This is great news, Marvin. Some villages/towns to investigate. My Joseph didn't come to America until between 1850 and 1853, so it's a chance. Really appreciate the help. Thanks a bunch, Marvin. [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Marvin Hoerig <[email protected]> To: baden-wurttemberg <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Mar 30, 2012 2:07 pm Subject: Re: [BW] Fox/Fuchs Michael (I think) There are no Fox or Conrad Fuchs. There are 7 Josef Fuchs. they are from: euhausen izenhausen ronau alschenberg ollmatingen ünstertal iederrimsingen Keep in mind that these are supposed residences at time of incarceration. Marvin Hoerig in WI ------------------------------------------------ rom: <[email protected]> ent: Friday, March 30, 2012 10:58 AM o: <[email protected]> ubject: Re: [BW] Kunz > Are there any Fox, Fuchs on the list, Joseph or Conrad or just any? Thank you, Marvin for your time. [email protected] ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

e.V.: Eingetragener Verein (German: Registered Association) The "V" is capitalized because all nouns are capitalized in German. -S Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 10:48:10 -0400 From: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BW] e. V. Always wondered what e.V. meant. Can someone explain it to me? Thank you, Elsie > He is a member of the Arbeitskreis Heimatpflege > Regierungsbezirk Karlsruhe e.V.

Max No Stufts - 7 Jakob Haas & 1 Johann Jakob Haas Marvin Hoerig in WI -------------------------------------------------- From: "Max Burgdorf" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 1:12 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [BW] Raab List > > > BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; } > Johann Stuft > > Jacob Haas > > Are either of these 2 men on the list? Thank you. > >

BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; } Johann Stuft Jacob Haas Are either of these 2 men on the list? Thank you.

Darlene, No Fred - one Georg & one Konrad. Also one Nikolai but he didn't admit to a given name. Marvin Hoerig in WI -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gary and Darlene Odenwalder" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 12:18 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BW] Odenwalders/Odenwald > Thank you so much Marvin > > I have one more his name is > Friedrich Nickolai > > Darlene

Michael (I think) There are no Fox or Conrad Fuchs. There are 7 Josef Fuchs. they are from: Neuhausen Zizenhausen Kronau Malschenberg Wollmatingen Münstertal Niederrimsingen Keep in mind that these are supposed residences at time of incarceration. Marvin Hoerig in WI ------------------------------------------------- From: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 10:58 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BW] Kunz > > Are there any Fox, Fuchs on the list, Joseph or Conrad or just any? Thank > you, > Marvin for your time. > > > [email protected] >

