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To post a message to the AYRSHIRE mailing list, send an email to AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 11, Issue 13 **************************************** ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2016 21:52:26 +0000 From: Margaret ELLIOTT <m.e.elliott@icloud.com> Subject: [AYR] Marriage between James BROWN and Sarah HAMILTON To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <CA4128C0-9ECA-4B80-93DB-7323F25AC3F7@icloud.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii James BROWN was born in 1768 in Penpont. He died in 1840 in Kirkconnel Sarah Hamilton was born in 1772 in New Cumnock. She died in 1855 in Kirconnel where she appears in 1841 and 1851, with her son and daughter, in the census. Can anyone tell me where and when they were married please? Margaret Switzerland ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 08:38:06 +1000 From: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> Subject: Re: [AYR] Marriage between James BROWN and Sarah HAMILTON To: "Margaret ELLIOTT" <m.e.elliott@icloud.com>, <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <40E4D9E9CE044B629EF3496003EA527C@MichaelPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Margaret >From dates you have given for James and Sarah, you might be looking in the period 1790-1800 - if this was their first marriage. So with the two children still being at home in 1841, MIGHT SUGGEST they were the younger end of the family. Does the Census provide an age for them? If you look up the Old Parish Records, their marriage might be found. If you can't find a website, contact the North Ayrshire Local Studies Library at The Heritage (Email naheritage@north-ayrshire.gov.uk )Good hunting Mike Boyd Brisbane -----Original Message----- From: Margaret ELLIOTT via Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 7:52 AM To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] Marriage between James BROWN and Sarah HAMILTON James BROWN was born in 1768 in Penpont. He died in 1840 in Kirkconnel Sarah Hamilton was born in 1772 in New Cumnock. She died in 1855 in Kirconnel where she appears in 1841 and 1851, with her son and daughter, in the census. Can anyone tell me where and when they were married please? Margaret Switzerland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 14:16:19 +1300 From: "mhhr" <mhhr@xtra.co.nz> Subject: [AYR] Thomas Francis Kennedy To: "Rootsweb Ayrshire" <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Cc: Lynda Fowler <lynda@gwfpc.com> Message-ID: <F27CB19021874D3D9FBBE20ABEDEA61E@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My ancestor Hugh REID of Culzeoun Farm died in 1831 aged 79. A significant part of his estate was two Promissary Notes (payable on demand) from Thomas Francis Kennedy of Dunure. It is known from written family histories that the REID's were on close terms with the Kennedy family of which the Marquess of Ailsa was head. I have ascertained that TF Kennedy was not a son or brother of the Marquess but have assumed that he was probably closely related. Appreciate any help to identify TF Kennedy, by parents/birth/death data. Another semi related query will follow. Regards Murray Reid NZ ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 14:32:03 +1300 From: "mhhr" <mhhr@xtra.co.nz> Subject: [AYR] Elizabeth Boyd/Reid To: "Rootsweb Ayrshire" <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Cc: Lynda Fowler <lynda@gwfpc.com> Message-ID: <0AB436220EE64FA2AFD3E0F8B366875E@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Elizabeth BOYD was likely born in 1754 to parents John and Agnes (Allan). She married Hugh REID of Culzeoun farm in 1776. A fairly reliable family history states that she partnered the Kennedy heir at a ball to celebrate his coming of age. This event would have been c 1771/1775 so therefore the heir's likely birth would have been c1750/1755. I have attempted to track the Earl/Marquess hereditry line only to become confused. I think there was one heir who did not survive his father but am not certain. (also a steady line of Archibalds tends to confuse one!) It may well be the family history is more of a wish list, but it is fairly accurate in most respects. Can any one advice which Kennedy it was that danced with my gt gt gt granny? Murray Reid NZ ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 06:31:59 +0000 From: Irene Macleod <lowlandscot@sky.com> Subject: Re: [AYR] Marriage between James BROWN and Sarah HAMILTON Cc: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <AE371407-5049-4A45-9714-A071FE95ACB6@sky.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If Sarah Hamilton died in 1855 then her death certificate should list her children and their ages..so the likely time for a marriage would be before and around the birth of the first child. Although a marriage post children is possible it's not common. All surviving parish records are online at Scotlandspeople...have you looked there? Irene Sent from my iPad > On 8 Feb 2016, at 22:38, Mike Boyd via <ayrshire@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Margaret >> From dates you have given for James and Sarah, you might be looking in >> the > period 1790-1800 - if this was their first marriage. > > So with the two children still being at home in 1841, MIGHT SUGGEST they > were the younger end of the family. Does the Census provide an age for > them? > > If you look up the Old Parish Records, their marriage might be found. If > you can't find a website, contact the North Ayrshire Local Studies Library > at The Heritage (Email naheritage@north-ayrshire.gov.uk )Good hunting > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Margaret ELLIOTT via > Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 7:52 AM > To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AYR] Marriage between James BROWN and Sarah HAMILTON > > James BROWN was born in 1768 in Penpont. He died in 1840 in Kirkconnel > Sarah Hamilton was born in 1772 in New Cumnock. She died in 1855 in > Kirconnel where she appears in 1841 and 1851, with her son and daughter, > in > the census. > > Can anyone tell me where and when they were married please? > > Margaret > Switzerland > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 17:46:14 +1000 From: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> Subject: Re: [AYR] Elizabeth Boyd/Reid To: "mhhr" <mhhr@xtra.co.nz>, "Rootsweb Ayrshire" <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Cc: Lynda Fowler <lynda@gwfpc.com> Message-ID: <70D35BF29BED43D4A0385667BDD9737C@MichaelPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original I went to the 1994 IGI for the UK to see what suitable Elizabeth Boyd entries I could find Elizabeth BOYD (F).......... C: 13 Nov 1753 B: 26 Oct 1974 LANGE Ba: 7410704 81 Father: James BOYD Irvine, Ayr, Scotland E: 17 Dec 1974 LANGE So: 934213 Mother: Jane SHAW SP: 14 Feb 1975 LANGE Elizabeth BOYD (F).......... B: 22 Feb 1754 B: 27 May 1958 F#: 446105 @ Father: John BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 4 Aug 1958 SLAKE Mother: Agnes ALLAN SP: Pre-1970 O#: 31079 Elizabeth BOYD (F)......... B: 22 Feb 1754 B: 27 May 1958 Ba: 7005510 44 Father: John BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 4 Aug 1958 SLAKE So: 538352 Mother: Agnes ALLEN SP: 1 Jun 1959 SLAKE Elizabeth BOYD (F)........... B: 19 Aug 1755 B: 25 Apr 1989 LOGAN Ba: C115787 Father: Joseph BOYD Ayr, Ayr, Scotland E: 1 Jul 1989 LOGAN So: 1041330 Mother: Janet KER SP: 11 Aug 1989 LOGAN Pr: 6900403 Elizabeth BOYD (F).......... C: 4 Jun 1756 B: 25 Apr 1989 LOGAN Ba: C115787 Father: Allan BOYD Ayr, Ayr, Scotland E: 1 Jul 1989 LOGAN So: 1041330 Mother: Janet REID SP: 11 Aug 1989 LOGAN Pr: 6900403 One or none of these five entries could be Elizabeth Boyd?s birth entry. I assume that you will need to look at the OPR?s to see there might be any indication of the Boyds standing in the community ? ?that she partnered the Kennedy heir at a ball to celebrate his coming of age? in about - 1771/1775. (This is shortly after the 1746 Execution of the 4th Earl of Kilmarnock in London.) I am not sure if the naming pattern for this Reid family MIGHT HELP to determine the possible names for Elizabeth Boyd?s parents? I am not sure how you might be able to check the "Status" of these families. In the 1691 Hearth Tax list there were a large number of Boyds in Ayr (town), Irvine and Kilmarnock plus the Boyd estates. So Elizabeth's family could come form a number of locations. Oh do you know where the 1776 marriage took place? That mihgt indicate where he parents were form? Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: mhhr via Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 11:32 AM To: Rootsweb Ayrshire Cc: Lynda Fowler Subject: [AYR] Elizabeth Boyd/Reid Elizabeth BOYD was likely born in 1754 to parents John and Agnes (Allan). She married Hugh REID of Culzeoun farm in 1776. A fairly reliable family history states that she partnered the Kennedy heir at a ball to celebrate his coming of age. This event would have been c 1771/1775 so therefore the heir's likely birth would have been c1750/1755. I have attempted to track the Earl/Marquess hereditry line only to become confused. I think there was one heir who did not survive his father but am not certain. (also a steady line of Archibalds tends to confuse one!) It may well be the family history is more of a wish list, but it is fairly accurate in most respects. Can any one advice which Kennedy it was that danced with my gt gt gt granny? Murray Reid NZ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the AYRSHIRE list administrator, send an email to AYRSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the AYRSHIRE mailing list, send an email to AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of AYRSHIRE Digest, Vol 11, Issue 14 ****************************************