This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MILLER, SMITH Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xU.2ADE/413.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Lori - You're welcome, just sorry nothing more conclusive was produced. Rawden as a given name is quite unique. I looked at the 1920 census index with and without soundex and only 2 "Rawden" first names come up. Even a search on Google for "Rawden" only turned 1,700 hits on hundreds of millions of web pages. Conversely, trying Ray as an example over 52,000 "Ray" first names are shown for the 1920 census. Sometimes, we can't find a person and their correctly spelled name became a "hand me down" spelling or phonetic attempts are responsible for the person being difficult to find. I was recently searching for a aunt whose first name was Edna (correct spelling), but no search utility would pick it up because the actual record was misspelled as Adna. By the way the name Rawden seems to be of English heritage. You might consider trying the Mesa Public Library for a obituary search. If you go to the search utility at this board and enter "Mesa Public Library" or "Mesa Library" on the text line and make sure the search is examining the Maricopa postings only and not all boards, instructions will be found as how to request a free obituary search from the library. I believe they will require his date of death to help speed any search process. I checked Knowx.com and they do have one public record for sale that shows a "Rawden Miller" as having died in Phoenix. The record is available on line for $5.95 and may give you the details of his address and exact date of death. I believe the record copy from the SSA is up to $27.00 so Knowx.com may be a less expensive option if you don't need all the SS-5 information. Good luck in your efforts. Glen F. Pritchett, USGENWEB volunteer

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: HURLEY, WETZLER Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xU.2ADE/415.1 Message Board Post: Hi Gerald - In my 1941 and 1945 Phoenix city directories I found no listings for either James William HURLEY or Betty WETZLER. There are HURLEY listings for both years, but nothing for James. There are 4 WETZLER listings for 1941 but none of 1945. I also found no HURLEY listings in my 1931 sub-directory of Phoenix for Buckeye. There are HURLEY listings for Phoenix in 1931, but again, no James. Same for 1935. Checking my 1960 Phoenix city directory there is no listing for James or Betty. However, there are three HURLEY's listed as students who would have been at least 18 years of age or older and might be of the date of birth of your unknown child of 23 May 1942. They are Helen E. but she is living with parents listed in the directory, Kath is next but again living with her mother and Robert E. HURLEY but also living with his parents. Unfortunately, no help there. Do you have any other information such as who the parents of James William and Betty are? Perhaps these new parents are living with relations. Glen F. Pritchett, USGENWEB volunteer

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hurley Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xU.2ADE/415 Message Board Post: Looking for information about James William Hurley who married Betty Wetzler in Buckeye in 1942. They had a child on 23 May 42.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Miller Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xU.2ADE/413.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you for the information from the directories, it helps to narrow when he moved there. Unfortunately, no one still living knows anything about Rawden. All I know is he left home before the 1910 census was taken, he was 18 then, and never returned. His parents and siblings all stayed in KY. That's why I was hoping an obituary, to shed some light on him for me. My next move is to send for his SS-5, it will note where he was living at the time and may list a place of employment. Thank you so much for the help. Lori

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xU.2ADE/404.1.1 Message Board Post: THANK YOU VERY MUCH!! I went to the site - & - filled out their request form - let's see what happens. I will publish it - if they find it (she didn't have any family that we know of - so, we'll have to wait & see what happens). JMK

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: FAIR, WALTER(S), POLI Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xU.2ADE/408.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Melanie - Other than the 1975 metro phone book for Phoenix and adjoining cities I am not finding anything else. Examining 1955 and 1960 Phoenix city directories, along with 1960, 1961 and 1964 Mesa city directories I find no listing for W. D. FAIR or Beatrice W. FAIR. Do you have any children's names by chance or was Beatrice to have been known by another first name, some substitute for Beatrice as an example? Glen F. Pritchett, USGENWEB volunteer

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: GREEN, DREESEN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xU.2ADE/409.2 Message Board Post: Hi Faith - I'm coming up with "goose eggs" on all the family names. Checking my 1955 Phoenix city directory there is no listing for any of the four family members you provided name information for. Same for my 1975 Phoenix metro phone book. There is one listing in my 1960 Phoenix city directory, page 1324, left column that reads "Green Floyd h (head of household - other relations may be present) 1801 E Thomas (residence)". There is no occupation, no middle initial, no phone number, no spouse or children under age 18 listed and hence there is no way to determine from this record if this "Floyd GREEN" is your Floyd GREEN. I'll do some more lookups after I return from vacation Labor Day, but it's not looking very promising. I usually am able to find someone in these resources, but this doesn't mean they weren't there, we just need to be even more resourceful. Glen F. Pritchett, USGENWEB volunteer

