The following information I need help with as have exhausted all my options on this side of the world. Death of Mary KYLES/FYLES/SYLES/KYLE age in 1841 census 45 married to Angus... maiden name STEWART died after 1841 census and before 1848, was in Abbey, Paisley, Renfrewshire on married in 1840 and in 1841 census. Death of Charles LONGMUIR last "seen" in 1841 census at Houston & Killellan aged 30 years with wife Juidy 25 and 1 year old daughter Elisabeth. In 1851 census Ju(i)dy was with new husband Angus KYLES and their 1st child Rose Anna............... Marriage of Judy/Judith PATERSON/LONGMUIR to Angus KYLES after death of above Mary. Birth Rose or Rose Ann or Rose Anna KYLES born apparently in Irvine 1848/1849 of parents Judy PATERSON and Angus KYLES I have all the information on Angus and Mary except for death, I have all the information on Judy and Angus except their marriage and I have Rose Anna in Census records but can't find her birth. Thanks in advance Glenda

Glenda Firstly they could have moved out of Paisley - so have you searched in other parts of Scotland for Angus Kyles? Oh what was his occuption given in hte 1841 Census. This may dertermine if he moved to another town in Scotland or even went to England to work. Your second line is that he migrated after 1851. That could be Canada, USA, South africa, Australia or New Zealand - plus a few other places as well. Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Our Trees" <our.trees@paradise.net.nz> To: "Ayrshire Mail List" <AYRSHIRE-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 11:55 AM Subject: [AYR] HELP Please > The following information I need help with as have exhausted all my > options > on this side of the world. > > > > Death of Mary KYLES/FYLES/SYLES/KYLE age in 1841 census 45 married to > Angus... maiden name STEWART died after 1841 census and before 1848, was > in > Abbey, Paisley, Renfrewshire on married in 1840 and in 1841 census. > > > > Death of Charles LONGMUIR last "seen" in 1841 census at Houston & > Killellan > aged 30 years with wife Juidy 25 and 1 year old daughter Elisabeth. In > 1851 > census Ju(i)dy was with new husband Angus KYLES and their 1st child Rose > Anna............... > > > > Marriage of Judy/Judith PATERSON/LONGMUIR to Angus KYLES after death of > above Mary. > > > > Birth Rose or Rose Ann or Rose Anna KYLES born apparently in Irvine > 1848/1849 of parents Judy PATERSON and Angus KYLES > > > > I have all the information on Angus and Mary except for death, I have all > the information on Judy and Angus except their marriage and I have Rose > Anna > in Census records but can't find her birth. > > > > Thanks in advance Glenda

Hi Glenda, I can't find your family on freecen for 1841 but think this must be them in 1851 - but Cursty (Kirsty I imagine) seems to be Angus' wife - not Judith? Is this the right family? I do think scotlandspeople may help as I am puzzled at not finding them in 1841. Piece: SCT1851/559 Place: Abbey (Paisley) -Renfrewshire Enumeration District: 12 Civil Parish: Abbey (Paisley) Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 473 Page: 24 Schedule: 73 Address: Johnstone, Graham St KYLES Anguss Head M M 50 Ag Labourer Co. Antrim - - KYLES Cursty Wife M F 33 Not Employed Co. Antrim - - LONGSMURE Elizabeth Lodger U F 11 Mill Worker Co. Antrim - - KYLE Rose Lodger - F 2 Ayrshire - - Best regards, Mary