Grougar was once in Kilmarnock (and then later in Fenwick after it separated from Kilmarnock in 1640???). The Wiki article talks about Lord Loudoun and the Boyds. The Loudouns of Loudoun Castle (situated just above Galston, Ayrshire) owned vast amounts of land throughout Scotland (and in England) including Fenwick. The Boyds owned Dean Castle, Kilmarnock. Hope this helps. Regards, Debbie Rea On 16 December 2015 at 02:46, Linda via <ayrshire@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Dear List Members > I am reading text tonight on the Fuedal families of Ayrshire and came > across > this on Wiki. Can anyone explain where this Barony of Grougar was? Any > understanding of the following? > Thanks, Linda > > The Barony of Grougar is a Scottish feudal barony which lies in north > Ayrshire in the district formerly known as Cunninghame. The earliest known > family likely to have owned Grougar were the De Morvilles who were there in > the twelfth and thirteenth centuries before the reign of Robert the Bruce. > The De Morvilles originated in Morville, Department of Manche, Normandy, > arrived in England in the wake of the Norman Conquest, settled in Burg, > Cumbria, and later moved to Scotland in the early 12th century where they > were granted land in Ayrshire. This land grant precedes the establishment > of > the Register of the Great Seal of Scotland so cannot be positively > confirmed. Hugo de Morville[disambiguation needed] who died in 1202 was the > Constable of Scotland. By the late thirteenth century the Logan family were > barons of Grougar. Thorbrand de Logan baron of Grougar is recorded in 1272 > and a John de Logan of Grugar may be the John Logan described as ‘one of > the > king of England’s enemies’ in 1307 during the Wars of Independence. > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >