This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: STROH, WILLIAMS, WINTERS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xU.2ADE/396.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Hi Diane - I'm sorry this took so long, but I wanted to be thorough as I know this is important to you. I checked my Phoenix city directories for 1955, '57, '59, and 1960 plus Mesa/Tempe/Gilbert/Chandler for 1960, '61 and 1964, plus Glendale for 1966 and Scottsdale for 1968 along with my 1975 Phoenix metro and 2003 Phoenix metro phone books and came up with nothing that was conclusive on the following names: Richard Earl STROH Jennifer Williams STROH Herman STROH Darlene STROH Franklin WILLIAMS Patricia Ann WILLIAMS There are some potential matches, but these are very limited. I would need to have middle names or initials for Jennifer, Herman, Darlene and Franklin to be accurate, and even armed with that additional information it is doubtful a match will be realized. Perhaps when you receive your birth certificate there will be more information that will prove helpful including middle names or initials, addresses, occupations or employers may be shown. Beyond my city directories I did searches on Google.com, Rootsweb.com, Knowx.com, Classmates.com and VitalRecords.com. There are only two things that I found that were interesting and possible "hits" worth exploring. First in the 2003 Phoenix metro phone book, there is a listing for a Franklin WILLIAMS III (the 3rd). The reason I found this intriguing is that in every directory I checked there were "Frank's" and plenty of them, but not a single "Franklin" listing. After examining all those resources finally a "Franklin" comes up in the 2003 white pages. The phone number for this Franklin WILLAIMS III is 480-968-5315 but with no address or city listed. However, from the area code and prefix I was able to determine the number is a Tempe, AZ. number. It could just be worth a phone call to see if this might be the son or grandson of Franklin and Patricia Ann WILLIAMS. Also Knowx.com has a listing for a "Franklin WILLIAMS III". Knowx.com is a public record pay site, and they have one record for sale for $3.95. They don't say what it is, it's probably either a deed recording or a address/phone number listing. The listing is also for Tempe, Arizona. I found a death record for a "Franklin WILLIAMS" in Arizona, but nothing is conclusive as to whether or not its your Franklin WILLIAMS. At VitalRecords.com which is co-partnered with Ancestry.com I found in the Oregon Death Index the following entry: "Name: Stroh, Herman, County: Malheur, Death Date" 11 Jan 1976, Certificate 76-00702 (the 702nd person in 1976), Spouse: Darlen (without a ending "e" - maybe a space limitation dictated the content limitation - given name appears to be Darlene), Birth Date: May 1914". To your knowledge was your grandfather Herman STROH known to have also been in Oregon? Finally, for your general information the Maricopa County Hospital was located at 3435 West Durango, Phoenix in 1960, six years before your birth. The hospital phone number in 1960 was AP 8-3541. I can find no web evidence that Richard Earl STROH is deceased. Of course all kinds of things can occur, i.e. people can change their name and when deceased a "cold" trail is left behind for researchers. Assuming his name is unchanged, my best guess is that he is probably still living. If you can develop more middle initials or find a middle name, leave a posting and I'll review the directories again. If you come up with any address, also leave a posting because I can find the property owner through the address cross directories. Once a property owner is discovered, they can be contacted if still living to see if they remember a family that habitated the property owners residence. Glen F. Pritchett, USGENWEB volunteer