Thank you again!! On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Marvin Hoerig <[email protected]> wrote: > Darlene, > > No Fred - one Georg & one Konrad. Also one Nikolai but he didn't admit to > a > given name. > > Marvin Hoerig in WI > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Gary and Darlene Odenwalder" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 12:18 PM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [BW] Odenwalders/Odenwald > > > Thank you so much Marvin > > > > I have one more his name is > > Friedrich Nickolai > > > > Darlene > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Well done too, Marvin. Thank you. [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Marvin Hoerig <[email protected]> To: baden-wurttemberg <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Mar 30, 2012 10:47 am Subject: Re: [BW] RE Raba Index Craig, I don't list it because it is so seldom used. If the Lit box has an entry, add it to the standard list I send out. There are 36 boxes in each records plus a bio box. The majority of those oxes are never used. If there is an entry in a box on a record, I add it o my list for the person requesting info. I even include obvious errors ike, MARRIED - "Yes", followed by SINGLE - "Yes" (fortunately neither of hese two boxes are used very often) Most often I do not know if listed nformation is of value or not (hence all the numbers in the bio) but I lways include everything in the hopes that therein may lie that elusive lue that will help someone out. Marvin Hoerig in WI ------------------------------------------ rom: "Craig Gauger" <[email protected]> ent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 5:23 PM o: "B-W Roots Web" <[email protected]> ubject: Re: [BW] RE Raba Index > Marvin, Where is this "Lit" and mention of Müller, Leonhard? I don't see it on the record. C > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:20:06 -0500 > Subject: Re: [BW] RE Raba Index > > Craig, > > I have no more than the list itself and have no idea where information > can > be found for the referenced page numbers. Most, if not all records have > some sort of pages referenced in the bios. > > As I mentioned to Elizabeth, on her Jean Jose Jansen record the name > Leonhard Müller noted in a box labeled "Lit". This box seldom has had an > entry and I have only seen it a few times. I hesitate to mention it when > it > does occur because I can't explain it to people when they question it's > meaning. I like to include everything when I answer requests but this > "Lit" > entry has me puzzled. Can you explain what it could be ? > > Marvin Hoerig in WI > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Craig Gauger" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 5:37 AM > To: "B-W Roots Web" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [BW] RE Raab Index > > > > > It also states he was a political rebel and wanted for quite some time. > > In June 1849 he was with a Mannheim resistance group and as Adjutant > > for > > Hochsachsen. On 15 July 1849 he was imprisoned at Heidelberg as a > > political rebel. On 14 August 1849 he was a prisoner at the Rastatter > > Fort A because of a war betrayal. > > > > Though this biography in German below is short, he probably believed he > > and his comrades were patriots against an unjust enemy. > > > > I'm guessing there is more to read by the references to page numbers in > > the text. I don't know if Marvin has any more knowledge as to where > > these > > can be viewed. C > > > > > > > >> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 19:14:26 +1100 > >> From: [email protected] > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [BW] RE Raab Index > >> > >> Hello Craig, > >> > >> Thank you, a sad ending for Jean Josef Jansen. > >> > >> Elizabeth > >> > >> On 29/03/2012 1:04 PM, Craig Gauger wrote: > >> > > >> > It states in the German text that he was shot at 7 am on 20 Oct > >> > 1849. > >> > > >> > > >> >> From: [email protected] > >> >> To: [email protected] > >> >> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:46:16 -0500 > >> >> Subject: Re: [BW] RE Raab Index > >> >> > >> >> Elizabeth, > >> >> > >> >> This is one of the most complete records I have seen. Whenever > >> >> there > >> >> is a > >> >> death place and date I always wonder how prisoners were treated > >> >> once > >> >> incarcerated. There are not many records listing deaths so I hope > >> >> this > >> >> guy > >> >> came to prison in pretty bad shape, hence his death while there. > >> >> Unfortunately, his bio puts to rest the reason for his death in > >> >> prison. > >> >> > >> >> Also, there is a box in all these records that I have never seen > >> >> filled in > >> >> before this. This record shows the name in the box > >> >> which > >> >> is titled "Lit". I have no idea what Lit stands for and assume it > >> >> to > >> >> be an > >> >> abbreviation of some sort but wonder who Leonhard Müller is and how > >> >> he > >> >> is > >> >> connected to Jean Josef Jansen. > >> >> > >> >> Marvin Hoerig in WI > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Name-------------------Jansen, Jean Josef > >> >> Birth Date ------------- 00.00.1825 > >> >> Birth Place------------ > >> >> Death Date ------------ 20.10.1849 > >> >> Death Place ----------- Rastatt > >> >> Record----------------- 40000022085 > >> >> Number---------------- 15882 > >> >> Name Variation-------- Janzen > >> >> Residence------------- Köln > >> >> Profession------------- Geometer > >> >> Sex--------------------- m > >> >> Nationality------------- D > >> >> Age--------------------- 