolutionary Army-- YesMilitia----------------- Single------------------ Married---------------- Biography------------- Pionier in der 6. Kompanie des 2. Regiments, ab 29. Juli 1849 als Gefangener im Rastatter Fort A aufgeführt (49 / 2410*: 20). -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ellen Schmand" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 11:58 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BW] Wenz - Wekum > Thank you for the information. Is there further information for Georg, > Johann, Johann Michael or Peter? I am trying to find a connection from > Russia to Germany and haven't gotten past the Wentz family in about 1819. > Thanks, > Ellen >

Elizabeth, This is one of the most complete records I have seen. Whenever there is a death place and date I always wonder how prisoners were treated once incarcerated. There are not many records listing deaths so I hope this guy came to prison in pretty bad shape, hence his death while there. Unfortunately, his bio puts to rest the reason for his death in prison. Also, there is a box in all these records that I have never seen filled in before this. This record shows the name Müller, Leonhard in the box which is titled "Lit". I have no idea what Lit stands for and assume it to be an abbreviation of some sort but wonder who Leonhard Müller is and how he is connected to Jean Josef Jansen. Marvin Hoerig in WI Name-------------------Jansen, Jean Josef Birth Date ------------- 00.00.1825 Birth Place------------ Death Date ------------ 20.10.1849 Death Place ----------- Rastatt Record----------------- 40000022085 Number---------------- 15882 Name Variation-------- Janzen Residence------------- Köln Profession------------- Geometer Sex--------------------- m Nationality------------- D Age--------------------- 24 Year Incarcerated----- 1849 Country of Origin----- Preußen Region----------------- Revolutionary Army--Militia----------------- Single------------------ Married---------------- Biography------------- Bei der Mannheimer Volkswehr (65 / 11597*: 55). Im Juni 1849 als Adjutant in Hohensachsen (276 / 3417: 166). Am 21. und 22. Juni 1849 mit der Mannheimer Volkswehr in Ladenburg (N Mone Nr. 26*: 87). Die Behörden wollten im Juni 'auf Jansen das Hauptaugenmerk richten' (234 / 10210*: 7). Am 15. Juli 1849 als politischer 'Rebell' im Gefängnis in Heidelberg (236 / 8561*: 14). Gefangener im Rastatter Fort A, wegen Kriegsverrats am 14. August 1849 vom Standgericht zum Tod durch Erschießen verurteilt und am 20. Oktober 1849 um sieben Uhr morgens erschossen (65 / 11597*: 55; N Mone Nr. 26*: 87, 96-97, 177, 180, 186-187, 193 f, Nr. 28: 37, 102). -------------------------------------------------- From: "Elizabeth" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 3:05 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BW] RE Raab Index > Hello Marvin, > > Can you give me the details for Jean Joseph Jansen please. > > Elizabeth >

Thank you so much for the information. Maybe I can find something that makes a connection. You are great! Thanks for all you do. Ellen -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marvin Hoerig Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 7:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BW] Wenz - Wekum Ellen, I hope there is a clue for you in these. Marvin Hoerig in WI Name------------------- Wenz, Georg Birth Place------------ Record----------------- 40000050790 Number---------------- 36416 Name Variation--------Wentz Residence------------- Pforzheim Profession------------- Goldarbeiter Sex--------------------- m Nationality------------- D Age--------------------- Year Incarcerated----- 1849 Country of Origin----- Baden Region----------------- Pforzheim Revolutionary Army--Militia----------------- Yes Single------------------ Married---------------- Biography------------- Bei der Bürgerwehr und der Rathauswache (171 / 2378*: 326, 436; 171 / 2380*: 522). Teilnehmer am Rathaustumult (171 / 2381*: 172, 190, 210-211; 171 / 2380*: 475). Revolutionsteilnehmer, bis 1850 noch kein Urteil erlassen (237 / 2699: 48). Untersuchung wegen Hochverrats mit Urteil des Hofgerichts Bruchsal vom 7. Juni 1850 ausgesetzt (237 / 16844*, 16845). Nach Angaben vom 4. Dezember 1851 kein Grund zur strafrechtlicher Verfolgung vorhanden (237 / 2748: 6, 37-38). Name-------------------Wenz, Johann Birth Place------------ Record----------------- 40000050795 Number---------------- 