I would appreciate information on Koblenz. Where would one go for archives for that area? We would write: Searcy (town), White County, State of Arkansas, USA. What is the equivalent for Koblenz, please? I've only researched the Baden-Wurttemberg area and am at a loss as to where to begin a search for the Koblenz area. Wanda Ridge

Let us men.. oh.. pause about this. > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 10:45:46 -0700 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths > > Maybe a 'menopoly' is like cornering the misogynist market! > > > Jim Herter > Lonesome Oak Business Development Group > (269) 414-2230 > http://jherter.wordpress.com/ > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Craig Gauger <[email protected]> > To: B-W Roots Web <[email protected]> > Sent: Wed, April 4, 2012 1:39:31 PM > Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths > > > Monopoly is the correct spelling. C > > > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 09:20:47 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths > > > > > > Marilyn, > > > > Your message is quite accurate but you left out the word - MENOPOLY > > > > Marvin Hoerig > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Marilyn L. Arnold" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:22 AM > > To: <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths > > > > > > > > Ancestry, in business terms, is the big gorilla in the closet -- no real > > > competitors (for US resources). Menopoly ! > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Monopoly is the correct spelling. C > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 09:20:47 -0500 > Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths > > > Marilyn, > > Your message is quite accurate but you left out the word - MENOPOLY > > Marvin Hoerig > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Marilyn L. Arnold" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:22 AM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths > > > > > Ancestry, in business terms, is the big gorilla in the closet -- no real > > competitors (for US resources). Menopoly ! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