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MILLER, SMITH, CLARK Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xU.2ADE/413.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Lori - Examining my 1975 Phoenix metro phone book, my 1960 and 1955 Phoenix city directories I am not finding any listing for a "Rawden MILLER", "Rawden S. MILLER", "R. S. MILLER", or his parents William S. MILLER and Dora Frances Clark MILLER. Was Rawden Miller known to have gone by another name, perhaps "Ray" as an example? Do any of your family members have an old address for him (old address books, saved letters, etc. sometimes can be a big help) or know what his occupation or employer might have been? Was he schooled in the Phoenix area to anyones knowledge? Were other known relatives living in Phoenix during the same era? Sometimes we can successfully find someone through a local relative. Was he known to have ever owned any property in Arizona? Glen F. Pritchett, USGENWEB volunteer

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: DANNER, MARTIN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xU.2ADE/414.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Carol - The thought occurred to me that the "Jack DANNER" listed in the directory might have been born in Arizona if Will is his father and Fannie is his mother given the unconfirmed information that Will died circa 1929 in Arizona. If so, it might be worthwhile to write the Arizona Vital Records asking for a copy of a birth certificate. The rules to acquire a birth certificate are not very genealogist friendly. If you go to USGENWEB.com, then click on Arizona and work down to the Maricopa site, the site co-ordinator Amber Cory has great tips of how to acquire records from Maricopa record keepers. If you think you can satisfy the Arizona requirements for a birth record, you might want to give that a try. Regarding obituaries, if you use the "Advanced Search" utility at this board, and in the text box type in "Mesa Public Library" or "Mesa Library" and click on "Maricopa" so to search only the Maricopa messages you'll find past postings advising how to order free of charge an obituary from the database at the Mesa Public Library. You can order the obituary by Internet or by fax. I did a quick check of my 1975 Phoenix metro phone book which includes all adjoining towns and cities to Phoenix and found no listing for a "Jack DANNER" and of course none for Fannie because I believe you indicated she was deceased by 1975. Of course Jack DANNER could have been there but possibly just had an unlisted phone number or no phone number at all. As previously mentioned I'll do some more lookups back before 1960 when I return after Labor Day. Good luck and I hope these other ideas are helpful. Glen F. Pritchett, USGENWEB volunteer

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Green Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xU.2ADE/409.1.1 Message Board Post: Floyd M. Green was born in 1901, probably in Marion, Ohio? His parents were James and Minerva J. Green. In 1966 when Clyde passed away, the obit read that a brother was still living and since Floyd was the only other boy in the family I believe that Floyd was still alive at that time but don't know where he was located?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: DANNER, SMITHART, MARTIN, TARTT, GARNER, ADKINSON, HARTZOG Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xU.2ADE/414.1.1 Message Board Post: Glen - Thank you VERY much for your assistance on this search!! So far, I am still searching for any des. of Will and Fannie Danner. Have had no luck with calls to the Arizona Republic newspaper (obits), Phoenix Public Lib., 3 area funeral homes that were in operation in 1971, nor with several Danner homes I called (many are not home mid-day of course. I rec'd more data from someone else that says Will died in 1929, still don't know where. Jack may very well be the name of a son of Will & Fannie as his father was Andrew Jackson Danner. I have no names for their children, just b. of one in Tom Green Co., TX in 1906, gender & name not given. Any tidbits you might offer are certainly appreciated. Have a Great Day Carol :-) <+}}><

I am still looking for any information about my uncle-KENNETH EUGENE WRIGHT. He moved to the Phoenix area shortly after WWII and died there. He was born in Chicago,IL and served in the Army in WWI. Thank you. Gerald Wright