24 > >> >> Year Incarcerated----- 1849 > >> >> Country of Origin----- Preußen > >> >> Region----------------- > >> >> Revolutionary Army--Militia----------------- > >> >> Single------------------ > >> >> Married---------------- > >> >> Biography------------- Bei der Mannheimer Volkswehr (65 / 11597*: > >> >> 55). > >> >> Im > >> >> Juni 1849 als Adjutant in Hohensachsen (276 / 3417: 166). Am 21. > >> >> und > >> >> 22. > >> >> Juni 1849 mit der Mannheimer Volkswehr in Ladenburg (N Mone Nr. > >> >> 26*: > >> >> 87). > >> >> Die Behörden wollten im Juni 'auf Jansen das Hauptaugenmerk > >> >> richten' > >> >> (234 / > >> >> 10210*: 7). Am 15. Juli 1849 als politischer 'Rebell' im Gefängnis > >> >> in > >> >> Heidelberg (236 / 8561*: 14). Gefangener im Rastatter Fort A, wegen > >> >> Kriegsverrats am 14. August 1849 vom Standgericht zum Tod durch > >> >> Erschießen > >> >> verurteilt und am 20. Oktober 1849 um sieben Uhr morgens erschossen > >> >> (65 / > >> >> 11597*: 55; N Mone Nr. 26*: 87, 96-97, 177, 180, 186-187, 193 f, > >> >> Nr. > >> >> 28: 37, > >> >> 102). > >> >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Are there any Fox, Fuchs on the list, Joseph or Conrad or just any? Thank you, Marvin for your time. [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Marvin Hoerig <[email protected]> To: baden-wurttemberg <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Mar 30, 2012 11:26 am Subject: Re: [BW] Kunz Michael, Not a whole lot. All were male, German, and incarcerated in 1849. Marvin Hoerig in WI > Christian Kunz - residence Schutterzell, Baden bio Der Beteiligung am Struveaufstand im September 1848 beschuldigt (305 / 3: 71). Johann Kunz - residence Schlossau, Baden a Militär Soldat in the > Revolutionary Army io Soldat der 11. Kompanie des 3. Infanterie-Regiments, ab Juli 1849 efangener im Rastatter Fort C (49 / 2410*: 36 Johann Kunz - residence Niedereschach, Baden member of the Militia io 1849 Zugmeister des Aufgebots von Niedereschach (StAF B 748 / 1 Nr. 27: 35). ------------------------------------------------- rom: "Michael Kountz" <[email protected]> ent: Friday, March 30, 2012 4:53 AM o: "Marvin Hoerig" <[email protected]> ubject: Re: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request > No worries, Kuntzi is very rarely seen outside of Switzerland from what I'm told. I am curious about the three names you mentioned in our previous correspondence; do you have any more information on them, or only what you've provided? I will list them below: Christian Kunz - residence Schutterzell, Baden Johann Kunz - residence Schlossau, Baden a Militär Soldat in the Revolutionary Army Johann Kunz - residence Niedereschach, Baden member of the Militia Thank you again. I bet you are swamped with work from all the requests you're getting. It really is a wonderful thing that you're doing. I tried to find a copy of that book myself, and couldn't find one for under 200 dollars. Thank you, -Michael On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Marvin Hoerig <[email protected]> wrote: > Michael, > There are no Kuntzi prisoners listed. > > Marvin Hoerig in WI > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Michael Kountz" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:01 AM > To: "Marvin Hoerig" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request > > >> Marvin, >> I wonder if you could send me the info on these three men. There >> might be a clue in what you have that would help me either connect to >> one of them or rule them all out. I have also recently found out the >> the original spelling in Baden of our surname could have been Kuntzi. >> Do you have anybody on the list with that surname? John Christian >> Kuntzi, or even a Philip Kuntzi (we believe that to be John >> s father). >> Thank you. >> >> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Marvin Hoerig <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> Michael, >>> >>> > ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Thank you so much Marvin I have one more his name is Friedrich Nickolai Darlene On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Marvin Hoerig <[email protected]> wrote: > Darlene > > There are no Odenwalders on the list but I did find a Georg Odenwald. > > Marvin Hoerig in WI > > Name--------------------- Odenwald, Georg > Birth Place--------------- > Record------------------- 40000034900 > Number------------------- 24923 > Name Variation---------- > Residence---------------- Kaltenbrunn > Profession---------------- Militär, Soldat > Sex------------------------ m > Nationality---------------- D > Age------------------------ > Year Incarcerated--------- 1849 > Country of Origin--------- Baden > Region--------------------- Walldürn > Revolutionary Army------ Yes > Militia---------------------- > Single----------------------- > Married--------------------- > Biography------------------ Soldat der 5. Kompanie des 2. Regiments, ab > Juli 1849 Gefangener im Rastatter Fort A (49 / 2410*: 14). > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Gary and Darlene Odenwalder" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:36 PM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [BW] BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, RAAB Index Lookup Request > > > Marvin > > > > Can you please look for the name of Odenwalder (George Peter) > > > > Thank you > > > > Darlene > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Always wondered what e.V. meant. Can someone explain it to me? Thank you, Elsie > He is a member of the Arbeitskreis Heimatpflege > Regierungsbezirk Karlsruhe e.V.