1. Go to: www.familysearch.org 2. Click: Go to Previous Site (You might have to scroll down to find those words.) 3. Get rid of: Explore Upgraded Website Now 4. Scroll down to: Advanced Search 5. Click: Advanced Search 6. Click: US Social Security Death Index in column on left side of screen 7. Fill out form 8. Click: Search Carole -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stuart Bechman Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 4:17 PM To: B-W Rootsweb Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths ?? Maybe the search string works only in Internet Explorer? The screen that comes up for me has the title, "United States Social Security Death Index". And a search box appears in the main body of the page. -Stuart ________________________________ From: Marvin Hoerig <[email protected]> To: Stuart Bechman <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Wed, April 4, 2012 2:56:07 PM Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths Stuart, That address gets me to the Family Search site.  I don't see anywhere on that site that will get me to the SSDI listing. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Stuart Bechman" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 3:47 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths > You can still search SSDI records for free at this site: >https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://hr-search-ap i:8080/searchapi/search/collection/1202535 >5 > > Seems to be updated through the end of 2011. > I was able to find good information on the few descendants I tried out? > -Stuart > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Stuart, That address gets me to the Family Search site. I don't see anywhere on that site that will get me to the SSDI listing. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Stuart Bechman" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 3:47 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths > You can still search SSDI records for free at this site: > https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://hr-search-api:8080/searchapi/search/collection/1202535 > > Seems to be updated through the end of 2011. > I was able to find good information on the few descendants I tried out? > -Stuart > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks for the "o"! Rest of the respone sent to you privately, Marvin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marvin Hoerig" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [BW] Access to Records/Ancestry > Marilyn, > > Here's the "o" I owe you and the list. You may have the "e". > > Marvin > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Marilyn L. Arnold" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:23 PM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [BW] Access to Records/Ancestry > >> did you mean monopoly, Marvin? >> >> >> Look, I'm no big fan of Ancestry, except there's really no other good >> alternative. I've used them for years (too expensive, too many errors, >> too >> unresponsive to problems, too slow to correct clear mistakes, etc.). >> But, >> they were the winning bid at NARA to scan/digitize many of OUR federal >> records. WE have to pay for access to the resources that are OUR (US) >> records. And, there's little oversight and few controls over their QC >> problems. It's a huge problem. (Frankly, for me QC is their biggest >> problem.) But, they won the X-year contract. So we (you, me, US >> taxpayers) >> PAY them to do this, don't provide adequate oversight, and somehow allow >> problems in QC so that we (you, me, US taxpayers) can access these >> records >> via subscription. In theory, by public policy, this doesn't make sense, >> as >> we (you, me, US taxpayers) should have free access, but the reality is >> that >> there just aren't discretionary funds these days, and haven't been since >> 2011 when we went to war in two countries spending billions of dollars >> each >> week outside the US. No it's not right, but it is reality. And it is >> unfortunate. But the agreement (Ancestry-gvt) was to provide free access >> in >> (certain) US facilities. >> >> >> The plus side, is that now people across the world can access these >> records >> which were once available only by going there (or similar facilities) and >> sticking our heads into old, creaking MF readers, as I did AT NARA in >> 1990+. >> The room was packed and you would get kicked off the readers after 3 >> hours >> and have to sign back in. And, yes there was a waiting list to get into >> NARA -- esp. the morning before the 1930 census was released -- down the >> stairs, down the block. Yes, the rooms were packed till closing when >> open >> at night (w/some exceptions). Now they're nearly empty. (Just when they >> upgraded to a "new" research room at NARA DC with "new" (v. uncomfortable >> chairs) in a large, new room w/new carpeting and .... THE SAME OLD >> READERS >> that didn't work well before .... and, yes, most of the little reading >> lamps >> don't work well either, and only a couple of the printers work well >> .... ) >> As a "user" I would have had different priorities (certainly better MF >> readers, working lamps, working printers, etc.), but ... no one asked me >> .... hey, I'm just a taxpayer and regular user ... >> >> Marilyn >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marvin Hoerig" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 10:20 AM >> Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths >> >> >>> >>> Marilyn, >>> >>> Your message is quite accurate but you left out the word - MENOPOLY >>> >>> Marvin Hoerig >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Marilyn L. Arnold" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:22 AM >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths >>> >>>> >>>> Ancestry, in business terms, is the big gorilla in the closet -- no >>>> real >>>> competitors (for US resources). Menopoly ! >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marilyn, what 2 wars did we go into in 2011? We ended one and are trying to disengage in the other in 2011. BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; } On Wed 04/04/12 15:23 , "Marilyn L. Arnold" [email protected] sent: did you mean monopoly, Marvin? Look, I'm no big fan of Ancestry, except there's really no other good alternative. I've used them for years (too expensive, too many errors, too unresponsive to problems, too slow to correct clear mistakes, etc.). But, they were the winning bid at NARA to scan/digitize many of OUR federal records. WE have to pay for access to the resources that are OUR (US) records. And, there's little oversight and few controls over their QC problems. It's a huge problem. (Frankly, for me QC is their biggest problem.) But, they won the X-year contract. So we (you, me, US taxpayers) PAY them to do this, don't provide adequate oversight, and somehow allow problems in QC so that we (you, me, US taxpayers) can access these records via subscription. In theory, by public policy, this doesn't make sense, as we (you, me, US taxpayers) should have free access, but the reality is that there just aren't discretionary funds these days, and haven't been since 2011 when we went to war in two countries spending billions of dollars each week outside the US. No it's not right, but it is reality. And it is unfortunate. But the agreement (Ancestry-gvt) was to provide free access in (certain) US facilities. The plus side, is that now people across the world can access these records which were once available only by going there (or similar facilities) and sticking our heads into old, creaking MF readers, as I did AT NARA in 1990+. The room was packed and you would get kicked off the readers after 3 hours and have to sign back in. And, yes there was a waiting list to get into NARA -- esp. the morning before the 1930 census was released -- down the stairs, down the block. Yes, the rooms were packed till closing when open at night (w/some exceptions). Now they're nearly empty. (Just when they upgraded to a "new" research room at NARA DC with "new" (v. uncomfortable chairs) in a large, new room w/new carpeting and .... THE SAME OLD READERS that didn't work well before .... and, yes, most of the little reading lamps don't work well either, and only a couple of the printers work well .... ) As a "user" I would have had different priorities (certainly better MF readers, working lamps, working printers, etc.), but ... no one asked me .... hey, I'm just a taxpayer and regular user ... Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marvin Hoerig" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths > > Marilyn, > > Your message is quite accurate but you left out the word - MENOPOLY > > Marvin Hoerig > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Marilyn L. Arnold" > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:22 AM > To: > Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths > >> >> Ancestry, in business terms, is the big gorilla in the closet -- no real >> competitors (for US resources). Menopoly ! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] [5] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] [6] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Links: ------ [1] mailto:[email protected] [2] mailto:[email protected] [3] mailto:[email protected] [4] mailto:[email protected] [5] mailto:[email protected] [6] mailto:[email protected]

LOL you're just too funny, Craig .... I think I recognize you from another list, but not sure which one. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Gauger" <[email protected]> To: "B-W Roots Web" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths > > Let us men.. oh.. pause about this. > > >> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 10:45:46 -0700 >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths >> >> Maybe a 'menopoly' is like cornering the misogynist market! >> >> >> Jim Herter >> Lonesome Oak Business Development Group >> (269) 414-2230 >> http://jherter.wordpress.com/ >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Craig Gauger <[email protected]> >> To: B-W Roots Web <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wed, April 4, 2012 1:39:31 PM >> Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths >> >> >> Monopoly is the correct spelling. C >> >> >> > From: [email protected] >> > To: [email protected] >> > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 09:20:47 -0500 >> > Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths >> > >> > >> > Marilyn, >> > >> > Your message is quite accurate but you left out the word - MENOPOLY >> > >> > Marvin Hoerig >> > -------------------------------------------------- >> > From: "Marilyn L. Arnold" <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:22 AM >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths >> > >> > > >> > > Ancestry, in business terms, is the big gorilla in the closet -- no >> > > real >> > > competitors (for US resources). Menopoly ! >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> >without the >> >quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anyone out there researching families Dionysius and Elizabeth (Ruf/Ruef?) RANZ of Inzlingen, Loerrach, Germany. Would like to connect with others of this line. One daughter, Wilhelmina, b. 1860, emigrated to the US, was in Kansas City by 1889 where she met? married Ernst Carl Wilke. 6 children. MO > MN, where she died 1903; Carl, children to ND in 1906. Any connections? Marilyn