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: DANNER, MARTIN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xU.2ADE/414.1 Message Board Post: Hi Carol - In my collection of city directories, the youngest for Phoenix being 1960, there is the following entry on page 1198, right column "Danner Fannie J (wid John)(widow of John) H (owns the home represented by the address) h (head of household - there may be other relations present) 1908 E Lincoln (residence address) AL8-5066 (phone)". On the same page, same column is "Danner Jack lab (laborer) r (residing at this address - a boarder or renter) 1908 E Lincoln AL8-5066". This appears to probably be a son of Fannie J. DANNER. Mapquest.com is still showing 1908 East Lincoln as being an active address. This location is in an industrial area of Phoenix near and east of the Black Canyon Highway, south of West Grant Avenue and north of Buckeye Road. As a homeowner property tax and land deed records would be available from the county clerks office. Also as most property owners are registered voters, she may be listed in voter registration rolls as well. She is not shown as being employed in 1960, but that may be due to her age. I have other older resources that I'll do some more lookups for you in the near future, but this will give you some clues to work with. Glen F. Pritchett, USGENWEB volunteer

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xU.2ADE/413.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you for the reply. As far as I know there is no middle initial. If there was one it would probably be S for Stephen. I do know that his father was William S. Miller and his mother Dora Frances Clark. Lori

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: DANNER, SMITHART, MARTIN, TARTT, GARNER, ADKINSON, HARTZOG Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xU.2ADE/414 Message Board Post: Need help locating any des. of JOHN WILLIAM 'WILL' DANNER who died between 1923 - 1929. Believe his wife was FANNIE J. DANNER who d. 1971, last residence was Phoenix. Also need data on where, when John William 'Will' died, and where he and wife are buried. If you can help, please email me at shootfor8@austin.rr.com --- Fannie Danner in subject line. Thanks Carol Martin :-) <+}}><

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: PETERSON, SWANSON, SCHWARTZ Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xU.2ADE/219.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Julie - Thanks for the additional information. I am not coming up with anything so far on my lookups for a Arvid E. or Esther Swanson PETERSON. I find no listing for either one in my 1945, 1955, and 1960 Phoenix city directories (which does not include Sun City), Glendale city directory of 1966 which DOES include Sun City nor in my 1975 metro phone book which also includes Sun City. I also found nothing for his parents Alfred and Johanna Matilda Swanson PETERSON or Johanna's mother Anna SWANSON for 1945 in the Phoenix city directory. I didn't look further for them assuming they would be more aged by 1955 or deceased. I am coming up with a couple of possible matches for brother Carl Hartwig, Axel and Gertrude PETERSON for 1960, 1975, and in the case of Axel 1966 in Sun City. However the information is not conclusive without middle names or initials. As to Arvid and Esther's children, I am finding a Martin PETERSON listed in 1945, 1955, and 1960 but without a middle initial or name nothing can be determined with certainty. This was interesting in that the Martin PETERSON was living in hotels. Was your Martin PETERSON known to have resided in hotels? There are also several Floyd PETERSON's in the 1960 and 1975 resources, but again, without a middle name or initial nothing certain can be determined. Do you have the married names of any of Arvid's sisters or daughters or the wive's names of his brothers and sons? That information could be very helpful in confirming a particular person? Desert Hills is in Mojave county in northeast Arizona, zip code 86403. As you indicate Arlene Peterson SCHWARTZ is still living, presumeably she would be co-operative regarding disclosing her family background as she knows it. If not, perhaps a posting at the Mojave board will prove helpful. Do you know if any of Arvid and Esther's children were schooled in the Phoenix area? My resources are not all inclusive of course. I have public records for 1931 on but some are specifically published for certain areas such as Phoenix only, while others are more inclusive of other areas such as Sun City. Therefore these lookups should not be considered conclusive and may in fact prove more helpful as you develop more information regarding family middle names or married names. For the moment I would suggest focusing on any more details that you might be able to provide regarding siblings Carl Hartwig, Gertrude, Axel, and children Martin and Floyd PETERSON. Sometimes, we end up finding other relatives living with another relative which helps explain the lack of a listing for a primary research subject. Lastly, having Swedish relatives in my line and being familiar with this issue, I need to poise the question about their surname. Is the surname PETERSON certain? Variant spelling such as PETERSEN could produce more results. Also, my wifes Swedish forebears changed their Swedish surname to something more Americanized upon arrival in America. To yourknowledge was any other name used by some of those that you listed in your postings? Glen F. Pritchett, USGENWEB volunteer

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xU.2ADE/408.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the info. Unfortunately I don't have a street address. However, I have determined that it was Beatrice Walter(s) who was married to W. D. Fair.