Michael, Not a whole lot. All were male, German, and incarcerated in 1849. Marvin Hoerig in WI > Christian Kunz - residence Schutterzell, Baden bio Der Beteiligung am Struveaufstand im September 1848 beschuldigt (305 / 73: 71). > Johann Kunz - residence Schlossau, Baden a Militär Soldat in the > > Revolutionary Army bio Soldat der 11. Kompanie des 3. Infanterie-Regiments, ab Juli 1849 Gefangener im Rastatter Fort C (49 / 2410*: 36 > Johann Kunz - residence Niedereschach, Baden member of the Militia bio 1849 Zugmeister des Aufgebots von Niedereschach (StAF B 748 / 1 Nr. 27: 235). -------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Kountz" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 4:53 AM To: "Marvin Hoerig" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request > No worries, Kuntzi is very rarely seen outside of Switzerland from > what I'm told. I am curious about the three names you mentioned in > our previous correspondence; do you have any more information on them, > or only what you've provided? I will list them below: > > Christian Kunz - residence Schutterzell, Baden > Johann Kunz - residence Schlossau, Baden a Militär Soldat in the > Revolutionary Army > Johann Kunz - residence Niedereschach, Baden member of the Militia > > Thank you again. I bet you are swamped with work from all the > requests you're getting. It really is a wonderful thing that you're > doing. I tried to find a copy of that book myself, and couldn't find > one for under 200 dollars. > Thank you, > -Michael > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Marvin Hoerig <[email protected]> wrote: >> Michael, >> There are no Kuntzi prisoners listed. >> >> Marvin Hoerig in WI >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Michael Kountz" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:01 AM >> To: "Marvin Hoerig" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-request >> >> >>> Marvin, >>> I wonder if you could send me the info on these three men. There >>> might be a clue in what you have that would help me either connect to >>> one of them or rule them all out. I have also recently found out the >>> the original spelling in Baden of our surname could have been Kuntzi. >>> Do you have anybody on the list with that surname? John Christian >>> Kuntzi, or even a Philip Kuntzi (we believe that to be John >>> s father). >>> Thank you. >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Marvin Hoerig <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Michael, >>>> >>>> >>