Dear Ronald: Don't know where you got this info. (Tried to find it.) Yes, the govt makes many errors -- at all levels of gvt. (My BC was in error and we only discovered when I needed to apply to college at 16 -- problem? I was listed as born a male. ah er ... Marilyn Linda a male? I thought it was hysterical; my mother was livid; but it took many months in courts to get it corrected ("I changed her diapers!!!") so I could just apply to college.). Somewhere I have an old CD w/SSDI records prior to 2010 sent w/a purchase of FTM. Perh. $70, 8 yrs ago. ----- Original Message ----- From: "RONALD SCHWARZ" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 8:34 PM Subject: [BW] Social Security Death Index master cd cost 10,000 buck i just read a few months ago at the Social Security site that if some one wants to buy the master cd of the deaths it cost 10,000 plus you have to get the updates to it too. so its not cheap any more. still not sure about the keeping the records where you cannot see them any more unless you pay. the people are dead but i have heard some of the records have live people numbers on it too by mistake. so that's something else the government seems not to be able to do right but now they are getting money for that info. thats it take care ronald schwarz ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The best thing to lobby would be to provide greater funding to the National Archives and Library of Congress for the preservation of our heritage -- records of national importance, including personal heritage. The reality (after living in the DC area, is that this just isn't an area of interest/priority for them -- particularly in an election year). It's just not. They get THOUSANDS of emails a day on various topics and access to records is just not a "hot" topic. (I have friends that work on the Hill, including a Chief Counsel. We've discussed this.) The SSDI problem is that the laws were already changed, without fanfare or notice to the public. Reversing a law, once in place, will be difficult. Since 911 the fever is toward protecting security rather than opening access to records. STATE records vary by the state. Some are more restrictive than others -- FAR more restrictive. Better to find a member/members who might support this, and go that avenue. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronald and Laura Bozzay" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths If we all write to our respective congressmen/women we have the voting power to get this reversed. Elected representatives weigh their mail and count their emails on topics. Lobbyists use this info to their advantage. You want it changed...start sending emails to congress. Big business knows how to use lobbyists to get what they want. But the reality is all the money in contributions do not offset a large voter base. I grew up watching this in action. Start sending those notes now if you want this changed. Laura >________________________________ > From: Marilyn L. Arnold <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2012 8:22 AM >Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths > >From: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths > > >>Less free sites are available every week. >> > >fewer > >true. My biggest complaint is not w/Ancestry (which provides a lot of buck >for the money) it's with all the sites where you used to be able to get tel >#s, addresses for free and now it's pay only $20-30/shot. Now THAT should >be free! > >Yes, it is a concern for those on limited means, but going to a FHL, with >limited hours vs. 24/7 connection there's no comparison. Don't have to get >dressed up; can relax w/my coffee. I mean $300/yr, or $0.83/day is cheap. >I can't GET to a FHL for that $$$ and I drive a hybrid not a beast >box/SUV/truck-class vehicle. Home vs. no coffee, no comfortable clothes, >people talking loudly ... which is worth more? > >Ancestry, in business terms, is the big gorilla in the closet -- no real >competitors (for US resources). But GWB put the country into two major wars >12 years ago, plus a republican-dominated legislature, at the same time, >rather than raising taxes to fund these wars, lowered taxes -- leaving no >money for discressionary spending. What this meant, in simple terms was >that we (US) went from having a record surplus under the previous >administration to a record deficit), as we (US) were spending BILLIONS more >money than we were taking in in revenue (taxes). > >While these (SSDI records, census, other public records) probably should be >free (after all, they are -- public!), they will never be under current >economic circumstances the US was thrust into under this administration. >Yes, it would be great if all these records were digitized and free, but we >(in the US) are in a terrible economic position -- caused by the billions >and billions we're spending internationally, without any offset in >income/compensation -- and funding for things that you (I, many) feel might >be important -- like free access to public records via digitization at the >National Archives, Library of Congress, is just not going to happen any >time >soon. That's just the reality. > >Ancestry is ONE of several contractors now making $$$ doing just this an >charging the public for access to these records. (Our government is >oursourcing this project.) And (as a 12-15+ year user of Ancestry) the QC >has seriously gone downhill as they've done more outsourcing to foreign >countries.) Is this appropriate? Probably not. Is this an appropriate >discussion for this list? Probably not, either! I'm new to the list so >please don't dump for this one post. > >As to the SSDI records themselves ... we (you, I ... all of us) have LOST >access to them in the last 6 months, without notice. (Probably an >appropriate post) >REF: >http://megansmolenyak.posterous.com/social-security-administration-extends-foia-r >For those of us interested in family history, this will only make it harder >to find family members. I personally am very blessed to have found my >Mother's cousins families and it was only through the SS-5. It's been >such >a joy. Without this information ... it would have been families lost >forever ... very sad ... > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 2:00 PM >Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths > > >>I agree with you both, Marvin and Max. Less free sites are available every >>week. >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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did you mean monopoly, Marvin? Look, I'm no big fan of Ancestry, except there's really no other good alternative. I've used them for years (too expensive, too many errors, too unresponsive to problems, too slow to correct clear mistakes, etc.). But, they were the winning bid at NARA to scan/digitize many of OUR federal records. WE have to pay for access to the resources that are OUR (US) records. And, there's little oversight and few controls over their QC problems. It's a huge problem. (Frankly, for me QC is their biggest problem.) But, they won the X-year contract. So we (you, me, US taxpayers) PAY them to do this, don't provide adequate oversight, and somehow allow problems in QC so that we (you, me, US taxpayers) can access these records via subscription. In theory, by public policy, this doesn't make sense, as we (you, me, US taxpayers) should have free access, but the reality is that there just aren't discretionary funds these days, and haven't been since 2011 when we went to war in two countries spending billions of dollars each week outside the US. No it's not right, but it is reality. And it is unfortunate. But the agreement (Ancestry-gvt) was to provide free access in (certain) US facilities. The plus side, is that now people across the world can access these records which were once available only by going there (or similar facilities) and sticking our heads into old, creaking MF readers, as I did AT NARA in 1990+. The room was packed and you would get kicked off the readers after 3 hours and have to sign back in. And, yes there was a waiting list to get into NARA -- esp. the morning before the 1930 census was released -- down the stairs, down the block. Yes, the rooms were packed till closing when open at night (w/some exceptions). Now they're nearly empty. (Just when they upgraded to a "new" research room at NARA DC with "new" (v. uncomfortable chairs) in a large, new room w/new carpeting and .... THE SAME OLD READERS that didn't work well before .... and, yes, most of the little reading lamps don't work well either, and only a couple of the printers work well .... ) As a "user" I would have had different priorities (certainly better MF readers, working lamps, working printers, etc.), but ... no one asked me .... hey, I'm just a taxpayer and regular user ... Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marvin Hoerig" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths > > Marilyn, > > Your message is quite accurate but you left out the word - MENOPOLY > > Marvin Hoerig > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Marilyn L. Arnold" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:22 AM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths > >> >> Ancestry, in business terms, is the big gorilla in the closet -- no real >> competitors (for US resources). Menopoly ! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

?? Maybe the search string works only in Internet Explorer? The screen that comes up for me has the title, "United States Social Security Death Index". And a search box appears in the main body of the page. -Stuart ________________________________ From: Marvin Hoerig <[email protected]> To: Stuart Bechman <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Wed, April 4, 2012 2:56:07 PM Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths Stuart, That address gets me to the Family Search site.  I don't see anywhere on that site that will get me to the SSDI listing. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Stuart Bechman" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 3:47 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths > You can still search SSDI records for free at this site: >https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://hr-search-api:8080/searchapi/search/collection/1202535 >5 > > Seems to be updated through the end of 2011. > I was able to find good information on the few descendants I tried out? > -Stuart > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Recent post> That address gets me to the Family Search site. I don't see anywhere on that site that will get me to the SSDI listing. Try this: Go to familysearch.org near bottom of page, select United States this will return a list of 568 mostly free indexed databases scroll down and select United States Social Security Death Index bookmark this to get there directly next time. In the meantime you can admire all the U.S. data online. For more related to this list, go back to familysearch.org near bottom of page, select Europe this will return 233 collections . . .