Hi, Haven't posted recently so thought I would give it a try again, Still looking for a Robert Arnold Green born abt 1888 or 1889. Born in Texas; don't know when he was divorced to Lou Ella/Lou Ellie Coombes Green in Texas. But know that Robert moved to Arizonia and died sometime in the 1950's or 1960's. I know he remarred but and when he died his was wanted the military or Social Security death benefits; they supposedly lived in the Phoenix area. Robert is my Grandfather. Since we don't know his true DOB it's hard to find much about him. Since my father was born in 1919(Earnest Lacy Green), they were in the Witchia Falls 1920 Census. But that's about all I can find. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Still Searching, Linda K. Green __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BARANOWSKI Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xU.2ADE/402.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Arlene - I'm back for a few days before leaving again for the last part of my planned vacation for this year. I did a quick consult of the 1975 Phoenix metro phone book which includes outlying cities and towns near Phoenix and found the following listing on page 75, second column from the left "Baranowski Frank G 560 N MacDonald Mesa........962-1951". Whether this is your research subject or not cannot be determined from this public record however the surname BARANOWSKI is rather unique and there are only a few other BARANOWSKI's listed. If this is your research subject then some of the other listings may be related. Their given names are Anthony of Tempe, Gerald A. of Scottsdale, John of Phoenix, Joseph J. a psychologist of Phoenix, Lonnie of Mesa and Patricia A. of Phoenix. Again, this is data from 1975. Also go to Classmates.com and using the search utility enter "Patricia Baranowski" and "Arizona" and this Patricia Baranowski comes up as being a student at Westwood High School from 1966 to 1970. This is contemporary information. Mapquest.com is showing 560 North MacDonald is still an active address (zip code 85201-5018) and Westwood High School as an active address of 945 West 8th Street, Mesa, 85201-3902. Westwood High School is about 10 streets west of the MacDonald residental address which suggests this Patricia Baranowski may be a daughter of Frank G. Baranowski as this high school is the closest proximate to the MacDonald residence. If you are a member of Classmates.com and want to contact Patricia you may do so directly by email at that site. If you are not a member and you want Patricia contacted I can do it for you as a temporary intermediary to see if she'll respond by email. If you go to Knowx.com and using the "Ultimate People Finder" enter "BARANOWSKI" and "Arizona" in the search utility, 65 matches come up including a Patricia A. BARANOWSKI of Phoenix. If you register at the site you can purchase the public record for $3.95 if you think this person is related to Frank G. The record is usually a residental address, business or unlisted phone number. There is also a John A. BARANOWSKI and wife Sharon M. of Glendale listed in the first 25 names displayed on the web page. Upon my return after Labor Day I'll do some other lookups for you from my earlier era city directories including a new collection just received for Mesa/Tempe of the 60's era. In the meantime this will give you some clues to work with. Glen F. Pritchett, USGENWEB volunteer

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SECRESS, CLINGAN, FORRESTER Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xU.2ADE/403.2 Message Board Post: Hi Pat - I'm back for a few short days before leaving again but I did one lookup that has produced a result. In the 1975 Phoenix metro phone book, which includes the outlying cities and towns nearest Phoenix is the following listing on page 892, 2nd column from the left: "Secress Almerdell 103 E Alice Av.......944-7853". The residence address of 103 East Alice Avenue is in north Phoenix city central just south of East Dunlap Avenue and east one block off Central Avenue. I was just there earlier this week taking pictures of past family homes that I was researching of my forebears and I'm sorry I hadn't done this lookup before I left because I could have taken a picture for you as the address was just a short distance from where I stayed. It seems reasonable that this is your research subject as the surname and given name are quite unique and there are only two SECRESS surnames listed in the book. Mapquest.com still shows the address as active and in zip code 85020-3142. The other SECRESS listing is right below the first one noted herein and is "Secress Realty & Motel 103 E Alice Av.........943-7853". As the name and address are the same it appears your research subject was both a realtor and a property owner/landlord. If so, numerous public records would exist including realtor licensing, possible membership in realtor association(s), licensing to operate a public accomodation, Arizona Corporation Commission filings (if incorporated), property tax records, land deed and probably voter registration records as well as most property owners are voters. Additionally, upon the death of many business owners, there often will be a larger than normal space in the local newspaper or business journals devoted to an article regarding the deceased's business activities. It's also possible this address might have been inherited by him following the deaths of the CLINGAN natural and step parents or he might have bought the property from them prior to their deaths. Just a thought....... I'll continue my research for you following Labor Day but this will give you some more "clues" to work with. Glen F. Pritchett, USGENWEB volunteer