Forgive my ignorance of much of the history of the 1848-49 revolution in Baden; but is Rastatt unusual in having such a prison set up? If there were other similar revolutionary prisons set up throughout Baden-Wurttenburg, I would think access to those records would be equally valuable to what Marvin is providing here.  But the RAAB list is the only such list, and the only such prison, that I'm aware of. Or was Rastatt perhaps the epicenter of the revolution? I guess I don't know how far the revolution extended across Germany. My impression was that it played out in all of the German states, but perhaps I am mistaken. -Stuart Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 08:23:18 -0500 From: "Marvin Hoerig" <[email protected]> To: "Patricia Stasch" <[email protected]>,     <[email protected]> Patricia, Thank you so much for your clarification on the "Lit" found in these records. These records very seldom list death dates and places.  When a death is listed as 1848 or 1849 and the place of death is Rastatt, the bio for that prisoner often, but not always,  indicates that he was executed.  When death dates are for years beyond '48 & '49,  I often wonder if that person was held past 1849.  With your info on the meaning of Lit, I now wonder if Raab entered death info. that he retrieved from another source when compiling this list.  I have often see bios listing info that almost surly was gleaned from a source other than prison records. Marvin Hoerig in WI

Craig, I don't list it because it is so seldom used. If the Lit box has an entry, I add it to the standard list I send out. There are 36 boxes in each records plus a bio box. The majority of those boxes are never used. If there is an entry in a box on a record, I add it to my list for the person requesting info. I even include obvious errors like, MARRIED - "Yes", followed by SINGLE - "Yes" (fortunately neither of these two boxes are used very often) Most often I do not know if listed information is of value or not (hence all the numbers in the bio) but I always include everything in the hopes that therein may lie that elusive clue that will help someone out. Marvin Hoerig in WI ------------------------------------------ From: "Craig Gauger" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 5:23 PM To: "B-W Roots Web" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BW] RE Raba Index > > Marvin, Where is this "Lit" and mention of Müller, Leonhard? I don't > see it on the record. C > > >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:20:06 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [BW] RE Raba Index >> >> Craig, >> >> I have no more than the list itself and have no idea where information >> can >> be found for the referenced page numbers. Most, if not all records have >> some sort of pages referenced in the bios. >> >> As I mentioned to Elizabeth, on her Jean Jose Jansen record the name >> Leonhard Müller noted in a box labeled "Lit". This box seldom has had an >> entry and I have only seen it a few times. I hesitate to mention it when >> it >> does occur because I can't explain it to people when they question it's >> meaning. I like to include everything when I answer requests but this >> "Lit" >> entry has me puzzled. Can you explain what it could be ? >> >> Marvin Hoerig in WI >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Craig Gauger" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 5:37 AM >> To: "B-W Roots Web" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [BW] RE Raab Index >> >> > >> > It also states he was a political rebel and wanted for quite some time. >> > In June 1849 he was with a Mannheim resistance group and as Adjutant >> > for >> > Hochsachsen. On 15 July 1849 he was imprisoned at Heidelberg as a >> > political rebel. On 14 August 1849 he was a prisoner at the Rastatter >> > Fort A because of a war betrayal. >> > >> > Though this biography in German below is short, he probably believed he >> > and his comrades were patriots against an unjust enemy. >> > >> > I'm guessing there is more to read by the references to page numbers in >> > the text. I don't know if Marvin has any more knowledge as to where >> > these >> > can be viewed. C >> > >> > >> > >> >> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 19:14:26 +1100 >> >> From: [email protected] >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Subject: Re: [BW] RE Raab Index >> >> >> >> Hello Craig, >> >> >> >> Thank you, a sad ending for Jean Josef Jansen. >> >> >> >> Elizabeth >> >> >> >> On 29/03/2012 1:04 PM, Craig Gauger wrote: >> >> > >> >> > It states in the German text that he was shot at 7 am on 20 Oct >> >> > 1849. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> From: [email protected] >> >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> >> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:46:16 -0500 >> >> >> Subject: Re: [BW] RE Raab Index >> >> >> >> >> >> Elizabeth, >> >> >> >> >> >> This is one of the most complete records I have seen. Whenever >> >> >> there >> >> >> is a >> >> >> death place and date I always wonder how prisoners were treated >> >> >> once >> >> >> incarcerated. There are not many records listing deaths so I hope >> >> >> this >> >> >> guy >> >> >> came to prison in pretty bad shape, hence his death while there. >> >> >> Unfortunately, his bio puts to rest the reason for his death in >> >> >> prison. >> >> >> >> >> >> Also, there is a box in all these records that I have never seen >> >> >> filled in >> >> >> before this. This record shows the name in the box >> >> >> which >> >> >> is titled "Lit". I have no idea what Lit stands for and assume it >> >> >> to >> >> >> be an >> >> >> abbreviation of some sort but wonder who Leonhard Müller is and how >> >> >> he >> >> >> is >> >> >> connected to Jean Josef Jansen. >> >> >> >> >> >> Marvin Hoerig in WI >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Name-------------------Jansen, Jean Josef >> >> >> Birth Date ------------- 00.00.1825 >> >> >> Birth Place------------ >> >> >> Death Date ------------ 20.10.1849 >> >> >> Death Place ----------- Rastatt >> >> >> Record----------------- 40000022085 >> >> >> Number---------------- 15882 >> >> >> Name Variation-------- Janzen >> >> >> Residence------------- Köln >> >> >> Profession------------- Geometer >> >> >> Sex--------------------- m >> >> >> Nationality------------- D >> >> >> Age--------------------- 24 >> >> >> Year Incarcerated----- 1849 >> >> >> Country of Origin----- Preußen >> >> >> Region----------------- >> >> >> Revolutionary Army--Militia----------------- >> >> >> Single------------------ >> >> >> Married---------------- >> >> >> Biography------------- Bei der Mannheimer Volkswehr (65 / 11597*: >> >> >> 55). >> >> >> Im >> >> >> Juni 1849 als Adjutant in Hohensachsen (276 / 3417: 166). Am 21. >> >> >> und >> >> >> 22. >> >> >> Juni 1849 mit der Mannheimer Volkswehr in Ladenburg (N Mone Nr. >> >> >> 26*: >> >> >> 87). >> >> >> Die Behörden wollten im Juni 'auf Jansen das Hauptaugenmerk >> >> >> richten' >> >> >> (234 / >> >> >> 10210*: 7). Am 15. Juli 1849 als politischer 'Rebell' im Gefängnis >> >> >> in >> >> >> Heidelberg (236 / 8561*: 14). Gefangener im Rastatter Fort A, wegen >> >> >> Kriegsverrats am 14. August 1849 vom Standgericht zum Tod durch >> >> >> Erschießen >> >> >> verurteilt und am 20. Oktober 1849 um sieben Uhr morgens erschossen >> >> >> (65 / >> >> >> 11597*: 55; N Mone Nr. 26*: 87, 96-97, 177, 180, 186-187, 193 f, >> >> >> Nr. >> >> >> 28: 37, >> >> >> 102). >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Darlene There are no Odenwalders on the list but I did find a Georg Odenwald. Marvin Hoerig in WI Name--------------------- Odenwald, Georg Birth Place--------------- Record------------------- 40000034900 Number------------------- 24923 Name Variation---------- Residence---------------- Kaltenbrunn Profession---------------- Militär, Soldat Sex------------------------ m Nationality---------------- D Age------------------------ Year Incarcerated--------- 1849 Country of Origin--------- Baden Region--------------------- Walldürn Revolutionary Army------ Yes Militia---------------------- Single----------------------- Married--------------------- Biography------------------ Soldat der 5. Kompanie des 2. Regiments, ab Juli 1849 Gefangener im Rastatter Fort A (49 / 2410*: 14). -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gary and Darlene Odenwalder" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:36 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BW] BADEN-WURTTEMBERG Digest, RAAB Index Lookup Request > Marvin > > Can you please look for the name of Odenwalder (George Peter) > > Thank you > > Darlene > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Carl, There are 4 Olberts and 6 Heilmanns on the list. Send me given names. Marvin Hoerig in WI From: Carl Heilmann Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 9:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Raab Index Dear Marvin, I twice posted to roots.web a request to look for two of my ancestors from Heidelberg in the Raab Index document in your possession. There was no response, so I thought I would directly request the information from you. They are: Karl Olbert Heilmann (not sure of surname) Any request will be appreciated, including a notice that you can find no reference. Respectfully, Carl Heilmann Cincinnati, Ohio p.s., One of my sons, John, lives in Wisconsin with his family at Fox Point, 20 miles north of Milwaukee.