36419 Name Variation-------- Residence------------- Hohenwettersbach Profession------------- Sex--------------------- m Nationality------------- D Age--------------------- Year Incarcerated----- 1849 Country of Origin----- Baden Region----------------- Durlach Revolutionary Army--Militia----------------- Single------------------ Married---------------- Biography------------- Im August 1849 als politischer Gefangener aufgeführt (236 / 8561*: 98). Name------------------- Wenz, Johann Birth Place------------ Record----------------- 40000050796 Number---------------- 36420 Name Variation-------- Residence------------- Munzingen Profession------------- Militär, Soldat Sex--------------------- m Nationality------------- D Age--------------------- Year Incarcerated----- 1849 Country of Origin----- Baden Region----------------- Freiburg, Land Revolutionary Army-- YesMilitia----------------- Single------------------ Married---------------- Biography------------- Soldat des 3. Infanterie-Regiments. 'Hat in Gemeinschaft mit den Soldaten Mohr, Doll, Sommer und Burkhard an Weihnachten 1848 an ihren Kompaniekommandanten, den Hauptmann Villiez, einen anonymen Brief mit Schmähungen und Drohungen geschrieben, wurde hierwegen in Untersuchung gezogen und in Lörrach verhaftet, beim Soldatenaufstand befreit, verfolgte hierauf treugebliebene Soldaten, namentlich diejenigen, welche gegen ihn gezeugt haben und bewirkte zugleich die Absetzung des Hauptmanns v. Villiez durch die Meuterer' (233 / 31153: 270-272). Am 29. Juli 1849 Gefangener im Rastatter Fort C (49 / 2410*: 38). Wegen Meuterei und 'Treulosigkeit' am 16. April 1850 vom Kriegsgericht in Rastatt zu dreizehn Jahren Zuchthaus verurteilt (237 / 2788: 56-57; 237 / 2826: 7-8, 44-46; 233 / 31153: 270-272). Wegen Entschädigung. Nach Angaben vom März/ April 1851 Häftling in der Strafanstalt Freiburg (269 Zug. 1952 / 39 Nr. 18: 11, 17, 48). Am 22. April 1851 zur Auswanderung begnadigt (233 / 31153: 270-272). Am 30. Mai 1851 noch in Haft (269 Zug. 1927 / 30 Nr. 1: 60). Eltern: Leopold Wenz und Josepha Hartenbach (237 / 2776*: 65-66). Name------------------- Wenz, Johann Michael Birth Place------------ Paimar Birth Date ------------ 27.04.1813 Record-----------------40000050797 Number---------------- 36421 Name Variation-------- Wanz Residence------------- Buchen Other Residence------ Stein, Neudenau Profession------------- Geistlicher, kath. Sex--------------------- m Nationality------------- D Age--------------------- 36 Year Incarcerated----- Country of Origin----- Baden Region----------------- Buchen Revolutionary Army--Militia----------------- Single------------------ Married---------------- Biography------------- Pfarrverweser in Buchen. Vor der Revolution Sprecher bzw. Vorstand des Volksvereins in Stein (298 / 13: 17; 236 / 8208*: 169-170; 364 / 540: 49, 55; 236 / 8509*: 32). 'Hat am 13. Mai 1849 öffentlich in der Kirche von der Kanzel herab eine revolutionäre Rede gehalten und dabei zum Kampf gegen die Fürsten aufgefordert' (69 v. Freydorf Nr. 117: 34; 235 / 247*: 8-9, 19; 236 / 8535*: 133-134; 236 / 8510*: 7; 236 / 8537*: 278; 236 / 8535*: 133-134). 'Hat am 22. Juni 1849 die Herbeiziehung eines zuverlässigen Aufgebots vorgeschlagen, um die Buchener zum Mitziehen in den Kampf zu zwingen und den Preußen in den Rücken zu fallen. Den Zurückbleibenden sollten die Häuser angezündet werden' (69 v. Freydorf Nr. 117: 34). Nach Angaben vom 23. August 1849 in Haft (236 / 8535*: 133-134). Mannheimer Standgerichtsakten gegen Priester Wenz von Buchen wegen Aufforderung zum Hochverrat und zum Widerstand gegen die bewaffnete Macht (69 v. Freydorf Nr. 128). Fall gemäß Erlaß vom 27. Oktober 1849 nicht mehr beim Standgericht Mannheim verhandelt (69 v. Freydorf Nr. 117: 18). In gerichtlicher Untersuchung (234 / 1409*: 85-86; 235 / 247*: 8-9, 19). Wegen Auswanderung (234 / 10215*: 386). Nach Angaben vom 9. Dezember 1849 festgenommen (236 / 8577*: 35). Untersuchungsakten (298 / 12-13). Untersuchung durch das Bezirksamt Gerlachsheim. Am 18. Dezember 1849 wegen Rebellion und Hochverrats vom Hofgericht Mannheim zu einem Jahr Zuchthaus verurteilt (234 / 10209*: 60-61, 108; 237 / 2788: 10-11; 298 / 12: 95; 237 / 2710: 7-8; 237 / 16844*, 16845). Nach Angaben vom 15. Januar 1850 am letzten Aufstand beteiligt. Rekurs eingelegt (237 / 2710: 4, 7-8). Am 2. November 1850 vom Oberhofgericht für 'klagfrei' erklärt (234 / 10209*: 352; 237 / 2825: 3; 298 / 12: 174; 237 / 16844*, 16845). Name------------------- Wenz, Peter Birth Place------------ Record----------------- 40000050801 Number---------------- 36425 Name Variation-------- Residence------------- Graben Profession------------- Militär, Soldat Sex-------------------- m Nationality------------- D Age--------------------- Year Incarcerated-----1849 Country of Origin----- Baden Region----------------- Karlsruhe, Land Revolutionary Army-- YesMilitia----------------- Single------------------ Married---------------- Biography------------- Pionier in der 6. Kompanie des 2. Regiments, ab 29. Juli 1849 als Gefangener im Rastatter Fort A aufgeführt (49 / 2410*: 20). -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ellen Schmand" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 11:58 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BW] Wenz - Wekum > Thank you for the information. Is there further information for > Georg, Johann, Johann Michael or Peter? I am trying to find a > connection from Russia to Germany and haven't gotten past the Wentz family in about 1819. > Thanks, > Ellen > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kathy, There are no Löttmann's on the list and no George Heinrich Reiss, but here are two Reißs for you to choose from. Marvin Hoerig in WI Name------------------ Reiß, Georg Birth Place------------ Record----------------- 40000037392 Number---------------- 26338 Name Variation-------- Residence------------- Wallbach Profession------------- Sex-------------------- m Nationality------------- D Age--------------------- Year Incarcerated----- 1849 Country of Origin----- Baden Region----------------- Säckingen Revolutionary Army--YesMilitia----------------- Single------------------ Married---------------- Biography------------- Am 25. Juni 1849 von der Generalkriegskasse 194 Gulden ausbezahlt (237 / 2783: 7). Name------------------- Reiß, Heinrich Birth Place------------ Record----------------- 40000037393 Number---------------- 26339 Name Variation-------- Residence------------- Philippsburg Profession------------- Sex--------------------- m Nationality------------- D Age--------------------- Year Incarcerated----- 1849 Country of Origin----- Baden Region----------------- Philippsburg Revolutionary Army--Militia----------------- Yes Single------------------ Married---------------- Biography------------- Nach Angaben vom 14. Mai 1849 Befürworter der Waffenbeschaffung für die Bürgerwehr in Philippsburg (344 / 6: 103). -------------------------------------------------- From: "Kathy Cochran" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 10:45 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BW] Raab Index - George Heinrich Reiss > Any possibility of finding a name like this on the Raab Index? > > Also, any Löttmann's? > > > Thanks in advance, > > Kathy > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Linn, There are neither a Peter nor Jacob Steiner on the list. Marvin Hoerig in WI Name------------------- Stahler, Peter Birth Place------------- Death Date------------- 20.09.1849 Death Place------------ Rastatt Record-----------------40000045800 Number---------------- 32490 Name Variation-------- Pahler ? Residence------------- Rödersheim Profession------------- Sex--------------------- m Nationality------------- D Age--------------------- Year Incarcerated----- 1849 Country of Origin----- Bayern Region----------------- Pfalz Revolutionary Army--Militia----------------- Single------------------ Married---------------- Biography------------- Gefangener im Rastatter Fort B; am 20. September 1849 gestorben (N Mone Nr. 28*: 80). -------------------------------------------------- From: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 9:47 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [BW] Stahler/Steiner > > Hello Marvin: > Yes Peter Stahler would be mine. As for Steiner's I am looking > for > Peter Steiner and Jacob Steiner. Thank you so much for all you are > doing. > Walk in peace, > Linn > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you, Elsie the surname localization site is good to have. Our church records weren't very informative, but I keep chipping away. Hope someone else is helped by all this. [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: saare <[email protected]> To: baden-wurttemberg <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Mar 27, 2012 6:57 pm Subject: Re: [BW] reading the old German script Ellen, sorry, no help here except look also for Fischer and Vischer. I have hem with both spellings in the Geislingen/Goeppingen areas in Donaukreis. I ooked at the surname distribution maps http://pricegen.com/localizesurname.htm) for current people in Germany and ischers are EVERYWHERE! So no help there. Foxes (Fuchs) are not quite as ommon but everywhere as well. Marriage certificates for the children might eveal where the parents were born but you probably have looked there as ell. The church books for the baptism of their children might reveal their ometowns. In the church records of our German Lutheran church, the minister rote down all the hometowns. Wonderful collection of records. Death ertificates also can reveal hometowns as you know, along with later bituaries. I added all this for other people who may be interested. ood luck, Ellen. lsie -----Original Message----- rom: [email protected] ent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 6:19 PM o: [email protected] ubject: Re: [BW] reading the old German script e always have a brick wall or two to climb, Elsie. Sounds like you are oing wonderfully well. I have been doing enealogy for fourty odd years and have a few brick walls, but my Dad's erman background has been really hard o solve. I have a little information on my 3rd great-grandfather, Philip roff/Graeff and a little more on his wife, my 3rd reat-grandmother, Joanna Elisabetha Gintz. y Wurttemberg brick walls are Joseph Fox/Fuchs/Fose (have seen records in hio with all spellings) who was orn in 1820 in Wurttemberg. His wife, Francizka/Frances Fisher was also orn in Wurttemberg in 1822. They ame to Ohio between 1850 and 1853. y Dad's genealogy is 100 percent German, no bits of anything except before oming to Germany very, very arly on may have been from Switzerland. hank you for your time and helpfulness, Elsie, I really appreciate it ecause you never know when something ew could turn up. ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Happy for you, Kathy. Sending messages in German was great thinking. Worth a try for sure. [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Cochran <[email protected]> To: baden-wurttemberg <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Mar 27, 2012 6:29 pm Subject: Re: [BW] reading the old German script I would like to report that I also have had great luck with Geneanet. - the ree version! Thru it I recently located a 7th cousin 1x removed who took my iffels family back to the early 1600's in Wadenheim, Ahrweiler, heinland-Pfalz, Prussia. I was ecstatic! She doesn't speak a lot of English, o I have utilized Google Translate to send her my messages in German. We have one okay by this method! Good luck! Kathy in San Andreas, California -----Original Message----- rom: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] n Behalf Of [email protected] ent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 2:49 PM o: [email protected]; [email protected] ubject: Re: [BW] reading the old German script i Laura, thank you for the suggestions. Will see if I can find anything new. ave used severalGerman genealogy sites over the years and found very little on he Wurttemberg families the Fox/Fuchs and Fishers, had justa little better luck ith my Rhineland-Pfalz families, Graeff and Gintz.Again I appreciate your time nd the good ideas. Thank you.Ellen [email protected] -----Original Message-----From: Ronald and Laura Bozzay <[email protected]>To: aden-wurttemberg <[email protected]>Sent: Tue, Mar 27, 2012 4:30 mSubject: Re: [BW] reading the old German script I have several ideas for finding family in Germany when you do not know the town esied the LDS site everyone knows about): http://www.geneanet.org/?lang=en this is like the European version of otsweb trees. Having said that there can be incorrect data in user donated ees but they can point you to the right places to do the research. There is a ree side and a pay side. Start with the free side. Use the advanced search nd select Germany for the place to narrow down results. http://www.online-ofb.de/index.php select an area and go location by ocation ithin it to see if you can find your family. hese are the choices for aden-Württembergerlingen (70839), Weil im Schönbuch (71093), Schönaich (71101), teinenbronn 71144), Ditzingen (71240), Beutelsbach (71384), Oberriexingen 71739), aihingen an er Enz (71665), Plochingen (73201), Oberesslingen (737..), sslingen (737xx), rfeld (74736), Neibsheim/Bretten (75015), Spessart/Ettlingen 76275), inkenheim-Hochstetten (76351), Winterdorf (Rastatt) (76437), urmersheim 76448), Huttenheim Philippsburg) (76661), Ulmer Land (89xxx), llingen (89129), Neenstetten 89189), Reicholzheim (97877) his is a German site nd you will need to select Gesamtliste der amiliennamen" from the left hand ptions to open the area for an alphabetical isting of the family names for each ocation. pe this helps! ura ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 2:51 PMSubject: Re: BW] reading the old German script Elsie, I so admire all you have accomplished. ish I had a village or town in urttemberg to search for records.I have names, ears born and that they were born in Wurttemberg, had three hildren then mmigrated around1850 to 1853 to Ohio. Three children were born in Wurttemberg he last one in 850 and the next child was bornin Ohio in 1853. That is all I ave and after nearly 40 years I have not found hem anywhere, not in immigration istsor ships lists. Have gone searching for them in various areas of urttemberg o no avail.So I am happy for those of you who have had much better uck.Wistfully,Ellen [email protected] -----Original Message-----From: saare <[email protected]>To: baden-wurttemberg [email protected]>Sent: Tue, Mar 27, 2012 2:36 pmSubject: Re: [BW] eading the old German script The other resouce I love, in addition to the German alphabet, is Ernest hode's ook, German English Genealogical Dictionary. Without it, I would ot be able to igure out the occupations, calendars, diseases, holy ays,etc. As long as you an read part of the word, you can usually find it n the dictionary. I bought a opy for our local FHC. No connection to rnest, etc. Good luck everyone. The ermans were such excellent record eepers you can't afford to miss out. Give me shout if you need help.Elsie-----Original Message----- rom: [email protected]: Sunday, March 25, 2012 1:05 PMo: [email protected]: BW] reading the old German script Elsie, thanks so very much. This is very helpful. I have the book If I an ead German you can (brief) it is great. Thanks again for shaing. 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No you can't. If there are no church books where will you find him? And if you find a Johannes Schwenk in another village, that is no proof that this is yours. Johannes was a very common first name, about every third child was called Johannes or Hanns. Erika -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von David Kemle Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. März 2012 18:12 An: [email protected] Betreff: Re: [BW] need help Yes You can. For example, I have my ancestry back to 1558. On Familysearch.org you may find more ancestors related to your Johannes Scchwank. Or on Ancestry.com which has a 14 day free trial. David Kemle ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Swank<mailto:[email protected]> To: baden-wurttemberg<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:06 AM Subject: [BW] need help Hi. I have a question. I have found my Johannes Schwenk who died in Oberriexingen, Ludwigsburg, Wurttenburg, Germany in 1736. He was born about 1670. I found this information on www.online-ofb.de<http://www.online-ofb.de/> and have verified it with copies of the original records for the whole family. I have been told by the attendants at the Family History Lib. in Salt Lake City, Utah, that is about as far back as I can go. Is there a way to go back farther on my Johannes Schwenk family? I will thank you for any help that I get. Richard Swank in So. California [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected] sweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ellen, My Fuchs family came from the Neider Rimsingen Alt Breisah and Niederrimsingen, area of Baden.  It might give you an area to look in.  I haven't done a lot of research on them.  Cathy Claycamp   Researching: Claycamp, Gerlach, Grindle, Magin, Mersinger, Reader, Singleton ________________________________

Check this site: http://www.archiv.elk-wue.de/cms/startseite/kirchenbuchdatenbank/ klick on left "Kirchenbuchdatenbank" then in the middle "In der Kirchenbuchdatenbank recherchieren" start Ortsindex. There you find a register of all villages/cities in Wuerttemberg and their church books. Erika -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Teva Scheer Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. März 2012 18:46 An: [email protected] Betreff: Re: [BW] need help When the Family History Center told you that you couldn't go back any further in tracing your Schwank ancestors, they may have meant that they didn't have any films going back before that date. You can check that by going to the library catalog at familysearch.org. Or it may mean that any earlier records for your village were destroyed in one of the wars that ravaged the area, most likely the Thirty Years' War. Although Luther ordered the Evangelisch churches to begin to keep records in the mid-1500s, not all churches started at the exact same date; and not all the records have survived war, fire, insects, or other destruction. I would start by looking at the familysearch.org catalog. Beyond that, I would write to the Evangelisch church in your village and ask how early the surviving records go. Teva Scheer -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Kemle Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:12 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BW] need help Yes You can. For example, I have my ancestry back to 1558. On Familysearch.org you may find more ancestors related to your Johannes Scchwank. Or on Ancestry.com which has a 14 day free trial. David Kemle ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Swank<mailto:[email protected]> To: baden-wurttemberg<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:06 AM Subject: [BW] need help Hi. I have a question. I have found my Johannes Schwenk who died in Oberriexingen, Ludwigsburg, Wurttenburg, Germany in 1736. He was born about 1670. I found this information on www.online-ofb.de<http://www.online-ofb.de/> and have verified it with copies of the original records for the whole family. I have been told by the attendants at the Family History Lib. in Salt Lake City, Utah, that is about as far back as I can go. Is there a way to go back farther on my Johannes Schwenk family? I will thank you for any help that I get. Richard Swank in So. California [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected] sweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, go to Oberriexingen or check the State archives at Neuenstein Schloss (castle) in Neuenstein, Württemberg, Germany: http://www.anthonj.de/genealogen/wollmershaeuser/d/vortraege/Archive-BW.htm Good Luck! Craig > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:06:14 -0700 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [BW] need help > > Hi. > I have a question. I have found my Johannes Schwenk who died in > Oberriexingen, Ludwigsburg, Wurttenburg, Germany in 1736. He was born > about 1670. I found this information on www.online-ofb.de and have > verified it with copies of the original records for the whole family. I > have been told by the attendants at the Family History Lib. in Salt Lake > City, Utah, that is about as far back as I can go. Is there a way to go > back farther on my Johannes Schwenk family? > I will thank you for any help that I get. > Richard Swank in So. California [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ellen, sorry, no help here except look also for Fischer and Vischer. I have them with both spellings in the Geislingen/Goeppingen areas in Donaukreis. I looked at the surname distribution maps (http://pricegen.com/localizesurname.htm) for current people in Germany and Fischers are EVERYWHERE! So no help there. Foxes (Fuchs) are not quite as common but everywhere as well. Marriage certificates for the children might reveal where the parents were born but you probably have looked there as well. The church books for the baptism of their children might reveal their hometowns. In the church records of our German Lutheran church, the minister wrote down all the hometowns. Wonderful collection of records. Death certificates also can reveal hometowns as you know, along with later obituaries. I added all this for other people who may be interested. Good luck, Ellen. Elsie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 6:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BW] reading the old German script We always have a brick wall or two to climb, Elsie. Sounds like you are doing wonderfully well. I have been doing genealogy for fourty odd years and have a few brick walls, but my Dad's German background has been really hard to solve. I have a little information on my 3rd great-grandfather, Philip Groff/Graeff and a little more on his wife, my 3rd great-grandmother, Joanna Elisabetha Gintz. My Wurttemberg brick walls are Joseph Fox/Fuchs/Fose (have seen records in Ohio with all spellings) who was born in 1820 in Wurttemberg. His wife, Francizka/Frances Fisher was also born in Wurttemberg in 1822. They came to Ohio between 1850 and 1853. My Dad's genealogy is 100 percent German, no bits of anything except before coming to Germany very, very early on may have been from Switzerland. Thank you for your time and helpfulness, Elsie, I really appreciate it because you never know when something new could turn up.

Hi Richard, sorry, there is no way to go back further. The babtism book in Oberriexingen starts in 1670, marriage book and death book in 1727. There might have been books further back, but were lost somehow, or burned. . .nobody knows. Regards Erika -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Richard Swank Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. März 2012 18:06 An: baden-wurttemberg Betreff: [BW] need help Hi. I have a question. I have found my Johannes Schwenk who died in Oberriexingen, Ludwigsburg, Wurttenburg, Germany in 1736. He was born about 1670. I found this information on www.online-ofb.de and have verified it with copies of the original records for the whole family. I have been told by the attendants at the Family History Lib. in Salt Lake City, Utah, that is about as far back as I can go. Is there a way to go back farther on my Johannes Schwenk family? I will thank you for any help that I get. Richard Swank in So. California [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for this valuable search aide, Erika. I was unaware of it. Elsie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BW] need help Check this site: http://www.archiv.elk-wue.de/cms/startseite/kirchenbuchdatenbank/ klick on left "Kirchenbuchdatenbank" then in the middle "In der Kirchenbuchdatenbank recherchieren" start Ortsindex. There you find a register of all villages/cities in Wuerttemberg and their church books. Erika -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Teva Scheer Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. März 2012 18:46 An: [email protected] Betreff: Re: [BW] need help When the Family History Center told you that you couldn't go back any further in tracing your Schwank ancestors, they may have meant that they didn't have any films going back before that date. You can check that by going to the library catalog at familysearch.org. Or it may mean that any earlier records for your village were destroyed in one of the wars that ravaged the area, most likely the Thirty Years' War. Although Luther ordered the Evangelisch churches to begin to keep records in the mid-1500s, not all churches started at the exact same date; and not all the records have survived war, fire, insects, or other destruction. I would start by looking at the familysearch.org catalog. Beyond that, I would write to the Evangelisch church in your village and ask how early the surviving records go. Teva Scheer -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Kemle Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:12 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BW] need help Yes You can. For example, I have my ancestry back to 1558. On Familysearch.org you may find more ancestors related to your Johannes Scchwank. Or on Ancestry.com which has a 14 day free trial. David Kemle ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Swank<mailto:[email protected]> To: baden-wurttemberg<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:06 AM Subject: [BW] need help Hi. I have a question. I have found my Johannes Schwenk who died in Oberriexingen, Ludwigsburg, Wurttenburg, Germany in 1736. He was born about 1670. I found this information on www.online-ofb.de<http://www.online-ofb.de/> and have verified it with copies of the original records for the whole family. I have been told by the attendants at the Family History Lib. in Salt Lake City, Utah, that is about as far back as I can go. Is there a way to go back farther on my Johannes Schwenk family? I will thank you for any help that I get. Richard Swank in So. California [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected] sweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message