This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Drager Clift Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xU.2ADE/508.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Glen Wow. This is terrific. I had found the Maricopa County site previously and had managed not to notice that there was a split of pre-1982 documents. I thought only the later documents had been put on line. The images were not working yesterday, but today I managed to check Donald R. Drager's death certificate, and he is not related to Glenn, which saves one look-up. Donald L. is a similar age to Donald R., so that doesn't look promising; however, one of the John Dragers may still be possible, especially given that Glenn's father was John. I'll get onto ordering the documents. A treasure trove. Thank you.