No, moneyopoly is best. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Gauger" <[email protected]> To: "B-W Roots Web" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths > > Monopoly is the correct spelling. C > > >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 09:20:47 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths >> >> >> Marilyn, >> >> Your message is quite accurate but you left out the word - MENOPOLY >> >> Marvin Hoerig >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Marilyn L. Arnold" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:22 AM >> To: <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths >> >> > >> > Ancestry, in business terms, is the big gorilla in the closet -- no >> > real >> > competitors (for US resources). Menopoly ! >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marilyn, Here's the "o" I owe you and the list. You may have the "e". Marvin -------------------------------------------------- From: "Marilyn L. Arnold" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:23 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BW] Access to Records/Ancestry > did you mean monopoly, Marvin? > > > Look, I'm no big fan of Ancestry, except there's really no other good > alternative. I've used them for years (too expensive, too many errors, > too > unresponsive to problems, too slow to correct clear mistakes, etc.). But, > they were the winning bid at NARA to scan/digitize many of OUR federal > records. WE have to pay for access to the resources that are OUR (US) > records. And, there's little oversight and few controls over their QC > problems. It's a huge problem. (Frankly, for me QC is their biggest > problem.) But, they won the X-year contract. So we (you, me, US > taxpayers) > PAY them to do this, don't provide adequate oversight, and somehow allow > problems in QC so that we (you, me, US taxpayers) can access these records > via subscription. In theory, by public policy, this doesn't make sense, > as > we (you, me, US taxpayers) should have free access, but the reality is > that > there just aren't discretionary funds these days, and haven't been since > 2011 when we went to war in two countries spending billions of dollars > each > week outside the US. No it's not right, but it is reality. And it is > unfortunate. But the agreement (Ancestry-gvt) was to provide free access > in > (certain) US facilities. > > > The plus side, is that now people across the world can access these > records > which were once available only by going there (or similar facilities) and > sticking our heads into old, creaking MF readers, as I did AT NARA in > 1990+. > The room was packed and you would get kicked off the readers after 3 hours > and have to sign back in. And, yes there was a waiting list to get into > NARA -- esp. the morning before the 1930 census was released -- down the > stairs, down the block. Yes, the rooms were packed till closing when open > at night (w/some exceptions). Now they're nearly empty. (Just when they > upgraded to a "new" research room at NARA DC with "new" (v. uncomfortable > chairs) in a large, new room w/new carpeting and .... THE SAME OLD READERS > that didn't work well before .... and, yes, most of the little reading > lamps > don't work well either, and only a couple of the printers work well .... ) > As a "user" I would have had different priorities (certainly better MF > readers, working lamps, working printers, etc.), but ... no one asked me > .... hey, I'm just a taxpayer and regular user ... > > Marilyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marvin Hoerig" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 10:20 AM > Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths > > >> >> Marilyn, >> >> Your message is quite accurate but you left out the word - MENOPOLY >> >> Marvin Hoerig >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Marilyn L. Arnold" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:22 AM >> To: <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths >> >>> >>> Ancestry, in business terms, is the big gorilla in the closet -- no real >>> competitors (for US resources). Menopoly ! >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

You can still search SSDI records for free at this site: https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://hr-search-api:8080/searchapi/search/collection/1202535 Seems to be updated through the end of 2011. I was able to find good information on the few descendants I tried out? -Stuart

Joseph Fuchs 1849 page 848 was an author from Villingen wanted it seems for writing revolutionary pamplets. I can´t check on the other wanted Joseph at home, and it is unlikely that the bankrupt emigrated, but I can find out more if you want. Jon

Maybe a 'menopoly' is like cornering the misogynist market! Jim Herter Lonesome Oak Business Development Group (269) 414-2230 http://jherter.wordpress.com/ ________________________________ From: Craig Gauger <[email protected]> To: B-W Roots Web <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, April 4, 2012 1:39:31 PM Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths Monopoly is the correct spelling. C > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 09:20:47 -0500 > Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths > > > Marilyn, > > Your message is quite accurate but you left out the word - MENOPOLY > > Marvin Hoerig > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Marilyn L. Arnold" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:22 AM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [BW] Soc Sec Deaths > > > > > Ancestry, in business terms, is the big gorilla in the closet -- no real > > competitors (for US resources). Menopoly ! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message