Patricia, Thank you so much for your clarification on the "Lit" found in these records. These records very seldom list death dates and places. When a death is listed as 1848 or 1849 and the place of death is Rastatt, the bio for that prisoner often, but not always, indicates that he was executed. When death dates are for years beyond '48 & '49, I often wonder if that person was held past 1849. With your info on the meaning of Lit, I now wonder if Raab entered death info. that he retrieved from another source when compiling this list. I have often see bios listing info that almost surly was gleaned from a source other than prison records. Marvin Hoerig in WI -------------------------------------------------- From: "Patricia Stasch" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:59 AM To: <[email protected]>; "Marvin Hoerig" <[email protected]> Cc: "B-W Roots Web" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BW] Leonhard Müller - Lit. > > Marvin, > > my suggestion is that a Leonhard Müller mentioned this person in an > article or a book. The abbreviation "Lit." is for "Literatur" (printed > source), in contrast to "Quelle" (inedited reference). > > Patricia > > > There is a historian named Leonhard Müller in Karlsruhe > > http://ka.stadtwiki.net/Leonhard_Müller > > He is a member of the Arbeitskreis Heimatpflege > Regierungsbezirk Karlsruhe e.V. > > http://www.ak-heimatpflege-ka.de/ > > His publications > > http://www.Statistik.Baden-Wuerttemberg.de/LABI/LABI.asp?&K1=2&T1=M%FCller%2C+Leonhard > > For example > Titel: Verlauf und Hintergründe des "Haber-Skandals" : "Straßentumult in > Karlsruhe" > Verfasser: Müller, Leonhard > In: Blick in die Geschichte. - 2007, 77. - S. 2 - 3 > > > > -- > > privat: > Metzinger Str. 29 > 72555 Metzingen (-Neuhausen), BW > > > ============================================================== > Patricia Stasch > Klassische Archäologin > Fax+Anrufbeantworter-Nr: 03212-1102645 > (Anruf wird als *.wav, Fax als *.pdf in der eMailbox abgelegt) > ============================================================== > > > Zitat von Marvin Hoerig <[email protected]>: > >> Craig, >> >> I have no more than the list itself and have no idea where information >> can >> be found for the referenced page numbers. Most, if not all records have >> some sort of pages referenced in the bios. >> >> As I mentioned to Elizabeth, on her Jean Jose Jansen record the name >> Leonhard Müller noted in a box labeled "Lit". This box seldom has had an >> entry and I have only seen it a few times. I hesitate to mention it when >> it >> does occur because I can't explain it to people when they question it's >> meaning. I like to include everything when I answer requests but this >> "Lit" >> entry has me puzzled. Can you explain what it could be ? >> >> Marvin Hoerig in WI >> >> >

Do you have folks from around Rothenberg an Necker on your list? I'm looking for Haug, Gross, Sauter to name a few. Jesse McCullar [email protected]

This is my 4th request - PLEASE unsubscribe [email protected] (David Strawser) from your list. PLEASE. Thank you. > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jesse. Finding Rothenberg among 38,000 records would be an impossible project. If you want me to search for Haug, Gross, Sauter, send a given name for them. Marvin in WI -------------------------------------------------- From: "jessemc" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 8:21 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [BW] Rabb Index > Do you have folks from around Rothenberg an Necker on your list? I'm > looking for Haug, Gross, Sauter to name a few. > Jesse McCullar [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >